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that is all the time i have fo today, i'm alisyn menendez, for when i'm in for stephani ruhle on the 11th hour, i'll b back here saturday and sunda for more american voices and for now i'll hand it ove to my friend julián castro hello julián. >> good to see you, alicia thank you so much. you know, who needs the oscars when you have quite a bit of drama tonight in the banking system >> big, big news indeed, looking forward to see how you cover it good evening, i'm hala and cause, throw in for mehd hasan. tonight on the mehdi hasan show, breaking news. u.s. treasury steps inside silicon valley bank depositors
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we'll get access to all thei money, starting monday more details in just a moment. then, empty words from mik pence, he wants history to hol donald trump accountable for january 6th, but refuses t testify against the ex president. and then, two gop le committees are on the ropes, but me moments ago, treasury secretar janet yellen released statement along with the federal reserve in the fbi and see on this silicon valley bank saying, quote depositors wante access to all their mone starting monday, march 13th, and no losses associated wit the resolution of silico valley bank will be borne by the tax perry. this means that the taxpayer will have access to all th money starting tomorrow also announced it you are seein future bank was closed, and deposit is there would also be made whole the rapids demise of silicon
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valley bank, began with th surprise announcemen wednesday. you need to raise over two billion dollars to keep up its balance sheet, within 24 hours depositors had withdrawn mor than 42 billion dollars, and within 48 hours federa regulators announced they were taking over the bank so joining me now is nbc new is gary graham back. gary understand you have a update for the biden administration what are you hearing >> and it past five, minutes a delaware - after as we can in wilmington, he said he would be talking to reporters tomorrow, about this bank, the silicon valley ban situation, so we've go questions on the time out ther in wilmington, specificall sunday said he will be talking tomorrow he is a busy day tomorrow, because he's also expected t head to weston california, for unrelated events with the prim minister of the united kingdom and the prime minister o australia. so busy day for biden, let m just run to the top lines.
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so from the treasury secretary quote, after receiving a recommendation to the boards o the fdic, and the federa reserve, and consulting with the president, yellen approved actions enabling the fdic to engage a resolution of silicon valley bank, in a manner tha it protects all depositors that means everyone, that mean everyone underneath the fdic 250,000 dollar limit, and abov the 250,000 dollar limit those are some big companies were talking about here, we're talking about roku, crypto company block, faye aerospac company rocket lab, they all have a combined hundreds o millions of dollars in silicon valley bank, and one big think that the statement said, is no all get their money back, an that there are no losses wit the resolution of silico valley bank, will be borne b the taxpayer which means, apparently, nobod is getting bailed out here, bu one big question that th statement is not, say is where
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this money is coming from. congress is going to have that question as well, they are als looking for the sale of silico valley bank to go through, the really want to sail to happe here, for a trusted financia institution to take over silicon valley bank. we are told in the past hour congress will house, and senat have virtually gotten briefing and what is happening here perhaps some more detail tha we heard from the public statement, so perhaps we'l hear from members in the comin hours and days, about exactl what the plan is here, but w should find out more from th president tomorrow morning according to him in iraq's about this topic, and we'll se what happens tomorrow. secretary? >> nbc's gary graham back, thank you for that update. join me now is jeff stein, wha house of commons reporter fo the washington post. jeff, the department o treasury federal reserve and fdic, are saying that no consequences will be borne b the taxpayer patelis, how is that possible? how would that actually work
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out? so >> this is gonna be the cor of what i expected to be the enormous political firestorm whether this doesn't does no consist of the b word here where that means bailout the way this will work as th treasury is agreed to step in, and approve action by the fdic to use a fund that is known as the deposit or insurance fund. which is exceeded and financed entirely by fees assessed on banks. so that's why they're saying this is not taxpayer money this is money that banks are being charged. now, there will be, i think, a reasonable rebuttal to thi point i same hay the money may be assessed on banks but in fact, it is still a treasury, fund if enough banks go under, it is ultimately the taxpayer that is accountable for that i posed my question to treasur officials tonight they sai they're essentially folks on
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the current situation. but we will see, think about the political backlash, becaus the administration will sa over and over this is no available, but those words are not magic, they don't make the action itself availed or not a bailout, as what we're gonna have to educate in the month to come, and as we watch unfold >> as you mentioned, of course this is going to be perceive as political and subject a lot of a lot of back and forth some of it is already happenin this morning, katie porter questions how svb, wasn't able to see its own collapse coming i want to take a, listen her she is talking to jonathan capehart on the sunday show. >> there are real questions, about why the bank didn' anticipate one of the most fundamental financial fact that everybody should know which is that interest rates g up, and they go down you canno
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that on those staying wher they were forever. they didn't, they went, up in bank wasn't prepared for it. there's some real oversigh questions about that >> your thoughts o congresswoman reporters remarks. >> i think there's gonna be ton of scrutiny in the comin weeks and months, about a bill that i covered, that was passe in 2019 or 2018, the trump administration were huge supporters of, also tons o democrats, but also members of not just joe manchin and mar warner, wheels to fully libera numbers of the party, but they are under intense pressure fro regional banks, to support which the regulated bank really in the 50 billion to 25 billion range, they are making the argument, hey, we didn't cause a great financial crisis we weren't responsible for mortgage bank security, let' time that would topple eve lead to that crisis so, why do we need district scree
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oversight that weren't now subjecting to those bigger banks. that argument prevailed, and i led to much less regulation to banks in the exact range of th silicon valley bank's in, whic had about 200 billion dollar in assets. so i don't have enough confidence in my reporting s far to say that appeal led t her this failure, and moreover there is some evidence and eve some liberal professors an experts and talk to him said look this bank may need more o oversight. but this is treasury securit these are not particularly speculative or dangerous asset that they were investing in. so yes we will have to be very careful about what happene there. >> jeff stein thank you. we'll have more on suv later this hour. next, mike pence has finally got something to say about trump, and his involvement wit january six. we
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accountable. but, if pence truly believes trump should be held accountable, why is he currently dodging a subpoena from special counsel jack smith, who is trying to do just that. that's for how hillary ember that dark day, the gop's personal pr machine, i currently trying to rewrit history before our very eyes as, week fox host tucker carlson uses primetime platform, to push lies about the attac on our capital with the help of footage provided him by house speake kevin mccarthy he portrayed a violent, deadly riot, as nothing more than a peaceful gathering so the atlantic's tom nichol describes, as a desperat attempt by carlson and co, t quote, whitewash january 6th but according to, nichols that plan is already failin miserably. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell causative called the fox post for trail, a mistake, and tom tillis in nort carolina, had some eve stronger words, blasting the remarks as quote, bs
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>> who's even called up by president biden himself, a nichols puts a, quote, perhaps the best thing for america democracy would be for carlson to keep bubbling his way through more january 6th footage, and keep images of th insurrection in front of millions of viewers for as lon as possible. if that's how mccarthy and carlson intend to restore th image of the gop, as a norma political party, who are any o us to argue with such pr gold? >> let's discuss, with tar setmayer, former gop communications director an comedian senior adviser for th lincoln project. and jill wine-banks, msnbc legal analyst and co-host of the sisters and law podcast. thank you both for joining me, tara, i want to begin with you and you get your reaction to pence's comments these comments have been calle his strongest rebuke yet o donald trump, so you ready t give him the profile in courag
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award? >> no, because he's already wo the lifetime achievement profile and cowardice award, a far as i'm concerned for the last three years who's hedged his words in slowly but surely said a couple thing here and there about january 6th. he was very cautious t criticize trump directly, unti you wrote a book, and then now in front of a room of d.c. insiders, something is off camera, he says something that play kids the crowd, and place what they want to hear, and no all of a sudden he's found his courage? i'm sorry, i'm not buying, i i'm over mike pence, and his game that he's playing, becaus he will say anything to try to win favor with the crowd and i just don't know who mike pence's constituency is at thi point. because if he was so upset, an so infuriated by went trump, did and felt so passionate about it then why hasn't he said this for the last two years he should've been consistent
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with his position about what donald trump did, because we all sat there with our own eyes, it was an insurrection he sa what his colleagues were doing by continuing to try to clai this is some type of tourist visit mike pence at the time even though he did the right thing at the time and i wa pretty low hanging fruit h knew is unconstitutional to tr to overturn a free and fai election imagine he'd been this passion in fourth right about it at th time maybe mccarthy any others woul have found some courage, and found her spine and actually vanquished don trump for the dictator want to be that he is but they didn't, and here we are. yet certainly does the see like he could've made difference earlier if he wante to jill, pence seems to have no problem issuing this kind of quick criticism, from the stage, from the pages of his book as terry mentioned, yet he still refuses to sit down with the special counsel, these public comments have any impac on his privilege claims.
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>> he is a hypocrite is no other word for this, when he says we need to get this ope and out in the donald trum will be held accountable in th future we need to be held accountable now, before it is an additional damage to our democracy. and pence has the information, firsthand, to make that happen and, yet is denying a subpoena is fighting a subpoena, is refusing to testify, and maybe it's because he's afraid h would have to tell the truth under oath, and he would hav to reveal things that would, i his, mind hurt him politically in terms of trump supporters he hurt hopes to get to suppor him in his campaign, t overtake trump, which seems to be foolish because his ability
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to get maga supporters, seem to me, impossible. he didn't do the one thing h wanted him to do on january 6th, so they never forgive him fo that they were screaming, hang mike pence, he's not gonna get thei support, now he had to com forward and vanquish the perso who did this to him, who i donald trump >> and tara, speaking of the political implications of this pence is widely expected to ru in 24. based on these comments, and i that times confusing stance on trump. does the ex vp have a lane anymore in the republican party? i mean, who is the pence voter in 2024? >> no. i mean, the handful of evangelicals, maybe, i think its constituency could fit in one room church, souther baptist church, along with mother in the founder of there really is no lane fo him. i've written this in the pas for msnbc, that's my cat he ha
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a greater chance of being th republican nominee for president, and mike pence. there is no possible way, whic is another reason why, h should just come forward and tell the truth, instead of playing these political games. but it almost feels like he's political sadomasochist, jus like kevin mccarthy. we continue to try to walk a maga line, and continue to get a base that does not want them they don't like them, becaus they are not sufficiently in the maga corner, when they wan him to be. as cowardly and as subservient as mike pence was during the entirety of the trum presidency, it still wasn' enough, because he didn' participate and what the wanted, and unconstitutional overturning over free and fair election from - i feel as though it's like a typical politician he'd rather go through thi status, nihilists exercise, an
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trying to run for an office to no one seems to want to for. >> jill, at the minute that we have left, i want to move on t tucker carlson's attempts, t rewrite the history of the insurrection, a former senio -- authored in new piece in politico magazine, to leave th role played by far-right extremists right now in d.c. -- out of this conspiracy theor square up to the reality actually played out in tha courtroom? >> there is nothing that links what he's doing, to facts or reality. it's an alternative universe let's look at this logically he got over 41,000 hours o tapes, he's used in minutes of that that brings the case more than anything else could, but there is no significant evidence tha this is what he's trying t
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portray, which was a walk in the park by some tourists. this was not, this was a cas in which five officers died, hundreds were injured, whe thousands have been indicted 500 have been convicted, it is no relation to truth and reality, it's like the fox lives, but they are going to b held accountable, for in the dominion case, and we need t just learn that there is no wa that fox is gonna tell the truth, because the lose thei audience, that's what the text messages show. they don't care about red or blue, murdaugh yourself said, only care about the green. they care about the money, and the business, and if they don' lie, they're gonna lose thei business >> sarah jill, please stic around, in just a moment, th implosion of jim jordan' so-called weaponizatio subcommittee our conversation continues plus, more on the breaking news,
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so-called weaponization of the so-called government subcommittee is at it again. and i added, again i mea rehashing old republican grievances and conspiracies. this, week the subcommitte held a hearing on some of ou nation's most pressing issues. twitter content censorship, an hunter biden's laptop. now, but - they're calling on jordan fo using the subcommittee to, advance an extreme agenda. but that pales in comparison t complaints from members of jordan's own party the washington post report that some of the far-right believe the subcommittees work is lackluster, and unforced,
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and have privately raise concerns to jordan about the structure and size and the panel staff. he can cover the right win federalists aside, he called i woke, performative oversight so much for the blockbuste oversight jim jordan promise when it launched less in a month ago. my sunday night panel is bac with me now. jill, let start with you what do you make of reportin the republicans also, ar concerned about the path thi is on >> of course, th republicans are saying he's no doing enough and the democrats are saying her saying he's doing too much but either way, he's being completely ineffective it has been lackluster, becaus that's because there's no ther there, and it's time for the american government to start focusing on solving problems
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americans face and i'll try to settle score or create false narratives, bu the fake election, or anything else that has nothing to d what is going on in government this is just wrong it is and what government oversight is about and it's a waste of time and money, and deliberatel designed to undermine trust in our government >> tara, congresswoman stace plaskett, the committees ranking member, -- this is a i see the pressure he's getting i see the pressur he's getting from others in th republican party, to get those to be benghazi two point oh.
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>> she's 100 percent right when i worked on capitol hill, benghazi was a big deal and sat through benghazi hearings. and there were serious we ar going on there, but there is also an opportunity, as kevi mccarthy said, to use it for political fodder against hillary clinton. but this time around, and at least the benghazi hearings, there are already oversigh committees, this is simply a vanity project for jim jorda himself. this is an opportunity to pree because there's nothing there, which is why it's been such flop, what's interesting i about all this is yet yes some republicans some of th right-wing like steve bannon extremists over there, a complaint that there's not enough money involved they onl have five staffers, th
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staffers are dedicated specifically to that committee so is not really structured, that's what they're complainin about. it's not structured like a normal select committee, you look with the january si committee, did they had a soli budget, that full-time staffers, and they were actually doing real work on behalf of the american people, this is not a serious thing, and demonstrating what a joke is every single day, every time they have these, hearings when they would try to people who are conspiracy theorists and everything else i think ther is some benefit to, this because we can see what th extreme maga agenda is on full display, and what a waste of taxpayer money and time it actually is. >> i want to turn out to the dominion voting systems lawsui against fox, the ap report some free speech advocates worry that the lawsuit could give a conservative suprem court a chance to revisit thei stance on liabilities. do you think that's possibility? >> well, anything is a
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possibility. and especially with the suprem court was so interesting, is that for a long time, th conservatives have been trying to undo new york times v sullivan, which creates harsher standard for, proving case against a public figure and that was on the theory tha but the news media was, libera and it is too easy for them to say, things and th conservatives can sue easily enough now of course, the shoes on th other foot they're the conservative new media, that is using that to protect themselves i think it's not going t matter, because the evidence i this case, is so overwhelming, there is direct proof of malice, and forethought. there is direct proof they lied, and knew they were lying so that even under the stricte standard of the new york times v. sullivan, i think fox new is going to clearly lose the
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lawsuit, dominion is going t prevail, the evidence shown in the texts and the emails they've gotten in discovery, prove the case under the new york times standard. so is really not going t matter, it's too late. >> tara setmayer and jil wine-banks thank you both for joining me. coming, up jim jordan how some company when it comes to gop committee chaos, the house oversight committee is falling apart. i'll speak with democrat jared moskowitz, remember that panel next but first, jessica layton is here with the headlines. i guess. >> thankfully on, breaking new this hour, president joe biden telling reporters on sunday, that he pant plans to speak on the silicon valley ban collapse tomorrow no warning this comes out to treasury secretary janet yellen, said i a statement that depositor detailed silicon valley bank of access to all of their mone starting monday. yellen also says, newark's signature bank was closed, and at their depositors would be
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made whole, regulators say n losses from the bank failure would be borne on taxpayers. now, a little background here. silicon valley bank, which was a leading lender of the tech industry, was placed under fdi control on friday. federal regulators tol california lawmakers on sunday that their top priority is selling the failed bank. those who banks with svb initially only had about $250,000 insured by the federa government but that cap will not be lifted. the cure for msnbc, and head t msnbc.com for the very latest. i'm just a late, and more of the mei hdhassan show, after this break kombucha business... ... i thought there would be a lot more kombucha... ...and a lot less business. inner voice (graphic designer): as a new small business owner... ...i've learned that trying to be the “cool” boss... ...is a lot harder when you're actually the “stressed” boss. inner voice (furniture maker): i know everything about my new furniture business. well, everything except... ...the whole “business” part. not anymore. with quickbooks,
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directly be movie removing right-wing networks. prosecuting president biden' son, those are a few of the -- james comer. those who tuned in last week o member, colors are patient for being the adults in their ow has taken a big hit since he started running the panel, and this, week it somehow got even worse. first, comer said it was a mistake that donald trum didn't bomb meth labs in mexico's president that is office announced a collaboration with marjori taylor greene. they are organizing a fiel trip to a d.c. jail, to visi
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january 6th defendants brain and others close to trump, have often referred to those defendants as quote, political prisoners of the biden administration democrats are now saying the committee is becoming a clow show earlier this, week the couldn't get a single one of their republican colleagues to support a statement condemning white nationalism. and the great replacemen conspiracy it's not just democrats fed up with comer, gop leaders ar also voicing concerns. comer has seen so many investigations, that other gop chairs are complaining, some actually fall under thei jurisdiction, instead of his joining me now is democratic congressman jared moskowitz, o florida, he's a member of th house oversight committe congressman, thank you for joining me we all know, from the outsid what it seems like, but i want you to take us inside the room what does it actually feel lik being on the committee, what exactly do you want to
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accomplish there >> well first, thanks fo having me, what it feels lik is that of a frontal sivul feel police circus at the end of the, day there i no strategy on behalf of the other side, they clearly are disorganized, i'm not even sur they're talking to each other, everyone just seems to commo air their own personal grievances they don't even know, where th president, was when certai things happened. surprise surprise, it wa donald trump, they keep trying to go back to the days o donald, trump and usin examples to attack joe biden there isn't donald trump did himself. you know, it is fascinating, because it just so happens tha they're actually terrible what they're trying to do you, no look, that's where w find ourselves the democrats were led by jami raskin, who did his homework we'll continue to fight th crazy, by putting pointing t the truth of facts >> how much of this is par for the course for republicans, wh hold the house majority, and how much of it is attributable
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to chairman kilmer himself there are reports this wee that even top republicans ar growing frustrated with hi leadership, what do you make o that >> well look, they've no accomplish anything really, so far, and it's three months we've been in congress something tells me that' really because they can all ge on the same page and i think you see that probably months the chairman because we have so man committees trying to do so man investigations, and they all want to investigate the same thing the nick, or which i this hunter biden thing. so they're all fighting over jurisdiction, and i thin that's just par for the course but i will tell you between al of the committees, i did oversight which was supposed t be this tv, committee ha turned out to be something o like a real housewives episode i mean it just really belong on bravo, it doesn't belong on a news channel yeah, look i don't know if comertown possibility, ask because he's got to keep all these factions together, between marjory, boebert, gosar,
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and some of the other folks, they want to accomplish thei own agenda, we that it reall is a sight to behold, becaus they've had months to prepare. on the stuff, they've been telling us what they want to go, after they've been telling, us and meanwhile doesn't appear that they're ready to prosecut any issue with any effectiveness, maybe taking field trip to go see the insurrectionists, in prison, i look forward to getting my field trip permission slip signed, and attending that field trip avoid, that's gonna be reall something, to maybe meet som of these people, are insurrectionists, that some of the congressman know personally i look forward to witnessing that >> pivoting just a, bit i want to hear your thoughts o james comer's comments about the silicon valley ban situation, on a sunday sho this morning, have a listen. >> then we see the outcome, an announced that they were one o
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the most woke banks, in thei quest for, the esg top policy, and investing, this could be - there are consequences for bad democrat policy, and i think w need to keep an eye on all the banking sector right now >> what do you make of tha congressman? >> i, mean we are really onl moments away from them telling us, wokeness to kill the dinosaurs. i mean, and that's really wher this is all heading for, wokeness is responsible fo everything to half the world focus was responsible for th chinese balloon, wokeness wa responsible for george santos. it's just ridiculous listen, this is a serious issue, i'm happy to see that the fdic and the treasury department of stepped up to protect thos depositors, they have to try t contain this one from spreadin contagion, amongst the other banks. i'm stillworried about tomorrow, monday, when the markets open, --
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because of a bipartisa briefing, there democrats an republicans in both chambers worried about this, and workin with the administration, to tr to again prevent contagion the members out there are gonn gaslighting try to grift o this that's what you're seeing congress it's one big thin episode one after the next after the next that's not gonn stop that doesn't mean there aren't serious people out ther trying to do serious work. congressman jared moskowit thank you. ahead, ron desantis is turning florida into a far right away's, and he already wants to do the same with the rest of th country. time for downy mcbride to go to work. ya'll gotta sniff this stuff! woop woop! - whoo - smells great, downy! ugh, cul-de-sacs. downy unstopables. you gotta sniff it to believe it. get help reaching your goals with j.p. morgan wealth plan, a new tool in the chase mobile® app.
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iowa, we are railed agains quote, woke ideology, and even took a job against donald trum ahead of his visit to th hawkeye state this coming week let's, avoid desantis is reportedly planning to mak stops and other early primar states, including nevada desantis is aiming to take his agenda nationwide, and i likely gonna do it on th campaign trail whether it's the don't say gay bill, the push to end, diversity, equity and inclusio programs in schools, o bullying but businesses like disney, florida has become a leader in attempts to own th libs but will that be enough fo republican voters in the res of the country or, should florida b considered a one-off, an anomaly. our next guests are taken on rhonda scent is his vision for america, both in the streets and in court reverend john doe how, or is the leader of the united churc of christ, that funded the new college of florida, and is now ground zero for desantis's
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education war. a state senator jason pizarro, is now suing desantis over his shipping immigrants across the country last year. both of them join me now thank you for joining. reverend, you've seen firsthan desantis's moves to remake florida's colleges in his imag how concerned are you about hi taking that agenda nationwide. well >>, that's are very concerned, we have a texas governor - that are using what he's doing as a model for their gonna d in their state it is a very common practice for republican operatives righ now, in the think tanks to produce these ideas, to states like florida is testing grounds, for broader strategies, that they're going to enact i was on the campus a ne college, a week and a half ago i met over two days of the
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student body there these are incredibly brilliant very right, incredibly compassionate students, that i my world there are rock stars. and tell us in them over today's talk about wha governor desantis is startin to do, not just to the campus, that scares, the path to the future is their hopes, their dreams their lives. it's absolutely frightening to them they have no idea what is in, what is coming and they are already a part of a movement going across th united states, of students, wh realize that they could very well be next senator, do you think that ron desantis is at risk of been to florida-centric as a candidate >> yeah, i'll give you a update on our lawsuit. we stipulated it, to dismiss it, because the governor was force to call a special sense is after we are set for trial, an
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went head to head th republican legislature go ahea and repeal that law, - on the issue that it was unconstitutional, when he took 49 asylum seekers out of you town of san antonio, and i'm stuck. but the nation is gonna find out, is while he's using the same playbook of crt, woke, peace stadium, florida i taking over school of severa hundred kids, and paint the new, president who's a former house speaker here, and th department education minister, upwards of $800, 000, which is just absolute nonsense you -- being kids and dry in a number of other bills, there were rather bullying from last year and he's seeking to go eve further, because he hasn't distinguished him selves fro other potential candidates i the primary. >> there's no question that if
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he runs, is gonna go out there as he has already, and he di in iowa, boasting about th florida model, but people ar also gonna get to hear, as you say, the other side of tha story. reverend, we don't need to speculate on what desantis's campaign might look like we can look at the florida legislature, which is lookin at expanding gun rights, cracking down on anything quote, woke and making it easier to sue media outlets fo defamation how does the left fight back against this agenda it seems s popular at least among a sizeable pop of the population >> that's a very important question i think there are a number of things the left ca do ice to travel the country talking about the machinations of the rights the religious an political right and it is so with a gentleman who used to describe the tactics of th right this way he said their plane tackle football and we'r
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playing touch football and we're gonna lose this game every time one of the things that we can do is stop believing that the best way to win these battles is to have a better argument there ar better arguments but we're not dealing largely with audiences who are looking for a better argument they want to know how's ca affect their children. they want to know how's ca affect their grandchildren i think that we need to center the lives of those have no only been marginalized by th rhonda santa's is of the political right but whose live have been ruined i think w need to talk about the lives there been shatter the hopes and dreams that are bein shattered, and broadcast the stories of those lives that ar just trampled upon by th machinations of the politica
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right and stop trying to believe that the best way to win this battle is to have a more thought out more rational argument >> senator of course one of th clichés of a candidate who print lines are running fo president, is that you put out a book and desantis is out for a ne book, designed to frame him as a truth teller, tackling rea issues but in a, book he has nothin to say about january 6th, in there. why do you think that is >> i think there is a number o revisionist history pieces that are in that book, jornada tell you this in your viewer to know, that the least popula state legislature, republicans nationwide for desantis, i actually in florida. he may be america's best governor, as he's billio himself to be. but he's florida's worst
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legislature. i can tell you that in m florida colleagues can't wai for him to get out of the way. there's gonna be som conspicuous voids in that work and also some sections o revisionist history, number of other issues talking about - he was owed and his wife and kids are away and you could as a local prosecutor there wer no cases prosecuted. so he's got a bit of revisionist history, he's used to being sort of, give softballs and sort of nicely structured press conferences and when he gets out there i think reverend will agree with one i'm about to say nations about the season thi man has very little compassion and very little brace. >> reverend john seed or how or and state senator jason pizona, thank you so much. back in just a moment. about these glasses. yeah, it happens. that's why visionworks gives you 100 days to change your mind. it's simple.
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