and sargassum. right now on capitol hill, janet yellen is insisting the nation's banking system is sound after two recent bank collapses. we'll talk to california congressman ro khanna whose district including silicon valley, about what congress could do to prevent something like this from happening again new video this morning that the pentagon says shows a russian fighter jet dumping fuel

on and colliding with a u.s. drone over the black sea we've got exclusive reporting on what's behind the aggressive actions. plus, new details about georgia's investigation into whether former president trump tried to overturn the 2020 election results we're learning the grand jury has heard a new trump phone call and in texas, we could soon get a ruling surrounding a lawsuit that aims to ban an abortion medication that women have been using safely for decades. right now on capitol hill, treasury secretary janet yellen is testifying before lawmakers as concerns are growing that now first republic bank could be the next to fall shares of first republic fell 30% when the markets opened this morning after suffering major losses on wednesday. this after two major banks collapsed over the weekend and swiss regulators overed a lifeline to credit suisse.

she insists americans' deposits are safe >> i can reassure the members of the committee that our banking system is sound and americans can feel confident their deposits will be there when they need them. >> meanwhile on wall street as you can see right now, up about 60 points this morning in trading so far joining us now with more is nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent, garrett haake, monica alba, and from the new york stock exchange, cnbc's contessa brewer. contessa, where do things stand with first republic right now? >> well, right now, you mentioned how much the shares are tdown today we're seeing shares of first republic down 75% for the month of march really over these issues about whether there was a mismatch in assets and liabilities first republic got a credit

downgrade yesterday and then the collapse of course of the silicon valley bank and signature bank over the weekend went in seized by regulators has caused a big question about not only first republic, but other mid sized regional banks where there might be an asset mismatch here here i'm getting into the weeds a bit, but it's really a problem of a high rate of uninsured deposits and loans or bonds that have a long time to maturity and first republic bank had the third highest rate of uninsured deposits people who have their money in here, more than $250,000, covered generally by the fdic. first republic was third after svb and signature bank on top of that, we saw this crisis yesterday with credit suisse when the saudi bank said it would not fund any more of credit suisse. that caused the stock to

plummet. it had an effect on other banks. they went to the swiss national bank which said it would offer a loan, shore that up. so that seems to have calmed the banking market in europe to some degree the real question here is are we going to see as people pore over the balance sheets, other banks that have had mismatched assets and liabilities. >> secretary yellen says deposits in the u.s. are safe. are lawmakers buying it? >> so far, they seem to be this is at a hearing that was meant to be focused on the budget and hear, lawmakers are dividing their attention between budgetary questions and questions about the banks. i think we've heard two lines of questions. the first is that she argued it was a relatively unique set of liquidity problems that took down the silicon valley bank that it's not necessarily representative across the broader financial spectrum of banks in the united states the other thing you're starting

to hear from her trying to respond to under questioning from republicans, you've seen republicans put a political squeeze on her arguing that moves that the fed and administration have taken to fight inflation, something that republicans in particular have argued is the biggest economic concern in this country, put the squeeze on banks like svb and might have contributed to that bank's weakness and perhaps broader weakness in the banking sector it's a political argument that puts the biden administration in a box. do you fight inflation the way they've been doing and potentially weaken these banks or take your foot off the gas and let inflation soar then get hammered by republicans on the other side of that coin. so really just beginning to get underway only about five senators into the questioning here those are the contours of what we're starting to see develop in this hearing >> what's the level of concern inside the white house about the pressure facing the bank sector? >> the white house is closely monitoring all of this, jose

they are monitoring specifically what's happening as we've seen what's reported with credit suisse and first republic bank they want to assure the american people this is a very, very different set of circumstances than we saw in 2008. that has been the consistent message from the president, his economic adviser, saying the guardrails that were put in place after that financial collapse, the better tools that have been implemented in the years since, should help everybody feel a bit better. that said, the president has said he wantes to hold those wh contributed to this mess, his words, accountable we'll see what kind of ramifications could come from the silicon valley bank collapse in particular and also, the president and white house have been clear that no taxpayer money is zbgoing toward any of this at this point there have been questions about whether there would be any bigger bailout to be considered

here that's not the terminology of course the white house is using. they want to be sure that right now, the money that is going to help anybody who was related to silicon valley bank is going directly to the customers there and not the organizations, not the companies, which again is different than what we saw in 2008 so they're trying to make these varied dif rentuations to assure the people there should be confidence there shouldn't be alarm but you continue to have this white house closely watching this and they expect to answer more questions on this in a briefing this afternoon, jose. >> contessa, some are pointing to that rapid raise in interest rates so rapidly and i know it's kind of a contradiction by repeating it, but that had something to do with the failure of these two banks and yet today, contessa, we're seeing that the, in europe, there is a raise in interest rates >> that's right. the european central bank, which

was largely expected to raise rates today, then because of what we saw unfold with theiring banking sector result, there were questions about whether president lagarde would upgrade amid the jitters they still see inflation as the biggest risk to the economy rather than the banks. it was credit suisse and its financial accounting that came under scrutiny not a factor in the larger banking sector to bring that back home, the reason why that matters here is because we're starting to see a lot of questions about what the fed is going to do when it meets next week and whether it will continue to hike rates as it has signalled. we're starting to hear expectations pulling back. maybe not a half a percent hike the way europe did today maybe a quarter percent hike we've seen one analyst call for

a reversal, a cut of a quarter point. most think that's unlikely the criticism is also coming from wall street from certain exp experts who say the fed raised the rates too high too fast. i talked to the ceo of the mortgage bankers association he told me this week in washington, d.c. this blame game is nuts. the blame, he said, falls squarely on the management of the banks who were not managing their balance sheet and on the regulators who had an opportunity of at least a month to see that this was a problem and to try and manage this before it became a crisis. >> interesting monica, meanwhile, nbc news has confirmed the biden administration has demanded tiktok's chinese owners sell their stakes in the app or face a potential ban in the u.s what pushed the white house to make that decision now >> and this is a significant step and one that the white house and treasury department have been discussing for some time they've been evaluating this relationship with tiktok

consistently there of course have been all these conversations about banning it from government devices, but now we are learning this is something the biden administration is saying essentially sell, divest or face a potential ban. so of course this is all still some high stakes hypotheticals none of this is confirmed. no final decision has been made, but it shows the president taking a more aggressive stance toward this chinese-owned company, giving fears over data and what millions of americans are using on this platform how that could potentially be used so the company for its part, tiktok, told nbc news that they don't feel that the option of selling would actually solve some of those national security concerns what they're saying is that they can continue to invest in more third party monitoring or vetting. something they say is already underway, but could boost. it also comes as there's some bipartisan legislature that has been introduced recently that would help the white house go

after some of these platforms more intensely like tiktok that is something we've seen the president loosely say he would support. that he wants to be sure that this is something where they are taking a stance to protect people's data and information. but again, this is a hugely popular app. something so many people use that if this were to be banned in the united states, that would take on other significant implications, but it sounds like this decision wouldn't be made potentially for weeks or months from now, jose >> garrett haake, monica alba and contessa brewer, thank you very much. for more on this, i want to bring in democratic congressman, ro khanna from california. he is a member of the house oversight committee. always a pleasure to see you i thank you for being with us. so silicon valley bank is in your district. what do you see as necessary reforms to make sure a failure like this doesn't occur again? >> jose, i do think the blame here falls on the management and on a lack of regulations

the management should have hedged the long-term bonds they had when they knew that interest rates were going up. they should have diversified their bank accounts and the regulation should apply to large regional banks they lobbied in 2018 to be exempt from some of the dodd frank stress and liquidity tests. that was a mistake we need to strengthen those regulations. >> so would those liquidity tests have made a difference in 2023 >> they would have, jose i mean, if you had had a stress test here, people would have figured out that silicon valley bank didn't have a diverse deposit base that they were too susceptible to having 20, 30 large accounts withdraw their money and they also would have figured out they had too many long-term bonds at a time interest rates were going up that's what stress tests are designed to do so this was particularly bad management and the executives should be held accountable i have called for a claw back of

any bonuses they made or certainly any sales of stock, that that should be taken back, but it also is a call for bette regulation >> senator warren took aim at the fed as having a hand in these failures what's your confidence in powell after this >> i've always respected the independence of the fed. i think secretary yellen and chair powell acted decisively on sunday evening to guarantee deposits and to provide a lending facility for banks to say they would pay the face value of bonds that really stabilized the system i really hope he will consider the banking system and even volcker had a pause in interest rates and he needs to balance inflation with the challenge and risk to the banking system, but you know, i do respect the independence of the fed. >> and so the fact that they acted on sunday evening and this bank started showing major

problems on thursday, but that was you think adequate time? >> i was advocating from friday. i said these days runs move at the speed of twitter the fact that in three days, the united states government took over the bank that they assured people their deposits would be protected and they were doing that before the monday morning markets, actually before the asia markets give the country some credit it actually shows we are capable in moments of crisis of responding i think secretary yellen and chair powell and the chair of the fdic deserve credit. >> tiktok, the biden administration now demanding the chinese owners sell their stakes in the app i want to play what the head of the nsa told mike gallagher last week >> one-third of americans get their news from tiktok every

single day one-sixth of american youth say they're constantly on tiktok that's a loaded gun, congressman. >> what makes tiktok a loaded gun, congressman what's your reaction to the administration's decision? >> first, it's a problem that one-sixth of young people are on any app for six hours or any app. that's a problem but we need to make sure that the chinese communist party doesn't have an influence in suddenly having propaganda on that app and that's why i support the administration's decision to force the sale let an american company buy it given how many young people are on it. >> congressman, always a pleasure i thank you very much for your time >> thank you, jose coming up, new video of what the pentagon says is a russian jet colliding with a u.s. drone. take a look at this and what officials believe was behind this clash and later, it's been six

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but people at the pentagon who initial initially watched it, they thought the behavior, especially of the second pilot, was juvenile the first plane approaches from the rear shoots up. dropping this jet fuel as it does so, but the second plane is late comes way too close. white house, national security spokesman john kirby said in a real military putdown, said it's possible that was just a reckless, incompetent piece of aviation by the pilot. can't get any nastier than that in the military. i think that's the message the u.s. has been trying to send they think there was an intention on the part of russian senior officials to buzz this drone closely to send a message but probably not intention to

actually hit the propeller in a way that downed the drone. russians wanted to get our attention. boy, they did. to have our secretary of defense and milley talking to russian counterparts it's a big deal. >> what is the message you think russia is sending? >> i think as always in these situations, we fly missions very close to russia's border in this case, very close to a conflict zone. we're collecting intelligence. we stay within international air space or waters. it's often the case that the russians will come up and intercept, show that they're watching be intimidating in their own way. these incidents happen over china as well. it's rare that you have something like this. this was a collision that ended

up disabling the craft we're in a test of wills over ukraine. today, we have news that poland will be sending advanced fighter jets to ukraine, adding a new layer of complexity to the situation, but as i say, if russia wanted to get our attention, they did. we've had very high level military to military talks and i think russia just wants to signal in this very tense phase of the war, take us seriously. don't, you know, we're ready to push back. and the u.s. by continuing to fly is giving a similar message. >> david ignatius, i thank you so very much joining us now from ukraine is nbc's erin mcloughlin. good morning to you, actually, afternoon. as ukrainian forces continue to face casualties, you traveled to

a hospital where soldiers are being treated? >> reporter: that's right, jose. this is by all accounts one of if not the bloodiest moments of this war with the battle raging 100 miles away in a civilian hospitals, they're treating casualties from the battle feed. take a listen. the toll on ukrainian forces is reflected in the growing casualty count at this hospital more than 100 miles away dr. lexi shows us a table full of shrapnel extracted from the bodies of wounded ukrainian fighters >> bullet. >> oh, wow this patient was very lucky, he says when the war broke out, 38-year-old vasil left his construction company and family in kyiv to fight he was wounded three days ago.

the russians are just going and going. there are too many of them, he says for one of our guys, there are ten or 12 of them. how do you fight back? we prevail because we're defending our land, he says. we have no other choice but to kill them. and the battle for bakhmut is raging as ukrainian leadership doubled down, adamant they continue with the defense of that ukrainian city. they say in order to exhaust the elite russian forces currently fighting in the city streets they say that those forces need to be exhausted ahead of a planned counteroffensive that ukraine is planning for this spring this as we're hearing from the polish president say they're now going to be sending four fighter jets to ukraine. the first nato country to make

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daniels, spoke to prosecutors in new york in a separate case. i understand you got some reaction from trump's team >> right this reaction comes as we are expecting both of these cases here in new york and fulton counties to be come to be a head here and the decision to go before grand juries on whether to indict the former president or not. exactly what day those votes by the grand juries were to take place is not clear but we have new reaction here from the head counsel for donald trump essentially. he's the one coordinating the lawyering efforts for donald trump in each of these various cases here around the country. and he writes in part quote woke radical das in new york and atlanta are allowing crime to run rampant while they choose to be obsessed with prosecutoring donald trump they continue to we-- of course these potential criminal

proceedings, these charges against donald trump, are running perpendicular to his 2024 presidential run. when you see where he is in polling right now, you see him well atop compared to the rest of this potential republican field. but when you're looking here from fulton county, we already know that the district attorney has the, has the report from the special grand jury that it already identified 18 different targets as part of her investigation and it's just a matter of when she were to present to the new grand jury here, the potential cases of individuals who she would want to seek indictments of and then in new york in the manhattan district attorney's office, we now know that michael cohen, the key witness, he has finished his system before the grand jury and now we know stormy daniels has met with prosecutors. the outstanding question there is whether she were to go before the grand jury or whether the district attorney there feels like he's got a solid enough

case and chooses to go to the grand jury to seek the indictments now. so this honestly, jose, could be a matter of hours, days, weeks or you could never seek an indictment from either of those two jurisdictions. >> what's the significance of the grand jury hearing this phone call between donald trump and the speaker and the fulton county investigation? >> the significance there is that this is the second direct tie between trump and efforts to solicit election interference and pressure officials you know, the first call that became very famous was his call to secretary of state brad raffensperger asking him to find 11,870 votes, which happened to be one more than the margin by which biden won. i think that standing alone, although it feels like a smoking gun, there's sort of a defense that this was a good faith effort to look for election fraud because he really believed it

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it could be the largest and longest disruption of education in the second largest school district school wills likely close for three days starting next tuesday. the strike comes as the workers union says it reached an impasse in negotiations with the district over wage increases, more full-time work and more staffing for student services. and in texas, we are expecting at any moment a decision in a pivotal abortion pill case. with nbc reporting a u.s. district judge there seemed sympathetic to argumenting challenging the medication use in the u.s. for over two decades. joining us now, dasha burns and wendy davis at planned parenthood what arguments did we hear yesterday and when do we expect an update on this case >> reporter: well, jose, let me be clear i might be standing in the small town of amarillo, texas, but

what happens here could have an impact in every state. including in those states that have robust abortion protections in place so we were in the courtroom yesterday for the first public hearings in this high stakes case where the plaintiffs are arguing, the plaintiffs are a group of anti-abortion medical organizations and doctors and they argue that the fda didn't adequately evaluate the safety of the drug, which is one of the two drugs used in medication abortion, which is the most common abortion method in the united states, used for more than 50% of pregnancy terminations so they're arguing that fda didn't adequately evaluate it. they also argue that the fda loosened regulations making the drug more dangerous when they allowed prescribers to prescribe the drug via telemedicine during

the pandemic the lawyers yesterday said this case has no merit. they said they don't have standing in this case and said if they ruled in favor, it would amount to unprecedented action that would cause significant public harm. this is a drug that's been on the market for more than two decades. according to fda data, more than 5 million women have used the drug to terminate pregnancies and also used in cases of m miscarriage as well. only 28 deaths have been associated with the drug the focus of yesterday's hearing was a preliminary injunction basically asking the judge to pull the drug off of the market while the case continues in court. so that is the ruling, the decision we are waiting for. we don't know when that will come it could be in the next couple of days, in the coming weeks, but one thing that's for certain that we've been hearing from basically all parties here, is that this case is significant and could be one of the most

consequential decisions when it comes to abortion since roe v. wade was overturned. >> wendy, speaking yesterday with dr. patel, she says doctors are feeling scared to discuss abortion with patients and each other. what are you hearing about how the outcome of this case could impact folks in texas? >> this is going to have an impact not just in texas, but all over the country because this would remove the most commonly performed method of abortion in the country. more than 50% of people who select an abortion use medication abortion as the means for doing so guided by doctors. in texas, of course, abortion is banned so this medication has not been legally used here. none of the health centers here are providing this medication to

their patients but the long-term impacts of it will be severe not only for people who are leaving texas to seek that care elsewhere, but even in states where abortion has been sanctioned there, too, they will be prohibited from using this method of abortion medication. and it's really part and parcel of an attempt in texas to use the court system, a conservative court system, to try to impose the anti-abortion zell lot's mission across the country the idea that the supreme court talked about in the dobbs decision, that this would just become a state by state decision, is certainly not what we're seeing in practice with groups like those suing here trying to do everything they can to use the conservative court

system in a way that would impact states across the country. >> i'm just wondering, wendy, if is that pill is not sold or prescribed in texas, what's the legal standing of this group's position in texas? >> you know, it's a really good question and because it's a federal court, i think they're trying to make the argument that they should be able to appear there regardless of where the patients are that are currently receiving the medication i do want to stress as dasha said, that this is a method that has been used safely for more than 20 years. the fda has done a review of this medication after its initial allowance. its initial approval there simply is absolutely no precedent for intervening in an

fda approved drug and removing access to that drug through a court. and it is part and parcel, of course, of a strategy that we're seeing here again by antiabortion extremists who are using every method they possibly can to remove access to abortion and of course, accomplish their underlying goal, which is to control women across this country. no matter where they live. >> i thank you very much for being with us. coming up, six months ago today, mahsa amini died days after being arrested in iran by the government since then, thousands have protested in her name and they continue to do so. up next, a look at where the iranian people stand today u'yore watching jose diaz-balart reports.

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learn how abbvie could help you save. now to some headlines from beyond our borders in france, president macron by passed parliament and used special powers to push through his plan to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64 without a vote france has seen garbage piling up on the streets of paris as workers protested the move overnight, north korea launched a suspected intercontinental historic first summit in 12 years this latest launch is north korea's third weapons test this week it comes as the u.s. and south korea are conducting their largest military exercises in five years

today, protesters again took to the streets in tel aviv demonstrating against a co controversial law by netanyahu to weaken the supreme court. netanyahu leads israel's most far right government in history and is on trial for corruption, which he denies. he resisted calls to stop his reforms. in peru, six people are dead after a cyclone swept through bringing heavy rain that caused mudslides earlier this week. turning to iran where today marks six months since the death of ameena, the woman who died three days after being arrested for what authorities said was a violation of the country's strictly enforced dress code we have the historic anti-government protest sparked in response to her death

>> reporter: following ameena's funeral, women ripped off their head scarves in protest. within a week, it became clear this was the most serious challenge to face the islamic republic since its inception in 1979 the government's reaction was nothing short of brutal. security forces have fired live rounds at unarmed protesters skirmishes became daily events across iran. with us is the co-anchor of pbs news hour. what's the situation on the ground today >> look, the protests have largely subsided in iran they are nowhere near on that scale that we were seeing towards the end of last year you have small pockets of protests by defiant young people some people from their windows at 9:00 in the evening chant

anti-regime slogans. that violence that the government cracked down on the people with has an affect. there was a terrible report from amnesty international that children were tortured to put them off coming into the street. i can tell you, there's a collective sense of melo meloncy there is this unpredictability as to what the future holds is also very, very hurtful to the people in iran to compound that with an economy that's coming apart and the country being totally isolated, it's a very, very difficult situation for people in iran they are wondering if this situation continues, when is the next flare-up going to be? the government hasn't done anything to address what sparked these protests in fact, they are clamping down harder on that they are threatening to arrest

women via surveillance cameras rather than physically on the street >> that's just -- that is a great way to define it just this morning, amnesty international published a report based on seven cases involving children it documented through individuals and their families as well as testimonies from 19 eyewitnesses they say, quote, iran's intelligence and security forces have been committing act torture, k4rincluding, beatingsn rape to quell their involvement in nationwide protests nbc news reached out to iran's government for comment they didn't receive any response we have not confirmed this reporting. it's been six months today the regime is still ongoing, continuing to crack down

this is such -- is it a turning point? is it, as i like to think, is it a moment or a movement >> it's so hard to tell, especially in iran when it's very difficult to get credible and verified information on the ground to ali's point, i think unpredictability seems to be reigning over the population those horrific details from the amnesty international report confirm what a lot of people have suspected was the extent of the brutality by the regime in terms of how badly they cracked down on these protesters we knew about the mass arrests they have admitted to pardoning some 20,000 protesters, which is the first time they have sort of acknowledged the scale of the protests they were facing. we have heard about at least 500 or so killed over the course of those protests but i also think it's worth noting that when these protests first began, there were few who believed they would go on as long as they did

even the sporadic protests that continue today but there was something different about these protests they were being led by women and girls. we have seen the regime crack down over time, become more brutal over time as many suspected that they would. but still, the international community continues to repeat those three words. women, life, freedom you lahear it from the women we are able to speak with you see it on the lips of celebrities who are cutting their hair in solidarity with many of the women. just at the academy awards, you had women with it on their dress. there's a pressure from the outside, including the united states there's been sanctions imposed on some officials. the future is uncertain for those women and girls who just want their rights. >> thank you both so very much for being with us this morning that wraps up the hour for me

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