good to be with you, i'm katy tur we start today with breaking news exclusive reporting from nbc news chief justice distributor jonathan dienst that local, state, federal law enforcement and security agencies are preparing for the possibility that former president donald j. trump could be indicted in

manhattan as early as next week. this is according to five senior officials familiar with the preparations and in the worlds of unprecedented, this would be the absolute definition of it. a former president has never been criminally indicted before, never. so local law enforcement agencies are running the possible scenarios, going through potential security plans, gaming out the variables, according to the same officials, who also stress that this is a just in case no charges have been filed and nbc news cannot report that any decision has yet been made that we know of more on what this means in a moment because it could get pretty complicated we also have new reporting from "the washington post" that could have a significant bearing on the special counsel investigation into january 6th "the post" has reviewed a copy of a report called "project 2020." a study trump's team paid for

but never released to investigate the election results in six key states that he lost according to "the post" the berkeley research group was paid more than $600,000 to look for fraud and irregularities, which the group did not find, at least not to the extent that it would make a difference. so what might that mean for prosecutors who are trying to potentially nail down donald trump's intent ahead of the insurrection joining me now is nbc news senior legal correspondent laura jarrett and "the washington post" political reporter who broke the story on "project 2020" is josh dawsey all right, i want to begin with what's happening in new york it is significant i think to hear from jonathan dienst that u.s. officials are preparing for the president of the united states, the former president, to be indicted. this is the nypd, the new york state court officers, the u.s. secret service, the fbi's joint terrorism task force and the manhattan district attorney's

office >> given the potential, potential defendant involved, you can understand why they would not want to be caught flat-footed. we know that certainly the prosecutor's office has an open line of communication with all of these law enforcement agencies, and there's a bunch of them involved. this is happening at the state, federal, local level and also of course, remember, u.s. secret service is involved here again because of the potential defendant involved we've never seen a case like this before. obviously high-profile defendants get indicted in manhattan all the time but this is another ball of wax but evenii think what you've seg is law enforcement agencies specifically focused in and around the courthouse wanting to ensure the building is secure and everything is secure >> we saw all of that violence around the capitol

when you're getting the joint terrorism task force in there, it gives you the idea that they are expecting or preparing for things to get pretty ugly if this happens. >> if this happens, for every day on social media, we have seen him post about prosecutors. i mean every investigation that he has faced scrutiny under, he has attacked the people that are investigating him. that's part of the playbook. so you can understand, again, why law enforcement agencies are erring on the side of caution, having these preliminary discussions. but again i think the timing is important here according to dienst's reporting, they are preparing for this to happen as early as next week which suggests we have reached an advanced stage. they're not just doing this based on all the media reporting or for nothing, it takes a lot of money and energy to coordinate something like this effectively and they are doing it because they have good reason to. >> they are stressing this is an if scenario but i worked with jonathan dienst for a long time. there's perhaps nobody better

plugged into the city than he is when you talk about his reporting, you know he's talking to serious folks can we read into anything, though the idea that they would be preparing when they knew something was not coming are there lines of communication that we can presume are happening between the manhattan d.a.'s office and the jttf, the secret service, et cetera? >> yeah, they work with these agencies all the time. they obviously have a good relationship they depend on them in order to do their jobs. it's a two-way street. we're not privy to all those conversations. i wish that we were. i wish we could report on exactly what that looks like but i think it is fair to say that these are people in a position to know these are top level law enforcement officials. they don't make moves for nothing. >> an indictment itself, would we -- i don't know anything, i'm just going to say this now but if there were an indictment, would we know about it immediately? when do we find out that the president has been indicted and when does he find out that he's been indicted if that happens? >> in all likelihood we would

not know about it immediately, as much as i wish i could report that it is most likely we would see it filed under seal by the prosecutor's office. it gets filed under seal with the court. we would not know about that unless it's in a reportable way and then it would be unsealed at some point the prosecutor actually has to go to the judge and go to the court and get an order unsealing it in which case then the defendant would obviously be notified of what the charges are. but until that time, it's still supposed to be technically under wraps. all the grand jury proceedings are supposed to be under wraps even those preliminary conversations that are happening, it's all sort of theoretical right now. >> and when it is unsealed, we'll find out what the charges are. when he's taken in, that's not public what's public is the arraignment, right >> whoever is processed -- any time a defendant is processed, they are supposed to come and get their finger prints. >> so we'd see him marching in but if he doesn't -- if they make an exception for him and

they do it somewhere else, we wouldn't necessarily see that, right? >> if this follows the typical case, understanding this may not be the typical casey based off who it is. in the typical case the person actually comes to the manhattan district attorney's office for processing they get processed, they run a criminal history to see if there are any outstanding warrants they do the fingerprints, then the arraignment happens. that processing is not in front of anybody the arraignment is public. >> let's bring in vaughn hillyard who is in west palm beach near donald trump's florida home, mar-a-lago vaughn, are we getting any reaction from mar-a-lago, from the president's team about what jonathan dienst is reporting or do we know of any preparations they're making right now for what could come? >> reporter: we have not heard from trump's counsel indicating that they have received any communication from the district attorney's office. as laura was just outlining, unless that indictment were to be unsealed, there could be the potential that the district attorney could reach out

privately to donald trump's counsel and arrange for that arraignment hearing to take place. as far as we're aware right now, donald trump is still here at his mar-a-lago private club. as for donald trump himself, this morning, though, posting multiple videos in which he derides the multiple investigations into him, including this manhattan district attorney's hush money payment investigation. take a listen to part of those straight-to-camera videos. >> these four horrible, radical left democrat investigations of your all-time favorite president, me, is just a continuation of the most disgusting witch hunt in the history of our country whether it's the mar-a-lago raid or the unselect committee hoax, the perfect georgia phone call it was absolutely perfect. or the stormy "horse face" daniels extortion plot, they're all sick the doj, the fbi, the local

prosecutors should all stop. >> reporter: this is donald trump going on the offensive here, essentially suggesting that this is an effort by democrats across the country to try to undermine his presidential campaign so that they don't have to face him here the question is if an indictment were to come, would donald trump try to make a spectacle of this and go up to new york city with the cameras rolling or would he try to make this an effort in which he tries to do this quietly. there's a lot of outstanding questions, all existing and we don't even know if the grand jury has wrapped up its work here. >> or does he refuse to go and drag ron desantis into this and politically speaking that could get complicated for the governor of florida if you look at the polls, he's the most competitive candidate for the gop nomination laura, i want to give you one more question on this.

if he does delay and if he tries to delay, can he tell the manhattan d.a. i'm not ready to come yet what can he do >> so it doesn't work like that in the normal case in the typical defendant, they don't really have the option of saying i don't feel like coming. again, i want to preface it with we are in uncharted territory. we have never seen a former president indicted and this former president has not been indicted so we have a long way to go here i think we should settle in because a lot could change very quickly. but he would not have the option to just say i don't feel like it. >> again, we do not have any reporting suggesting that a decision has yet been made josh dawsey, there are multiple investigations into donald trump, both state investigations and federal. you've got some really interesting reporting that could affect the special counsel's investigation talking about donald trump's intent about trying to overturn the election, intent ahead of january 6th. "project 2020," what is this

>> yeah, so after the election during the transition when former president trump was vigorously challenging the states trying to overturn the election, his campaign team commissioned a secret report where they hired an outside consulting firm called the berkeley research group to look into these different claims in all of these states, in pennsylvania, georgia, in arizona and nevada and other states to try and figure out if there was any veracity to what he was saying. what they came back and find out is that there was not. most of his claims they found to be largely unfounded or overblown. they presented these findings to trump's lawyers. for example, trump said there were 5,000 dead voters in georgia. the project said at the most there were 23. his lawyers said there were more than 1,500 dead voters in nevada the project said there were maybe 20 at most there were lots of accusations

that he made publicly that they looked into and they found out there just wasn't much evidence for them and so the report was buried it was never shown to the public but his team kept a copy of the report the berkeley research group kept a copy all of these folks had a copy and now the department of justice has a copy of this report why it's interesting, though, we don't know how this is going to end and i don't want to speculate too broadly here but they have been trying to prove intent for months, for maybe even longer than months in this investigation. what did the former president and his team know when they were saying other things publicly can they show that he knew beyond a shadow of the a doubt that the election was not stolen as he said what are all these data streams, these advisers, these reports showing that the election was not stolen from him and how can you prove that so they have been subpoenaing folks asking for evidence of the things that he knew and disregarded. >> yeah, intent.

that is a tough one. do we have any idea -- potentially a tough one -- if donald trump himself saw this report, was presented with the results of this investigation? >> i know that he was briefed by the berkeley research group and its team on their findings i don't know if he saw the totality of the report. >> josh dawsey, thank you very much laura jarrett, vaughn hillyard, appreciate it. joining me now is former assistant district attorney for manhattan, rebecca what do you make of all of these preps? can you hear me? >> i can't hear you. >> she can't hear me we'll work on rebecca's audio. hopefully we can get that up and running in just a moment in the meantime we're going to go to this story u.s. capitol police were not told that january 6th surveillance video was going to be passed along to tucker carlson's show, according to a new court filing let's bring in nbc news congressional correspondent julie serkin

thanks for being ready a little early for us u.s. capitol police, what are they saying? >> reporter: katy, i'm having a little trouble hearing you but this is super significant that we are finally getting a timeline for how all this transpired the short answer to your question is, yes, mccarthy did have the right to hand this over to tucker carlson. this happened by way of the committee on house administration they are one of the few committees that have oversight of the capitol police. in this filing by the general counsel for the capitol police, he's saying, look, we first learned of this february 20th that carlson had access to this. seven days later is when they came back to the general counsel of the capitol police asking them essentially is there anything out of these tapes that you already handed over to the january 6 select committee that you would mark as sensitive? the capitol police complied and gave them that list, but they still never knew that this was being handed over to carlson, despite making a deal with the

committee on house administration that they would know so. so of course the house is controlled by republicans, as is that committee we know now according to this file that they had the fox team come here. they set up portals to view some of this footage. it's just really notable here because the capitol police say, look, in all of the months the january 6 select committee was investigating the attack on the capitol, we had a direct line of communication. we knew every single piece of footage that they planned to show publicly. in this case they didn't here's a piece of what he said in this filing he says, quote, of the numerous clips shown on the tucker carlson show i was shown only one clip before it aired the other clips were never shown to me or anyone else from the capitol police we just asked speaker mccarthy about this and he totally defended his actions, even repeating some of his prior claims that the january 6 select committee revealed some of his exit routes from his office on

that day so he's totally standing by here but we see in this new filing just really significant the timeline of how all of this happened >> julie, thank you very much. it appears nobody yet can hear me so we'll work on audio issues don't go anywhere. still ahead, they say they don't care what a federal judge rules. two abortion providers say regardless of what an amarillo judge decides, they will wait for direction from the fda plus, israel is on the verge. what is happening in that country that is making some worry about an israeli civil war? first, though, could vladimir putin be headed to the hague? the international criminal court has just issued a warrant for his arrest ulcera colitis keeps flaring, put it in check with rinvoq, a once-daily pill. when uc got unpredictable, i got rapid symptom relief with rinvoq. and left bathroom urgency behind. check. when uc got in my way, i got lasting, steroid-free remission

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the icc, the international criminal court, has issued an arrest warrant for russian president vladimir putin on suspicion of kidnapping ukrainian children it's a bold move from the icc but not one with teeth the court has no arresting authority by itself. it needs the cooperation of the member country neither russia nor ukraine are members. kremlin spokesperson dimitri peskov called the suspicion outrageous and unacceptable, saying we do not recognize this court, we do not recognize the jurisdiction of this court still, it does limit vladimir putin's ability to travel,

putting him at risk if he were to visit an icc member nation. there are 123 of them, and each would now be required to arrest vladimir putin and transfer him to the hague for trial if he sets foot on their territory joining me now is nbc news pentagon correspondent courtney kube i should also say the u.s. is also not a member of the icc this news about vladimir putin, again, without many teeth. also news about a visit of president xi to moscow how is the u.s. watching this? >> very closely. they'll not only be watching for the body language between the two men but any possible statements, whether it's written or verbal, that come out after their meeting. the things that they're watching for is how could this impact the cooperation between china and russia and ukraine so there have been some concerns about china providing russia with nonlethal aid so things like boots or maybe body armor, things that could be considered even dual use, so not

even necessarily particularly for a military conflict but most likely would be used in a military conflict. but the bigger concern is the potential for nonlethal aid. so russia has really been struggling to resupply its military in ukraine, particularly with things like ammunition china has a lot of those things that russia is looking for right now and there's a real concern here in the u.s. that they could start providing it and that could potentially change the tide of the war in ukraine in addition to that, think about what the u.s. has been trying to do since russia invaded ukraine and that is isolate russia on the world stage. now they have -- vladimir putin has a major world player in china who they're going to meet with there will be video and cameras. it works against that idea that they're isolating them to try to stop this war in ukraine. >> it seemed like for a little while there was some hesitation on the part of the chinese in getting too involved in this war. does the u.s. believe that that hesitation has now lessened, that there is more of a desire by the chinese to assist russia

>> not at this point there's no indication the chinese have made the decision to start providing that. back last year the biden administration made a real push to convince china not to help russia in ukraine. there was a belief for months that that had actually worked until later in 2022 when it looked like they might start providing some nonlethal aid. >> courtney kube, thank you as always and on the subject of strained relations, the u.s./mexico relationship appears to be struggling as well joining me now is nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian so ken, what's going on? >> katy, current and former u.s. officials are telling me it's the worst it's been in decades the law enforcement cooperation between the u.s. and mexico, basically nonexistent, right at the time when it's most needed when more than 100,000 americans are dying each year of opioid

overdoses, of fentanyl made lie drug cartels in mexico using things they woobuy in china this has always been a strained relationship why are the cartels so rich? because americans are buying their drugs and also supplying them weapons but this is particularly bad what dea, former dea officials tell me is there are no joint operations going on. in fact the mexicans spend more time surveilling the dea and americans than they do the drug cartels. one person told me we know where these traffickers are and the fentanyl is being made but the mexicans will not do anything about it it's part corruption, it's part politics, but all bad for the united states. >> part corruption, part politics, all bad for the united states is there anything on the horizon that could help with these relations. any meetings taking place? anything that could start to get this relationship up and running again? >> sadly there was a high-level

meeting last week or earlier this month right as those americans were kidnapped and killed at the mexican border and the top officials who were there, lisa monaco, deputy attorney general, and others were hoping they could come back and announce some progress on the very day the meeting happened, the president of mexico made some bizarre comments where he said that we don't have a fentanyl problem in mexico in fact fentanyl is not even made here, which is false. so it threw the whole thing into chaos. look, no one is suggesting there are any easy answers here, katy. the biden administration has very little leverage because they need mexico's help on the border mexico is our largest trading partner. there's a huge sort of joint relationship between these two countries that goes beyond the drug war a lot of people i'm talking to thinks the biden administration needs to get a little tougher with mexico. >> ken dilanian, thank you very much. moving to israel where that democracy appears to be strained hundreds of thousands of protesters have been picketing nightly since january, angry at prime minister benjamin

netanyahu's controversial attempt to limit the power of the judiciary. look at those images there are now even threats that elite officers in israel's military are planning a walkout over it on sunday. joining me now from tel aviv is nbc news correspondent raf sanchez. raf, i want to start with a quote that i read in "the atlantic" yesterday from the former israeli ambassador and he writes last thursday night, the sirens started wailing in tel aviv, the telltale sign of an attack my first thought was please, god, let it be a terrorist better the familiar trauma of a palestinian terror than the novel horror of jews shooting jews, igniting a civil war because such a nightmare these days indeed seems conceivable. remarkable words from michael oren on what it's like in tel aviv right now tell me more. >> reporter: yeah, katy, it gives you a sense of how high the stakes are you and i were on air together last week when that attack

unfolded here in tel aviv. it is one of just many, many unsettled nights in this city, in this country right now. two nights ago, the president of israel, the largely ceremonial figurehead, head of state, went on television and he said that he felt civil war was possible, not metaphor cal civil war, actual civil war jewish israelis turning guns on each other we are nowhere near that point yet, but there are a lot of disturbing signs and everything appears to be going in the wrong direction. there has been violence this week between protesters and police, but also protesters who are opposed to netanyahu's plan to weaken the supreme court and those who support him. now, the president, isaac hertzog, has been closeted with legal experts for weeks trying to come up with a compromise that might diffuse this potential constitutional crisis.

he unveiled that plan this week. it took weeks to draw it up. it took netanyahu's government a couple of hours saying they find it unacceptable and they are planning to go full steam ahead to weaken the supreme court. the protesters have been out on the streets for 11 weeks and there is every indication they are going to stay there. >> i do want to show that red line in front of the supreme court. explain what that protest is saying. >> reporter: so these are people who are very, very worried that if netanyahu's plan to weaken the supreme court goes through, the israeli government has basically untrammelled power the supreme court, as you know, is really the only check on the israeli government's power in this country the executive branch and the legislative branch basically fused into one netanyahu is the prime minister because he and his allies dominate parliament. it is only really the supreme court that can stop them but these protesters turning out in the hundreds of thousands say

this plan weakens the supreme court, it means the government can do basically anything that it can assemble a majority in parliament for and they are very worried about what that means for the rights of people in this country, and especially for minorities you saw protesters out in the outfits of the handmaid's tale because they're worried about what it means for women, they're worried about what it means for the palestinian minority in this country. so these are people very anxious about the future of their democracy. >> and with elite members of the israeli armed forces potentially walking out on sunday, it does say a lot about the state of thing. raf sanchez, thank you very much. coming up, what florida governor ron desantis is doing to punish a miami hotel for holding a drag queen christmas show. first donald trump lays out his an jenda if he women's the white house. what he wants to do with the homeless, disciplining minors and doctors whpeo rform gender-affirming care. we're back in 60 seconds so it's decided, we'll park even deeper into parking spaces

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the trump campaign issued a series of policy proposals that is a noticeable shift from his 2020 campaign. the plan suggests the u.s. should toughen penalties f teens who break the law, order the direct election of school principals, add ten new cities on federal land, build those, along with tent cities for the homeless joining me now is nbc news senior national politics reporter and co-author of "lucky, how joe biden barely won the presidency," jonathan allen. also with me is political white house reporter, playbook co-author, eugene daniels. so, john, donald trump is laying out his proposals making it very clear that his agenda in 2024 if he were to win is focused on cultural flash points. >> not only cultural flash points, katy, but also the future in 2016 he was basically

laid out a vision, certainly talked about issues that he thought he could deliver for the american public such as building a wall between the u.s. and mexico in 2020 we heard about promises made and promises kept obviously a wall not fully built but he made an effort to do that we didn't hear a lot from president trump and certainly not an emphasis from president trump on what he was going to deliver if he got re-elected i think what you're seeing now is an effort to make sure the voters understand what it is that he's going to promise to them and it's also an effort on his part, you know, to make sure that he's got a flag planted in the ground on some of these big cultural issues where folks like ron desantis, the florida governor, have an opportunity to weigh in by the fact they're in office now which trump is not. >> he's in office picking these fights right now can you lay out a little bit more of the agenda and overhauling of federal standards for disciplining minors. what else does he want to do >> some of this is familiar and

some is recycled from the past, some of it is new. one of the things he's talking about is breaking up the department of education. we've seen him come out and talk about a ukraine policy that would be focused on getting the two sides to the negotiating table. you know, that's the opposite of what president biden wants to do right now in terms of knocking russia out of ukraine or helping ukraine do that. you know, we've heard a variety of proposals that really dig down in a lot of these areas i think there's generally a familiar cast. this is trump going back to that old anti-establishment view of the world, what he called national populism or the people around him called national populism and getting rid of, uprooting what he refers to as the deep state, what a lot of people think of as the civil service and trying to reorganize the federal government in an image like his own campaign. so, you know, there's a lot out there already. i think we're going to continue to expect to see some of these proposals roll out. >> let's talk about, eugene, president biden at the same time

getting a little bit of fire from progressives on the left for moving farther toward the center what's he doing that's angering not the base, but the left side of the party >> quite a bit actually. three of the biggest things have to do with crime there is also -- he went against what the d.c. city council said they wanted to do. when it comes to the environment, the willow project there will be drilling on lands in alaska, which he also promised that would not happen when it came to federal lands, no more drilling permits during the election and then three, on immigration clearly there are conversations happening within the administration about possibly bringing back family separation. excuse me, family detention in the immigration system so all three of those things are huge topic areas that progressives care a lot about.

many of them, at least two of them are places where president biden promised to be different and have a different plan. but on immigration specifically they find it really difficult to stem that tide of folks coming over illegally from different countries at our southern border and so we heard from a lot of different progressives who are ticked off about this and have been for a really long time. they felt very comfortable with ron klain, the chief of staff. they had a really good relationship with him. with him gone, they're starting to say, okay, the things we're worried about, biden going toward the center, are happening right after ron klain left. >>y myou misspoke and said famiy separation when they're talking about family detention, they're not talking about taking kids away from parents but they are talking about keeping families in those holding centers do we know how long they're talking about? >> the details are all over the place as to what exactly they mean by that

and thank you, yes, family detention. that's one of the things when you talk to democrats during the trump administration and during the election, 2020 election, they were trying had to everything as opposite as they can of the trump administration when it came to immigration. they talked about how those policies are racist and inhumane and the administration has done the same thing and so to see them kind of at least having conversations about bringing family detention back as a way to keep people from coming across the border, that is something that progressives are upset about and they kind of promised the opposite, right, to be more humane and to take care of folks in a different way. but like i said, that tide, they're just having such a huge issue. more importantly, title 42, which is that health policy, that is going down in may so they're having conversations because of that. >> jonathan, this is because president biden believes, and he hasn't announced yet, but to win

an election against donald trump or a candidate like donald trump, like ron desantis, that he has to be in the middle, right? >> absolutely. we saw that during the 2020 election that joe biden pushed back on the left part of his party. he pushed back on bernie sanders and elizabeth warren during the primaries and even in the general election when there were folks in his party calling for significant police reforms, particularly under the flag of defunding the police that's something that he pushed back hard on and tried to position himself in the center as much as he could, while still having a left of center agenda trying to position himself in the center it worked for him in 2020 and i think what we're seeing as eugene detailed there is him following that playbook again for 2024. >> john allen, eugene daniels, thank you very much. coming up next, a judge in texas is still deliberating what happens if he bans the pill used for medicated abortion but clinics refuse to abide by his

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we are still watching a courtroom in amarillo, texas, where a federal judge could decide to ban a pill used for medicated abortion regardless of what he decides, at least two abortion provider networks who operate across the country say they don't care. they're not going to stop

prescribing mifepristone until the fda, not the courts, tell them to stop joining me now is dasha burns. i'm a little surprised that we're still waiting on this decision it's been multiple days. what are you hearing from down there in texas and what about these two abortion providers who are saying we don't care >> well, he said in that hearing that he was going to do it as soon as possible what does that mean? clearly not 24 or 48 hours. >> if it was an easy question and he had the legal authority to do it it might be pretty quick. >> at the end of that hearing he asked attorneys if they had additional case law they wanted to submit they could do so he may be waiting to see if they have more to turn in i've said this many times and i'll say it again, this is not just about texas, it is about every state in the country but you're right since that hearing, several groups have come out saying it was whole women's health and trust women are two of the

providers who said they're still going to be prescribing mi mifepristone until the fda tells them not to. a lot of providers are not sure what they can and can't do there's a lot of gray area and the doctors that i've spoken to say it's really caused a chilling effect for providers because they're so scared that they're going to get sued. they don't know what is the line because the line isn't clear >> not just sued, charged themselves if they have providing care that is not legally defensible under the law. they're just not sure what the line is. the fda would have to get involved to take it off the market for these two clinics to stop providing it. presumably the united states, the federal government, i don't know who, somebody would try to file for an injunction against this to put a stay on it so that this medication would still be available as it winds its way up through the appellate courts and then the supreme court. >> right so if the judge rules in favor of the plaintiffs, it will of

course get appealed to the fifth circuit, which by the way is also a conservative-leaning court. what the government lawyers, the fda lawyer would say ask for would be a stay on that -- this judge's decision, so asking them not to pull it from the market but we just don't know what the response there would be. so it's possible that this judge could compel the fda to take it off of the market. what this means for these clinics and what providers choose to do after that is all up in the air. >> dasha burns, thank you. let's go back to the top story we had we have fixed the audio with my guests and we'll reminding you that nbc news is reporting that multiple agencies, including the nypd, the secret service and the jttf are preparing for a possible trump indictment in manhattan as early as next week, and that is according to five senior officials familiar with the matter joining me now is new york law school professor and former assistant district attorney for

manhattan, rebecca rofie can you hear me now? >> i can hear you. >> i just wanting to know from you directly, has the d.a.'s office ever been in a situation where they have had to plan for somebody high profile to come in with multiple law enforcement agencies without having definitively decided whether they're going to bring charges >> i think it's unusual and certainly the scope here is different than what you would previously see, but again it's manhattan. there have been significant high-profile defendants in which there have been serious security risks. and so it's not unheard of it just seems more extensive in the way that you're describing it. >> what are you waiting for right now before a decision could come down? >> i think that that's the next thing that we would hear, either there has been an indictment or not. at this point it seems like the grand jury is wrapping up and so

we're really all waiting to see what the details are in that indictment, when it becomes unsealed, because there's been a lot of speculation honestly we can't assess the strength of this case until we actually see what's in that document so it's impossible to say -- assess what about trump's reaction, how is he reacting, how will people react to his reaction until we see what is this case that is being brought, if there is one. >> is there any chance that an indictment has already come down, we just don't know about it yet, and that donald trump has been informed that he's going to be charged? >> it's possible, but i think given the timing, it's far more likely that what is happening now is the -- well, what was happening yesterday was the wrapping up of the testimony and then there will be an opportunity for trump's attorneys to come in and speak with prosecutors and then early next week you would have the grand jury convene to hear

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there's a third party that was overseeing this event. all they did was provide food and alcohol. it's not clear how far this complaint whether it's adjudicated, it can take a year or two to resolve, is going to end up why governor desantis might call this, a corruption of public morals, specifically there is sexuality on display on the event that could be offensive to children as you said a second ago, the marketing is really the key here originally it was packaged for people of all ages and then in the complaint the government said it was ultimately amended to say people 18 and up and kids should not see this nudity or sexual acts. they say it seems to be another example of exploitation of that particular community, vulnerable populations in florida when children see them and the artistic expression, they can be

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