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at this hour, bipartisanship on the menu at the friends of ireland luncheon attend bid president biden and speaker mccarthy will the look of the irish translate to good will on capitol hill >> a newly released report finds black veterans were denied benefits for ptsd more often than their white counterparts. the fallout a little later on in this hour. the new border battle. our exclusive reporting on a major surge in migrant crossings at the border with canada. plus, target putin the international criminal court issues an arrest warrant for putin for war crimes in ukraine ahead of a profile visit from chinese pretty xi. we're following all of the latest splents can we just pause for a moment and talk about the wear of the green. you're looking great today on this st. patrick's day
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let me start with the breaking news international criminal court that issued arrest warrants for putin and one of his commissioners for war crimes both accused of unlawfully deporting ukrainian children to russia joining me from london, nbc foreign correspondent megan fitzgerald explain the charges against putt yun putin and what it might mean >> this has been a month's long investigation that started in september. and the lead prosecutor for the icc saying that they were able togather enough evidence to bring about these arrest warrants he went on to say, want to read the statement, he said the pretrial judge as sesed there were reasonable grounds to believe that each suspect bears responsibility the statement went on to say that they found evidence that suggests these children were taken from orphanages and along with children in care homes and taken to russia. we know there was a u.n. report released yesterday that detailed
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a list of alleged war crimes by russia one of them, the unlawful transfer of children they have been citing the yale school of public health that found that more than 6,000 children between the ages of 4 and 17 were taken from ukraine to russia. and part of the reason why they found was, one, to be put up to be adoption and this way of re-educating and cultural brainwashing we're hearing from ukraine's foreign minister saying the wheels of justice are turning. really praising the icc for this we also know that the icc is very blatant in saying that ukraine, the entire country, is a crime scene and that multiple investigations are underway. so, chris this is really just the tip of the iceberg >> megan fitzgerald, thank you for that >> president xi announced a state visit with putin next week and it could have far reaching
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implications both for the ukraine war and the fragile relationship between washington and beijing. courtney kuby has more what can we expect from this meeting? and what is the thought back here in the states about it? >> so there is a couple things people in the u.s. will be watching number one, is there any movement on these concerns that have now been focal for several months that china may be considering sending more aid to russia for use in ukraine? that includes nonlethal aid which we know there is already been some duel use tech none n - technology and also lethal aid that is a bigger concern we've been hearing more and more about from the administration in recent weeks a concern that china could cross that line and start providing lethal aid to russia for use in ukraine. but even if we don't hear specifics about that, a bigger concern that the u.s. is looking at is just the idea that china and russia are getting together
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on the world stage in this manner one of the u.s. and western alliance goals has been to isolate russia as much as possible since they invaded ukraine. you have a major player, major world player like china meeting with the president of russia with putin, that really cuts down on that we've also seen in recent days that china has been trying to take more of a role on the world in a diplomatic role on the world stage with the brokering of a deal between saudi arabia and high raven and iran is this another effort to bolster the chinese role in the diplomatic space on the world stage? those are all the things we'll be waiting for after this meeting, whether it's in the form of any kind of a written statement, whether the two come out and speak in any way that is what we'll be watching for. >> courty kube, thank you. now we have fascinating and exclusive reporting from julia ainsley. i understand that border
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crossings are up tenfold it's the northern bored we are canada you've been talking to local officials there. what are they telling you about this >> that's right. i just got back from the border between new york state and canada finally thawing out after that nor'easter but officials are asking for more help from border patrol they rarely saw border crossings. now they've seen a tenfold increase right there where you see that clearing in the woods that, is the border between the u.s. and canada. that's where we went they're seeing migrants come through the woods in the dead of night. some people carrying babies and toddlers they xget exposed to hypothermia and frostbite. this is not like anything they experienced there. the numbers are so much lower than the southern border the towns simply are not equipped to deal with the numbers. i spoke to the local fire chief of morris, new york. here's what he had to tell me.
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>> it's a pretty quiet town. we're a tight knit community, 3600 individuals you know, it's -- yes, we are a border town. you should expect certain things but not in the amount that it has exploded over the past several months i mean, it's gone -- it got crazy. >> chris, just before we arrived there, his local volunteer fire team as well as border patrol and ems and sheriff's department pulled out a group of migrants that were stuck in a frozen swamp. their shoes were taken off as they tried to cross. a lot of people not prepared for the terrain. they're seeing them cross the other bay. most of the people coming in from canada are mexicans who have gone to canada legally and trying to get into the united states oftentimes for reuniting families they're seeing migrants from all over the world i spoke to some from turkey, afghanistan, venezuela trying to
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cross from the u.s. into canada. they think they'll have a better job there. so really something to be watching right now border patrol is sending more agents there. those officials don't think it's enough >> julia ainsley, thank you. moments ago, kevin mccarthy made some remarks about bipartisanship to president biden. one irishman to another. our white house correspondent joins me with more this is a big deal every year at the white house. they have the friends of ireland luncheon but bipartisanship has not usually been on the menu, at least this year. what was said? >> yeah, especially these days, chris. st. patrick's day for those of us with irish roots is always a great day in washington, full of tradition. you mention the president welcoming the irish prime minister to the white house earlier. that shamrock presentation we know so well also that friends of ireland luncheon on capitol hill it was there that we did see a really important moment,
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perhaps, he was have seen very hotly contested tempers here in washington speaker mccarthy welcoming president biden up to capitol hill by recalling some of the past participants in that luncheon noted ronald reagan, a conservati conservative republican and tip o'neill were able to work very closely together during their time in office on very thorny issues including, he mentioned, social security. speaker mccarthy then going on to say i strive to live up to the legacy of those two leaders. president biden then came up to speak and he said that he agreed with the speaker he said that there is no reason we can't find common ground. he did so as he quoted irish poetry which is something we've seen president biden do well we're still waiting for a potential announcement of president biden's plans to travel to ireland. he hinted at it earlier this week he didn't make any news there.
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he did refer to pinaa potential stop he spoke about finnegan's pub. his great parents came from there. that is a destination that might be on the horizon. >> maybe a trip you want to sign up to go on. mike, thank you for that ron desantis is taking his anti-woke crusade from the home state to the national stage. but will it connect with the average republican voter if he runs for 2024? >> plus, breaking news, what law enforcement agencies are doing to prepare for a possible indictment for former president trump. and ang eastern outrage on the streets of paris president macron raised the retirement age all by himself. how it could change the country's political landscape. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc mara, are you sure you don't want -to go bowling with us tonight? -yeah. no. there's my little marzipan! [ laughs ]
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now breaking news out of new york, a number of agencies from the fbi to the nypd laying the groundwork ahead of the decision on whether former president trump will or will not be indicted for security. nbc's senior legal correspondent covering this story for us also with me, former federal prosecutor carol lamb what is also an msnbc legal analyst. let me back up for a second, if i can, laura do we know really where we are in this grand jury process and once they would wrap up, is there a general time line for when we might learn something? >> i can assure you, every reporter in the country is working very hard with all the sources to find out where we are in the process we know we reached what i sthin is an advanced stage, final stage. the reason we know that is because of the reporting that trump's attorneys were put on notice they could bring their client in to testify if he
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wanted to do so. we know he has declund ined tha. the defense attorneys met with the prosecutor's office. exactly the timing of how all this will play out, i don't think we should speculate. i think it is safe to say we have seen witnesses like michael cohen go in. he was there for two days. whether any additional witnesses or evidence come forward, the grand jury has an option to ask for that if it wants to we don't see any witnesses going in today doesn't mean there won't be. but safe to say that we have reached an advance stage. >> so, carol, is there any difference in the way at this stage, if we think it is the late stage and that seems to be the general consensus, in the way of manhattan d.a.'s indictment or lack thereof might work, how the grand jury process works versus, say, a federal prosecution? >> sure. there are a few differences when have you a state prosecution, for example. if they have wanted to file an indictment and then go to arrest
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a defendant who is in another state, there is a more complicated procedure. they don't have jurisdiction over defendants in other states and they have to go through a sort of removal hearing sort of extradition from another state but that's very unlikely to happen he could appear on court on the rainme arraignment date the state prosecutors have a little advantage over federal prosecutors in terms of -- in terms of not having a built in conflict of interest the way federal prosecutors do federal prosecutors report ultimately to the justice department who report ultimately to the current president and that is simply not true in state prosecutions these are elected officials, state or local and, therefore, they have a little bit more freedom even though it looks like they're doing the responsible thing and
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making sure that there is lots of security to protect the public and to make sure things don't get out of control they don't have an institutional conflict of interest the way the justice department does. >> so let's talk about that security that is the breaking news in all this what do we know about it >> we mknow that state, local, also federal, everyone from, you know, the secret service to the new york courts are in preliminary discussions to try to figure out how to keep everyone safe if in fact an indictment came to pass. and we're being told as early as next week what they are preparing for. again, these are preliminary discussions. it appears based off the sources that they are specifically focused on the courthouse in manhattan and trying to make sure the area in and around that courthouse is. obviously, the potential defendant at play here being the former president of the united states presents particular security issues that we just have simply never seen before.
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obviously, police officers deal with high profile defendants all the time you and both covered trials of people she high profile that walked through the doors of the office it can be a circus i think what we're seeing now is high-level discussions happening within the law enforcement agencies simply to prepare to make sure that they are not caught flatfooted and in a good position if this was to come at them next week. >> carol, we've all seen, you know, i've been outside of courthouses where there are high profile defendants, we've seen it from michael jackson and o.j. simpson, we can name the harvey weinsteins of the world. again, we have never seen a former president we don't know that this is going to happen. but what does that look like when you're in and around a courthouse when they know that there is just going to be a lot of people who are going to want to be there if the media to the
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public >> the choreography and the logistics here are pretty overwhelming and very, very unusual circumstance that we have here. imagine just the bizarre situation where they're going to have to coordinate with the secret service and this former president is being protected by the secret service because of his capacity as a former president of the united states you have a single agency responsible both for making sure that the public good and the public piece is kept and making sure that if an indictment is returned that the defendant is protected as well because he was the former president so, it's a lot of things to keep their eyes on. it will be not only in new york but also wherever the former president happens to be when the indictment is returned he already has security. so it's a very strange situation for sure but certainly there are the resources available to handle it
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well it just means you have to have a lot of experienced people in both sites to make sure that thing goes smoothly. >> well that, is something new york definitely does carol and laura, thank you both for getting in place for us on this breaking news meantime, florida governor ron desantis going after drag performances in his anti-woke crusade. but how much will that strategy help him as he prepares for a possible 2024 campaign you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc ring procs used to be the death of me. but with upwork... with upwork the hiring process is fast and flexible. behold... all that talent! ♪ this is how we work now ♪ (bridget) with thyroid eye disease i hid from the camera. behold... all that talent! and i wanted to hide from the world. for years, i thought my t.e.d. was beyond help... but then i asked my doctor about tepezza.
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fans -- performances are going to be a focal point for politics this is another example of that. people say the issue is one of public indecency that the vent, the christmas time event held here at the hyatt regency, they just provide food and alcohol. but what law makers are saying is decency is the issue. the performers were exposing themselves with nudity, simulating sexual acts and doing things no the appropriate for children the lgbtq community says this is another example of a mean, cruel, exploited politics we've seen in florida over the course of several years and that one that really focuses on the most discriminated vulnerable populations in the state in, this case, the lgbtq community. recently a couple weeks ago at the south beach wine and food festival, there was a protest from performers in the area, they're not connected to this performance, talking about the fact that these kinds of policies from republicans and
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desantis here if florida are not going to work. here's what they said. >> my message is that nothing is going to change. you can make whatever bill, can you do whatever law you want to do we are not going anywhere. we are going to exist every single day and if this is a fight you want to fight, you're going to be fighting for the rest of your life. >> go and do the research. don't just rely on what you're hearing. because i guarantee you if you go out there in the world and kind of see what we do and would we are, you're going to realize it's silly it's silly to think that way >> and, chris, ginger whom just heard from there said that about 20 years ago when she was young and living in central florida. she would park her car and walk across the highway to get to a performance with her colleagues. then when she would walk across it, people would throw bricks and rocks at them. we evolved so much in the last couple of decades you would think people have evolved. yet, situations like these, she says, perhaps, gives you question as to what whether that
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is truly happening chris? >> thank you so much, sam brock. quet the question is the implications politically florida having an anti-woke law involving colleges and discrimination policies was denied a judge called it positively distaupian desantis is it popular in florida. is there any real risk for him >> he does well in the polls until you dig a little deeper. in that, for example, emerson college came out with a survey today that said his disapproval number with independent women is 61%. that is a really high number to have a disapproval with independent women and think you're going to run nationwide so i think if he looks from his own state and takes it outward, he better start looking at some of the policies. you know what? people don't like a cam bane f - came pain full of hate they want to know what you're going to do for them
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>> the bigger, internal problem may not be culture issues but national defense he's been a target after he called russia's war in ukraine a territorial dispute. you wrote about how desantis has opened himself to accusations that he is the flip-flopper by changing his position on national defense what is happening with this former navy officer, right and how might it impact any campaign >> chris, the flip-flop label is going to stick over a decade ago and no one knew who ron deesantis was, his campaign copied john bolton. bolton was impressed with desantis spoke at a fund-raiser for the first came pain. donated the subsequent campaigns and it fit with the ideology on foreign policy that he carved out as a congressman very traditional republican on
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all manners of issues when he served in the house. now that he's a likely candidate for president, he sort of realigning the thinking around the more protectionist, pop lift, you know, ukraine is not in the u.s. national interest. and the interesting thing here is that if you look at the polling, he does poll consistently as the top alternative to trump and republican primaries but to susan's point, where is this going to come from for him? i was talking to a republican strategist who pointed out that he is -- although performing very well in the polls kbacompad to trump, the only place he can get votes is from the right. but when he alienates the people out of the middle, where does he go there is going to be anti-trump candidates in the race like possibly a chris sununu and anti-trump, i mean, much more trump ambivalent and if he can't get votes from them, you have to peel votes from trump the last thing i'll point out, he doesn't have an active
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presidential campaign. he is not an announced candidate. so when he gets in the back and forths with trump and nikki haley that suggests he's just trying to copy trump, he doesn't have a huge army of supporters that are able to get out there and stand up and speak for him or at least he's not interested in doing that. so that's going to be a challenge until ron desantis himself s himself declares for president. >> let's talk about personality. i want to read something that daily beast wrote, quote, the governor's vorgs to pressing the flesh and concern over the risk of unexpected interactions with the public is already so well known that early primary state players are working to desantis-proof events and his untested skills under the bright lights of a presidential campaign left operates to wouldn'ter if he is just the second coming of jeb bush or scott walker ouch what are you hearing
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>> those two governors were actually had a personality and did try and work the room. maybe they didn't do successfully at least they tried. seriously, when it comes to desantis, i that i things are going to slowly chip away at him. we'll find out what kind of candidate/governor he is because you -- we talked last time, chris. he doesn't do interviews except with fox. he has not allowed himself to be opened up to the general public at events. he's not going to be able to control things the way he wants to he's not going -- you know in, that article they said well he may have a precedent he may answer questions. that's not going to fly in new hampshire or iowa as you well know >> all right susan, henry, great having the conversation with both of you. thank you. coming up, an eighth state just restricted transgender care for minors y that number of states is only expected to grow. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc people remember ads with a catchy song.
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florida has become the eighth state to restrict transition related medical care for minors banning them from starting puberty blockers or hormone therapy. seven other states have similar rules and we can only expect the number to grow other states have similar bills moving through the legislature as we speak. i want to bring in our nbc's reporter who reported this story. joe, what can you tell us about the rule in florida and what are the practical implications >> sure. in practical terms, medical providers won't be able to prescribe puberty blockers or hormone therapy to minors for the treatment of gender if they were not already receiving it before thursday. and the rule bars surgeries for minors as well doctors in the state have said that they already minors already weren't able to receive that and if providers violate this rule, they could be subject to a
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list of penalties including a fine or the suspension or revokation of their license. >> we're expecting to see legal challenges, no surprise there. what can you tell us about them? >> sure. a group of parents represented by groups including the southern legal council and human rights campaign said they already plan to file a lawsuit in a federal court soon to block the rule they described the rule as discriminatory >> one parent told you in this report that you did, our daughter is happy, confident child. but denying her access to the medical care recommended by her doctors would completely disrupt her life i'm devastated by what this will mean for her physical and mental health but in the meantime, a member of the board of medicine in florida said it is not against care for tr transgender care for children but they can create irreversible haerm. is there a debate going on
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within the medical community outside of the political realm >> so, not exactly it's less of a medical debate and more of a backlash from conservative religious groups. in the u.s., all major medical organizations support access to gender care for minors some countries like sweden have restricted access to care while they conduct more long term research but none have banned it. and so the groups who largely support these efforts to restrict care are conservative religious groups they say that their ultimate goal is to restrict trans rights more broadly terry schilling, the president of the american principal's project said that the initial focus on children was a matter of, quote, going where the consensus is so their goal, they said, is not about better research, it's to stop trans people's access to medical care more broadly. >> joe, thank you so much. appreciate you being on the program. new gun laws could soon be on the books in michigan about a month after that deadly shooting
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at michigan state university which left three students dead the michigan senate advancing three significant proposals to expand background checks as well as establish gun is storage requirements and a new red flag law democratic governor is promising to sign these gun safety bills at a rally at the state's capitol. the michigan house passed similar measures last week new reporting from nbc news on veterans. a just uncovered 2017 internal report from the department of veterans affairs finds black veterans were more often denied benefits for post traumatic stress disorder than their white counterparts let's get right to nbc's laura strikler with more on her reporting. what kind of racial disparities are we seeing when we look at this report in terms of the va benefits >> thank you, chris. this reporting is a broad investigative team effort that started with reporting by our nbc news affiliates from coast
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to coast this va report was obtained through a freedom of information lawsuit by an advocacy group called the black veterans xbr project. it shows the va's own analysis says that they were denied disability benefits. this analysis from the va is six years old. we wanted to find whut is the cur -- out what is current rate so we called the va. they said while they acknowledge this happened in the past, and they're putting together a team to eliminate any racial disparities, they could not tell us what the colonel racial breakdown is they say they're working on it but nothing yet. >> so, are they giving you any indication that this is something that is a priority forethem and that there is a time line for getting this information? >> they did not provide a time line the va did give some aggregate saturday data to the black
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veterans project in response to their freedom of information request. and so they took the data, work that columbia university and analyzed it and found continuing racial disparities as part of our reporting effort with our affiliates, we'll continue to press the department for current data for a time line and we'll be asking questions about this new team that are assembling to address the problem. >> important reporting i hope you'll come back to us as you get more information from them laura laura strickler, thank you >> there is financial relief on the way for people with diabetes that rely on insulin drug maker sanofi is the third major company to cap the price capping the price of insulin at $35 per month with those with private insurance. it is an enormous cost reduction for a drug that has become cost prohibitive for many people who needed it. i want to bring in our health and medical reporter good to see you.
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what is this like 90% of the market now with these three big manufacturers? >> yeah. this is a pretty huge deal more than eight million americans use insulin. if you recall last year they passed the inflation reduction act which cap cost of insulin for people on medicare but not everybody else there is a lot of pressure on the drug makers to do something about it these three large drug makers are essentially capping the prices of insulin or cutting the prices for people on private insurance and also the uninsured which covers almost everybody else. >> what are we talking about in terms of savings and the decisions people had to make about whether or not to actually use the amount of insulin that their doctors are telling them they need? >> yeah. this is a big deal for young people who are on high deductible plans these are plans where people have to pay a certain amount before insurance takes coverage. and then also for the uninsured. so we heard of people spending thousands of dollars a month just to afford the insulin some people can't afford that and have had to ration which can
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lead to serious health complications. this is expected to be a big deal for these people. >> how quickly does this move? once they say, okay this is going to be the new thing. how long until they actually go and get their insulin and they see this new price >> it's different. there is three drug makers, eli lilly says $359 cap he is effective immediately for anyone that uses eli lilly insulin. sanofi could take a while. the changes won't go in effect until 2024 people have to wait the rest of this year before they see the benefits >> have you talked to any of the folks affected by this >> yeah. i'm work thong now i got a comment, this is a tie of relief, particularly for the young people out of college, just got kicked off their parents health insurance plan. now they'll autobe able to affo the insulin. sometimes insurance doesn't cover something if the price of the medication has become -- hor as dropped or become cheaper so now they're concerned about
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potentially having to pay that amount out of pocket but overall, it's been pretty positive >> sigh of relief. thank you so much for your reporting. appreciate it. good to have you on the show a live look at the anger boiling over in the streets of paris. just one day after the retirement age was raised. there you see emanuel macron who upset a lot of people when he decided unilaterally he wasn't going go to parly. he -- parliament. we've seen fires sunset cities all aren't country we have seen the protests spilling on to streets including at the place where there are reports that police had to use -- or decided to use a gas against some of the student protesters there we're going to continue to follow this and have much more coming up on "chris jansing reports" right after this.
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protesters building barricades setting fires, a huge police presence and they're preparing for a very long night there. we want to do a deeper dive on what this means with paris correspondent for "the washington post. we saw, rick, the fiery protests across france yesterday overnight. incredible season. lawmakers were very unhappy about what was happening here. how did it come to this? >> this is really weeks in the making perhaps even years, frankly. he is trying to reform the requirement age of the labor system for many years ever since he's been elected in 2017. over the past few months, he's made this commitment to pass this retirement reform to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64 and he has quite a lot of interest groups over the past
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few years by, again and again pushing through change without consulting voters, without consulting the unions. and that explains why the protests in the streets are now so big >> and clearly, he knew it, right? it's not like this is coming as a surprise that people didn't want it. and you write in the "washington post" about the enormous risk he is taking. so why did he do it? >> well, i think he really does believe that it is important to push through this reform france's social welfare system depends on it with demographic change and people getting older in a few years that's at least his assessment this system will fall apart unless retirement age is raised and that'sa lot more difficult
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to push through other reforms. his appointed prime minister is at risk of being toppled by the opposition in no-confidence votes next week or perhaps she'll have to resign. >> i think a lot of people on the outside who really don't understand what it is to be french may be surprised to see such fury. there are a lot of places in the world where the retirement age is much harder give us a little bit of the background on sort of the different mindset in france than certainly we see here where the mindset really is sometimes your worth is measured by how much in demand you are and how many
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hours you put in at the office >> you know, that's absolutely right. the numbers show that the french are expected to spend a lot more time in retirement than people living in other nations, such as the united states. but even in other european union countries. but what the people opposed to this reform are saying is that over the last 20 years, 30 years, working conditions in france have gotten a lot worse they have deteriorated there's a lot more precarious work now, especially for young people the opponents say that those concerns need to be addressed first before one can talk about raising the retirement age. >> rick noack, great reporting in "the washington post. appreciate you coming on the program especially with the time difference thank you. also in paris, some good news a new milestone in the restoration of notre dame after a devastating fire a few years ago. nbc's molly hunter got an inside look >> reporter: for the last few months, some of the most skilled french hands, 50 carpenters at
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project close to this country's heart. they're using methods that date back hundreds of years this 86,000 square footwear house in france was built just for this purpose the crafting of noetre dame's mighty wooden spire and we're getting the first look at the spier nearly done. >> and there is the real thing. >> reporter: this 27-year-old carpenter shows us which parts he's had a hand in the base layer, known as the trestle, measures 65 feet by 65 feet, almost 20 feet tall. it will bear the weight of the next three layers. now, we're watching them guide this huge piece of wood on top of the trestle, the biggest pieces of wood in this bottom layer weigh two tons the entire trestle is 80 tons.
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2,500 pieces of wood in total. 110 is part of the base. and today the assembly to make sure it all fits. >> is it exciting to see it actually come together >> yeah, it's great. it's great and satisfying. >> satisfying. >> the type of job we won't be able to do again in our professional life. so we're proud to be here and that's really cool. >> i mean this kind of job never comes around. >> no, never it's unique. >> reporter: and while paul doesn't call it patriotism, the architect, the team, the craftmanship, even the trees are all homegrown. we're in a lumberyard outside of the workshop the entire spire is made of wood, from almost 1,000 trees from across the country. the project last time we visited ambitiously planned to open up exactly five years after the 2019 fire sent the spire crashing down, now delayed until
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the end of 2024. at the helm, the french general. >> we will finish the spire in december of this year. you will see again in the sky of paris, the spire. >> is there pride today, though? >> pride, and above all, i say we are on schedule, we are on a good track. >> our thanks to molly hunter for that report. and march madness is under way with the tournament already, as it is wanting to do, delivering some big upsets the biggest so far, number 15 princeton pulling off a come-from-behind win against number 2 seeded university of arizona. this is princeton's first ncaa tournament win in 25 years i think that sound i heard was eddie glaude screaming about the princeton win. and if you think you might be hearing a loud crumbling of paper at the white house, president biden had arizona
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winning the entire tournament. wah-wah. consider his bracket busted. he chose villanova to win the women's tournament that is first lady jill biden's alma mater former president barack obama picking duke to win it all they did win their first game. for the women's tournament he chose reigning champs south carolina and then vice president kamala harris and first gentleman doug emhoff got in on the tournament action firsthand they were there to cheer for harris' alma mater, howard university but they fell to number one seed university of kansas never a good draw when you get the number one seed. that's going to do it for us this hour. a lot of basketball to watch a quick programming note be sure to watch inside with jen psaki every sunday because it starts this weekend, noon eastern time, right here on msnbc. you can also watch it streaming on peacock make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday, 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern right
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