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da, playing in presidential politics that starts right there but don't you think it will happen across the country? it is obvious this is a sham what happened? president trump announces he's running for reelection and says i am now we will do it. >> it's disgusting it's terrible for our country it is. bad for america generally. >> disability epitomized a shun of the weaponization of the federal government and the departments against political opponents. it will blow up in our country this is a bunch of bs as donald trump faces a potentially, historic indictment,

republicans rally to his defense. the fear among those republicans seems to be this indictment will help trump shore up his base in the republican presidential primary but heading into this tumultuous moment most republican voters were already expressing some reservations about trump as a candidate. and nbc news poll from earlier this year, found that only 33% of republican primary voters say they support trump more than they support the republican party. 62% say they support the party over donald trump. so are republicans making a mistake when they assume that defending trump is their only option? joining me now stuart stevens former chief strategist for the mid-wrongly for president campaign in 2012 he is now what the lincoln project, and is the author of it was all a lie. how the republican party became donald trump stewart's events thank you for joining the program. given the title of the book i wonder where do you think the party stands at this moment? certainly there are some 33% of the gop are trump die hards.

but what about that 62%? the ones that will witness the unfolding of, potentially, a historic criminal indictment. where do you think this leaves them in their support for donald trump? >> i think that poll is a bit misleading. the republican party has become donald trump. so it's not really much of a choice. there is no anti trump movement of any size in the republican party what happens if you oppose trump? you are liz cheney they threw cheney out of the party. so it's an easy thing to say i don't support donald trump i support the party more but really you are saying the same thing look this is where the republican party has ended up. it began when they accepted donald trump, when donald trump went out and called for a muslim ban in december of 2015 everyone knew, in the party that if the party stood for anything, it was the constitution. this was a religious test, they

knew it, but they didn't stand up to trump. there was this thing the republican party used to say when i worked in that character counts. that was right. this is now all unfolding. it is just beginning. the majority of the republican party does not believe that joe biden is legally elected president. play that out? what does it mean? it means they lived in an occupied country that not only gives them a reason to do whatever it takes, but for some, it gives them an obligation. i think this is just the beginning. i think the republican party is shameful, in not standing up for the rule of law which is what this is. the reason there is a former president being indicted is because the republican party nominated and elected, a criminal. it's no more complicated than that. one of the things that trump has been saying in recent days is if they can get me they can

get you. can you unpack that a little for me? why do you think that is so resident with the gop in this particular moment? >> it's all about grievance. the organizing principle of the republican party now is fear thick about it. it is fear of the horrors coming over the border it is fear of the rapist, and the criminals are coming from mexico. it is fear that there are these large powerful forces in the world that control you the party wants to believe -- when ronald reagan was president if you are born in america, you won lifes lottery. there are inequalities in america, but no one was disadvantage for being american. now it's turned on its head and trump, to be born in america means you are a victim. you are a chump. to powerful forces. so once you fall into this

victims mentality that is what trump is rallying for. really it's all about race. it's always been about race. when they tried to haul the votes that they said were illegal on january 6th, 57% of the party voted to not certify the election where where they? atlanta. detroit. philadelphia. why were they suspect? because they were predominantly african american votes. you know the country is headed to become a minority majority party there is nothing the republican party can do to stop that. what you are seeing here is playing out is an attempt to stop the inevitable. instead of doing what the party should have done, which is to do the hard work to appeal to non white voters they have gone the other way. it is officially a white grievance party. >> do you think there is of any room for other republicans to

criticize trump in this hour at all? i'm looking at governor ron desantis who is with a wink and not mentioning the phrases porn star, and hush money as much as he could this week. do you think you will be punished for that even though he wasn't, outright criticizing trump? just a nod to the absurdity and tawdry-ness of what's happening here? >> you know the test here will be will ron desantis say that joe biden won a free and fair election the fact that we are even talking about that -- he hasn't even said that. he said that joe biden -- he accepts that joe biden is president. so they have to stand up to trump if they're going to try to say that the party needs to go in a different direction but they won't do it. mitch mcconnell won't even say donald trump's name. they are all saying they will support donald trump if he is the nominee. even after what happened on january 6th.

even when we know that russians backed him. so what do you do with that? i just don't see how there is any definition of patriotism or putting the country first. it's putting the party first for power. >> stuart stevens former republican consultant with the dire prognosis for the gop. thank you for your time tonight i really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> we will be right back. that orders fresh beans for you. oh, genius! for more breakthroughs like that... ...i need a breakthrough card... like ours! with 2.5% cash back on purchases of $5,000 or more... plus unlimited 2% cash back on all other purchases! and with greater spending potential, sam can keep making smart ideas... ...a brilliant reality! the new ink business premier card from chase for business. make more of what's yours. ♪ ♪ get directv with a two year price guarantee.

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tonight, related to the manhattan da man hush money investigation. cnn reports tonight communications between stormy daniels and her lawyer, currently defending donald trump are now in the hands of the manhattan da. daniel says, the exchanges between daniels and current trump roller, joe tacopina dates back to 2018 when daniel approached tacopina about representing her. these communications raise the possibility the tacopina could be sidelined, for now, in turn

from defending trump. he denies that there is a conflict of interest and says he neither met with, north spoke, with daniels. stay tuned that's it for us tonight now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening lawrence. >> good evening >> of course there's video of him all over the world why drive saying hey it sounds like what michael cohen did was a serious crime with donald trump. i guess that is video that donald trump didn't see before hiring him >> yes exactly. now, alvin bragg has the communications between stormy daniels, and joe tacopina, which