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uncovered in multiple federa and state investigations had it's the most damning piece of evidence against donald trum and his ongoing legal battles, remains this phone call. >> so, look, all i want to d is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more tha we have. fellas, i need 11,000 votes. give me a break. >> then president trump, pressuring georgia secretary o state, to find him 11,000 vote in order to overturn the election result in that state. the phone call remains shocking,

no matter how many times you hear it. but the call was over an hour-long. and there are other parts of that call that prosecutors may now be taking a closer look at for instance, there is thi part >> so, dead people voted and i think the number is clos to 5000 people and they went to obituaries. they went to all sorts o methods to come up with an accurate number. and a minimum is close to abou 5000 voters. >> that was president trum insisting, again, to the georgia secretary of state that thousands of dead peopl voted in georgia during th 2020 election. today, the washington post reports that one day befor that infamous phone call, report commissioned by donal trump's own campaign had found that nowhere near 5000 dea people had voted in the stat of georgia according to the trump campaign's own report at the time, the maximum number - the maximum a number of vote

that could have been cast on behalf of a deceased person in the state of georgia, was 23 as in 20 plus three. as in 17 plus six. but president trump claime that 4977 additional dea person votes had somehow bee discovered 5000 versus the truth, which was 23 the report also found that claims of thousands of dea people voting in other state where similarly baseless again, donald trump's campaign was given that report the da before he made that call to th georgia secretary of state he was in a position to know that 5000 dead people did no vote in georgia. but he said it anyway in order to pressure the secretary of state. and trump kept making claims about those phantom dead votes long after that call here is president trump during his speech to supporters o january 6th, just before rioters marched over and stormed the u.s. capitol >> dead people

lots of dead people. thousands -- and some dead people actuall requested an application that bothers me a great deal not only are they voting, they want an application to vote. >> trump used claims his campaign knew to be false in order to rile up the crowd o january 6th. and now we know, thanks to thi reporting by the washingto post, that the report wa provided to the justic department earlier this month. in other words, trump' repeated lies about dead voter may soon become a problem fo the former president as specia counsel jack smith examine what trump knew about the lies he was spreading as he tried t upend the results of the 202 election and smith's is just one of the four major crimina investigations currently hanging over the forme president. in addition to the special counsel's january 6t investigation, trump is also dealing with an investigatio into georgia - in georgia, one in manhattan another special counse investigation, again, courtesy of jack smith, into hi handling of classified

documents down at mar-a-lago so, right now, the one thing donald trump really needs is a rock solid defense team, o teams, plural. but instead, his attorneys kee finding themselves in th crosshairs of th investigators. this is attorney evan corcoran he's a lawyer representing trump in the investigation involving his allege mishandling of classifie documents. today, a judge ruled tha despite being trump's lawyer mr. corcoran is going to hav to testify before the specia counsel. now, lawyers typically do no have to do things like that, because of attorney client privilege. the only time a judge can forc a lawyer to testify as whe there's reason to believe that the lawyer aided their clien in committing a crime. it's called the crime frau exception. and if that sounds familiar, i is because that is also wha happened to trump lawyer joh eastman, who had to turn over trove of privileged emails after a judge found that he an trump more than likely committed crimes in thei

scheme to overturn the election so now, we have yet anothe finding by a federal judge tha another trump lawyer may hav done too much crime-ing an will now have to get out of hi lawyer chair and sit-down in the witness chair and star answering questions. and evan corcoran is now not the only trump lawyer facing new questions about hi behavior joe tacopina is -- trump's attorney and the manhattan da hush mone investigation into - trump's payouts too adult film star stormy daniels. at least for now because today, just securities ryan goodman uncovered several 2018 media appearances by jo tacopina, in which he claime that to stormy daniels approached it tacopina t represent her. that could be a problem for -- then mr. joe tacopina has conflict of interest and could not represent than trump i that hush money case, at least according to new york. law today, a representative fo

joe tacopina said that his client had never met storm daniels and that someone els approached him on her behalf and mr. joe tacopina refused the request. but in a 2018 appearance on cnn, joe tacopina himself seem to suggest his legal connection with stormy daniels were stron enough to give her attorne client privilege >> joe, i understand that yo had some communication wit stormy daniels at some point >> you know, obviously there i attorney-client issues let's put it this way. >> oh! >> go ahead. oh, wow, what? -- >> jack, let him finish. >> the question is whether i was contacted or asked t represent -- the answers, yes i was, but can't go into anything further >> that potential conflict between trump lawyer and storm daniels could explain why th prosecutors in the manhattan d 's office spoke with ms.

daniels earlier this week. and this is an understatement. now is not the best time for trump to be having lawye problems, especially in that case nbc news is now reporting that law enforcement in new yor city is preparing a security plan for the manhattan crimina court with the expectation tha donald trump could be indicted as soon as next week mr. tacopina has told multiple news outlets that if trump i indicted he will surrender himself to authorities as tacopina told the new yor daily news, most people woul collapse under the weight of this joining us now is tali farhadian weinstein and paul butler, professor at new yor university school of law - and tali, i will start with yo in terms of joe -- there so many different layers to all these different legal sagas. let's start with the one tha seems most pressing joe tacopina is

president trump's counsel in this case. and it sort of seems like he may have a conflict of interest here for people who are no lawyers, can you explain how and why that might be the case >> yes, so, alex, i don' actually see how he ca continue to represent trump in this case. because he has two sets of obligations that the right issue. one is that you have talke about in terms of hi obligations to stormy daniels, because there was a time whe he represented her and so that generates conflict of interest because, under the ethical rules, he cannot represent someone whose interests ar adverse to her, which, clearly this is. >> diametrically opposed >> right and he can't use anything that she told him in confidence i that next representation now, she can weigh those conflicts. maybe there was some discussio of that when she met with th manhattan da's office and mayb she thought, okay, i auditione him, trump can have him. but that's not the end of it because there is the second se of obligations he has, just as

an officer of the court. he has a duty of candor. so, he can't say something i court that he knows is false he can't illicit testimony tha he knows is false. so, he's kind of at disadvantage compared to a lawyer who comes in fresh an it does not know what she migh have told him. so, let's say, for example, sh showed him proof of th relationship - >> he can't argue in court t the contrary >> he can't say, no, the actually never had an intimate relationship he can't put trump or somebody on the stand - it's hard to imagine trump o the stand -- to get them to say something h knows is untrue. so, i just don't see how he ca carry on >> so, he's very limited in th arguments that he coul potentially make an all of this, if - in fact ends up in a crimina trial. >> it is totally a kept lawyer at this point. >> paul, it's great to see you first of all and second of all, let me -- when you look at the facts tha

we have -- and admittedly, we don't hav the full picture here there's a lot going o behind the scenes that we don' know but when you hear about stormy daniels being asked to mee with prosecutors, does tha potentially signal to you that they might - it's not about stormy daniel versus trump maybe storm daniels versus joe tacopina? >> it could be again, the question would be if she waived an attorney-client privilege that she had, then as we've, hear that wouldn't be the end of th conversation if, in fact, there was a attorney client relationship then he can't represent donald trump. that's a textbook example of a conflict of interest ms. daniels could well be prosecution witness agains trump. trump's defense -- would have to cross-examin her. the defense attorney could potentially use confidential information he learned fro stormy daniels when he was considered handling her case and, alex that violates th ethic laws of new york state

as well as barr rules. >> none of this seems like a positive legal development for the former president, right? there is - you know, rumors swirl about the timing of potentia criminal charges it could happen in the next fe days it could be catastrophic t lose your council in advance o that or to have him so compromised. for people who don't understan what is happening right now, what is the manhattan da tryin to sort through at the stage o the game as we talk about the sort of precipice into indictment land >> yeah, so, we have lots of reason to think that he is close to the end i think it's actually even possible that he got a indictment and hasn't filed it yet, which sort of starts th process of an arrest or surrender. but even if he hasn't, it seem like he has put in all of hi main witnesses, and the gran jury will just have to vote on what is a relatively straightforward indictment and really a single charge and then there are the securit

and other issues to deal with. because we are talking about a former president and because w are talking about donald trump the former president - so, he has security needs, legitimately, because he is former president so - there will have to be some goo faith conversation about wit the secret service about how t bring him in in a way that i safe for him and say for the courthouse but that all seems to me really, doable, alex >> how does that work, though? if their responsibility is protecting someone 24/7, how d you bring someone in to ge arraigned? >> we have never, obviously, had this situation before -- >> yeah, yeah! >> but people with massive security needs have been prosecuted in open court o much more serious charges. you know, i'm thinking about terrorists, right? and so i'm not worried about that that just seems like a logistical problem that need to be worked out between the d 's office in the nypd and th secret service i think the harder questions

would come if trump did no surrender, which is what mos people do when they are charge with a nonviolent, white colla crime. they walk in, they don't wan to be arrested and have all of that drama and he has said, so far jo tacopina has said that trump i going to walk in on his own. but if he doesn't, and he's in a different jurisdiction - he's in florida -- that could get reall complicated really quickly >> yeah. and paul butler, i want to - there is the basic hurly burly of bringing someone in wit that amount of security, someone who is so high-profile then there are the optics too, right, for the manhattan da' office there's a question - of how do you manage thi historic moment? not historic, necessarily, in good way it's very complicated, right what do you think? what are the consideration that you think alvin bragg, th da, needs to make in the context of bringing the firs former president ever in fou criminal charging?

>> so, i'm not expecting a per walk i think that brag has difficult responsibility i that he's got to both ignore the politics, and be super attuned to them. when someone is charged with a federal crime, they can be arrested, which is the law enforcement officers in this case, the fbi, go to the person, and put him or her in handcuff and take them to the station house in order to be - bucked or, what happens mor frequently, in white-colla cases, is that the person is summoned that, is they are basicall given an invitation, or orde to show up to court on a specific day so, i think that's the mos likely thing to expect wit trump. >> i'd love to know from you vantage point, paul, what yo think jacks mitt is looking fo in terms of potential restrain on the part of the da in all o

this >> you know, the da's case i quite different from jack smit 's it's a state case. the da's case is mainly abou donald trump, kind of before h became president so, i think that's the special counsel is worried that if trump is charged in multiple jurisdictions in federal court a state court in new york an the state court in georgia that could look like piling on but at the same time he's got responsibility for his own jurisdiction, in manhattan, to make sure that nobody is above the law, including donal trump. it does not matter that this i kind of a minor crime compared to some of the other allegations against trump. most of the cases that prosecutors are bringing our misdemeanors >> yeah, and i understand that as the da told me onset, we ar following the facts where they lead us. but i do think there has to be -- i would imagine the specia counsel would want the least

circus like atmosphere - well, maybe many people want the least circus lik atmosphere as possible excepting, potentially, donald trump. but the more this become chaotic, i just worry, doe that further complicat potential indictments down the line how much is that the concern over at doj? >> yeah, the order of things i not ideal, really, alex. because we are talking about someone who is under investigation for much mor serious crimes, ranging from election fraud to endangerin the nation's security. and this is a relatively small isolated incident that happene seven years ago. and you would not want this to ruin the more importan opportunities of pursuit for accountability that ar happening around the country but i think everybody know that they all have independent obligations and duties to thei own jurisdictions, to th victims in their jurisdictions to pursue their own work and i think, in the end, thi

one is going to actually b kind of a footnote, the hush money, prostitution -- >> - the magnitude, perhaps, of the target but in the moment, and in th history making 80 d line in th sand, no other president, if this happens, has been charged with crimes before and that - will always -- if alvin bragg goes first, i will always be his name there. i have to ask you about thos other investigations - the fact that evan corcoran, trump's other lawyer - the fact that we are talking about donald trump's lawyers all having - problems is not a great thin when you are under the spotlight, legally, as the former president's the fact that evan corcoran ha been deemed -- the crime fraud exception ha been invoked in this, what doe that portend for mar-a-lago? i, mean is that going to b meaningful or is evan corcoran just going to plead the fifth if and when he has to testify? >> well, there's two things. first of all, what it tells me is that they are looking at th obstruction charge because it seems like corcoran

's role was between when the first subpoena for those documents went out in may an the documents that turned up i the search warrant because, in between, he ha written a letter to the doj, basically saying, we did a diligent search and we found everything - and then there was more -- it's not about how the documents got to mar-a-lago in the first place, not tha original crime but was there a cover-up and intentional obstruction -- of justice after the fact? so that is important because that charge has been floated around now, it seems they are pursuin it, really, all the way to i and. now, if he pleads the fifth, it's interesting because we don't really know that he necessarily ha criminal exposure himself. the crime fraud exception does not mean, all ways - it can mean that the lawyer an the client were conspiring together to commit a crime but it could also just mea that the client was asking his lawyer for advice on how t commit a future crime. and that is not protected by the privilege. and the doj might decide the are just going to give -

>> immunity -- >> - exactly. >> that's where this all ends. >> - exactly. >> i'm not a lawyer, but i can't remember a time when s many lawyers for the sam person had so many problems. paul butler and tali farhadian weinstein, thank you so much for your time this evening we really appreciate it. coming, up the presidents of russia and china plan to mee next week to discuss commo goals and the war in ukraine that, as our own forme president, says the greatest threat to essence of liz asian is neither russia nor china. so, then, who is it? senator chris murphy joins m to discuss all of that and more that's coming up next. save hundreds for safe driving with liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance. so you only pay for what you need! whoo! we gotta go again. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ oh! it's daylight saving time. what's the big deal? gasp! what's the big deal? what's the big deal? what's the big deal?

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criminal court issued an arres warrant for russian presiden vladimir putin the court accused putin of committing war crimes, specifically saying that h bore responsibility for russia objecting ukrainian children now, the likelihood of putin ever showing up for a trial is slim to none but the timing of the symbolic black mark on putin -- well, that is significant. because on monday, chinese president xi jinping's - taking his first trip to mosco since russia invaded - ukraine last year. xi it supposedly there t attempt to broker a peace deal between the two countries. and china does have a lot of power in that conversation with so much of the glob ostracizing putin's government china's support and it willingness to trade everythin from microchips to assault weapons, that could make o break putin's war. just yesterday, politico broke the news that, in the second half of last year, chinese companies covertly sent russia companies 1000 assault rifles,

12 shipments of drone parts an more than 12 tons of chinese made body armor. now, china, the country claims to be neutral in all this. it claims publicly that th country is not providing letha assistance to russia but in china, there is not a huge difference between chines companies and the state itself all domestic businesses in china ultimately answer to thi man, chinese president and authoritarian leader x jinping. last week, xi secured an unprecedented third term a president and he did s unanimously. that was possible because chin state legislature abolishe term limits in 2018, thereby allowing xi to rule for life if that sounds familiar, i might be because in 2021, vladimir puti passed an incredibly similar law extending term limits to allow him to effectively serve for life and while president xi has not been, himself, criminall charged by the international criminal court, like putin

last year the u. n. released a report accusing china of human rights violations that may constitute international crimes, in particular crimes against humanity and china's mast attention o roughly 1 million predominantl muslim citizens in western china. so, while the world watche these two leaders meet o monday, it is worth keeping in mind that they are bot authoritarians, and neither on of them seems to be a big fa of democracy or self determination. and what makes that extr concerning, for those of u here in the u.s., is that th leaders of the republican part don't really seem to mind what is happening here. this week, florida governor an likely 2024 presidential candidate ron desantis s protecting ukraine is not vital u.s. interest. he called russia's war o aggression a, quote, territorial dispute, and the yesterday former president and current 2024 presidentia candidate donald trump sai this >> the greatest threat t western civilization today i not russia

it's probably, more than anything else, ourselves, an some of the horrible usa hatin people that represent us these forces are doing mor damage to america than russi and china could ever hav dreamed. >> joining us now is chris murphy, senator from the great state of connecticut and a member of the senate foreign relations committee. senator murphy, thank you fo being here with us tonight i would just love to get you -- your level of optimism, if you will, on the chinese being abl to lead and ultimately broker peace negotiation betwee russia and ukraine should that be taken seriously at all at this stage >> i don't think it should b taken seriously, in part because russia and china are clearly aligned, whether or no china is providing russia with the level of assistance that a once, ukraine is not going t view china as an honest broker and ukraine has made very clea

that they are in this to win that they are committed to fighting for their sovereignty and their territorial integrity, and they'll offer that another dictator, who is aligned wit vladimir putin is going to mak to ukraine, is not going to be a very good deal for ukraine but there is no doubt that china has a very dicey proposition ahead of its it is not likely that russia can last throughout this yea without more significant chinese assistance and yet china knows that it' economy runs on its ability to sell things into europe and th united states, and if ther were to be a more significan military alignment between russia and china, china know that is going to come with consequences at a moment when they kind o can't bear those economi consequences, the chines economy is not in great shap right now. and if there were multilateral sanctions based on their deepe integration with russia, tha

would have real consequences for xi and his whole power so, i think there is a tough decision ahead for china as to what they are going to do. but russia has not many othe lifelines available to it fo the spring, summer, and fall besides china. >> yeah, and i think former u. s. assistant secretary of stat danny russell made that exac point, that in some ways, th purported goal is a peac agreement. but it's also to curry som kind of favor with our western european audience and he say xi jinping's target is not russia or ukraine, but rathe western europe he said, what he's trying to d is set it up to that in th eyes of the germans and th french, he gave it a shot. he basically needs to give it college cry so that furthe sanctions are not imposed on the chinese to the detriment o their economy. i also wonder, though, independent of the chinese russia the common thread between chinese and russia autocrats, there's this lust for a pending territoria sovereignty, and while the

russians are trying to tak over ukraine, the chinese very much have their eyes set o taiwan and i wonder how much you thin russia's success in this endeavor means a lot to china, because china could maybe se itself doing sort of the sam thing with the taiwanese >> i think there's two element here that really matter to the chinese. you've identified the firs one. so china clearly wants t expand its borders its first target is taiwan, bu remember, it's got territorial disputes outside of the taiwan straits. for instance, they have territorial dispute with india they are definitely watching t see whether russia i successful in expanding it borders through force, or, how much of a price russia pays fo that expansion so there is no doubt that this is a moment where th post-world war ii order, which essentially says, big nation don't get to expand thei borders through military invasion, whether that order i still good

but the second element for china is this. they are just pretty happy whe the united states is distracte by a fight in ukraine an russia they like that everybody i watching that conflict it allows them to expand their military and economic influenc in asia. so they are also interested in just keeping this war going as long as possible, to keep both russia and the united states and europe focused on that theater instead of watchin what china is doing in the pacific. >> because you brought up what is happening in the u.s. vis-ã -vis all of the broade international concerns, i have to ask you about, the postur of the republican party in all of this. time and time again, whe republicans are given the time to criticize putin for his actions, they differ or they sometimes actually hav things to say about him. the same is not true for president xi jinping in china. president trump needs to giv the party the memo that it

china merits the criticism what is it about putin tha republicans seem to find something? why do they have a houma putin's actions in russia in the way that they don't with the chinese isn't just trump's attitude toward each leader? >> well, let's be clear, first of all, it's perfectly legitimate to criticize the u. s. decision to help ukraine in the fight against russia we should be open to having debate about foreign policy, just like it was legitimate fo me to criticize our involvemen in the war in iraq it's legitimate for republican to criticize our involvement with respect to the ukrain war. but this doesn't feel on the level. that statement that you're playing from donald trump, i which you suggest that the biggest threat to america's no china or russia, but americans who don't agree with him you know, it sort of speaks to how dysfunctional this dialogu

is inside the republican party here's the big problem i think there is a big slice o the republican party, no everybody, not all m colleagues in the senate, but big slice of the republica party that has given up on democracy. it is so enamored by their leader, donald trump, that the are willing to throw democracy to the side, if that's wha necessary to keep their people in power and dictatorships look prett good if all you care about i power. you don't care about sel determination, democracy, an the vote and so that, i think, is the genesis of this affection fo putin and for xi, and i thin that is leading to some of his republican critique of our involvement in ukraine not all of, it but some of it. we have to go into debate with republicans. eyes wide open about what part of their motivation it is. >> dictatorships look good whe you're the dictator. that's all i'm going to say. not for everybody else senator chris murphy, thank you, as always, for your time tonight. great to see you

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and some video content is gold like this video content. the president of the unite states and members of hi cabinet swashbuckling gian swords at the state dinner i saudi arabia we really can't get enough o this video it was president trump's first foreign visit as president i 2017 trump's son-in-law, jare kushner, he was also on that trip and it turns, out he got t take some sorts home with him. this is one, engraved with pictures of a crescent moo because of - comes with its own custo scabbard, wrapped in sheets of gold the saudis gave this or to jared kushner as a gift when h visited the country in 2017 an it is priced at around 50 $400 the saudis gifted kushner second sword for good measure. it sort of looks like the on trump was dancing with, and it is valued at around $3,000 and look, jared kushner is not the first government officia to receive a lavish gift from

foreign official gift giving is a weird part of diplomacy. but a gift from a foreig leader does not belong to th government official. it belongs to the government and all government employees including the president, are required by law to report to the state department exactly what was given to them, who is from, and then turn it over to the national archives fo safekeeping. and it turns, out when jared kushner took those sorts fro saudi arabia, he never officially reported the gift t the state department, which wa not only a jared kushner problem. democrats on the house oversight committee released this report today about th handling of foreign gift during the trump administration and according to the report, donald trump and his famil failed to report over 100 gift from foreign countries worth a grand total of nearly $300,000 and it really is an od assortment of stuff, like this 12,000 dollar silk carpet from the president of uzbekistan,

and this giant box filled with tableware from the president o lebanon, in case donald trum president trump ever ran out o spoons also this portrait given t ivanka trump, made out o mother of pearl mosaic tiles and this fake diamond encruste falcon from kuwait, which is sitting on a sort of creep severed faulconer's hand also, inexplicably, this statu of pumpkins. someone must be a big pumpki fan in the trump white house all of these gifts were give to president trump and members as of his family by foreig governments, and all of them plus 100 or so more, wheneve reported to the government a required by law. the national archives -- has since got their hands on most of these items, though it remains unclear how many wer returned before trump left office and how many were returned after he left office. but there are still two item that are missing, including 7000 dollar set of golf club from japan, and what i described as a larger than lif sized painting of donald trump

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u.s. capitol police that the found out that fox news host tucker carlson would get acces to january 6th capitol surveillance footage the sam way we all did, from a new report the capitol police also said that house republicans ignored the police departments repeate request to approve securit footage prior to its release according to a sworn affidavit filed today as part of the january six criminal case, the capitol police general counsel said that 40 of the 40 clips shown on tucker carlson's show earlier this month only on clip was approved, because i was similar to one shown a trump's second impeachment trial. we should know the capitol police also's say impeachmen managers did not clear some of the clips shown of that tria either

tucker also news the capitol surveillance footage to spin a narrative the jerry sixth wa peaceful, but video evidence i a separate filing, again thi week, showed yet another momen from that day that was far fro calmer it shows just how close rioter were to iowa senator chuck grassley, as officers rushed him off the main floor of th capital. senator grassley, third in lin to the presidency that day told politico, i wasn't awar of any event they just said we've got to ge you out of here. while senator grassley initially criticize trump fo his actions on january six, he eventually accepted trump' endorsement and had trump stum for him at a campaign rall last november. when grassi was axed about the insurrection last summer, he responded, let go, let god today speaker mccarthy was forced once again to defend hi decision to give carlson acces says to that footage, insistin he asked capitol police to fla their concerns about the video but the speaker has so far sai little about his instrumenta role in the apparent attempt t whitewash the events of that day. joining us now is brendan buck former top aide to republica speakers paul ryan and joh boehner and an msnbc political

analyst. always good to see you, an happy st. patrick's day to you >> and to you. >> thank you being one 16th irish as i am let me first ask you, as someone who is experienced i the speaker's office, to wha degree it is the speaker's office heed the request of the capitol hill police? >> it's a really important point. the capitol police work for th speaker of the house and i think we should be ver clear about that but ultimately it is the speaker of the house's responsibility to keep the capital safe, and you work ver closely with the capital polic in this job, and it's somethin i don't think most peopl appreciate and it's so hard fo me having sat in the speaker's office for two different speakers to imagine that the capitol police would just be ignored over something s high-profile, something so sensitive. frankly, something so stupid, don't understand why they di this in the first place. especially after everythin

that the capitol police have been through how sensitive this is, the morale issues that the capitol police are going through, to ignore them for something like this is remarkable to me i can't really even fathom it. but it obviously shows tha this was not their priority. basically from execution t strategy, everything about thi has been a disaster for kevi mccarthy >> you use the words stupid an disastrous to describe thi decision do you think kevin mccarth understood at the time what he was doing? i mean, this seems to be par of the devils bargain he mad with the far right wing maga caucus in his conference, an so he knew, he knew what he wa doing. but do you think h miscalculated the fallout from all of this? >> perhaps i think kevin mccarthy's marti up to understand that this i not good politics for him. but yeah, why are we talking about this at all? why are house republican trying to relitigate january six in the first place

we know from the last election this is an enormous politica loser. but it is because marjorie taylor greene and other hous republicans insisted that he d this, and so he did. and i kind of hope that all th bargaining that went on to get the speakership would be the end of the silliness, but it clearly, this is something h felt like it's something he ha to follow through on it's an enormous political loser. but hopefully you could turn i around hopefully you can tell someone like marjorie taylor greene, don't go visit people who ar being held for charges, fo rioting in the capital, whic is apparently what they want t do next. this is not something you want to keep bringing up. the really the only purpose, the only person who is helpe by this is don trump and i don't know why house republicans feel like that i something they want to spend 8 political capital on havin him. >> they clearly seem in thrall to the five members were effectively giving kevin mccarthy the speaker's gavel

and determined it was thos five members are pogo starting marjorie taylor greene and mat gates and lauren boebert and maybe one or two others. but the fact of the matter is, the january six saga is no ending the reality is, the doj came out this week and said they ar giving d. c. federal court ahead up, a heads up, that there are more than 1000 additional people who coul still face charges i connection with the jansing to attacks. and then you have the jack mitt special counsel investigation into president trump's role in january 6th. and who knows? that could and in criminal charges. and yet when you ask republicans about january six, you either go, you either ge let go, let god, from grassley who was very much in harm's way, jim risch, senator from ohio said i don't do interviews o the january six, sorry, idaho, but thanks they have no line. they just don't want to talk about it it is not going away. how does the party ultimatel

formulate its response to this in a way that is not a lie >> i wish that they were jus trying to let it go away but they're trying to bring it back up, and that's my biggest problem. it wasn't even a cleve argument that tucker carlson made we have heard this from some cookie house republicans before, this wasn't a big deal i don't know who you are tryin to convinced that this wasn't big deal, other than people wh only live in that sort of medi bubble on the right or peopl who are die hard for donal trump. you just look silly trying t say that this was not a bi deal maybe worse than silly you look craven in some ways but at the end of the day yeah this is not going away it's still front and center fo a long time, and if your position as a party that thi was okay, look, what happene with these videos, the rea risk here, i don't think his security i think it's a propaganda. it's convincing people that yo

can continue to do more stuf like this and this was okay. it just cements a party that cannot be taken seriously. and at some point you need leaders to step in and say marjorie taylor greene isn't setting the agenda for us an we need to act like adults >> indeed. brandon, i know that being her on friday night on st. patrick's day is not how you thought you would be spendin this day or this evening, and deeply appreciate your tim tonight. have a pint on me, my friend >> absolutely. thank you. >> thanks for your time. we will be right back. ♪ ♪ get directv with a two year price guarantee.

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okay, then colin's list notably does no include the rainbow pride flag this is after florida, the state passed the don't say gay law. and that, in fact, may ver well be the whole point of thi legislation, at least that i what many of its opponents suspect. now the exemption for th confederate flag, that was pulled from consideration le less than 24 hours after was filed, and that is because according to senator collins office, the amendment was draft and it was filed in error, and any insinuation that collins might be a confederate sympathizer is disgusting. there was no further explanation about how the flag of the confederate states ende up on the list of exemptions but that sure seems like a gigantic typo, if that was wha it was former democratic state senate minority leader fenian joiner, who led the fight to get the confederate flag removed fro florida's official seal, had this to say about colin' mistake quote, i don't befor second that was done in error. how do you erroneously filin amendment?

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