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tonight on "the reidout" -- >> so look, all i want to do is this, i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state. >> turns out that wasn't the only call trump made to try to overturn his georgia defeat. with criminal charges possibly coming soon in georgia and new york, we need to talk about why the justice department is taking a back seat to those investigations plus, newly released january 6th video clearly refutes tucker carlson's phony narrative about the supposedly peaceful tourists january 6th committee member adam schiff joins me >> i'll also be joined by the journalist who was fired after privately calling out the desantis administration for propaganda and wait until you hear the scathing response from princess

diana's brother after donald trump claimed she and the other royals used to kiss his big old bum. but we begin "the reidout" tonight with what is considered the most difficult element to prove in a criminal case, intent proving someone acted intentionally to commit a crime. for donald trump, that is what state prosecutors and special counsel jack smith need to show if they ultimately choose to indict the former president. luckily for them, trump has left a clear trail of bread crumbs to help them in their efforts in the fulton county special jury investigation, we're learning of a third call that trump personally made in his attempts to pressure georgia officials to flip their state's results from biden to trump. nbc news has confirmed the grand jury heard a recording of a phone call between trump and georgia house speaker david rolston, who died in november. in which trump urged his fellow republican to convene a special session of the state legislature to overturn the georgia results.

that news was first reported by the atlanta journal constitution, whose reporter spoke to five grand jury members. one of them told the paper that the speaker basically cut the president off. he said i will do everything in my power that i think is appropriate. he just basically took the wind out of the sails this latest revelation comes as we already know about two other calls trump made as part of his pressure campaign. one to georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger, where trump made this request. >> so look, all i want to do is this i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state. >> and the other to a top investigator in the georgia secretary of state's office, urging her to find dishonesty, to overturn the results, making this claim >> i won georgia i know that, by a lot.

and the people know it and you know, something happened something bad happened hopefully, you know, when the right answer comes out, you'll be praised >> and while those five jurors would not disclose the details of their deliberations and have no knowledge about what fulton county district attorney fani willis will ultimately do in response to their recommendations, one juror told ajc, quote, i tell my wife if every person in america knew every single word of information we knew, the country would not be as divided as it is right now. and another added, a lot is going to come out sooner or later and it's going to be massive. it's going to be massive we're expecting an announcement from willis any day now. at the end of january, she said her decision on whether to bring charges was, quote, imminent this comes as we also wait to hear from manhattan d.a. alvin bragg about potential charges in his criminal investigation into

trump's hush money payment to porn actress stormy daniels. when it comes to proving trump's intent in that case, that grand jury spent more than five hours hearing from the man who orchestrated the payment on trump's behalf, his former personal attorney, michael cohen. last night, cohen told me he came to court armed with receipts >> my understanding of that would be for you to provide not just testimony, not just corroboratable testimony but also documents would that be accurate >> of course when you start bringing documents and emails and text messages and other documentary evidence to the table, it's impossible for that statement not to be valid or validated >> now, let's not forget cohen literally went to prison in part for the same thing that trump is being accused of and while it appears that d.a. bragg could be first in line to bring charges against trump, let's just be clear. there are more than a few people

in america, safe to say, who are wondering if this new york case is the best to be brought first, setting the tone for all the others charles blow pushes back on that thinking writing, quote, any case against trump must hang on the evidence and the principle that justice is blind. the political considerations including gaming out what might be the ideal sequence of cases across jurisdictions and by their gravity only serve to distort the judicial process and to trump's countless claims that any indictment of him will put this country through aos, blow adds, that's not a reason to avoid vigorously and swiftly pursuing him but rather a reason to do it if we establish a pres minute that amassing a threat to society is awarded with enforcement of the law, it makes a mockery of the law, but the question remains, why are two states on the hook to do a job the justice department arguably should be doing themselves why are they being left to hold the bag to go first and carry these questions into history

when president biden literally gave attorney general merrick garland that job joining me now is charles blow, "new york times" columnist and msnbc political analyst, and ellie mistal, justice correspondent for the nation, and it's your column, charles, so i'm going to let you go first. i have heard this a lot from family and friends and others who have said, it makes no sense to me that the case that goes first and the case that may be the one that trump actually finally gets indicted for is the porn actress payment but you have said doesn't matter >> i don't think it matters as much you know, i think you raise an interesting point. if the federal government and merrick garland were asking the states to hold off or to order their cases, that would be one thing. but to expect district attorneys and prosecutors across jurisdictions in different states elected by different sets of citizens to then back seat their case because they want to let another case go ahead is also playing around with the

judicial system. if you have the evidence, if you have -- if a grand jury or a special grand jury in the case of georgia has suggested that you should charge or indict, and you feel like you have the evidence to do that, you should do that in a timely manner it is both fair to the american people but also fair to the defendant who is donald trump, to go ahead and proceed with it forthrightly what i think the danger here is we're showing americans that people who are powerful and wealthy do not have to play by the same rules if we do not go ahead with swiftly and comprehensively prosecuting someone who we know has evidence against them that suggests that they have committed a crime. if you are poor and if you have powerless, the system would waste no time whatsoever to throw the book at you, and they

may not even know they're going to win the case in the end that would not be a consideration they would take into account and i think that the danger here is that we underscore the flimsiness of the idea of equal justice under the law if we continue to let trump flout it >> i think you can't argue against that i guess the think that troubles the folks who tell me, and i might be in that camp a little bit myself, is that the gravity of the things that trump did, first, michael cohen went to jail for something he didn't have an affair with stormy daniels. he served time in prison for it. it's logical to say trump ought to be prosecuted for that crime, full stop. at the same time, there's something that bothers me about the justice department hanging back and being like, go ahead, georgia and new york y'all take care of this. they're still questioning his lawyers right now. they seem to still be working their waork, but why should the

states have to carry the ball. >> because the justice department is cowards. i agree with charles blow because i'm not an idiot, of course i agree with charles blow you should prosecute the case in a timely manner, but the timey manner was a year ago. because folks, and i have tried to make this point as clearly as i can, but time's arrow goes forward, and there's a timeline here that circumscribes what you can do to trump. that timeline is the 2024 election cycle we're talking right now about the cases in georgia let's say fani willis decides she's going to indict, and now she brings up another grand jury to do that indictment. that pushes us most likely until around may folks, the 2024 republican primary in georgia is on march 26th, 2024 you cannot spool up a trial against a former water salesman and president of the united states, donald trump, in the time available between now and

the georgia primaries or between now and the new hampshire primaries in february. so as this timeline gets elongated, what we're then left with is the possibility of trying to try a former president of the united states during an election cycle where he is running, most likely being the leading vote getter for his party. i would be willing to do that, but i have seen nothing from the justice department that tells me they have the kind of courage to do that. and then even when you get at the state cases, i believe in fani willis, i believe she is a dedicated public servant, but even fani willis has admitted she understands political realities. remember, it was fani willis who said they weren't going to do anything in terms of announcing anything about trump in the lead-up to the midterm elections. that was, i think, the appropriate call i think it would probably be very difficult to seat a jury about election fraud during the presidential election when one of those guys is running

like, do trump people get to sit on that jury do biden voters s get to sit on the jury so the timeline to hold this man accountable before he was allowed to try to take over the government again happened in the past and that's because merrick garland did not move fast enough and courageously enough to bring this man to heel when he had the opportunity. what we're looking at now is just very difficult to see how we go from where we are now on the ides of march to a conviction and jail before this man can run for president again. >> it's funny, charles i feel like trump in some ways has had the greatest luck in the world that he ran for president and the worst luck had he not run for president, he could have paid stormy daniels all the money he wanted. it wouldn't matter, it wouldn't be connected to him trying to save his campaign. in this case, he got the benefit of sdny not prosecuting him for what they prosecuted michael

cohen for. he had his justice department throw cohen back in jail because he wrote a book. he had all those benefits and power, and he still in a sense is poised to maybe get away with it all or have the public say, oh, you guys have to be kidding. you're prosecuting him for a sex thing? you know what i mean, or -- and then the last thing i'll say to you, charles, the federal government is the one with all of the protection. fani willis is going to absorb the incredible risk if she prosecutes trump she doesn't have the resources of protection that merrick garland would at the federal level. same thing with alvin bragg. again, the states are taking risks that it blows my mind that it seems the federal government is so reluctant to take. >> but i would say, alvin bragg is in new york city, which has a police department the size of a country, a small country's military i think he would be perfectly fine seeking protection from the new york city pd

but i take your point, though, and it is important to remember that the entire system is failing. because it is never anticipated a donald trump and so every one of the rules is one that he can exploit. >> yes >> the timelines make no sense because he understands that he has the power of delay he has enough money to do it he can constantly file challenges to things he can constantly file appeals all the way up until something goes to trial. if it ever does go to trial. he understands that. and what we're doing is sitting back, hoping and praying that our old antiquated system of rules, not even laws, are going to help us or save us. and they won't no one prosecuted him for four years when he was in also because we had a silly rule in the doj that says you can't do it when he's a sitting president. the sitting president is the one who committed the crime, he has

to be prosecuted, but they don't want do that then you get him out and he says i'm running again. i put you back on the same clock and you have the same problem again. we have to just say, the clocks don't work throw the clocks out let's just deal with the evidence we have if there's evidence to prosecute this man, you have to do whatever is happening. when he's running, when he's elected again, whatever is happening he has to do it. as soon as he gets back into office, if that happens, and gets his hands back on the department of justice, all of that is out the window >> the only thing that wouldn't be out of the window is he couldn't pardon himself from the state cases. that's the one benefit of these two states potentially being the ones to prosecute because there's nothing he could do about it it's a conundrum, but it feels like -- look, he's been committing crimes, i don't think the man has paid taxes since he worked for the "apprentice." got away with that, too. charles blow and ellie mistal, thank you. up next, gripping new

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president biden continues to falsely claim that he actually won the election but now he blames his former vice president for the events of that day, because mike pence dared to follow the law. still, the fbi has arrested just a small fraction of the more than 3,000 people who could be charged. more than 1,000 additional people could still face charges, and at least 250 suspects are still wanted by the bureau for assaulting officers. despite what we saw, tucker carlson, tucker swanson carlson, to be exact, released cherry picked video to rewrite the truth and claimed that what we saw was in fact peaceful and the people who stormed the capitol were sight seers, not insurrectionists as for the qanon shaman guy who tucker went to great lengths to defend as a police escorted visitor, well, on sunday, the doj said that tucker omitted what he really did which includes this lovely video of the man and others forcibly entering the capitol

>> ah, peaceful tourism. this week, we got even more video from the doj which shows us how those meek sightseers came within feet of chuck grassley, who as senate president pro tem, was third in line for the presidency. here he is behind the officers surrounded by a security detail, trying to escape the sightseers who came ready to murder mike pence and were within feet of assaulting grassley. tucker carlson tells us we should not believe those images, that every single day the department of justice arrests a new insurrectionist and releases a cache of footage that reminds us this wasn't some benign tour of the capitol but rather exactly what we watched live, a

violent siege on our democracy >> do you hear me? we're not losing the u.s. capitol. >> joining me now is congressman adam schiff of california, former member of the january 6th select committee, also a candidate for u.s. senate in california congressman schiff, i must get your reaction to the fact that despite tucker carlson clearly lying about that footage and distorting it and distorting specifically the jacob chansley crimes which he's guilty of and serving time for, kevin mccarthy is still defending giving him the footage. your thoughts? >> this is part of mccarthy's deal to get the speakership, which is to give this video footage to this propagandist on fox. it just shows how the speaker is willing to sacrifice not just the truth but the security of the very institution of which he is now the speaker in order to curry favor from the most extreme members of his conference but it's so important to

continue showing this footage because tucker carlson uses that megaphone to lie and lie and lie to the american people and as we have seen in the dominion voting litigation emails and texts from tucker carlson, he knows he's pushing a big lie. he shows his private disdain for donald trump and the uncertainty of claims of fraud around the election, yet he makes it clear as do rupert murdoch and others, when it comes to fox, it's just about the money. when it comes to kevin mccarthy, it's just about holding on to the title of speaker and the country be damned. >> of course, tucker carlson tweeted he hates trump passionately, and to your point, there was a deal cut for kevin mccarthy even though it still took him 15 votes. he made a promise to marjorie taylor greene, allegedly, to investigate speaker pelosi and the department of justice to release this 40,000 hours of footage to tucker carlson and to have a subcommittee to

investigate the events surrounding the capitol breach and also they're talking about the people who were arrested many of whom assaulted police officers and beat them with their own shields and tased them they're calling them political prisoners. and some of those people who are behind bars are now using tucker carlson's edited footage to say wow, we're going to get off because tucker is helping us this feels like quite a bit of collusion between some members of the house of representatives, tucker carlson, and the people who engaged in the -- just your thoughts on all of that. >> well, it is just another page out of the trumpist playbook, and that is when you're caught in serious wrongdoing, then you investigate the investigators. you try to discredit what you were involved in and the investigation of that by investigating the investigators. here, they have gone to the extraordinary length of trying to persuade the country not to believe their own eyes, not to believe this footage, not to believe hundreds of police officers that were injured that

day, and to make heroes out of these violent hooligans, to somehow claim they're political prisoners, to champion them. you have the former president reportedly doing a music video with some of them. i mean, it is just absurd, but if we ever needed a modern education in the power of the big lie that is the lie repeated over and over again, we see it today in the fact they have succeeded in persuading tens of millions of americans they can't believe their own eyes, they can't believe what they see. they have to believe propaganda, and it couldn't be more dangerous if americans can't agree on a common set of facts then what basis do we have to make decisions about policy and how we move the country forward? >> you have people like barry loudermilk who led a tour of insurrectionists who is now heading a investigation into the investigation. given the fact people like jim jordan laughed off subpoenas from the committee that you were

a part of, if you're subpoenaed, would you respond to that subpoena by doing the same and saying -- fighting it or saying i don't have to lis toon subpoenas from republicans >> i respond to a legitimate subpoena i don't know if i'll get a legitimate subpoena from that crowd. yes, you're right. anyone who gets one could use the defense i'm not going to bother to show up because these are clearly optional that's what jim jordan did but nonetheless, i think members of congress, members of the administration should comply with legitimate oversight. the question is, are we going to see anything that even resembled legitimate oversight or more of this kind of gaslighting that we're getting right now from jordan, from this select committee on the so-called weaponization of the federal government and the like. >> let me ask you this while i have you here. you are running for senate, for dianne feinstein's seat in the united states senate are you concerned that this

becomes really sort of a messy food fight between three popular members of the house, maybe even four, and that in some way all of you sort of battling for that seat in some way undermines the unity of the caucus? >> you know, i am concerned about it i don't want to see that happening. i'm keeping my message very positive frankly y have enough on my hands responding to the attacks i'm getting from kevin mccarthy, donald trump, and others who are out there saying adam schiff should not be in the u.s. senate so i'm directing my fire on the other side because that's where the danger to our democracy lies that's where the challenge is to our country, and creating an economy that works for everyone. i would hope the other candidates do the same we're all rivals under the same flag, and we have more on our hands than fighting with each other. >> all right, we will definitely be watching. should be an exciting race congressman adam schiff, thank you. still ahead, republicans sure do love their freedoms. like freedom from disturbing

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in his 1941 state of the union address, president franklin d. roosevelt proposed four fundamental freedoms that all people deserve

>> first is freedom of speech and expression second is freedom of every person to worship god. third is freedom from want fourth is freedom from fear. >> the four freedoms offer a powerful vision for the world, representing too what america can be at its pest today's conservatives have their four freedoms too. representing as it turns out america at its worst freedoms only for them to enjoy. one of them is freedom from history. meaning the violent, painful, and unsiavory parts that make white folks look or feel bad in florida, where book banning has reached orwellian levels, the desantis administration is scouring history books for prohibited topics. at least one publisher in order

to cater to their draconian lines chose to change the story of rosa parks by omitting race kind of hard to talk about rosa parks without mention of race. here's the original passage. this is for first graders. quote, the law said african americans had to give up their seats on the bus if a white person wanted to sit down. that's pretty clear. then check out these revisions one mentioning race, but indirectly saying parks was told to move to a different seat because of the color of her skin. the next revision took race out completely saying ms. parks was, quote, told to move to a different seat that's it. no mention as to why no mention of race or segregation. the law that resulted in parks' subsequent arrest. it isn't just desantis and his minions waging this war against history. according to "the new york times," a conservative group complained to the state that a fifth grade textbook mentioned slavery 189 times.

another objection, an eighth grade book gave outsized attention to the negative side of the treatment of native americans. quite the euphemism for genocide and why not a fuller account of acts of violence by the indigenous, the group complained, such as the jamestown massacre of 1622 in which warriors killed english colonists. why wouldn't they welcome the european invaders taking their land pretend thanksgiving as bizarre as this stuff is, it does help to explain the other freedoms republicans hold so dear the freedom from facts, freedom from modernity, and freedom from losing elections it's why they're hellbent on erasing the progress of an entire searchry to take us backward to a world where lgbtq people can not live or thrive and god forbid drag queen story hour, and where as they would have it, women exist as nothing more than incubators which is why today in the year 2023, one male trump appointed judge can decide if a common abortion pill will remain on our shelves

joining me now is tim miller, msnbc political analyst and writer at large for the bulwark, and tim, i have to tell you, i thought about this this morning, and i'm like, it is sort of a four freedoms thing, right republicans are trying to live as marjorie taylor greene helpfully admitted they want a safe space where they don't have to thing about the modern world and they're using the law to make it happen as somebody who participated in writing what used to be the old plan, you helped write that autopsy that said no, no, what we need do is expand our base, this is their new strategy what do you make of it >> yeah, listen to fdr there, the fourth freedom really stands out, that freedom from fear. boy, that's not the freedom that ron desantis and this crowd take into very much consideration in fact, they're doing the opposite fear and intimidation is a key part of the plan you know, look, at the bulwark just yesterday, my colleague jonathan wrote about this story, there's a christmas drag show at

the hyatt in florida, in miami, and ron desantis now is targeting that hotel and trying to take away their liquor license as a punishment for hosting this drag story hour look at these drag stories all over the country where people are being menaced in tennessee and other states where the oath keepers are standing outside part is because of the rhetoric being pushed forth i think there's no doubt about this when it comes to that type of freedom and the issue of parental rights. that's another you mentioned orwellian. whose parental rights? like, our parents don't want our kids to be uncomfortable and have to read about the gay penguins what about the gay parents what about my right? don't i have a right to have my child feel comfortable talking about her family >> the thing is, it used to be that republicans would tout a free market capitalism, but you're right the drag queen christmas, it's

literally a spin-off of rupaul's drag race. are they going to ban rupaul's drag race from the tv? it's just a tour of that show. the kids can watch rupaul's drag race on television, but if they happen to be in the same room with a rupaul's drag race live show, what do they think it's going to do to them? i feel like it's a huge admission of defeat that they don't feel they have enough influence over their own kids that they have to have the state enforce their values because they know young folks don't want their values >> yeah, it's an admission of defeat at home and also in the culture. that's why this new autocratic strain of nationalism is growing in the republican party. they realize they have lost the culture. they cannot win in a liberal society, classical liberalism, which used to be a republican policy, by the way, in a liberal

society, people should be able to choose what they want if you want to have a drag queen story hour, you don't want to take your kid there, great, don't. but if i want to take my kid, that's fine. that's where we can live together republicans don't like that type of classical liberalism anymore because they realized the culture has moved on so now they need laws to put bans in place which obviously contradicts this notion of freedom. i think libertarianism and freedom are out of vogue in the republican party even if the rhetoric is still en vogue >> and the orwellian piece is they call it parental rights as you made a good point, i asked a lovely republican gentleman who was not a maga person, but what happens if a black parent says i want my kid to experience the bluest eye, as you said, a parent who has a gay child, i have a gay daughter, what if i want her to read the book, what if it makes her happy and included to read this book in school? they don't have an answer for that other than let you read it at home. also, they're saying being in

possession of the book is a third degree felony. are they going to start coming after parents who have these books at home? i wish i could say they would never do that, but at this point i think anything could happen. >> yeah, i mean, sure. that's a stretch maybe it seems like at this point, but look at teachers an actual, tangible example. in florida right now, if a teacher reads a prohibited book, if they read and tango makes three and a parent hears about it, they can, now there's a bounty system where they can have the state go to the school, a civil penalty, not a criminal penalty, but that's a short jump to say the school could be liable if a teacher was to read one of these prohibited items or hand out an assignment that talks about sexuality or gender in a way that is prohibited. i think that using the state to go after teachers, that's something that's already happened >> there's a third degree felony attached to some of these

offenses the reason librarians are pulling these books because they're worried about a felony the other piece is going after private businesses you brought up this private business that decided on its own that said this is a show, no one was forced to go to the show, but do you think at some point business tends to tilt toward republicans. at some point, do they go, whoa, you're going after disney, going after this hyatt y'all are not for business being able to live free in this country. you want business to comply. >> i do think so, and you're seeing that, right, among some of the turn toward democrats among college educated republican business types, maybe not as many as i thought or hoped, but you're seeing some movement the disney thing is a prime example. i went to see desantis last week, and he talks about how he was going after disney he says it explicitly, because they're sexualizing our children i'm like, what exactly is he talking about because i remember when this happened and it was

the buzz lightyear kiss. it was like a very g-rated kiss between two women in a buzz lightyear movie. that's sexualizing our children? what about the prince sxs the frog, what about snow white? what are you talking about so the business feels that threat, oh, man, i can't even have a g-rated lesbian kiss in myproduct or the state might come after me. i do think that will impact their thinking >> and what they don't understand is businesses aren't doing this because they're nice. they're doing it because they want to make money and they know there's a pluralistic society and the audience wants them to do things to keep everyone involved and they want every kid to have a doll they can relate to and buy and purchase. it's because it's good business. anyway, tim miller, thank you. i appreciate you up next, an axios reporter is fired over his seven-word response to a desantis press release, raising questions about the lengths desantis will go to

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>> if i could finish me question >> you asked the question, i'm going to answer it >> wow, florida governor ron desantis has made no secret of his disdain for the media. he's chosen to replicate donald trump's approach when you have a potential presidential candidate who seems to only want to troll the press, it makes it difficult for journalists to do their jobs this week, for example, the desantis team released a quote/unquote press release about his roundtable on exposing the diversity, equity, and inclusion scam in higher education, end quote, which is just basically a summary of a meeting between desantis and over conservatives filled with the evils of dei and crt it reads, these concepts are no way inclusive and do not contribute to learning or knowledge, unquote now, for anyone who has never worked in politics or communications that is not what a press release is

a press release usually notifies media about an event they can attend not an essay on why they hate crt. something tampa based axios reporter ben montgomery called them out for, replying back, this is propaganda, not a press release. in response, the florida education department's communication director tweeted out a screen shot of that reply, leaving him to the wolfs and trolls of elon's right wing twitter and that led to axios firing montgomery. that kind of mauve from team desantis sends a clear and chilling message to any reporters who might be covering his potential campaign give him positive coverage or else and if journalists are getting fired for calling them out, it sends a message that desantis can get away with it joining me is ben montgomery, reporter and author of "a shot i will note before i talk to you, we did reach out to axios we asked for a statement w also invited them to come on and participate in this an respond.

we did not hear back so let me just ask you, when you started getting trolled on twitter after the person fro desantis's team screenshotte your email and posted it, di you hear from your bosses at axios that was a problem but you are now being, basically, outed for your email? >> it took a little while. i think it was quite a few hours later that email was posted mid afternoon and i got a call late monday evening i thought for sure it woul just blow over i have seen this happen to a number of my colleagues in florida. it seems like it happens every time somebody challenges whatever information might b put out by the governor or i this case the department o education, which has become politicized branch of th desantis administration. also part of the desanti campaign so we have the florida department of education,

engaged in, in my view campaigning for desantis for 2024 presidential campaign so what they are doing i weaponizing these emails tha we sometimes sand and trying t make us look like left activists when really were jus interested in serving th people and being true public service and doing the righ kind of work that the taxpayer are paying them for. >> there is a bullying aspec and a lot of trolling. they do a lot of twitter trolling they tried to bully my dea friend and colleague andre mitchell for asking a question not even to desantis, to the vice president, kamala harris. did you experience, before this, any bullying behavior from the desantis camp? >> look, i'm mostly right abou fluffy things. i cover the news, of course. i've been an investigative reporter for a long time but not with thi administration

by and large i have not had th opportunity to do any kind o in-depth reporting on desantis administration i'm not a person the the should be afraid of, i don't think. i'm not writing about them every day. i'm not digging deep, in other words. so yeah, but this wa propaganda it was a waste of my time. that's ultimately what i was saying it's wasting my time and it' done in a clear vein o propaganda this is objectionabl propaganda i read the whole thing because i gave them the benefit of doubt because they work for th people of florida. i want to do right by my readers. and so if it wastes my time have a right to say so and i feel like what axios did to me has a chilling effect on the entire news media. it's a very sad. thing >> 100 percent it does show that bullying works. that sends a message to ever other journalist you put up a fun tweet after this all happened. saying that you had made a quiche what are your next plans

>> i was talking to my agent today about whether there was book in this maybe there is maybe it's time that somebod isn't afraid to stand up t desantis, write a true biography of him so i might be the guy to d that we'll see. >> good luck he he has his military records, people o asked him lots of questions, i'm hoping to turn do it up next, trump's creep obsession with the lat princess diana earns him a blistering critique from diana's brother. next - [narrator] the future. the way you see it is said to depend on where you sit. at x-chair, we think it also gets down to how you sit which is why our technology is light years ahead. x-chair has done it again

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