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amarillo, texas, where is judge will decide whether to expand a ban on a drug used as medication abortion more than half the women who terminate their pregnancies do itwith this drug it is extremely low risk fewer than half a percent of patients experience complications, which means almost no one. medication abortions are illegal in 13 states, and that does include texas, where the arguments in this landmark case just wrapped a group of doctors who do not support abortion brought this suit they want to go beyond the texas ban and take this off the market nationwide they claim the fda did not evaluate its safety before it was approved in 2000 and argue it should not have been made accessible to women via telehealth during the pandemic

the public found out about today's hearing monday after the judge initially delayed releasing the details. we'll fill you in on why he says he delayed and why others argue his motivation was personal. the hearing was not broadcast, but we have reporters inside the courtroom and who are outside covering the protests. the decision against the fda would be unprecedented, but if the last few years has taught us anything, unprecedented does not mean unlikely. if it happens, the fda would be ordered to revoke approval of a drug against its will for the first time ever. it would also block access to the abortion pill everywhere immediately, even in states like new york and california where abortion is legal. joining me now from amarillo is morgan chesky. also with me is laura gerard

morgan, what happened inside that courtroom >> reporter: we were inside this courtroom for the better part of this morning the arguments wrapping up within the last 30 minutes or so. the big headline, the judge not making a decision today, saying he won't likely do so tomorrow ending this hearing today asking both sides to submit case law in the days and weeks ahead as he ponders this decision that could have national implications from right here in texas. as for how this hearing played out today, we know the plaintiffs, represented in large part by the alliance for hippocratic medicine, that group based in tennessee, which established a presence here in amarillo, they argued for 90 minutes saying that the fda overlooked some safety

proceedings and protocols, also saying they loosened regulations and restrictions by allowing it to be prescribed to telehealth during the pandemic. the government offered on behalf of the fda and spoke for their two hours and that was followed by a 30-minute rebuttal. both parties walked out and neither said anything of serious value. one of the main players in all of this is the judge appointed by then president trump that critics have said is hearing this case as a result of what they're calling judge shopping as for the point that we're here in amarillo, katy, had this lawsuit been filed in dallas, there would have been numerous federal judges that could have heard it by filing it here, there was only one judge that could have heard it and that is a judge appointed by former president trump who said when he was

confirmed by the sfenate, that his days of advocacy were over and he was ready to take on this role as a judge and hold justice to the highest standard. despite that, critics have said they're uncertain about the fate of this being heard because of this specific location meanwhile, plaintiffs have said texas made the most sense because it's centrally located katy >> why amarillo specifically critics argue because the plaintiffs believe they would get a more favorable ruling from this particular judge. laura, i have to ask you about standing this medication has been on the market for 20 years. there have been almost no complications from it. do they have standing to bring this now >> one abortion provider said there are more complications from tylenol or viagra.

>> don't take viagra away from men. >> the question is a huge one for the justice department if you think this judge isn't going to be receptive to your claims on the merits, then you want to say, judge, they don't have grounds to be in court because they haven't been harmed they're an advocacy organization you have to be harmed in a way that a federal court can redress. i imagine we'll get more out of what happened in court i imagine on what the court filings will show is that the justice department was pushing that very hard it remains to be seen whether he was persuaded. >> if the judge rules on the side of the plaintiff and this gets pulled off the market, why would it become a nationwide ban? >> a lot of people are like how in the world could one federal judge do this nationwide that's the way federal jurisdiction works if it's illegal, it's not legal

anywhere if they didn't evaluate safety risks, it's not safe for anyone anywhere the supreme court has never spoken about whether nationwide injunctions are a good idea. >> a lot of judges who blocked donald trump's immigration attempts -- >> exactly we've seen this on both sides. it's very controversial. >> if they rule in favor of the plaintiffs, i imagine it goes to another court. where does it go next? >> it goes swiftly to the fifth circuit of appeals the justice department would be asking them to stay the injunction, put a pause on the inju injunction if the fifth circuit says no, then the case goes to the supreme court. >> laura, thank you so much for helping us understand the legalities morgan chesky, thank you for joining us from texas.

joining me now is university of california davis professor mary ziegler. thank you for being here with us what's your expectation out of today? >> i think based on what we're hearing coming out of the hearing today, the judge seemed sympathetic to the plaintiffs, but aware he would be doing something unprecedented if he calls on the fda to withdraw this drug from the market. he's unsure he has the authority to do that which is a valid concern given it seems the fda has to follow certain protocols from withdrawing a drug. it's not something a judge can just demand. it's going to come down to standing and whether this judge, no matter how unsympathetic he is to the idea of abortion, or what he perceives of the safety to this drug, whether he has the authority to do. >> how could he rule the plaintiffs do have standing?

what's the converse argument >> the plaintiffs are arguing they have interests in the safety of their patients and that this drug is dangerous to their patients and unless the judge acts immediately those patients will be in jeopardy they argue their standing as physicians and the medical profession as a whole is being harmed by the availability of this drug. i mean, if those things sound like a stretch, it's because they are the only reason those arguments might work is because they're before this judge. >> do you have to present evidence of risk here? if you've had this drug on the market for 20 years and as we understand it it only has a half percentage point of women who experience complications and tylenol has more complications, don't you have to present evidence there's a risk here and without that evidence how do you rely on that legally >> yeah, i mean, one of the things that's disturbing is the

evidence that the plaintiffs have isn't very good it's also significant to note it was largely evidence that's been considered by the fda already. it's asking a federal judge who's not an expert in public health to rely on weak evidence to second guess public health authorities. that could set a precedent with respect to any other drugs, anything from covid vaccines to drugs used in gender affirming therapies. >> why would it set a precedent for those drugs? >> it wouldn't directly set a precedent, but it would suggest there are judges to whom you can go and say we don't agree with the way the fda presented this evidence and we have this evidence that isn't very sound and we'll use it to relitigate whether that drug should be on the market you can imagine others who have problems with the fda with other therapies believes the courthouse doors will be open to them. >> there are other cases with

women who say they were denied care because doctors refused to give them an abortion even when their lives were threatened because doctors are nervous about what might hapn to them. is there any reason to believe those cases might find their way to resolution on behalf of women who are trying to seek safe abortions because of their own health >> we're expecting to see more and more of these cases. this was filed by the center of reproductive rights in texas pinpointing weaknesses in abortion exceptions which are very vague sometimes in the case of texas contradictory. there seems to be different exceptions and different bans in texas law that apply at the same time understandably those ambiguities leave texas doctors with their hands tied they feel like if they make the wrong interpretation they can face up to life in prison for performing an abortion the challenge is going to be whether any exception whether

how carefully drawn changes the dynamic because doctors facing that degree of prison time are going to be reluctant to intervene. these suits are important, but the problem is bigger. >> there's legislation being put forward in south carolina is going to make it that, if it's passed, a woman would be eligible for the death penalty if she seeks an abortion mary, thank you very much for joining us. we're going to talk about the economy. the dow is more hthan 300 point. we're looking at a live look at it it's driven by the financial sector down 400 points now. it's dragging large u.s. banks down with it compounding what's been a bad week after the sudden collapse of silicon valley bank and signature bank

joining me now is morgan brennan. morgan, good to see you. how does credit swiss has anything to do with the collapse of silicon valley bank and signature bank >> reporter: directly it does not, but it speaks to a broader picture and that's the fact that we've seen a federal reserve that has been aggressively raising interest rates over the past year at a pace that we haven't seen in many did he indicates and as the monetary conditions have tightened, you're starting to see areas of the market, particularly right now within banks and the financial sector, where some companies that maybe have been riskier or more poorly managed with some investments are now getting swept up in this very big shift in terms of that policy tightening.

credit suisse is a swiss bank. it does a lot of business with american banks the issue there -- even though they've been going on for several years, the latest issues, the fact that its biggest investor will not put anymore money in the bank. now headlines switzerland is in talks to see about talks to stabilize banks. it speaks to the issue that in the banking sector globally we could be on the precipice of what is potentially a systemic issue that trickles and rolls over into the broader economy. >> yesterday we saw a bit of a rebound among regional banks and the concern among them broadly about our financial sector seemed to be stabilizing, leveling off does that all change today credit suisse is not directly

linked to svb and signature bank are we back into this upheaval >> reporter: that's the thing that investors now and the markets are trying to wrap their head around. fed federal reserve officials will be meeting next week about the next move in monetary policy and whether they'll continue to raise rates or not, is whether this is a situation where we could see more pain come to more banks even if these particular banks are not interconnected, they speak to a broader landscape where you've seen this major reversal in financial conditions and the concern here and why this matters to main street it's not just a wall street story. the ripple effects are it causes other banks to go out and increase the cost of lending and

the cost of capital. it makes the industry more expensive to main street and puts pressures on businesses and the consumers. >> and could make banks rethink if they want to lend money >> reporter: exactly. we'll going to the university of las vegas where president biden has been discussing his plan to lower prescription drug costs. he's saying the republican party is not your grandfather's republican party anymore. >> maga republicans put that at risk nearly 40 million americans would be in danger of losing coverage completely. we're making health care more affordable last year i proposed the inflation reduction act which i could -- [ applause ] we got a lot of things done

bipartisanly there was not any support from the other team as well seniors on medicare get tetanus, whooping cough and shingles, they get them for free now they used to average $100 per shot the new data released today shows if our plan had been in place in 2021 3.4 million seniors would have saved an average of $70 you know, america spends more on prescription drugs than any advanced nation on earth, more than any advanced nation on earth. you name a drug you have to take and i could take you to france and get it a hell of a lot cheaper, canada, england, throughout europe. it's not fair. after decades of trying to take on big pharma we finally won now instead of paying whatever the drug company wants to charge you, medicare will be able to

negotiate prices medicare provides -- [ applause ] we'll drive down prices because we give medicare the power -- the same power the department of veterans affairs has they can negotiate whatever they're pay for drugs they're prescribing to the military. i know many of you are health care professionals you understand this better than anybody else for example, insulin was invented 100 years ago the guy who invented it decided not to patent it because he wanted it to be available. it only cost $10 a vial to make. you count everything, you get -- >> he's not wrong about that i lived overseas the cost of prescriptions was a lot cheaper when you were not getting them here in the united states he's set to announce fines on drug makers for raising drug prices faster than inflation for

medicare recipients. we're going to keep an ear on this, but we move on. russia is rushing to recover the debris of a u.s. drone that it downed what russian officials say they want from it plus, republican rift. the party's rising star is driving a ukrainian-sized wedge into the republican party. what gop senators are saying to criticize ron desantis donald trump's former lawyer, michael cohen, is back in court right now while donald trump's current lawyer is arguing his case on msnbc. ari melber joins us. we're back in 60 seconds

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>> what did you say? >> i said his lawyer advised him to pay as legal services. >> the money went to daniels. >> his lawyer sent him an invoice for legal services that's the evidence in this case he didn't lie. >> that was one of donald trump's lawyers on ari melber's shows saying that trump wasn't lying about the payment was for. michael cohen says it was a hush money payment to storming daniels before the election. today he's back before a grand jury in manhattan. michael cohen is testifying on what he says donald trump knew and when he knew it. nbc news vaughn hillyard is with us from west palm beach close to mar-a-lago we got a bit of news michael cohen and his lawyer lanny davis will be making a statement about this and, two, stormy daniels met with prosecutors. tell us what happened.

>> reporter: michael cohen was and is the key witness in all of this he's currently behind closed doors with that grand jury for day two of testimony the anticipation was that michael cohen was likely the final witness to go before the grand jury before district attorney alvin bragg was trying to present his case to the grand jury that they should vote to issue an indictment of the former president well, there may be another potential witness. that would be stormy daniels herself. we have here in just the last couple minutes statements on twitter from not only stormy daniels, but her attorney. you can see in the attorney's statement he said, at the request of the manhattan d.a.'s office stormy daniels and i met with prosecutors today she responded to questions and has agreed to make herself available as a witness stormy daniels tweeted, thank

you to my amazing attorney for helpingme in our continuing fight for truth and justice. michael cohen, he met with prosecutors for -- in 20 different instances before he went in front of the grand jury. with the impanelment of this grand jury, this is the district attorney's opportunity to bring forward evidence and testimony before these jurors to make his -- essentially a one-sided case donald trump does have until tomorrow to go before the grand jury and make his own case so far his attorneys suggested he's not going to do that. this is his opportunity. if this latest meeting with stormy daniels and her attorney today would suggest -- they intend to bring her before the grand jury as well. >> vaughn, thank you very much joining me now is host of "the beat" ari melber stormy daniels meeting with

prosecutors, what do you make of that >> it shows they continue to gather evidence from fact witnesses and other witnesses about whether or not a crime was committed in new york. >> does this delay a decision on whether to charge? >> probably not. we expect the next day or next week they've talked to everybody they needed to talk to. >> do you ever invite someone to testify if you don't plan on calling them >> that's a great question the short answer is that would usually be your chance to make a case if you were a target, which means you could get indicted we've seen it go the other way in fairness to former president trump and others -- mueller at one point moved very close to indicting someone with a target letter and all the legal experts said that's the step before indictment, but that indictment never came. >> it's important to set expectations here. thank you for that let's go back to last night and

that interview with joe tacopina we played a little off the top let's play more of it now, talking about the word lie >> a lie to me is something material, under oath. >> i didn't say perjury. i said a lie. >> that's not a lie. >> it's not a lie? >> here's why it's not a lie. >> that's not a lie? >> put the paper down. >> did you know about this no, i don't. >> we don't need that. here's why it's not a lie. it was a confidential settlement if he acknowledged that, he would be violating the confidential settlement. was it the truth of course it was not the truth he would be in violation of the agreement. he was abiding by not only his rights, but stormy daniels' rights. >> it seems like we're drawing blood here because you're having a strong reaction. you can say no comment or i'm not getting into it. he says no, i didn't know about

it, but he did, didn't he? >> this was the moment from 2018 where donald trump is on air force one, he's leaning out through that doorway to the press area reporters are asking him about whether he knew about the payment to stormy daniels in 2016, and he says no, i know nothing about it what does it mean to have joe tacopina come on your show and say a lie is not a lie >> i think it means that mm mr. tackopina and former president trump take the investigation seriously. they want to sharpen their defenses and they're preparing for a possible outcome -- we're not reporting this -- but they're acting like there's a possible indictment and trial. joe tacopina made many points that were fair we talked about the possible d.a. vance probe were important.

what you showed was telling. he said it's not a lie then he said, quote, of course it's not the truth that could be difficult for them at trial, not because that proves the case, katy, but if you're dealing with a case that involves misleading the government and your client or potential defendant has been publicly caught misleading people or the government, that adds to the jury's view that maybe they're guilty. >> that's what i wanted to ask him lying to the press is not illegal. him lying on his financial statements is illegal. >> correct. >> him lying in a courtroom is illegal. you're saying that lying in public adds to this evidence that lying was part of a pattern of behavior? >> not just a pattern, but specifically to this incident. this is an incident many people have known about and covered for years. if you say to the jury, yeah, they are saying i lied about x,

but everything else was about y, juries can buy that. you can say someone says i didn't want to get into my child's medical condition, so i didn't tell the full truth people go, okay, i can see that. if x if very thing he was lying about in public and allegedly in private, that could close the circle for a jury. >> so joe tacopina was saying we didn't lie he was saying of course it's not the truth, but don't call it a lie. >> he was doing what lawyers do. he was throwing out other things i think we're watching a skilled trial lawyer look at what might sell a jury. >> is he admitting donald trump knew about the ayment? michael cohen said he knew it was a hush money payment to stormy daniels about the

election we only know donald trump said it was legal fees. did he say he knew it was intended for stormy daniels not to talk about the affair she said she had with him? >> that's a great question at trial. mr. cohen has recordings which i played for the benefit of mr. tacopina -- >> they're murky though. >> they're murky and about the tabloid being involved for the trial, it's going to be quite specific the fall guy here we know is mr. cohen. that part is not a mystery. >> he already fell he already served time. >> the fall guy fell so the fall guy is on the ground they're saying the guy on the ground did all this. that for a jury becomes a question of why. why would someone take a risk and go to prison for the benefit of donald trump? that's a convicted case. why would he do all that to believe part of their defense

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hill on medical leave, a number of republican senators are missing his leadership on ukraine after ron desantis aligned himself with donald trump and arguably russia saying the war in ukraine is a regional conflict not vital to u.s. interests. joining me now is political contributor jake sherman your tag line this morning was missing mcconnell's leadership, explain. >> reporter: mcconnell has been the leader over isolationist who don't want the united states to have a role in the global role we've seen this strain in the republican party emerge, people who want nothing to do with the world around them and people who

think that this is a false choice between being involved in the world and rebuilding at home desantis' comments after spending two days up here this week, that comment landed like a thud i mean, almost every senate republican i've spoken to said that's not where the party should be positioning themselves john thune gave a forceful rebuke today to those comments that desantis made, that it isn't of national security interests. he made the point that what russia is doing will give cues to people around the world, china with taiwan and if russia decides to go into poland. it's not where senate republicans are at all i would say. 95% of them are with joe biden principally, maybe not strategically, that we should be helping the ukrainians. >> does this mean anything for

his candidacy if he's not getting support on foreign policy i know he's not a candidate yet. will it mean anything to be so off the path from the gop in the senator at least >> reporter: it's a distraction. it was a distraction for donald trump when senators spoke out against him which they did perio periodically quite frankly we don't know where this war is going. by the way, we don't know where the future of u.s. aid is going. people are discounting how endangered u.s. aid to the ukrainians is. we've spent $120 billion or so kevin mccarthy recently turned down an invitation from the president of ukraine to visit that country he said we can't give a blank check to that country. when the administration needs more money for ukraine, it's going to be a massive battle on capitol hill, which is why the biden administration and the ukrainians are trying to get

kevin mccarthy to talk to president zelenskyy about what that country needs. >> they've invited him to ukraine. he so far -- has he responded or declined >> reporter: he responded in the media. i don't know that they invited him directly i'm surprised by that because kevin mccarthy does travel the world and has traditionally travelled the world. i wouldn't be surprised to see kevin mccarthy go to ukraine at some point because i don't think this is a sustainable position for the speaker of the house to not go to a combat zone where the united states has spent billions of dollars. if he wants to understand the u.s. commitment to ukraine, it would make sense for him to visit this country. >> jake sherman, thank you very much joining me now is former rnc chairman michael steel michael, it's important to draw a line and say while we're seeing this backlash from gop

senators, it's not necessarily an unpopular position within the republican house and not an unpopular position among republican voters. >> no, it's not. it's going to be required of the senate leadership primarily, certainly when mitch mcconnell returns to the senate, to press the case i think jake's last point is important. kevin mccarthy at some point has to lean in to going to ukraine because you can't sit back and scream about wasting u.s. dollars if you've been extended an invitation to come to the place where those dollars are being spent to see how they're being spent and what they're being spent on the reason he doesn't want to necessarily do that is because it then becomes harder to make the case against additional spending because you see not only how tragic it is, but how much more important it is for the u.s. to continue to lead in

supporting ukraine in this battle against putin he doesn't want to do that fight with trump or with others inside the party. >> we've read it's incumbent upon lawmakers to explain to republican voters why this is so necessary. are you seeing them really attempt that right now are you seeing them doing an adequate job of trying to tell voters on fox news or-- >> fox isn't going to cover that it's not in their wheelhouse to cover that because it's anti-narrative for them. i don't expect fox to do a one-on-one on ukraine for their audience but, you're right, i think they have to step up the game in creating this narrative because there is possibly, i suspect, at least from the folks i talk to

in this area, republicans, that there is support for that. some are scratching their head and wondering when did we become anti-democratic in supporting other democratic countries dealing with a country that's invaded them folks are trying to understand that i think the more the leadership can do to help them in understanding that, not only in terms of the narrative, but the spending, showing and articulating where that money is going, i think the harder it becomes for the kevin mccarthys to sort of stay off that stage and not have to address more directly the support we have for ukraine. >> part of the spending issue that comes up is we're spending all that money, billions of dollars in ukraine, and we have so many problems here at home and so many programs we're not funding. couldn't that money be better spent here that's part of the argument. >> it's a little bit of a red

herring. it's certainly one for republicans to make, particularly given they just spent $8 trillion on tax cuts and the very people that could be making that complaint didn't receive. when you're looking at it as a percentage of the money being spent by the department of defense on this effort, along with other resources coming from other parts of the government that aren't as public, it does not come close to what is already being allocated and spent on other programs, both domestic programs, social programs, et cetera. it's not exactly a one for one that suddenly taking $150 billion that would go to ukraine that's going to translate into money here at home that money is already there. those dollars are being allocated for that if there won't $150 billion going to ukraine, it would go somewhere else inside the dod

complex, the state department, cia. those dollars are specifically allocated for other things those dollars are taken from other projects and other programs and repurposed for the purposes of spending on ukraine. it's not like someone went into the treasury and went to the dollars allocated forsocial programs and said let's take $150 billion for that. >> if you're going to make the argument it's spending too much and we could use that money at home, you have to make the argument to cut dod funding. michael, thank you very much for joining me. outgoing state department spokesperson ned price said a midair collision by a russian fighter jet and u.s. drone was most likely unintentional. >> the only thing worse an than intended conflict is an

unintended conflict. our concern is that these types of encounters, these types of reckless maneuvers on the part of the russians have the potential to lead to something more dangerous they have the potential to put the united states in direct contact with russia. no one wants to see that we certainly don't want to see that >> it is the first known physical conflict between u.s. and russian forces since the war in ukraine began it's fueling an escalating war of words between the countries u.s. and russian officials are telling two different versions of what happened, whether there was even a collision at all and why the drone was there in the first place. joining me now is courty cuby. >> reporter: katy, they should release the video that according to officials shows the russian

jet dropping fuel on the u.s. drone and then there is some video of the collision the reality is we've been asking about it don't know whether it's going to be released. >> can i ask what the physics of dropping fuel at a high altitude and high speed, does that work >> reporter: when it drops, it looks like clouds or smoke almost because of the high altitude what it can do is it can still -- when it hits the drone, if it hits the right place, it could disable it, cloud up the cameras. it just depends. it's a dangerous move that's for sure. >> let's talk about where the drone is right now the russians are trying to get to it. the ru.s. will have a harder tie because they have to get an oak from turkey to get into that area where is it? any chance of it being recovered? >> reporter: it broke up into a bunch of pieces.

keep in mind, as a protocol in a case like this, they would wipe out the software and do what they can to take out some of the hardware what that means is they would glide it down as long as it can. it had no propulsion system. the russian jet took out the propeller. they most likely would try to crash it into the water as fast as it can. it broke up into a lot of pieces the debris field is pretty wide. the russian military has a number of ships in the area. if they wanted to get there, they could get there fast. they wouldn't be able to get there yesterday. the u.s., no ships in the area general milley in the briefing today let in a little bit of what the u.s. -- that the u.s. has allies in the area, but wouldn't tell anymore what he meant by that. you're right, katy, the u.s. getting any kind of ships into

that area would be a long and difficult proposition. >> it's an escalating war or words between the two countries. any communication, any talk to cool things off? >> reporter: it started last night that we know about with the state department calling the russian ambassador, calling him into the state department tfor conversation secretary austin called his russian counterpart today. they spoke on the phone. almost no details of it, about what was discussed we also know general milley is planning, scheduled to talk to his russian counterpart sometime this afternoon what's important to point out here is the last time these two spoke with their russian counterparts was back in october. what you may remember at the time there was a very heightened tension between the u.s. and russia about the potential for russia to use some nuclear capability in ukraine. the believe is a number of u.s. officials called their russian counterparts brought down the

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controller cleared a fedex jet on the saturday runway as a 737 where passengers were taking off from, just 75 feet from disaster >> fe >> fedex is on the go. >> and at boston's logan airport, a lear jet as another plane was taking off and at reagan national, a yet rolled into a departing jet >> aborting take-off, united 2003 >> a lot of close calls. joining me is airline city reporter phil lebeau this meeting that the faa is having trying to stave off disaster and tell people that it's safe, these are really close calls. what sort of changes are they

talking about? >> well, near term, katy, everyone agrees there has to be greater vigilance. i know that's not going to be enough for people who have seen he's incidents here's the secretary of transportation today talking about the need for greater vigilance. >> while the data are clear that u.s. aviation remains an exceptionally safe manner of travel, we take nothing for granted and we are particularly concerned because we have seen an uptick in serious close calls that we must address together. >> okay. so beyond greater vigilance, what can we expect longer term i think we could see a concerted push here, katy, for more technology, whether it's in the cockpit or at airports to assist pilots and to assist air traffic

control operators to have a better vision of what's happening out there. now, this all sounds great but keep in my the ntsb held a meeting about air safety back in 2017 they made a bunch of recommendations about new safety perot c protocols that could be incorporated and a lot of that was never incorporated >> wasn't there a whole generation of air traffic controllers that were about to retire >> sure. and you've seen pilots retired and ramp workers retired in terms of air traffic controllers, the faa plans to hire 1,500 this year and 1,800 this year. there's a lot of institutional knowledge that's gone, katy. it's just not there at that time airports anymore >> fphil lebeau, i'm sure we'll talk about it again. that will do it for me today

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