>> i prefer coming at night instead but i guess like the practicality of it, it's better during the day >> reporter: experts say more businesses are tracking consumer spending habits to determine when or even what to charge more for. >> if you know that consumers demand a product or a service during certain times, it will allow you to calculate the willingness to pay more. >> reporter: to avoid the sticker shock of dynamic pricing check online for promo codes and discounts that can offset peak pricing. look for loyalty programs that will allow you to lock in standard rates and if you want to dodge sticker shock book that water park or tee time as far out as possible to make the most of your buck without paying a premium sam brock, nbc news. >> wow okay we've got a lot to cover in the second hour of "chris jansing reports. let's get right to it.

at this hour stock sell-off. the u.s. market sharply lower at this hour because of worries about a europe-based bank. what's happening and why republicans hold a hearing with the border patrol chief at the texas border but all 15 democrats on the committee skipped it the latest sign of the immigration divide also in texas new details from inside that courtroom where a trump-appointed judge is hearing arguments over whether to pull an abortion pill off the market nationwide. presidential prescription. president biden in las vegas about to push his administration's new plan to lower the cost of prescription drugs. we'll bring you his remarks as soon as they start our reporters are fanned out all across the country following the latest developments. but we begin in the battleground state of nevada where any minute now president biden will speak about his plan to lower prescription drug prices

mike memoli is traveling with the president. i think that state has one of or the highest prescription drug prices in country. what are we expecting to hear from the president, mike >> well, chris, you look at those red arrows on wall street today, the latest indications of economic jitters still for many americans. but the president still thinks he has a strong economic case to make as he heads into a potential re-election campaign so he's going to be putting a lot spotlight on one of his major legislative accomplishments, the inflation reduction act, talking specifically about his provisions regarding prescription drugs, the ability of the government to negotiate the price of prescription drugs. the price cap on insulin for medicare beneficiaries at $35. the fact that there are now requirements for drug companies to rebate to consumers when the cost of prescription drugs rises faster than the rate of inflation. that's really one of the things the president is going to be focused on today it may sound like small numbers. the average medicare beneficiary saving about $70 a year because

of another provision of the i.r.a., free vaccines. but the white house says they see this is a small dollar amount to some but for especially seniors on fixed incomes this is real money, real savings and they're leading into an economic contrast with congressional republicans who have vowed to repeal the inflation reduction act. we've seen this repeatedly from president biden, picking a fight with congressional republicans as he waits for his potential republican opponent in 2024 to emerge about a year from now it's worth noting, chris, this is the end of the three-day road trip the president has been making out west. it's only his second visit to the state of nevada since becoming president the only other one was to attend the memorial service for the late senate majority leader harry reid but with that re-election campaign on the horizon i'm going to make a bold prediction here, chris be, which is the president's going to be coming to nevada a lot more often this is of course a key swing state, one of those that's gone back and forth and one that the democrats are going to have their eye on as well as for a key senate race in 2024, chris >> mike memoli going out on a

political limb for us. thank you so much for that, mike now to new details from the federal courthouse in amarillo, texas. that hearing in a critical abortion case. nbc's morgan chesky is there for us morgan, what more are we learning about today's arguments? >> reporter: chris, argue aments ongoing right now inside this amarillo district courthouse where we know at last check the government was making their arguments. they were allotted two hours to do so. and this follows arguments made earlier today by this group of plaintiffs led by this alliance of hippocratic medicine, this anti-abortion group centered in tennessee that established a presence here in amarillo back in august 2022 my colleague dasha burns reporting that they made 90 minutes' worth of arguments earlier today, saving 30 minutes for a rebuttal following the government's argument that is ongoing at this hour, chris. but just to frame this, what could be decided upon here in

amarillo could of course impact the entire nation when it comes to that abortion drug methoprestone, the first pill taken in a two-pill combo that's been used in large part across the country for the past 20 years. dasha reporting earlier today, chris, that the plaintiffs made the arguments earlier today in two parts, number one, that the fda rushed the safety procedure when they approved miff pris-tone back 20 years ago and they also argue over time safety regulation s and/or restrictions have been loosened starting in 2016 and carrying over into the pandemic where mifepristone was allowed to be prescribed via telehealth now, keep in mind this has been a mostly closed-door session, so no cameras are allowed in there. very little note taking is allowed right now. so we don't know the extent of arguments that have taken place on behalf of the government,

chris, but we do know those arguments are ongoing, expected to wrap up today and this is all being made to a judge as you mentioned appointed by president trump back in 2017, judge andrew kaczmarek who has been known to volunteer for multiple republican campaigns prior to his appointment. and so that is why critics of this lawsuit, chris, have essentially said this is a case of forum shopping where the plaintiffs sought out this particular district and this particular judge to hear this case where we hope to have a bit more insight. judge, of course it's within his discretion today, chris, to make a decision today, tomorrow or to say that he's going to take some time to consider the arguments from both sides. so we might not hear anything for several weeks from now chris? >> morgan chesky, thanks for that update. appreciate it. but again, those arguments ongoing. we have two lawyers standing by to dive deeper into that case, and if the judge does rule for the plaintiff what will be the immediate impact and how much longer could this

legal fight last we've got that coming up ahead but for now house republicans are trying to put a spotlight on issues at the border by holding a hearing in texas democrats refusing to join what they described as a political stunt. nbc's ali vitali is following from capitol hill. have he we learned anything from this hearing so far? >> reporter: look, chris, this follows what the other hearings at the border that we've seen in recent weeks from house republicans looks like it's them going to the border, republicans only, democrats not willing to engage with these hearings for example, i was just in yuma, arizona at a different point on the border that one was with the house judiciary committee. but the questions here that we're seeing today in texas and still ongoing in this hearing, as you can see, follow those lines pretty closely it is highly partisan. republicans trying to hammer home the border crisis as something that has worsened under the biden administration certainly the numbers say that it has gotten worse. but the dhs officials that i've been speaking to say that

january as well as february show a decrease in the numbers of illegal border crossings and that's in large part because of the caps and other restrictions they've put on the ways that migrants can declare asylum and other capacities for them to come into the country in a more legal fashion. nevertheless, listening to the line of questioning here from the chairman of this committee, for example. watch. >> why do they feel suddenly, after january of 2021, that they can come here? >> i would think that that we have what we call push and pull factors. some of those push factors are certainly going to be economic conditions in their host countries. >> those were there before, chief. i mean, they were there before hurricanes happened in central america before what changed >> i think as you look at the u.s. and what we're experiencing now with the economic conditions that we have here, the health conditions that we have here we're in much better position than most of the countries we're dealing with -- >> again i would assert to you that all that was there before

january '21. >> so the answer that the chairman probably wanted there was the change in administration but as that border official was saying those push-pull factors which we hear so often about from our experts who cover this every day but as well from the administration, the push-pull factors are clearly where the border patrol agents were putting their focus. but this house majority has consistently tried to argue that it's the policies of the biden administration that have worsened this situation. of course also a focus on fentanyl and that crossing the border in illegal fashion as well, chris. so a lot of the same themes that we've seen >> ali vitali, thank you for that now to your money and wall street where it has been, to say the least, a turbulent day cnbc's contessa brewer is with me so first we had silicon valley bank, signature bank now you have this bigger bank that is based outside of the u.s. but it's got investors on edge what's going on right now? what do we know, contessa? >> shares of european bank

credit suisse, its biggest one-day sell-off because its biggest investor, saudi national bank, turned off the spigot so to speak it said it would give no more financial assistance to credit suisse the bank had reported weakness in the way it reports its financials although the bank's ceo said today its liquidity is very, very strong. still, the concern spread to other european banks and shares fell for ubs, deutschebank, barclays and others, dragging down the european stock exchanges. now, here in the u.s. the fallout from the collapse of silicon valley bank and signature bank have spooked investors. today first republic's shares have plummeted more than 20% is got a credit downgrade. pac west bank corp. down about the same and even the biggest banks, jpmorganchase, goldman sachs, citigroup, wells fargo, morgan stanley are all down between 4% and 6% today i asked the ceo of the mortgage bankers association for his perspective on the threats that

his member banks face and he told me this blame game is just nuts he says the blame in all of this falls squarely on the management of silicon valley bank and the regulators who should have seen the mismatch of assets and liabilities. in his view he says mid-size and regional banks generally are getting painted unfairly with the very same brush and forced to try and calm their depositors' fears at this point. the other economic news i'm focused on that on any other day would dominate business headlines, the producer price index, or wholesale prices they fell unexpectedly in february a tenth of a percent decline when what was expected was an increase of .3 of a percent. still this is 4.6% higher than it was last year again, this is another indication that we're fighting inflation. retail sales have fallen .4 of a percent. especially when we're looking at auto sales and bars and restaurants. and chris, what we'll likely be seeing as welcome news for

breakfast lovers everywhere, i just want to be the bearer of good news here egg prices have dropped nearly 40% after skyrocketing over the last year. so now all eyes on the fed meeting next week and whether it hikes rates again. how much in the meantime we're taking a close look at the dow, the s&p, the nasdaq and it is a rocky road >> egg prices, time to go home and bake a cake. cnbc's contessa brewer, thank you so much. >> thank you americans pay nearly three times more for prescription drugs than any other countries president biden's plan to change that we're live in las vegas as the president is set to speak. catastrophic flooding in california coming on the heels of deadly drought. but is one impacting the other we'll explain ahead. plus, reporting on what republican house members thought of ron desantis when he was in congress and how they feel about him now. it is so interesting you're watching "chris jansing reports," only on msnbc.

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the texas abortion case being heard by a kconservative judge today is raising huge questions about future access to some abortion pills nationwide and the right of the public to know even that the hearing is happening. trump-appointed judge matthew kaczmarek is being asked to do something that has never been done before, force the fda to revoke approval of a medication that's been on the market for more than 20 years more than half of all abortions

in the u.s. are done by pills, and this decision could pull one of them off the market nationwide, even in places where abortion is legal. i want to talk about it with nbc news senior legal correspondent laura jarrett. tella farhadian weinstein is a former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. let me ask you both about what little we know about what happened inside because they're not allowing anybody in there with any kind of device. dasha burns came out and she said look, he asked some questions about a couple of intervening events that caused changes to the rules for prescribing. in 2016 and 2022 one of the things that was mentioned was telehealth what does that tell both of you? >> we're still just trying to read the tea leavens because don't have the benefit of a live stream -- >> i'm sorry to have to interrupt because secretary austin is briefing and he's talking about the russian jet and its collision with a u.s.

drone. >> -- an unmanned u.s. q-9 aircraft conducting operations in international airspace. one russian jet struck our mq-9 aircraft resulting in a crash. this hazardous episode is a part -- is part of a pattern of aggressive, risky and unsafe actions by russian pilots in international airspace b now, i just got off the phone with my russian counterpart, minister shoigu. as i've said repeatedly, it's important that great powers be models of transparency and communication. and the united states will continue to fly and to operate wherever international law allows and it is incumbent upon russia to operate its military aircraft in a safe and professional manner now, let me turn to the important work of this contact

group. today our extraordinary allies and partners reaffirmed our unity and resolve in supporting ukraine's fight for freedom. we were joined again today by some 50 nations of goodwill from all around the globe and they all understand that ukraine's battle to defend itself from russian aggression is vital for everyone who values the core principles of sovereignty, self-determination, and freedom. today we were joined again by my good friend minister oleksiy resnickoff he comes to each contact meeting with a core message for the next steps in ukraine's resistance to russia's campaign of conquest. and the presentations from him and his team underscore the continued urgency of our support. this contact group has pushed hard to ensure that ukraine can

defend itself from putin's imperial aggression. brave ukrainians stood firm during russia's ground invasion with the help of their new anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles, which contact group countries have provided. and russia hopes to grind down ukraine in a war of attrition. but ukraine has been supplied by more than 40 countries meanwhile, russia has had to depend on iran and north korea and has had to use equipment dating back to world war ii. so russia is running out of capability and running out of friends putin has now had a year's worth of proof that the united states and the contact group will support ukraine's right to defend itself for the long haul. but putin still hopes he can wear down ukraine and wait us

out. so we can't let up and we won't. ukraine doesn't have any time to waste. and i heard clearly today that our fellow contact group members also know that we have to deliver swiftly and fully on our promised commitments and that includes delivering our armored capabilities to the battlefield and ensuring that ukrainian soldiers get the training, spare parts and maintenance support that they need to use these new systems as soon as possible and we'll continue to dig deep for new donations. and today we heard updates on our progress in some significant new commitments. sweden has announced that it will provide ukraine with ten leopard tanks and key air defense components norway is partnering with the united states to donate two nasam systems to ukraine the netherlands is making great progress in initiating new

contracts to ensure that new capabilities continue to arrive on the battlefield and i want to thank slovenia for its latest contribution, which helps meet several of ukraine's priority requirements including armor. for more than a year now far-sighted donations like these by members of this contact group have been crucial to ukraine's fight for sovereignty. and we have provided crucial combat capabilities that ukraine's defenders will use to further repel russia's invasion and to exercise initiative and to create favorable conditions on the battlefield but for ukraine to protect its sovereign territory and its citizens over the long term we must keep going. so we're going to help ukraine sustain the tanks, the infantry fighting vehicles, and other armored vehicles that are making their way into the front lines and we're going to continue

urgently training ukrainian soldiers on the capabilities that we're providing and on the combined arms maneuver tactics that they need to succeed. we're going to keep looking into our stocks and into our budget to resupply ukraine throughout the year and we're going to continue to -- continue our important work in lock-step with our ukrainian partners to maintain accountability for the security assistance that we're providing. and finally, above all, we're going to stay united together we're helping ukraine fight to live free, and together we're helping to show that rules matter, and together we're helping to advance our shared security in an open world of rules and rights so thank you very much and i'll now turn it over to the chairman for his comments. >> good afternoon, everyone. and thank you, secretary austin, for your leadership. this as the secretary pointed out is our tenth contact group

and these meetings and the donations that come from it would not be happening without the incredible leadership of secretary austin so thank you for that. your direction remains critical to the future success of the group. and also thank you to the ukrainian minister of defense resnickoff my counterpart general zaluzhny who was not on the call but i've talked to him several times in the past week and the deputy chief of defense who represented general zaluzhny, general moisu. all of them continue to lead ukraine in their fight for freedom. also thanks to you will at the ministers of defense and chiefs of defense from 51 participants in today's meeting including nato and the european union. they join the meeting and they continue to provide critical support to ukraine each nation is contributing what they can to ensure ukraine has the means to defend itself against the illegal and unprovoked russian invasion. it's been nearly 13 months since russia invaded the sovereign

nation of ukraine. ukraine has been independent since 1991 and has presented no threat whatsoever to russia. russia launched and has continued for over a year now a war of aggression in flagrant violation of international law this is and remains a russian frontal assault on the rules-based international order that has been in place for 80 years, eight decades since the end of world war ii. in the faesce of this active aggression, in a war of conquest, this group remains unified. nato is united, the people of ukraine are unyielding they're standing steadfast in the face of the russian onslaught. russia remains isolated. their military stocks are rapidly depleting. their soldiers are demoralized, untrained, unmotivated

conscripts and convicts. and their leadership is failing them having already failed in their strategic objectives, russia is increasingly relying on other country such as iran and north korea as the secretary pointed out. they're using iranian drones to continue to terrorize ukrainian civilians. this relationship is built on the cruel bonds of oppressing freedom, subverting liberty and maintaining their tyranny. yet free people will not return to the shackles of tyranny ukrainians remain defiant, with steel in their spines and courage in their veins and they have the broad support of the united states and the international community. the battle of bakhmut continues. but ukraine is fighting with valor. with robust defenses ukraine has fixed the russian forces at that city and they're exacting very heavy costs on the wagner group and the russian regular military ukraine remains strong they are capable and trained

ukrainian soldiers are strong in their combat units their tanks, infantry fight vehicles and armored vehicles are only going to bolster the front line ukrainian precision munitions continue to target the logistics and communications systems of russia lacking effective small unit leaders and absent the proper equipment, this is a grinding attrition warfare that russia is trying to execute. wave after wave of russian soldiers are thrown into the chaos of war absent any sort of synin sinkrise synchronized coordination and equipment right now there is intense fighting in and around bakhmut and the russians are making small tactical advances but at great cost elsewhere the front line remains relatively static with significant exchanges of artillery but no significant maneuver gains by either side. right now as you know there's a

significant ongoing effort to build up the ukrainian military in terms of equipment, munitions and training in a variety of countries in order to enable ukraine to defend itself the increased ukrainian capability will allow the ukrainian leadership to develop and execute a variety of options in the future to achieve their objectives and bring this war to a successful conclusion. this is an act of brutal aggression by president putin and the russian military with complete disregard for human life, both civilian and military the russians are wantonly killing civilians in large attacks on civilia infrastructure and densely populated urban areas. the severely undertrained, poorly led, poorly equipped russian forces are conducting mindless frontal attacks and sacrificing hundreds per day the political objectives that putin intended to achieve 384 days ago are obvious to the world and it should be obvious to put thane these objectives are no longer achievable by

continuing this war. and putin can end this war and he can end it today and he needs to do so free people are not easily conquered. and the ukrainian people are free and they will never give up in their fight to stay free. two weeks ago the united states released another security assistance package which included himars, ammunition, artillery, vehicle maintenance and vehicles the nine countries have pledged over 150 leopard tanks, for example. this group that met today is providing air defense, artillery, regular artillery, rocket artillery, armor, ammunition, and that will be critical to ukraine's ability to continue the fight a broad mix of air defense systems have been promised and they will protect the skies over kyiv and the free cities of ukraine. artillery and armor are going to strengthen ukraine lines and enable their forces to synchronize fire and movement for either offensive or defensive operations long-range fires will challenge russia's ability to command,

control, protect and sustain their forces the ukrainian soldiers wear the blue and yellow of the ukrainian flag but the colors of 50 other nations that met today stand beside ukraine to support the principles of the rules-based international order. a system in place to prevent aggression and uphold the values of liberty and sovereignty that system is what preserves the peace and provides benefits throughout the globe as president biden and secretary austin and many others to include all the leaders of europe have said many times, that we will remain committed for as long as it takes. thank you, and i look forward to your questions >> thank you, gentlemen. first question will go to leeda beldor, associated press >> thank you mr. secretary, you said you spoke with your counterpart. can you give us a sense of the russians' reaction to the call did they suggest to you their defense that this was an accident or intentional or that it never happened? can you just give us a better readout of your call

and general milley, have you spoken to your counterpart or are you intending to do so, and do you believe after what you've seen that this was intentional is this considered an act of war? >> well, thanks for the question, lida i won't speak for minister shoigu, nor will i get into the details of our discussion. i'll just reiterate that the united states will fly and operate wherever international law allows now, we take any potential for escalation very seriously, and that's why i believe it's important to keep the lines of communication open i think it's really key that we're able to pick up the phone and engage each other. and i think that that will help to prevent miscalculation going forward. >> so lida, thanks for the

question he. on the intentionality, don't know i do plan to talk to my counterpart general gerasimov. we have a scheduled call we'll see if that works out. so was it intentional or not don't know yet he we know that the intercept was intentional. we know that the aggressive behavior was intentional we also know it was very unprofessional and very unsafe the actual contact of the fixed wing russian fighter with our uav, the physical contact of those two, not sure yet. that remains to be seen. but i can't -- i can tell you with certainty, though, that we have absolute evidence of the contact and the intercepts, et cetera, and it's very aggressive you heard about the dumping of the fuel and everything else we have video evidence of all that there's no question that that part of it's intentional the actual physical contact of the aircraft that i'm not so sure so we'll have to figure that out. we're not positive of that yet as far as an act of war goes, i'm not going to go there. incidents happen and clearly we do not seek armed

conflict with russia and i believe that at this point we should investigate this incident and move on from there. but we will continue to exercise our rights in international airspace >> let's go to dan lamoth, "washington post." >> gentlemen, thank you for your time today secretary austin, likely presidential candidates have declared that ukraine should not be an american priority. given that the biden administration has promised to support ukraine for as long as it takes, are you concerned that election rhetoric could undermine support for ukraine in congress or with the american people and chairman milley, the mq-9 came down in the black sea where the united states has not had any military vessels for more than a year. is it fair to say the u.s. will not recover this mq-9 and do you have any concerns about what

value it may have to russia either strategically or for propaganda thank you. >> thanks, dan i would -- in terms of the importance of ukraine, first of all, we've seen bipartisan support for providing security assistance to ukraine throughout up to this point i expect that we'll continue to see that going forward we've heard some senior leaders on both sides of the fence say that and so i expect that that will -- we'll continue to enjoy that support but you know, dan, ukraine matters. it matters not just to ukraine or the united states it matters to the world. 's in about the rules-based international order. it's about one country's ability to wake up one day and change the borders of its neighbor and annex its neighbor's sovereign territory.

and as we've seen, countries around the world don't think that's a good idea and that's why you've seen 50 countries not only come to the initial meetings of the ukraine contact group but they continue to come back and they continue to work hard to ensure that ukraine gets everything that it needs to be successful and that will remain our focus going forward. >> so dan, on the recovery piece, we know where it landed in the black sea it's probably about maybe 4,000 or 5,000 feet of water, something like that. any recovery operation is difficult at that depth by anyone that's the first point second is true, we don't have any ships there but we do have a lot of allies and friends in the area we'll work through recovery operations that's u.s. property and we'll leave it at that at this point but it probably broke up probably not a lot to recover frankly. as far as the loss of anything of sensitive intelligence, et cetera, as normal we would take, and we did, take mitigating measures

so we are quite confident that whatever was of value is no longer of value. >> our next question will go to ellie watson, cbs. >> thanks for doing this secretary austin, general milley mentioned the video. we've heard reports there you're working to declassify video of the incident what does that video show and when will that video be released why hasn't it been released yet? and general milley, secretary austin talked about the pattern of behavior. how often is russia conducting these harassing maneuvers, and has it increased in recent weeks? >> and he thanks, ellie. as you know, as you said, we are still going through videos and photographs to ascertain what we can release, what we can provide. but in terms of what the video shows we remain confident in the facts that we have conveyed thus

far. and that will not -- that will not change in terms of what happened and how it happened again, we'll work through as quickly as we can to evaluate videos and if -- we'll let you know when we have something in terms of video or stills that we can provide you. >> in terms of the pattern of behavior, ellie, yes, this is a part of a pattern of behavior. the united states and russian military forces operate in proximity to each other throughout the world we're operating in the middle east, in syria, for example. we have areas up in alaska that routinely either maritime or aerial vessels come in contact in the maritime areas outside of hawaii, for example. but also obviously in europe and particularly in ukraine. so the fact that we operate in proximity to each other is not particularly unusual and we do try to establish deconfliction channels in order to make sure our forces are physically separated and we don't have incidents like this

but there is a pattern of behavior recently where there is a little more aggressive actions being conducted by the russians. we think -- we haven't completed our analysis as to why that's happening. and it wasn't just involving us. there were some incidents earlier with the british and some other nations as well so there's a pattern of behavior going on here and we have to figure out exactly what it is. i think that was one of the fundamental reasons for the secretary to call minister shoigu and one of the fundamental reasons for my call to general gerasimov >> go to nancy yusef, "wall street journal." >> thank you general milley, i was wondering if you could clarify something you said earlier you said the u.s. has a lot of of allies and friends in the region referring to the black sea am i to take from that that the u.s. is prepared to send or request allied ships to go in and survey and possibly recover the drone, or is the expectation that the u.s. does not intend to recover the drone? and then secretary austin, i'd like to go back to some comments you made in brussels you said that bakhmut was largely symbolic

are you concerned that the ukrainian investment in bakhmut potentially takes away resources that could be applied to the spring offensive and risks the outcome of that offensive? thank you. >> if you don't mind, i'll go first. nancy, i -- first of all, let me applaud the valor, the persistence that we've seen from the ukrainian soldiers they have done amazing things in bakhmut. the russians have been working to take bakhmut for some seven months or so now and they haven't been very successful and that's because of the diligence, the commitment, the focus of the ukrainian soldiers. in terms of the significance of bakhmut, i would say -- i would point to the fact that president zelenskyy is fighting this fight and he will make the calls on

what's important and what's not important to his forces and whether he needs to reposition or remain in bakhmut the point that i would make is if he does make a call to reposition at some point in time it doesn't mean that the war is lost it may mean and probably will mean that he is positioning himself to maintain advantage. and so i think that's the real key there. but whether or not he stays there or how long they stay there, that's president zelenskyy's call and not -- you know, not anybody else's and again, our goal is to make sure that we're supporting him in whatever decision -- battlefield decision he's going to make. and by the way, we're generating combat power to a degree that we believe that it will provide them opportunities to change the dynamics on the battlefield at some point going forward whatever point that is whatever they want to do in the future.

i think the platforms, the training, the sustaining, the maintenance we're providing will make a significant difference. and as we work through all of this with our allies and partners in detail today in the meeting, we are on pace. and that's in large measure due to the professionalism of our forces who are conducting the training and equipping but also forces around the -- around europe as the chairman pointed out, there are a number of countries that are conducting training in their countries. they're providing various platforms. and we're really focused on how we're going to sustain those platforms as well. so >> and nancy, on the question of the recovery piece, i wouldn't read too much into what i said we do have allies and friends in the region we don't have any naval surface vessels in the black sea at this time and we'll work up options. but as i said at the outset,

this is probably about 4,000 or 5,000 feet of water and it probably -- don't know for certain yet. it will be days before we have actual facts on the impact and what debris is there probably sank to some significant depths so any recovery operation from a technical standpoint would be very difficult if there is reason to believe that we could recover something we'll work up options for the secretary and the president to consider and we'll move from there. but we do have options and we do have friends and allies in the region >> we have time for one more let's go to kasem. >> thank you very much for your time, gentlemen. i have two questions chairman milley, you were in s syria earlier this month, and that hit a lot of headlines in turkey and eventually the turkish minister of foreign affairs summoned ambassador flake to the ministry to provide an explanation. what was the message behind your

visit, sir and to secretary austin, turkey has requested to buy new f-16s and also modernization kits for its existing fleet and ankara is saying that lack of approval as soon as possible will not only undermine the turkish nation security but also the security of nato so i would like to ask you, assess your insights on this assessment and your thoughts about providing block 70 of f-16s to turkey. thank you. >> turkey's a nato ally, and we have a long-standing strong relationship with turkey and we intend to do everything possible to keep it that way. it's real important to us that we maintain interoperability between our nato allies and so that will always be a focus. it will always be a priority

as you know, typically we don't comment on any pending equipment sales prior to congress being notified so i don't have any comments to make on that particular fms case but again, i would just highlight the fact that turkey remains a he very valuable partner and we'll make sure that we're doing everything we can to continue to strengthen our relationship >> and for my visit it was nothing more than a routine troop visit to determine the task purpose mission, to go out and check on that. see how we're doing. and to assess things like force protection, et cetera. we've got almost 1,000 troops in syria and they are at risk they are attacked from time to time with various types of munitions by various actors that are in the area of syria so i want to go over and check on them and make sure the mission is validated and come

back and report to the secretary on what it is. with respect to turkey, turkey and the united states have a common interest here and we have had a common interest for years. we've been there for years and the common interest is ensure the enduring defeat of isis isis, the caliphate, was destroyed but the organization, there are still remnants of that organization over there. there are still refugee camps and prison camps that are there that we're helping train folks to help secure it. it's in our errant and it's in turkey's interest. and it's for sure something that i nieeded to do and it's perfectly appropriate for the chairman to go check on how the forces are doing, especially when they're in harm's way >> secretary austin, general milley, thank you very much, gentlemen. this concludes the time we have available today. thank you very much. >> so at least a couple of big headlines out of this pentagon briefing all of it about the russian jet and how it downed a u.s. drone the first piece of information

from the joint chiefs chairman is that probably much of that drone has broken apart and won't be found but it's in four to five thousand feet of water in the black sea. not to say that they're not going to try to recover what they can but they're clearly not worried about any information that the russians might get from it and we also heard for the first time that there has been a discussion by phone from defense secretary austin speaking to his russian counterpart, the minister of defense. we don't know the contents of that phone call but let me bring in nbc's dan de luce, who is with us now. he wasn't mincing any words when he talked about messaging generally. he said we will continue to fly wherever international law allows and it's incumbent upon russian pilots to act in a safe manner what else did you take away from that briefing? >> that's right. i think it was interesting there were two messages really that the defense secretary was conveying, one that you just said, that the u.s. was not

going to back off flying in international airspace, that they weren't going to kind of run away after this incident but also the secretary stayed that it was important to keep the lines of communication open, that he was glad that he had a chance to speak to his counterpart, and there was another key moment where the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general milley, was asked if this was an act of war by the russians and he said i'm not going to go there. he said incidents happen and he said it was vital that they have communication so they avoid any kind of miscalculation or sort of unwanted crisis so it was kind of a firm message but also trying to keep the door open and not allow the situation to escalate beyond where it is >> dan de luce, always good to have you there thank you so much for that i just want to make one more note because we just got something from our folks who are following secretary blinken, who is in addis ababa, ethiopia. he also was asked about this

incident and simply said i can't speak to the motive or intent but i can say very clearly this was a reckless and unsafe action, echoing what we just heard in that briefing, called a hazardous episode. we'll continue to stay on top of that meantime, any minute now president biden will be talking about an issue that directly impacts 66% of all adults in the u.s. who use prescription drugs. is there realistically a way to bring down prices? you're seeing congresswoman dina titus who may be introducing the president, but we're going to go live to las vegas as soon as he starts you're watching "chris jansing reports," only on msnbc. now, there's skyrizi. with skyrizi 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months, after just 2 doses. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine or plan to. ♪♪ ♪ it's my moment so i just gotta say ♪ ♪ nothing is everything ♪

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donald trump's former attorney and fixer michael cohen back before that grand testifying in the case of alleged hush money paid to stormy daniels this is his second time before the grand jury, his 22nd time talking to prosecutors. >> is this your last time, you

think? >> hopefully it's my last time at least for grand jury, that's for sure. >> what are your thoughts as you go in there today? >> i don't know. we'll see what happens when -- the more questions they ask and the end the grand jurors have the opportunity to ask me questions and i'm looking forward to that. >> with me now nbc news correspondent ron allen. ron, you've been following this throughout cohen is looking to be the last witness. they had seven others. trump has said thanks, but no thanks, i won't be coming in what happens now >> there's a surprise witness, stormy daniels who in a tweet says she's thanking her attorney for the amazing work he's done the attorney said at the request of the manhattan district attorney's office we met with them today and stormy has made herself available for further

inquiry if needed. >> she talked to folks within his office, not the grand jury is that clear? >> yes, met with prosecutors doesn't say anything about the grand jury. >> she's willing to cooperate, tally, so maybe she's willing to testify if they want her to? i don't have that in front of me. >> this tweet i'm peeking over here it's a little esoteric it's important to note in new york the grand jury can say there's a witness we want to hear from and subpoena that witness. there was a lot of discussion whether president trump would choose to testify. another thing he could have done is have his lawyers send a letter to the grand jury saying we think you should consider the following evidence and maybe call the following witnesses i see the word witness and this could mean that the grand jury asked to hear from her and the

district attorney's office met with her or maybe this was instigated by the d.a. >> it's not unusual for the grand jury to say we would like to hear from stormy herself? >> particularly not if the target had lawyers who understood they could prompt the grand jury to do that. >> the question everybody wants to know is where this might be leading and the timeline of course. >> we know the grand jury meets monday and thursday. tomorrow could be another big day or this could go on. there's just -- things seem to be aligning in a position where if alvin bragg, the d.a., doesn't present this to the grand jury and they don't indict, you wonder what happens. again, this is all speculation and what a monumental thing it would be if -- >> unprecedented. >> things are different now than they have been for the past seven years.

he's a former president. the d.a.'s office has successfully prosecuted the trump organization for crimes. allen weisselberg is in jail and facing more charges that could keep him in jail longer. they know more about the inner workings of the business having been involved in those two cases. the political environment is different than it was in 2016. this happened in allegedly -- well it happened in four years ago. >> one other thing we know is donald trump said unequivocally, i did nothing wrong. we heard from one of his attorneys. he was on ali melber it was a rambunctious exchange take a listen. >> why was trump hiding and lying about it at the time i'll play that for your response he lied about it we all know that

take a look. >> let's see >> reporter: did you know about the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels? >> no. what else? >> why did michael cohen make that statement >> you'll have to ask michael cohen. >> if that's what you consider a lie, a lie to me is material, under oath in a proceeding. >> i didn't say perjury. i said a lie. >> that's not a lie. >> it's not a lie? >> put the paper down. >> did you know about this no, i don't. >> we don't need that. it's not a lie because it was a confidential settlement. if he acknowledged that, he would be violating the settlement was it the truth of course it was not the truth by him doing that he was abiding by not only his rights by stormy

daniels' blood. >> it seelook at this he says, no, no i didn't know about it he did know about it, didn't he? >> there is a difference, tally. you're the lawyer here i am not there's a difference between saying something under oath and saying something to the media or to anyone else that's not to say if it contradicts what you say under oath it can't get you into trouble. what do you make of that exchange >> statements of the defendant can be used him in certain instances. what i think is happening here is they're rehearsing various defenses in the media maybe to see what works and what sticks some of them are contradictory we saw a snippet of an advice of counsel defense. he told me to organize the

payments this way. we had i didn't really know her and she was extorting me, which is not consistent with having known her and slept with her it will become crystallized once there's a case they'll have some legal defenses about this charge and whether, you know, it makes sense as a felony charge under new york state law. >> so much more to come. that's a big headline today about stormy daniels ron, tally, thank you. that's going to do it for us this hour. join us for chris jansing reports every weekday. our coverage continues with katy tur reports next c ustomizable options chain, easy-to-use tools, and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are. power e*trade's easy-to-use tools

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