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a rollback of regulations on banks. i will be joined by democratic congressman and former venture capitalist josh harder on the next steps to stabilize the banking industry this hour, former president trump taking the fight directly to ron desantis in iowa. >> ron de-sanctiuos. he is aisciple of paul ryan. he reminds me of mitt romney in california, 11 people were gunned down in january, president biden will announce stronger gun background checks i will talk to the congresswoman from that district, judy chu

good day i'm andrea mitchell in washington, d.c. "the wall street journal" is reporting that the justice department and the securities and exchange commission are investigating the collapse of silicon valley bank and stock seals sales by its executives before the bank went under. they are questioning whether regulators should seen troubled signs in new york signature bank they are scrambling to diffuse political fallout. inflation moderated slightly for the eighth month in a row but is still rabove the fed's 2% goal ahead of next week's meeting to set interest rates. another factor in the decision, the stress on the banking industry from the financial turmoil caused by silicon valley bank and signature bank this recent days. steve leaseman joins us now. the banking industry is

rebounding after taking big losses yesterday. what about the investigations? we don't know what the investigations in svb might lead to they are pretty proforma given there was stock sales and bonuses ahead of the collapse. >> i think it's my understanding these things are proforma when there's a large bank failure there's two areas of investigation that you highlighted in your opening. the first is whether or not there's specific issues that need to be looked at, specifically whether there was any wrongdoing that was done nothing apparent has come to the fore immediately the other thing is structural and systemic is there something wrong with the supervision system is there something more broadly broken inside the broader banking system that needs to be looked at and investigated and otherwise have rules and regulations changed so this

doesn't happen again as for stock sales, it seems to have been a regularly scheduled stock sale the bonuses on that friday afternoon, that might be something regulators and lawmakers might want to look at. >> you were on with larry summers yesterday. the president was promising to cover all uninsurred banks other than those two that failed does that put a huge burden on the fdic and the fed >> not necessarily the extent that there are additional losses -- it's supposed to be paid for by the banking system itself through the deposit insurance fund that is funded by the banks i guess perhaps we all pay for it through whatever fees and other things we pay to our banks, either that or through lower bank profitability

it should not come from taxpayers to the extent there are losses to the fund >> looking forward to the federal reserve meetings next week, does today's inflation number, plus all of this, change what they might do in terms of next week's rates? >> well, i mean, if you were to just look at this number and you didn't have any problems in the banking system, almost certainly the fed would hike by a least 25 and maybe by 50. you are right, this has been coming down. but it remains too high for the federal reserve. the concern at the fed is that people start to embed in their expectations the idea that inflation will be high in the future and doubt the fed's considered buicredibility to brg it down. you have to see whether this tightens less economic activity furthering the possibility of a recession. that's really dis-inflationary over time. the trouble is the numbers the

fed has right now, the inflation numbers from today don't include that prospective possibility that things will worsen because of the banking situation right now. we need to see -- as you said, the bank stocks are doing better today. the government guarantee or the implicit guarantee is a little bit more -- more confidence in it i did talk to a senior official. is it implicit, explicit he said, a central component of the strategy has been sending a clear message to depositors, including those beyond the two banks in receivership, that their deposits with safe if another bank fails again, the uninsured depositors will be insured. >> that's something that's very strongly coming from the treasury that's such an interesting information from your interview. the president was sort of

projecting that in saying that they were going to do everything they could to make sure that this did not spread. >> yeah. the reason why there is no blanket insurance -- first of all, it's not the law. the law is up $250,000 so people who are watching at home, if you have $250,000 in the bank or less, that's insured. the question is those over it. they need a finding of systemic rinki risk >> steve, thank you very much. joining us is banking committee member chris van hollen how would you judge the way the administration has responded, especially compared to 2008? >> i give the biden administration very high marks for the way they responded and responded quickly.

first of all, making it clear that they are not going to bail out the owners or investors in silicon valley bank. but also assuring depositors, all depositors that they will be held harmless. that was an important step to make sure that employees throughout the country who work for different companies that bank with silicon valley bank got paid payroll and to prevent cont contagion. they moved quickly and effectively. now, of course, we need to conduct a full postmortem to figure out everything that went wrong to prevent this kind of thing from happening going forward. >> you voted against weakening dodd-frank 67 voted in favor of rolling it back there was a lot of lobbying on this, as you would be well aware. wasn't that a big mistake? >> i think it was a mistake.

that's why i voted against it. again, we need to do a full postmortem as to what happened here my guess is there were a number of factors clearly, scaling back the regulatory oversight, which is what that bill did that donald trump signed, is a factor. what that did was change the required stress tests and oversights applied to banks in the range of -- it had been from $50 billion up what that legislation did was scale that back so only banks of $250 billion and up were subject to that more rigorous oversight. i think that was a factor. there are, of course, other factors at play. we will be looking on the senate banking committee as to what we should do. i should mention, andrea, that just last january, the chairman of the senate banking committee

and i wrote to the fed and the fdic supporting measures they have undertaken, a rule making they have undertaken to try to reduce risk in the system. until just the other day, republicans on the senate banking committee were criticizing the fed for moving forward on those actions again, let's take a full review of what happened and then take the necessary action >> "the wall street journal" is reporting that the justice department and the securities and exchange commission are investigating the bank's collapse and those stock sales by its executives. what concerns do you have about management decisions and bonuses? >> well, certainly, there were very bad management decisions. there are two issues, as you have been discussing one is whether there was outright wrongdoing, crimina wrongdoing with respect to insider trading. we don't have any facts on that

yet, with respect to stock sales. even if there was no insider trading here, trading on that inside information, i do think that certainly the profits from the sales by the owner should be clawed back. we're going to have to be raising fees on banks in order to pay for the uninsured depositors at this bank and other banks. it's only fair that those who profited, at least on the very day this was going under -- or just weeks before that, should have to make a contribution to helping keep depositors whole. >> do you see any chance congress would reverse itself and reverse the rollback on dodd-frank and toughen the regs? >> well, we should whether we roll it back --

reverse it entirely or in part, my view is that that was a mistake. that's why i voted against it. i am not sure we're going to get our republican colleagues to support it, even though in the last 48 hours they have been pretty quiet about that rollback i understand why but i do think that congress should act i think congress should also fully support the rule making that's been undertaken by the fed and the fdic to try to look at the rules and reduce risks. just in a hearing last week in the senate banking committee, republican senators were criticizing the fed for taking a look at how they can reduce these risks. i hope that will no longer be the case >> senator, thank you very much. china. president biden announcing a major deal to send nuclear

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was a member of congress and he voted and co-sponsored legislation to roll back the renewable fuel standard which requires the u.s. fuel supply have a certain percentage of the fuel supply consist of renewable fuels, that includes ethanol, which is a big industry, of course, here in iowa for donald trump to note, he did take this tact eight years ago ted cruz, who had a similar position as desantis, won the iowa caucus. that's not enough for donald trump this go around what's notable is this was the first time that donald trump took on ron desantis by name from the campaign stage. let's be frank, it's not even the first inning ron desantis isn't in the batter's box he is trying on a uniform to see whether he wants to jump in or not. but donald trump doesn't have a batter to bat against. what you saw last night in front of 2,500 is the fact that donald trump hit him on social security

and medicare reform. you heard him there. it suggests he was a disciple of paul ryan, back to the republican party of old. for donald trump, this is him sending the signal as if you are going to get in the race, ron desantis and leave your position as florida governor behind, get ready. i'm going to play ball >> there's no clock on that batter's box desantis doesn't have to get in right away the fact is that he is going to have to hit back at some point before he declares or after. >> right what desantis is trying to do is resist the tug from donald trump, who has been trying for a while now. this is the first time technically on the campaign trail. he has been doing it on his social media site. to promote desantis into some kind of response to get into a fight with him so he can begin putting him in the trump grinder, which we can tell

is going to be quite aggressive. he senses a very real threat from ron desantis. desantis is popular with the republican base and donors he is getting huge crowds. his book was the number one best seller immediately within its first week trump feels pressure to run to the right on these issues, like vaccines and education, because of desantis' agenda, which is really popular with the base desantis -- you were right, he cannot not fight back until june when he is hinting he will get in the race. he is waiting until the conclusion of the state legislature in florida there's going to be repeated questions at all his supposed book tour events that are pre-campaign appearances they are going to be questions about trump -- we don't know if ron desantis is up for the response

>> sabrina, desantis is defining a major split in his own party by coming out against supporting ukraine in the war against russia, telli ing fox news, the u.s. has many vital interests, securing our border, addressing the crisis of readiness with our military, energy security and independencebecoming further entangled in a dispute between ukraine and russia not one of them. marco rubio and is the ranking on intelligence pushed back immediately against those comments let's listen >> sabrina, this is a major fault line in the republican

party already. is the white house -- you were in kyiv as the only reporter traveling that time with the president. is the white house concerned about loseing domestic support >> i think a big part of president biden's decision to travel to kyiv around the anniversary of russia's invasion in ukraine was to reinforce u.s. support for ukraine in this conflict i think the polling one year later shows that most americans still stand by ukraine you do see a softening in that support when it comes to whether or not the u.s. government should be providing financial assistance to ukraine. i think that's what some republicans are now tapping into i think the real question for the white house would be, what happens if they want to try and move an aid package through congress where it has to get through a new house republican majority house speaker kevin mccarthy has said along with mitch mcconnell

that it's just an isolated few who don't support ukraine. we stand ready to help that's different when you have to get votes you have a growing opposition in the republican party to support ukraine. that's a major theme in these republican primaries as well >> absolutely. they have enough money to get through september from last year's supplemental. then they will need more money eugene, after mike pence had for the first time really levelled criticism at donald trump, his harshest to date, at the gridiron dinner, but off camera at a private dinner on saturday night, donald trump said in iowa -- i guess on route to "the washington post" on the plane, he said that january 6 would not have happened if mike pence had just taken those electoral ballots back to the state

legislators. in other words, overturned the election >> i was there at the gridiron dinner when pence said those things we gasped, because he doesn't usually hit back at trump at all. i will say, on pence, he has had to figure out what he is going to with donald trump donald trump will continue to say things like this he has been upset with pence about january 6 from the very beginning, from before january 6 when he was trying to convince him that he had the power to overturn the will of the american voters, which he does not. every legal expert -- most legal experts will tell you that he does not have that power no vice president has seemed to feel like they have that power they will continue to this battle over and over donald trump, he blames mike pence for losing the election and by losing it on january 6, not being able to overturn the will of the voters that is something that mike pence's team knows they ignore that talk because it's nothing new they have heard it over and over >> critics are saying that if he

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savings and loans crisis in the 1980s. silicon valley bank saw $42 billion of withdrawal in a single day that's not it's a wonderful life in the digital era, confidence can disappear faster than a snapchat message we need more scrutiny to protect other banks and the regional banks going forward. >> what do you see as the impact on the tech sector since they finance so many startups >> i don't want to be in a nation where three or four very large banks based no new york city dominate financial services all across the country regional banks play an incredibly important role. they understand local conditions better than anyone they foster innovation if you look at silicon valley bank's customers, they were working to cure cancer, to enhance our national security. i think what we have been able to do with these emergency measures is protect a domino

affect from affecting other folks across northern california and other regional banks across the country. we ensure there's more regulation and stability in the sector i want to make sure there's a vibrant role for small and mid-size banks across the nation >> should the dodd-frank rule have been rolled back in favor of the regional banks as it was? >> absolutely not. i think we have seen the mistake of that. i opposed that effort in 2018. we're going to need to do a couple things. first, these emergency measures have been successful, at least so far there's going to need to be a full investigation both of what bank management did. they paid themselves millions of dollars in bonuses hours before this bank collapsed. i'm looking to hopefully claw back some of that money or all of it and trying to make sure it goes towards people that need it we need more scrutiny on

regulators these banks still should have been more heavily regulated than they were. i think regulators were asleep at the wheel and not anticipating this crisis before it happened. we're going to need to make sure there's higher insurance guarantees and we will need stronger regulations for the entire regional banking industry >> regarding these regulations, just how frustrated are your constituents that these leaders of svb and maybe other banks were permitted to make these risky bets and take those bonuses? which you said should -- >> people are very frustrated. when people hear about a name like silicon valley bank, they think this is mark zuckerberg or elon musk. the folks affected by this are farm workers and the wine making and agricultural parts of my district workers and front line companies

who weren't sure they would get paid this week and make rent there's an enormous amount of uncertainly. thanks to the measures that regulators put in place this weekend, those folks are going to be able make payroll this week those folks are going to be able to make sure their bills get paid but it's frustrating to see the corruption and selfishness from bank management who put their own interests ahead of workers who were in real uncertainty and danger >> some republicans are calling this woke banking, because the bank was prioritizing things like climate and diversity and took their focus off of the business itself. it seems -- what do you think about applying the term woke now to just about everything >> i don't think anybody would call this woke banking if they talked to the folks making the decisions. if anything, it was the same old selfishness we have seen in the banking industry that goes without enough regulatory

scrutiny that's happened for centuries. i think some republicans want to avert blame from the bill that passed in the trump administration to roll back some of the bank regulations which could have saved silicon valley bank and the depositors from this period of great uncertainty. what i would like to see happen right now is a real thorough investigation. we need congressional hearings where bank managers are asked tough questions and can answer to the american public for the mistakes they have made. i would like to include regulators in that as well this system did not work as intended part of that blame should fall on regulators as well for being asleep at the wheel and not being able to see this before it actually happened. >> congressman josh harder, good to see you again thanks very much >> thank you executive action in the last few moments, president biden issued an order to strength background clhecks for new gun sales.

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much -- how much consolation he wants to offer to them in their grief, in their terrible tragedy, and so, yes, this is very meaningful. >> and how can a ban on high capacity magazines like what the monterey park shooter used make it through congress if the president can't do it? when the party had control of both chambers and it can't be done by executive order? >> these high capacity magazines have no place in our society in fact, this shooter had a semi-automatic pistol and enhanced it with this high capacity magazine, which allowed him to make 42 rounds of shooting in a matter of minutes. and so, these have to be eliminated high capacity magazines and assault weapons were banned for ten years in this country, so it can be done, and it did, in

fact, save lives, so no matter what, we have to continue our call to ban these high capacity magazines and assault weapons. >> during the oscars on sunday night, you tweeted a photo of the cast and the crew of "everything everywhere all at once" holding their pre-oscar nomination dinner, the film went on to win seven oscars after 11 nominations. as a trailblazer, how meaningful are those oscar wins >> it was just incredible. and in fact i did meet the producer of this movie, "everything everywhere all at once." he said they made the deliberate decision to have their pre-oscar nomination dinner right in monterey park to show solidarity with what had happened but i just have to say, we are so heartened that it got so many academy awards because it just shows that people in america can

embrace the asian american experience and that they can see asian americans as incredible actors and actresses >> and the context, of course, we have got new fbi data showing that hate crimes against the aapi community are up 200% you have been the target of xenophobic attacks, house colleague congressman gooden questioning your loyalty to our country. you say you're the target of the right's new mccarthyism. is history repeating itself in the way you and others are being targeted >> well, there is this xenophobic mccarthyism that is happening right now from the extreme members of the republican party and, yes, this congress member from texas accused me of not being loyal and said i should be investigated as being a spy for china. this is outrageous and it is disgusting and reinforces the

stereotype that asian americans are forever foreigners in their own country. and this comes on top of the fact that we have been fighting antiasian hate crimes due to trump calling covid-19 the china virus. in fact, there were 11,500 antiasian hate crimes over the past three years and there is this type of mccarthyism on top of that right now. >> a lot of that was promulgated by former president trump in the way he was, you know, demeaning china and connecting the virus to china and to all, you know, to other people in the community. thank you very much, congresswoman judy chu i know it is going to be an emotional day. hopefully it will be of some comfort to the community, which suffered so grievously thank you for your service. >> thank you thank you so much. i want to talk -- >> thank you, congresswoman chu. and i want to talk about another

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their dignity. when they refused to let her travel with the congressional delegation overseas, saying i wouldn't send you to represent this committee at a dogfight, there she is with shirley chisholm, another trailblazer. she was the primary sponsor of the national child protection act of 1993, played a key role in passing the violence against women act in 1994, a strong advocate for the breast and cervical cancer mortality prevention act to help women get screenings she briefly explored running for president in 1987 but dropped out in a tearful farewell speech that led to a lot of ridicule from a lot of quarters pat schroder was a fearless advocate when it was tough for women in many sectors. her daughter says she died from complications of a stroke. and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports. follow the show online, on facebook and twitter at mitchell reports. chris jansing reports starts right after this

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