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the reid out starts next. tonight oni] the reid out. >> while i do not believe i did anything illegal orçó every thought i was doing #v3q!%9 illegal, i did an awful, awful lot that was wrong and there is no one else responsible for my sins. >> as we await news of a possible trump indictment, let's recall the case of john d the rich and powerful democratic politician who was indicted for something similar allegedly breaking campaign finance laws after a tawdry affair. also tonight, a fox producer accuses thexdxd network of coer herfá into providing misleading testimony in the dominion lawsuit as a judge begins hearing pretrialfá arguments. plus,x#uq' indictments are announced after sheriff's deputies pinned a 28-year-old in

handcuffs onfá the ground untile was dead.çóñi we begin tonight, but we begin tonight by stating the obvious. it is tuesday. the day thatr president told america he would be arrest and charged by thee1e manhattan district attorney. clearly that hasn't happened yet. and if and when it does, it would be historic. the first time a former president has ever been indicted. but there's axd larger issue he. that this former president may finally, finally face criminal accountability. see, trump has rarely been held accountable for his shady behavior from stiffing contractors back in his real estate days to his alleged sexual misconduct with nearly 30 women to his impeachment, for trying toxd blackmail the ukrainian president and a coup. as been prelkted nt and a coup.

and rewarded. those in the republican party who had!u■ objections just look others enkwourj couraged his behavior. this man literally fueledu violence siege on or capitol and most of the republican.ljñ part just shrugged it off or called it a regular tourist visit, and yet what alvin bragg is doing is note1 abnormal. it is not a political witch hunt. his crimes eventually. in healthy democratic societies, leaders are held accountable and there are pl( across thee1çó globe. nicolas sarkozy was found guilty of several crimes. guess what. they sentenced him to jail. in israel, prime minister netanyahu was indicted in 2019 for bribery, fraud, ande1 breac of trust. and in true trump style, he ran

for his old officeç(pt(r'w3 and won. he's now trying to rewrite the judiciary system so he doesn't have to face accountability. in italy,e1 the former prime minister and current member of the far right coalitione1 leadi italy wase1ó[■ acquitted ofxd b over his infamous sex parties. in his entire e1career, he has faced 35 criminal court cases. he was found guilty in only one. holding politicians accountable isi] not abnormal. what is is a former president who summons a mob to fight like hell after a majority of american voters held him5a■ accountable for the failures of his presidency by voting him out. frankly, it is no surprise that trump is returning to his usual playbook. posting erratic calls for his supporters to protest his potential indictment. now is it a surprisee1 he is deploying the same antisemitic posts on his third rate twitter. something his buddies are more

kevine1 mccarthy said trump doe not literally want his supporters to have a protest, but there's an increase in violent rhetoric. almost all of new york's law enforcement entities are taking the threats of violenceq more seriously than ef8arthy is. new york state court officers, u.s. secret service, terrorist task force and manhattan d.a.'s office are set to be involved in securityfáe1 preparation. according to cbs, the nypd deployed river patrol, helicopter surveillance, s.w.a.t. team and armored vehicles to block access to certain streets. additionally, nbc 4 is reporting that all nypd officers of every rank have been ordered to dress in full uniform and preparet( f deploymente1 starting today. joining me now is tracy, former cia officer. david k johnson,çó founder

d.c.report.org. and tara, senior adviser to the lincoln project. i want to start with you, tracy, because it is not unusual. we tried to make that point. people have been indicted. it happens all over the world. the south korean former leader was indicted. it happens. but what's not normal is for a president have already demonm4tpáed he's willing to foment violence on his5a■ own behalf. talk about the security demonstrations and do you think it ise1 ñrappropriate. >> sure. thank you so much for having me. i think this is absolutely appropriate. there's a few things that i'm concerned about. i know that the intelligence community has kind of been split on this. some have reported that there is no directed threat and there probably isn't. we're notxd going to see someon get on social media saying this is what we're going to do. this is how we're going to do it

and this is when we're going to do it. that's not going to happen. however, we have to take any sense of chatter that we see seriously and so what i'mq concerned about is even if some of theselp groups have lanes, im worried that mar-a-lago may have served as sort of an impetus for some of these organizations recruitinge1ñi radicalsw3 into ranks because that event was sort of a catalyst inb going after the president. and i'm worried about soom of the inpupáu)ucture surrounding new york city. their roadways, tollways, tunnels, bridges. i think that's something law enforcement is really going to look at protecting because of that could descend on manhattan. i think also they're doing a áqp&ly good job from what i can tell of monitoring chatter on all those different platforms. facebook, instagram, zello,e1eo

way that truckers speak to each other. another thing i'm seeing that's really important is intelligence is being passed between agencies. it's going to have to work in conjunction with the fbi, with theht■ manhattan d.a., withlp n really making a coordinated effort to take these threatsi] seriously. so that's what i'm most concernedq about. >> right and tara, you know there are thelp aleksandrs sayi i'm dpoipg to sit this one oute because it's been demonstrated it's theñr people at the bottom who go to prison and trump isn't going to protect them. but at the same time, you have republican leadership across the board from desantis to mccarthy throwing in those little tropes. you know. george tsiros. they're calling his name which we know when they say that, it's that jewish conspiracy antisemitic dog whistle.

so i wonder if you know your sense, what is your sense of the republican party sort of repeating thatjf history and th time joining trump in encouraging conspiratorialq thinking around prosecution. >> it's clear they'vexd learned nothing. right? i mean, january 6th, the four years of donald trump completely disregarding the constitution. trumpism is incongruent with the american constitutional system and yetçó a major party that ha been around since lincoln has disgraced themselves to the point where they are now actually okdefendinglp a criminality, obvisj criminality, and multiple, multiple cases. not just this one. there's multiple includingi] fomenting an insurrection against this country, which has never happened before. they have made the decision, this is the side they'reb.■ choosing. it's u listening to this conversation.

listen to what we're talking aboute1 here. we're talking about preparing for potential violent threatse1o by the former president's cult extremistq supporters. we're talking about this like it's normal. bute1 this is the stuff that we used to talk about worrying about al qaeda and threats to our country. we'ree1 talking about americ citizens who have been indoctrinated andfá activated b donald trump and kevin mccarthy and the leaders of the republican party who seem to think they can continue to manage maga, are continuing to give donald trump cover. so anyone who thinksfáñr that t party is somehow now on its way back to arguing over marginalth% tax rates, they are severely mistaken. straight down there in orlando straight down there in orlando uxu now, which is supposed to be about the budget and debt ceiling, things that actually

impact every day americans. no, that's not theirok agenda. they're too worried about dropping to their kneesok in su ver vi and making sure the king is!u■ u >> there have been like where there's been some accountability. you think back to the 1970s when he and his dad for puttinge1 fe for colors on applications andu got slapped5a■ down by the doj the 1970s. rent #:d%uzu back on them and attempting to throw them out. he settledfá lawsuits regarding this fake university. there's a fewe1 of them up on screen righte1 now. there's that $1.6 million fine for fraud. which is nothing really to him. but he's gotten away with a lot. january 6th being the biggest one. he's rarely paid taxes. he's cheating people.e1 obstruction of justice. classified documents. it strikes me that you know,

it's interesting that you report over the years on the thing that's changed for him is his relationship with this office. i want to read something to you. this is about his relationship with a guy named robert morgan. i'd love you to expound on. had a blind spot when it came to trump. one of his biggestw3 donors. in his final years, he witnessed a new blood lust. demonization of people immigrants and people of color and was taken aback. one morning in the spring before his death i asked hime1 what hi greatest fear was.tphe did not . trump. he basically kind of felt like he could get away with anything and now he's got that black prosecutor who might hold him into accounp[ñ that's got to be triggering. >> he did many great things with the manhattan d.a., but donald trump was a blind spot of hbcw■ it's not like authorities

haven't known. when donald had a casino license, he was up to his eyeballs doing favors for one of the biggest ht■international cocainee1 traffickers in americ whose case ended up in the courtroom with judge trump barry.cá' cf1 o the guy got to serve 18e1 month. his mules served 20 years.e1 so there's a long historyçó of donald not beingxd held accountable because he followed the counsel of the notorious cohen. he said if law enforcement comes dishonest. you attack, attack,róuáack. øyu■ never apologize, never concede. you attack. that's exactly what you're seeing here. one more thing, joy. let's be clear. donald trump goes around saying he loves america. donald trump doesn't love america. he loved america, he would have peacefully walked away when the voters rejected him. he's trying to become our dictator and we need to be clear about that. all the politicians who are

trying to make sure they don't get primaried by speaking up on donald's e1behalf, they are facilitating a man who wants to end our constitutional donald believes, that no one but he is competent to be president of the united states, which is 1 unbelievably laughable. >> yeah. and just quickly. he also is using like an old playbook sayingxd get him out. likeçó threatwnkng people that protested at his rallies and throwing really sortçóxd of rac barbs at people like latecia james. going after this judge saying he's hispanic, he can't judge me. how much do you think that hisu■ playbook is going to involve stoking those kind of pots along with the racism and how might that be >> it's central to what donald is doing now.

his appeal is going to be to the group of white people in america who believe they're under siege. let's understand this. they believe,e1 rightly or wrony and it's wrongly, that they are under sie,ñ by minorities and jews and/ that more than half of americans only made it sixth grade level and one in five at fifth grade level. they don't have the capacity to understand theçó complex world live in. >> and tracy, last word to you then on this. the fact that they keep throwin! does it feel like a dog whistle that is dangerous? >> it absolutely does. most of these groups, oath keepers, proud boys, they all subscribe to what you're referring to as the great replacement theory. the idea that the majority of the white population is being replaced7n'■ and this is why we thesexd spikes in racism. because they aree1 ascribing to

thist( belief and it's stoking this division. trump has for multiple years called for a civil war. and i thinkok that's really wha he's inferringe1 when he does that. that's why we're playing e1 whackamole with a lot of these ■ onlineñi threats. >> letting him do it. republican party is letting him do it. they stand by as if it'sçó okay. it's eñfiim■sing. they're helping him. >> yes. enabling. >>u tracy, david, tara, thank ywir % all very much. up next, rememberu john kerry's running mate in 2004. john edwards provides a perfect example of how high levelxd elected officials not named trump have been held accountable for misusing campaign funds. the reid out continues after this. taking charge of your health. so every day, you can say... ♪ youuu did it! ♪ with centrum silver. - [female narrator] five billion people

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for all thelp claims that i would be unprecedented5a■ to5a■t donald trump for hush money payments made on hisxd behalf, suspect john edwards would like a word. the former north carolina senator was john kerry's running mate in 2004 and ran for president himself in 2008. prior to that 2008 campaign, he had an affair and fathered a child withxd rielle hunter. wife, elizabeth, was battling a recurrence of breast cancer.

he dropped out of the race in earlyñie1 2008 and admitted to affair and fatheringçó hunter's daughter.t( six counts alleging he solicited nearly a million dollars frome1 politicalxd donors during the campaign to pay miss hunter off and conspire to cover up the contributions. the money was passed on by his campaign fina.!h chairman andeo billionaire heiress. during okedwards' 2012 trial, h defense argued the money was a gift meant to shield his wife who passed away in 2010, not to hide itw3 from voters. charge and failed to agree on o5 the other five resulting in a mistrial. the justice department declined to retry him. there are some key differences between edwards' case and

potential new york indictment of donald trump.5a■ for one, john edwards faced federal charges. trump so far has not. which begs the questioni]5a■ wh since his former lawyer, michael cohen, pleaded guilty to federal crimes. for his role in paying hush money to adult film actress, stormy daniels, to keep her quiet about her sexual affair with trump ahead of the 2016 election. joining me now is andrew weissman, msnbc legal analyst, former fbi general council ande former senior member of the mueller probe. i wawv■ to get into the reasons why the case against trump is state andok edwards was federal. we have some new news that's just come in from abc. speciale1 counsel claims trumpx deliberately misled his own attorneys about those classified documents. a judge had ruled that jack

smith's office showing the former president had committed criminal violations and that the attorney client privileged could be pierced, adding that f these lawyer, ng that was order-to hand overe1 a he described as trump's alleged in handwritten notes and transcription. now significant is that? >> i'm so glad you started with this because joy, this could be essentially the ball game forar bringing a case against the former president for obstructing the mar-a-lago documentsu investigation. why do i say that? just to remind people mr. certiqpáion that said all documents had been returned andu didn't exist at mar-a-lago. we now know that certification was false. it was not true that allu

documents had been returned because a search was done and lo and behold there were documents all over the place including in trump's own office. so the issue that the department's trying to get as is who told mr. cochran, the lawyer, the information that's in thexd certification? and howell ruled the way she ruled exactly the same way in the manafort case, w⌝bñ i handled, saying if a client is using a lawyer to commit a crime, there is no attorney client privilege. and mr. cochran has to testify about who told him that the documents have all been retm$[■ and she went further according to thisw3i] reporting and said notes, recordings, beçó turned over. mr. cochran was apparently in the grand jury yesterday in d.c. responding to the prosecutors questions. so what happened in the çómanaft

case i suspect is going to happen here, which is the lawyer completely gaveñi it up and sai paul manafort told me exactly what to say and i repeated it to the government$$u$at lawyer had notes of everything that had been told to her by mr. manafort which she then repeated to us. so he's going to be in the same position. that is goingc4vt what i think is really devastating evidence if he, you have his own lawyer saying i learned this and that is just a plain case of obstruction. >> and u case ofe1 donald trump inxd thi state case is different from the federal case in that michael cohen, who was the lawyer and got federal charges, he went to jail for trump. he committed perjury for trump.

all the claims they're trying tr impeach him on he did it for take the fall. this is where you had a lawyer who took the fall for doing the hutch money payment. so my question to you or a federal prosecutor, andrew, ise how in the world is this dumpml on the state of new york? because donald trump is not facing federal charges.e1 mr. burrman let him offq the hok because bill barr wanted him to. why is this alvin bragg's problem at all. why isn't it federal like it was for edwards? michael cohen? >> yeah. these are pw11e we know the answer with respect to bill barr. because barr said çóhey, if thas trump, stop. so he actually interceded when he took over from attorney general sessions. we don't know with respect to garland.

there are a number of reasons from the nefarious to the innocent as to why that may be happening andq could be lack of backbone. it could be a concern about what happened in the edwards case because just to remember in the edwards case, there was a defense which was as you alluded to, which was i wasn't doing this for campaigni] reasons. i was doing7 wouldn't knjp!out this. so in manye1 ways, the state charge of false business records doesn't require bragg to get into that whole can of worms. in some ways, bragg has ae1e1 cleaner road to not raise all the issues that were a little murky in the edwards case. but i do@ugr'k onefá thing that important about the edwardse1 ce is it shows thee1 department of justice is willing to go after republicans and democrats. now there's this whole idea they're politicized. hogwash. you know what we care about when i was in the department?

it's like did someonet( commit crime? it doesn't matter whether they're an r ore1 d. if you did something bad, you should bet(e1 held accountable it and edwards is a good example of that. i think bragg has an easier road in manyñi ways. >> yeah. but the thing is you know who the attorney general was? folks at home. it was eric holder. so he e1never, they're both democrats and so there is like as you said, one more thing. the edwards case, the reason it seems to be that he actually was able to be cleared on this is thatzv■ theser in donald trump's case, we're talking within months before the election. this seems so open and shut. it's shocking to me that the 5a■ fdny that thought cohen was a big criminal gave him three years for this. as you said, said you know what,

i'm going to leave that alone. he's the one it was for. >> yeah. we've seen that attorney general garland you know may not have been anxious toe1 look backward and was trying to look q'dakm i'm not saying that's the right thing to do, butq i do think do now is in the right place in terms of you know, having a very robust investigation. >> and thise1 one here, this on printed out for me before this, this is the one. the feds may be waking back up because on this document saying the lawyers are telling. andrew, here we go.ñi thank you very much. still ahead, anybody else find itt( fascinating, trump involve in attacking the grand juryq as politically motivated instead of on the merits of the case? on the merits of the case? i wonder why that is.l-;a5=irue. so you have a home with no worries. brought to you by adt.

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house republican retreat in florida was supposed to focus on how to maintain their razor thin majority, but instead, donald trump and his never ending controversye1 suckedw3 the oxyg out of the room. the party's response to the expected indictment, the manhattan d.a. leading the probe. >> the tough part is withe1 a local d.a. playing in presidential politics, if that starts rigq&ñ there, don't you thinke1xd it will happen across country? >> this is a bunch of bs.

he's a george jfe1soros prosecu. he can't take the heat so the guy's yielding -- >> being from new york, i think alvin bragg in particular is the most radical d.a. you can get to. he fronted him over a millik dollars and we have this significant crime crisis inu york5a■ state. >> just so you know, the use of his fund to blast au prosecutor is deeplyok rooted i antisemitism. ronu bill to curb it also invoked him. >> they ignore crime andu crimq that hurts peopde% @r(t&háhp &h% every single)xday. the district attorneys are a menace to society. >> dog whistle. they're demanding bragg testify to congressfá on thee1 possible indictment. a spokesperson promptly responded sayinge1xd wee1 will

intimidated norxd let baseless accusations deter us from aplaying thee1 law. quite the week to start a newñi show. you picked a good one. there's a few things going on out there. >> it'sewan interesting news season. let's get into it. i want to start byñi just getti your comment and whether this is going to be in your show. we're just going to change your a block rightñi now. abc, this abcñr news drop that apparently donald trump's former attorney is talking and handing the, a judge in the case, judge howell, apparently has ruled that they have made the case, jack smith's office. thate1 attorney client privileg doesn't apply. they want those documents and that donald trump may have lied to his own attorneys about the documents he stole5a■ and kept

mar-a-lago. your thoughts? >> not surprising at all. i wish that wasn't my immediate reaction, that donald trump was lying about what he was doingu with what he was doing with classified documents and lying it seems like we're seeing a lot of cya from people who are qqi themselves in this.5a■ but certainly these are another thread to pull. even as we're following this d.a. case so closely this week to see if an indictment comes down, it's important to remember there's a whole host of other legal problems trump has and this is justt(xd another kind o sight into it. >> to somebody with so much experience dealing with two presidential administrations, working in the state department. i would love to get your thoughts on this. what donald trump is doing and what alló[■çó these republicansr includingçó stepanik is they're throwing that antisemitic bomb, which is very dangerous.

and we've seene1 spikes in antisemitism throughout the e1 country, butçó attacking soros d bragg putting them together and then saying crime, which to me is just saying black people and jews. if■k someone was doing that in oo country, we would call thate incitement. what do we call it when members of our country are doing it? >> we should call it a version i think as you started your show running through, what we're calling for people to protest, targeting the manhattan d.a., that is whatu the reason why people are so outraged5a■ in israel at netany is because of his attempts, his desire to overhaul the judiciary and there are so many cases of this happening around the world. his behavior and what he's doing here isfá more like putin.

it's more like netanyahu than it is like a leader that we would historically see in the united states andfá as you noted importantly, these dogu which just keep coming out of every republican's mouth, it's like trump sentlp this bsignal out to people. go after the d.a. use the most offensive language you can because the more offensive you are, the more you'llc rewarded ine1 some way. that's the danger of how his rhetoric creates a snowball.ok >> netanyahu, they're very tight. they both don't seem to be too mad at añi little violence agaiá a minority group, palestini @s in israel palestine. there is a sort of line of thinking. george conway came out and said this idea of a -w] which i thin fore1 a lotjf of law enforcemen they're nervous about what that might doe1 to donald trump. george conway's take was maybe he wants that. this sortxd of theatrical momen of putting up hise1 two nixon

fingers and walk into prison as advertising for his campaign. what do you makei] ofó[■ that? >> i don't know if i agree with that one. i know we think trump is playing dimensional chess -- >> i think he can barely play checkers. >> this is more of a checkers take. with handcuffs or withouts7■ th makes him look smaller to me. if he is now talking about how big and bad theok manhattan d.a is and how he's being unfairly targeted and sending out his ba■ signal, that's a place where he thinks he'sxdi] powerful. if he is not in control and he's being locked by law enforcement, handcuffed or not, to ñrme9a th makes him look smaller and i can't imagine evenñi with all their chess and checkers playing that that feels like a good visual even to the trump people. >> youre1 show, i want yto give me your insider thoughts.ñi do you think the movement by the

d.a. in new york, i know they're not supposed toçó reallyfá resp to the things each other does, do you think that makese1w3 mer garland stand up more and make jack smith say you know fáwhat, we're not just going to let thiá pwe need to stepe1 up. do you think there's that kind of thinking insidelp doj? >> i don't think they look at i1 from that prism. they're going tow3e facts of their owne1 cases and sometimes the timeline of that can be inconvenient, right? because i think i agree wit/] te argument that some of theseç'ip% other cases would beei)t(árq) t argue in the publice1 forum. but that's not how trq judicial system works. nor should it be how it works. so i think jack smith, merrick garland, they've got their nose to the grindstone and they're working on their cases but i don't think they're looking for signals from the d.a. >> we will be watchingu out as will you, jent( psaki.

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legal troubles coming to a head, let's not lose sight of the other s@q institution in legal jeopardy. that of course is fox and the $1.6 billion defamation suit brought against the company by dominion votinge1 systems. today,ñi attorneys for both sid faced off in a delaware courtroom in an5a■ attempt to persuade the judge to rule on the caseñi before itu trial next month, with dominion's lawyers points to hosts and executives privately acknowledging the claims /#(çó widespread voter fraud were not true as proof of defamation. lawyers for fox on the other hand arguedç(áhey are completel protected by the first amendment. it all■÷ comes as a producer fo en and maria bartiromo is suing the company. and host of the katie fang show. let's start quickly from the

sortçó of case ongoing today. this is what thexd dominion lawr said. we have their own wordsñi in fa they knew they were false and in some cases, recklessly disregarding the truth. >> it is and what the judge heard today in a delaware courtroom, joy, is not something he hasn't already read. at a summary judgment hearing, all the evidence that's going to be presented has already done so in the legal filings that have been filed with the court. so what does that mean? we know and my sources have told me basically the judge didn'te1 finish, but he was going to give everybody as much time as possible to do so which means everybody comes back tomorrow. he one way or the other. the law is black inu which is what you can and can't do.xd but the real nuance that we're looking at is whether or noté@■

judge wants to say i don't need a jury to hear this anymore. another question (u came from the judge today, the lawyersq skd would say we're going to take it out of the jury's hands.76o if the jury gets it it wout8 be april 17th andlp 1800 juror questionnaires have already been sent out. >> this is abby grossberg. i read through her filing. it was a litany. roger ales wasn't even doing his job. all he was doing was chasing women around fox studios trying toxd make them have sex with hi. she talked ant the atmosphere she faced there. there are texts where she talked about the audience didn't wante to hear a peaceful transition. 3 day, this is according to her lawsuit, misse1 grossberg discovered theok show was

decorated with a large picture of nancy pelosii] wearing a plunging swimr later that fall, she said before an appearance by tutor dixon, miss carlson's staff tells a mock debate about whether they would prefer to have sex with áuáy she alleges that was the kind of atmosphere she experienced. red indicating, what is really bad about this lawsuit are gonna stay within the lane of these allegations are hostile work environment, was the fox was supposed to have fixed that problem after the whole thing

was taken care of and there is a myriad of multi million dollar payments were made, flax was most affix that hostile work environment and make it better. but this abby grossberg is very interesting. we saw her in the dominion lawsuit. she, being a booking for tucker carlson working for maria bartiromo and said that no, we actually didn't gate keep it. we knew it wasn't true but we put these guests on anyway and we let them say what they were going to say, knowing they were going to spread false information about dominion and spread the big lie. now she is saying she supports by fox lawyers to say exactly what she said in her depot, so it makes you think, this helps dominion. they all knew the whole time but she felt like she had to sit there and say something to help her employer. now she has been put on administrative, i think, leave or she has been told to go away from the network, but ultimately if she can prove her case, she is trying to save her own credibility, because she has been dragged through the mud because of that dominion lawsuit. >> she's like an actual

journalist. do you think dominion ends up calling her? as a witness? >> well, that's really quickly, i will let you know. we filed for trial lawyers and this actually oral arguments today in court, joy, about whether or not witnesses from foxes would be forced to testify live in that trial in april. not only would abby grossberg be obligated as one of those witnesses, some other, paul ryan, what do they say about somebody like rupert murdoch, quote? he doesn't know anything but you and i know we have seen those texts and their deputies to money that he does but he also says it's too hard for him to go. but enjoy, he's getting married for the sixth time, so he's getting married but can't go to trial? >> [laughter] and who are these people marrying these people? okay, katie, thanks. up next, notice released surveillance video shows the month before of her virginia

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prosecutors today showing the final moments of this man's life. he died in custody at a virginia state psychiatric hospital every several officers and medical staff appear to pile on top of the 28-year-old black man for what appears to be 11 minutes before he stopped moving. seven officers and three hospital workers have been

charged with murder. nbc's catie beck has the latest. a warning, what follows is difficult to watch. >> the actions of seven virginia sheriff's deputies and three hospital workers on march 6th captured on camera. images of 28 year old i've all otieno's last hours alive. >> this life was mostly to him like. this is >> transported from jail to a mental hospital where prosecutors say he was smothered to death during intake. a grand jury meeting today. it >> took about three hours and they came back with ten indictments. what does that say to you? >> it says to me that these nine man and one woman's mother and my son. >> the video, released by the prosecution, which doesn't have sound, shows ortieno this intake at the hospital. and for 19 deputies watch kim into an admissions room. ortieno, appears to be handcuffed, his angles in

shackles. ever leaning him against the chair, minutes later deputies and hospital staff pile on top of him until about 4:40. ortieno then seen unresponsive, chest compressions begin. >> is the patient aggressive or is he not? >> now, he used to be aggressive, so they're trying to put him in restraints. eventually he is no longer breathing. >> emergency crews alert arrived at 508 and continues to attempt to revive ortieno, but 5:48, it is too late. one events attorney, disappointed by the released videos, saying it can -- a jury and saying his client has limited contact with ortieno. >> he acted in concert, quite frankly, is a stretch of the imagination. >> but ortieno this family, haunted by unrelenting grief and the question, why? >> i call his name every day. >> several defense attorneys in