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>> extremely convenient, but they take the thinking out of it they take the brain effort out of it. and it may be doing us a disservice in the long run >> reporter: losing navigational skills can lead to cognitive decline, even dementia, but reading a map stimulating the hippocampus. >> by turning off the gps and using a map instead to navigate through unfamiliar routes, we're training that part of the brain. and it's less likely to decline. >> reporter: people who participate in orr yen tiering suggest that by turning on gps and instead lying oon a map cou beneficial to your aging brain >> one of the first symptoms associated with alzheimer's disease is a loss of our ability to get from point a to point b this is why this may be a beneficial way to stave off cognitive decline because it taps right into that thing that they're losing first
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>> reporter: you don't have to get lost in the desert to get the brain benefits experts suggest changing your usual route, turning off the gps on routine trips, and getting lost on purpose for the challenge of finding your way. for kathy, who has a family history of dementia, her good old map and compass could be the key to keeping her brain sharp dr. john torrez, nbc news, cade creek, arizona >> good for her. we have a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports. let's get right to it. at this hour, surf, sand, and seaweed? we'll tell you about an enormous and frankly kind of scary looking blob that's threatening to ruin spring break on south florida beaches. school officials in los angeles scrambling to prevent a three-day strike, which would shut down school for hundreds of thousands of students. straight ahead, where those
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talks stand right now. the clock is ticking for tiktok the biden administration threatening a ban unless the owners give in to president biden's demands. we'll tell you exactly what he wants. and we're watching wall street and washington. treasury secretary janet yellen tried to assure lawmakers and americans that your money is safe, despite recent bank collapses. our reporters are here covering all of the latest developments but we begin with that wild ride on wall street. cnbc's senior washington correspondent amy jaifrs is with us treasury secretary yellen was on capitol hill she was saying, it's going to be okay nobody should panic. the u.s. banking system is sound. what should the take away be for what we heard and where we are right now? >> well, look, the way to prevent bank panic is to pump in a lot of money into the banks that are ailing, that seem like they might go under.
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that stops those banks and stops the contagion from spreading and then send a message to the markets that you're willing to do it again. no matter what it takes, there's enough money that calms everybody's fears there's going to be a run on deposits and people will leave the money in the bank. there was an old saying back in the depression, if there was a run on your bank and there was a crowd of people panicked in your lobby, you didn't want to bring in the new money to restore the bank's funds in the back door. you want to bring it to the front. let the people see the money coming into the bank because that would calm everybody down that's sort of what the federal government was doing this week and that was the message that janet yellen was sending on the hill today >> a mon jafrs, thank you so much for that. meantime, if you're one of the 100 million americans on tiktok, brace yourself the platform could be banned in the u.s. if the company's chinese owners don't agree to president biden's demands. nbc's monica alba is covering the white house for us monica, this would be a big deal
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to a lot of people i might even know some teenagers who have a little tiktok addiction. why would the white house threaten such a drastic step >> and it's one that has been discussed for a couple of months now, chris, as lawmakers and the biden administration try to figure out how to deal with this, specifically because they say of the national security risks that this presents given the fact that tiktok is owned by chinese-owned company bytedance, they say that there's a risk here to anyone who signs up for the platform in terms of their data being stolen, in terms of the potential for their phone to be hacked and ultimately this is a bigger question about how we as a society want to share that information and where that information could go and how it could be used. so, ultimately, we learned, according to a source close to tiktok, that this is something the biden administration has essentially put forth as a possibility, but that no final order has been made. so, the company itself is saying that they actually believe that
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selling or divesting wouldn't change the national security concerns, and they say what needs to be stepped up is this third party monitoring and vetting, which they say already happens to some degree but could certainly be boosted and the backdrop to all of this is really lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have introduced bipartisan legislation that would help the white house go after some tech platforms like tiktok more aggressively so, that's ultimately what the white house and the president decide to do if that legislation goes forward, it could be an easier path. but we're still talking about a high stakes hypothetical, chris, that could take weeks or months until we really know what happens. but the implications are, like you said, massive. and then there's the major question of enforcement if this does happen. and if there is a nationwide ban, how would that all work there's still a lot of details to be ironed out here. >> monica alba, thank you for that meantime, workers at the second largest school district in the country planning to go on a massive strike, which would
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likely shut down public schools in l.a. next week. nigh yell la charles is in los angeles for us so, what is this all about, and what are the chances it does disrupt classes? >> reporter: well, chris, about a half a million students stand to be affected by this the proposed strike proposed for next week, three days, by the education workers union here in los angeles. that includes people like the cafeteria workers, school bus drivers, and janitors that work at the school. the low-wage earners on average the union says they make about $25,000 a year. they're asking for a 30% pay increase as well as benefits and also more staffing and i just spoke to the superintendent here in los angeles. says, in response, they have offered to meet them halfway on that salary increase and provide benefits to part-time employees. but still negotiations at a standstill when i've spoken to the union, they said they're not willing to budge on that salary demand they're making and the teacher's unions across
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the country say what's happening here in los angeles reflects the sentiments of teachers and staff across the country they say since the pandemic, their jobs have gotten harder, having to respond to the learning loss and also the mental health issues that have stemmed from this pandemic and they say because of this national teacher shortage, their demands have grown so, they say these demands are in response to that and also their need for a livable wage. now, the superintendent did tell me here in los angeles that he doesunderstand and expect that the decision he makes here will definitely have set a precedent for other school districts across the country chris? >> thank you for that. meantime, on the other end of the country, there is a 5,000-mile-wide blob of seaweed headed for the florida shores, and it's threatening to put a big damper on spring break season sam brock is in hallover beach,
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florida. sam, what can you tell us about this mess? >> reporter: the seaweed is not all bad. it soaks up co2. it provides shelter to marine life there's vessels in this that have their that keeps the seaweed buoyant. the problem is, you don't want to see this on vacation. this is typical for miami-dade for the amount of seaweed. it's not the spring break time frame. that's the problem it's what this could look like in a matter of weeks experts say by the end of march and early april and for the duration of several months, there could be feet of seaweed all up and down florida shores from miami beach all the way to palm beach county. at that point, you get the gulf stream that moves most of it offstream. as far as how officials are preparing for this, they're out early in the morning cleaning up the seaweed. they don't want it to sit there. within 48 hours or so, it starts to rot if you look at mexico, it's hard to believe how much seaweed has
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stacked up there and it's ruined vacations. that would be the concern elsewhere for all these popular beaches. once that seaweed is sitting on the sand for 48 hours, it starts to rot there's not harmful effects as you would think of with the red tide it's not going to kill the fish or affect your food, but it does have a really bad smell. and it's a disincentive for folks to spend time at the beach. so, officials are trying to get out in front of this miami spent 40 million plus dollars just a couple years ago when it was really bad right now all signs are this could be highly disruptive over the course of the summer in miami-dade, sam brock, nbc news the highest level of the kremlin approved these aggressive actions over an american drone over the black sea. so, what was russia's end game plus six months after mahsa amini's death, where iran's
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protest movement goes from here. and a mississippi sheriff originally said there was no reason to suspect foul play after a black man's remains were found scattered in a wooded area how the sheriff is changing his tune after months of outrage you're watching kris jansing reports only on msnbc. ♪ ♪ get directv with a two year price guarantee. ooh, the chewy app. clumping litter. salmon paté? we have enough to splurge on catnip toys! i feel so accomplished. pet me please! great prices. happy pets. chewy. age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv
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so, keir, you know the reporting that russian leadership approved those aggressive actions of jets can you give us some insight into what putin or his officials may have been trying to accomplish here? >> you know, chris, that reporting doesn't surprise me. i think this is recognizable kremlin behavior, trolling, if you like, america, not just rhetorically but with actual planes i think it's recognizable in the sense that the hugs risks that are taken in that dramatic video when the plane gets so close to that drone and then you can see, i think, from that video how determined or you can say desperate the russians are, the kremlin is, to try to stop these surveillance drones in that area. taking a risk by trying the drop fuel onto the drone in order to dekaps tate it -- inkcapacitate it and the risk that we can see now -- the video pretty much
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demonstrates this -- there's that contact, very, very dangerous, the first contact between the u.s. and russian military that we know of since the beginning of the war in ukraine. i think what this really does too, chris, is pull back the curtain on how the russian and american military are eye bawl to eyeball in this conflict zone and how dangerous that is. >> mark, ahead of the joint chiefs, mark milley said this is a pattern of aggressive behavior on russia's part do you see a broader strategy here by vladimir putin, his generals could they be testing the u.s. to see how far they could push that envelope. >> sure. first of all, they don't like us flying in that area. while that is international airspace and we have every right to conduct surveillance and reason distance missions, they believe it's a military zone there is dispute there but i think one of the things in
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unpacking this, it's interesting. the russians -- if that reporting is true -- has certainly used provocative and aggressive measures. but i think there's also a notion that the pilot of that russian aircraft put himself at risk as well this was not some kind of special tactics. dumping that fuel, you know, to incapacitate the sensors on the drone is one thing but clipping the aircraft is pretty serious and it's actually more dangerous. we lost a $50 million unmanned aircraft they actually almost lost a more advanced fighter jet i think as you take a look at how the russian military has performed, i'm not surprised this ended the way it did. one final point, kudos to the pentagon for releasing the footage and the intelligence community as well for putting forth a notion that aggressive moves were approved in moscow. but i don't think they actually intended to bring the drone down >> let me ask you a bigger picture about the intel
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community because at the end of the day, this is always about trying to get inside vladimir putin's head, which is probably a very scary place to be but it's been notoriously difficult, right is putin's circle so tight how difficult is it for our intel services, the intel services of our allies, to get reliable information from inside the kremlin? >> sure. that's why it's called a hard target it's a very close circle of advisers you know, the intelligence service is not only the united states but also of all the nato countries working quite hard at this i think one of the things we have seen is some pretty dramatic successes we in essence stole the war plans before the war we were able to warn our allies, warn the ukrainians on where the invasion was coming. but you're right in autocratic countries, it's not easy to penetrate that inner circle these are a small number of advisers we do have a large alliance trying to do so, but vladimir putin is a dictator. and quite often dig today to rs are not going to do things in
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the best interest of their countries. >> thank you both, guys, appreciate it. it was the death that sparked a movement with hundreds of people killed and thousands arrested for protesting the iranian regime what's next, six months after mahsa amini's death? >> and here at home,a major health crisis worse than experts thought. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc my husband and i have never been more active. shingles doesn't care. i go to spin classes with my coworkers.
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shot, we're just up from -- where hundreds of people are out, have gathered they are burning tires, flying flags. this issue for president emmanuel macron is not new this has been on his agenda since the first term he's a finance guy, chris, and basically he has said that he has crunched the numbers and that mathematically france is not able to support future generations. so, he held off in his first term he held off over covid this is his second term, and the main sticking point of this bill that has been on the table is that it would raise the retirement age from 62 to 64 now, macron had two problems the first is he doesn't have the political majority in his second term and the second, chris, is that it is deeply unpopular across the country. according to the most recent french polls, 70% -- that is a huge number -- not only don't support this bill, but they do support national strike. so, in the last couple of weeks, chris, unions have been striking that includes schools, police.
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they have done eight national strikes. i can tell you just being in the country the last 24 hours, that means no metro, no public transportation and walking around paris, there are huge piles of garbage, an estimated 9,000 tons of garbage are currently on the streets of paris. now, as of today, president macron basically had two choices, chris the first is he can trigger this constitutional tool, which would allow his prime minister to basically push through this bill without getting the votes. the second was to dissolve the government and he went with the first and if you read the french papers tonight, they say that his party, all of his allies, worked the phones all morning trying to whip the vote. they did not do it as far as what happens next, we are seeing huge protests, chris. as you said, we will continue to see that the unions are meeting tonight to figure out how they can continue to work -- let their workers off without pay so they can continue the strikes and politically, the opposition now has 24 hours to come up with a no confidence vote if that hits the table, if that
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goes through, that could be the end of both the prime minister and of president emmanuel macron, chris. >> molly hunter, thank you so much we appreciate you getting that shot up and getting to us with that late report today marks six months since the death of 22-year-old mahsa amini in iran, who died while in custody of the so-called morality police, after being arrested for what they said was improperly wearing her hijab it sparked the largest protest in iran in years, now turning into a movement calling for regime change. ali arouzi joins me now. ali, you know that country well. you've lived there for a long time how impactful have these last six months of protests been in iran >> well, chris, it's fundamentally changed the country. the cornerstone of islamic republic was the hijab that's now gone. but the protests have largely
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subsided because of the brutal tactics by the regime. in iran there's a collective sense of melancholy and unpredictability and deep, deep resentment towards the government let's have a look at how the last six months panned out six months ago today, 22-year-old mahsa amini was arrested by iran's feared morality police. her alleged crime, violating the country's strict dress code. she died days later in the hospital her family says she had been beaten police deny this for many iranians, this was a tipping point. amini's death set into motion a chain of extraordinary events that have brought the islamic republic to it's core. iranian women began to show their solidarity by ripping off their head scarves in protest. within a week, it became clear this was the most serious challenge to face the islamic republic since its inception in 1979
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for four decades, the theocratic regime has ruthlessly enforced strict rules on iran's population with the hijab mandatory for iranian women becoming a cornerstone of the regime's hold over the people. making scenes like this one all the more astonishing women defiantly taking off thei head scarves in public crowds of young men and even school children have taken part, an unprecedented display of unity. the government's reaction was not short of brutal, firing live rounds at protesters at least 522 people have been killed, according to the u.s. based human rights group hrana, including 70 minors. more than 20,000 arrests have been made.
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100 of those on charges that can lead to a death sentence at least four have been executed so far these tactics have, in some way, paid off for now the protests have largely subsided, but already it's clear that there's been a fundamental cultural shift in iran many women across the country refuse to wear the hijab, something that would have unthinkable only seven months ago. a crisis after thousands of schools reported symptoms of being poisoned across iran, sparking unease and anger amongst an already exhausted population authorities in iran are trying to restore a semblance of normality. for most iranians, their country has turned into a dystopia >> and chris, just to give you an idea of the tactics employed by the regime -- push lished a
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report detailing horrific acts of torture and violence against children they mentioned beatings, floggings, electrocution, rape, and other sexual violence against children as young as 12. so, that's one of the reasons these protests have largely subsided for now >> ali arouzi, thank you so much we appreciate that an alarming new report out today with devastating findings. the maternal mortality rate in this country has climbed dramatically the rate of americans dying while giving birth or in the weeks after increased by nearly 40% in 2021. and this burden is disproportionately bourn by communities of color, with the mortality rate for black women 2.6 times the rate for white women. university of virginia associate professor of anesthesiology and critical care medicine, dr. ebony hilton it's always good to see you. look, the u.s. already had one of the highest maternal
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mortality rates anywhere, certainly in developed countries. how significant do you see this jump in maternal mortality rates? >> right it should be something that alarms all of us, right? typically women are young and healthy when they become pregnant however, particularly when we're talking about black women, this is not a new phenomenon. we have the same health disparities toward maternal outcomes that we had pre-civil war. this is a problem america has turned a blind eye toward for generations. and we have to start thinking about not only the social determinants of health but the political determinants of health that influence whether or not a child grows up to see their mother that can take care of them >> let's talk about who's most at risk. this study found -- this is one of the most shocking things the in a really disturbing study nearly 70 black women died for every 100,000 live births. this jump, for black women specifically -- some people are tying perhaps to covid, the fact
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that larger women of black women did not get vaccinated but overall is a picture that we have seen for a long time about racial disparities and sexual disparities in health care in the united states? >> right i think covid highlights some of the causes of why black women are more likely to die for sure. we can think about the things that lead to worse outcomes with covid. if you have comorbidities. look at jackson, mississippi, and flint, michigan, both in north and south, have the issue with water pollution we can't talk about the impact of covid without talking about employment status. and what we know is that despite the economy booming, black people have 2.5 times higher unemployment rates what does that mean in terms of housing, for instance? if you're a black mother in georgia, you're 2.5 times more likely to be evicted than if you're a white mother. and it's not just -- it's also insurance. if you look at the fact that 56% of all black americans live in
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the deep south, then we have to talk about the fact that south carolina, north carolina, tennessee, georgia, arkansas, alabama, texas have refused to expand medicaid. and what does that mean? when you're no longer getting that insurance or that access to health care that you desperately need if you're a mother growing a child within you and it's not only the insurance that's a problem you can look at south carolina, where i'm from out of the 46 counties, eight counties have a single hospital. if you're looking at totality of obgyns, 14 of those counties don't have a single ob/gyn available. what does that do for a woman when the help is simply not there? >> the question is, what do we do about it? we've been doing this year after year after year, the same story, mortality rates go up. many of the states you mentioned are republican-led states who don't believe in the programs you talked about
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where does that leaf all of these black women? >> unfortunately, dead and i think we have to start saying that because america has turned a blind eye to when we see women die time and time again. and what does it mean when we die? we are the staples of our community. we are the staples of our home and unfortunately, one in every nine black children will enter into foster care before they'r 18 years old this is something we is are to tackle on many fronts. we have to expand medicaid and expand access to medicare and medical procedures for black women, prenatal care, right? we have to train up more doctors and physicians we cannot say we can just put other things in place to replace physicians if we have worse outcomes, we need higher trained persons in order to take care of them and a holistic approach. we need mid wives. we need doualas. we need other persons to go within the community to help support black women. and we need to look at the community level.
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what is happening on the capillary level of communities that increase our risk of environmental pollutions, that increase our risk of unemployment, that increase our risk of eviction, that increase that stress load that a mother is sensing and that cortisol response of fight and flight that we are supposed to get away from danger? it's a constant threat to our life every day so, when a mother feels her heart rate increase and feels her bounding of her blood pressure, that's also impacting what's happening to a developing fetus. and that's why one in every 90 babies, black babies, can expect to die before their first birthday these are the numbers that actually matter. and if america cares, america will address those exact problems >> dr. ebony hilton, thank you so much. really appreciate you coming on the show with all of that incredible but depressing and need-action information. thank you. meanwhile, in yet another sign of how women are still facing an uphill battle for equal treatment, let's move from health care to corporate america
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because there's a new "usa today" analysis. it finds that women are outnumbered 5 to 1 in senior leadership roles in the country's publicly traded company. men make up 83% of the 533 named executive officers in s&p executive corporations for women of color, that disparity is even worse. five times worse to be exact women of color are outnumbered by men 26 to 1 in s&p c suites and we have a disturbing story out of mississippi, where a black man's remains were found after he had warned his family he was being chased by white men. how a sheriff, who initially said there was no reason to suspect foul play, is saying something different now. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc ♪breeze driftin' on by...♪ ♪...you know how i feel.♪ you don't have to take... [coughing] ...copd sitting down.
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outrage, a mississippi sheriff accused of covering up a brutal hate crime, says he will take another look at the shocking death of a black man rasheem carter's remains were found scattered last fall, after he told his mother he was being chased by white men hurling racial slurs the sheriff initially said there was no reason to suspect foul play but more than four months later, he now tells nbc news that foul play has not been ruled out. can his office be trusted to finish the investigation, or does the department of justice need to intervene? nbc's melissa chan has exclusive new reporting on this story. the reverend al sharpton is the most of msnbc's "politic's nation." he joins us as well. melissa, i know you've spoken with the sheriff now what did he tell you >> the county sheriff said he's still working on the case and there's nothing to hide. but these remarks come marks after rasheem carter's family
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says they've been stonewalled and dismissed. october 2nd, rasheem called his mother in a panic to say he was being chased by white men in trucks, and he texted her names of coworkers to look into should anything happen to him that was the last his family heard of him when his remains were found scattered on someone's private property a month later, the sheriff issued a statement almost immediately saying they didn't suspect foul play the sheriff has ruled out coworkers as suspects, saying their device was pinged 100 miles away on the day rasheem went missing even that route, the sheriff described as kind of a last ditch effort so, the families really left thinking something really sinister has happened, and they're really hoping the justice department steps in. >> what needs to happen here can family, the community, trust local officials to handle this investigation? >> well, i would say that
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there's sufficient reason not to trust it, and i would hope the justice department does come in, as well as any other outside source that could give this family some justice. it would seem to me to be beyond being sane to let people that had told you that there was no foul play before they investigated anything, before they dealt with the fact, when in fact someone was listing over a long period of time, someone had told their mother by phone they were being chased by white men in trucks and there appeared to be law enforcement involved and leaving you a list of people to contact it would seem to me, how could you trust that person to solely do the investigation, when they had all of these concrete reasons to believe that when they said there was no reason to feel foul play, that there was every reason to investigate that
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to its smallest possibility before you would make such an outrageous claim >> you've been involved, reverend, so much in these cases. what does doj look at? what is their criteria for getting involved and do you think this will meet that criteria? >> i think they get involved when there is the possibility of a conspiracy based on race or based on other factors i think they get involved with law enforcement. and i think that if there is a basis that there's a request from family and others that would make the request so they can make the initial inquiry and i think many of the organizations the in mississippi and certainly -- would support that, would support having the justice department make more than a preliminary look into this the critical reason that i think they should get involved is because of the statement by th local sheriff, which is
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prejudicial. because for him to have set the tone that there was already no foul play before there was a serious investigation means the justice department has ever reason to step in to protect local seasons against what could be a biased local prosecutor or local law enforcement. >> and let me ask you about a case we spoke on earlier in virginia seven sheriff's deputies have been charged with murder in the death of irvo otieno his family is holding a press conference right now i want to play a little bit of what irvo's brother had to say after he saw the video of the final moments of his brother's life >> what i saw was a lifeless human being without any
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representation, disregard to his human life, care at what point do we stop preserving life? at what point do we consider mental illness a crime can someone explain to me why my brother is not here right now? >> and you see ben crump, who you've worked with on so many of these cases standing there what needs to happen here, rev >> well, this is outrageous. i talked to ben crump last night before he went into virginia i certainly stand with him in terms of giving out condolences to the family to us justice here seven officers to hold this young man down i think his brother said it better than anyone could say it. when is having mental health issues a crime and a crime where you lead to
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death? this is an outrage in its face i think that the prosecution of these officers is appropriate. but i think that there needs to really be some national outrage because we're continuing to see particularly people of color, particularly black people, that are caught in these situations where they are said to have a mental health issue, and you pummel them. you in many ways assault them rather than try to treat them. and for this young man to be in a health, on his way or in a health facility, to be treated like this, is inexcusable. >> melissa chan, reverend al sharpton, thank you both so much our next story might freak you out just a little. how companies are harnessing artificial intelligence to potentially change the future of work and maybe a lot more. plus the migrant crisis hitting record levels. but this time at a place you might not expect
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the company behind an advanced model called chatgpt is taking it further that system can do taxes it's passed the bar exam with flying colors even answers questions like a shakespearean pirate jake ward is keeping tabs on all of this. i don't know what a shakespearean pirate is but explain why this is a big deal. >> i'll leave that to the technology but the reason this is such a big deal is a.i. is fundamentally transforming what these companies think they should be offering to you and i. microsoft was originally the way that we all got off of typewriters and into doing word processing on a computer and then google was the way we started taking that word processing and putting it into
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the cloud. now you have both companies racing to be the one to give you ai along with their writing products microsoft revealed its co-pilot system i'll show you video in which it actually writes things for you it essentially lets youjust sa here's the kind of presentation i would want and, boom, it just bangs it out for you it safz you incredible amounts of time. it also may be the end of all human creativity but that's another matter for a longer segment. it is a big, big fight between two multimillion dollar behemoths. i want to go to the pentagon because officials have been holding a press briefing what's the headline so far, courtney. >> we got one question answered and that is what is happening with the russian military. the pentagon press secretary saying they do have indications that the russians have been trying to reach some of that wreckage
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he didn't say whether they have been successful, actually been able to pull any of it out of the water or even from some of the deep depths of the black sea. but acknowledging for the first time here on the record on camera that they are trying to do that. we also heard a little bit about for the last 48 hours since we found out about this incident, one thing we've been pressing very hard here at the pentagon, at the white house, all of our colleagues across the area is to get video. earlier today the u.s. military released that video. one of the questions to pat ryder is why today why did they decide to release it here's what he had to say about that >> it's not unusual for us to release imagery of unsafe, unprofessional incidents we've done that in other situations and so particularly in this case, given the reckless and dangerous behavior, and to demonstrate publicly what type of actions the russians had taken, we felt that it was important to provide this imagery. the united states does not seek
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conflict with russia we do not seek escalation with russia and so we're going to continue to stay focused on our primary mission in the ukraine area, which is supporting ukraine. >> so general ryder explaining that one of the major reasons that they released this video today was because they wanted to prove that the u.s. narrative, which is frankly pretty different than the russian narrative of what occurred over the black sea tuesday, they wanted to prove their version of the events we saw the russian pilots were behaving in a reckless manner, flying extremely close to this u.s. drone, dropping fuel on it and at one point colliding with its propeller. we don't see that explicitly on the video, but you can see something that seems to jar the camera, it pixilates and we come back and see the propeller has been damaged, chris. >> thank you so much, courtney kube we appreciate your reporting on all of this. that's going to do it for us this hour. join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday 1:00 to
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