good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york xdlpcity. it's the d.a.i] versus d.c. district attorney alvin bragg unleashes on his republican critics for what hexd calls an unlawful and unprecedented attempt to meddle in donald trump's prom%pu+jjjy the latest on that and developments in noti] one, not two, but three investigations against the former presid'6á■. ÷rñ plus, 13 years after he

famously described it as a big effing xd"eal, president bidenñ set to speak any minute noid on the anniversary of the affordable care act. we'll have that for you livexdl when it begins. there you see nancy pelosi. andb.■ schools in afghanist1 reopening, but without millions of girls allowed in the classroom, how the international community is trying to forceg of congress. his çófive-page response to the gop accusations that any trump indictment would be an u unprecedented abuse of bragg's authority. what does braggfá say about it? congress is the one overstepping its authority, unlawfully

interfering with state prosecutor enforcing state law. e, big newse1i]xdq g state law. on another case against donald trump after annxaam■ courtj ordered trump's own lawyer tor hand over information related to it's a decisione1 that really oy makes sense if the judgesñájjz that information could amount to evidence of a crime, so a lot to talk about, and i want to bring in fánbc's garrett haake outsid% the i]d.a.'s office in new york city.p,■ vaughn hillyard outside mar-a-lago in westñr palm beach and charles coleman is a civil rights attorney, fi prokauq=i1ñ andçó@&cnbc legal analyst here with me on set.q q1ñ five pagesñr basically to reject lawmakers' reques$'y for testimony. tell ?sf more aboutfáq that. xd chri letter was unusual because it was on time.+■i] my day job covering congress,fá almost nobody meets a congressional deadline to respond to afá letter like this unless it has a!5%áu!poena attached tou

second, i'm doing my job"n■ó[■ investigating a po:% q%1■ crime in this qeqráu)ict, and g you're really only paying attentiontúqo this because donad trump falsely claimed that he would be arrested the day after you sent your letter. sofá you can think of this as aq legal brushback pitch to congress here trying to buy some time for the d.a. i do not expect #&á republicans to drop this issue. in fact, i would not be surpris. subpoena bragg to secure his or his office's cooperation here. you see that the d.a.'s office here is taking a prettyi] force% tone of theirt(ñr own. we're doing our job. this is none of your business, back off basically. >> yeah, charw&ey that's definitely the message, but let me ahead to you a chunk of >!rt letter, what alvin bragg had to say. 7# trust that youl) importanceñ of our federal system, state law enforcement activities and the critical need to maintain thep,■ integrity an the independence of state

criminal law enforcemerv■ from federal interference. the d.a.'sq office will not allw a congressional investigation tá impede thet(p,■ exercise of new york's sovereign police power, presumably their pt3ráionñ is it clear#x$ho's right here?lp >> it is clear, and i think that alvin bragg's officer right. they could have summed all ofqx that up in four words, stay in your lane. our lane here is tomy■ investig the potential crimes and put before the grand jury different offensive that donald trump and anyone else for that u kpui%m q%=91jeu commerce, allñr of those things that fall within thet( power an f congress. he's being very clear about drawing a line in the sand. number one, this is notu

while the grand jury is meeting, they're not meeting about the trump case. explain what's going on. iñchris,!u■ i wish i could explain in more detail, but the fact of the matter is we [p@ave so few. the grand jury is meeting on the fourth floor of the d.a.'s office behind me where they are typically every monday and thursday, sometimes on wednesdays as well, but our sources say they'reñr not deali sources say they'reñr not deali with the trump case today. it's just impossible tot( know r sure what thexd causer i think we have been working on a time line that may have been artificially sped up by t0eb former president insistent that this weekxdñr would be the week.

the grand jury's going to move the grand jury's going to move at its own pace, and like so the issue is just two months prior trump's own attorney had

there's atpp)ime fraud exceptio that was granted. usually there's client attorney privilege, but what the court said is perhaps he is e1aware o conversations that existed, and he may have even potentially been directed by donald trump to sign off and suggest that all of the relevantçóxd classified documents had been turned xdove. justice is now going to try to get to the bottom of here by bringing evan corcoran in andxd getting him to testify and turn testimony by former vice president mike pence over

i think that ultimately what the court is looking at in termsxd blocking anything wheth'+ñ it's executiá0yprivilege, whether it is the attorney/client privilege, all of theseq things are xdñiconnected, basically no they don't attach because thato is not allowed. you're allowed to have your attorney basically represent you, to advise you, do those things, but you're not allkq" to use your lawyers to help you make decisions that are basically going to be criminal in nature. and i think that's what we're talking about with both of'ñxdxe

situations involving corcoran. if the coul4$t)tj there's, again, another example of thati taking place with respect to this conversation aroundt( mike pence and the interferencei]t( the election, we could end up in the same place. >> you also write about thejf mentality inside thee1 former president's so-called war room, including thatlp of trump himse. what did you find out? >> reporter: and chris, there is little that they can do structurally asi] part of the grand jury's t(proceedings, oth than try to play this out politically and garnerñ1 the support of other republicans, national republicans, gather th1 supports of voters around the country, and try to impugn the reputation offá the district attorney, alvin bragg. and that's exactly what they're do! donb÷

ly called for the outright removal of not only alvin bragg from the manhattan district c called for the removal of jack smith, the special counsel, the department of ?;■justice. he's called for 2( removal of %-pdistrict attorney, and he's called for thexd removal of letitia e1çójames, theçó new yo attorney general. all fourx are att(qxd the forefront of th serious investyftions into him. >> charles, you're staying with us, i want to go to the whitel house now where the president is speaking on the 13th anniversary of obama care. take a r >> health care legislation, the creation of medicare and medicaidxd 1965.+■ i talked to the president q yesterday, got a chance to speak with him. we did a little thing together. it's an extraordinary achievement by president obama, and while the affordable care

act has been called a lot of things, obama careq is the most fitting description.t,npozp■ t(. many of you joined us that day after fighting for decades to make it çóhappen, and i remembe three words içó used at the [ cheers and applause ] i thought it was a big 'c■deal,d i stand by the fact it was a big deal. i also called it at that time an historic day because history is on walls and in çó textbooks. you know,çó it doesn't begin or end with the stroke of a pen.

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biden, you brought cases to defend it.xd i alsoxd want to thank kamala"n■ [ applause ]i] look, so many of you here w■ so hard to!u■ makeq history1.$■s ago today, and i just wante1 to start by saying thank you, and i mean it from the bottom of my heart, thank you. there's millions and millionsq-f peopleu remember when a parent with a heart disease or diabetes or a coverage because of a!u■ pre-existing condition? remember when women hadi] toa5■ more for insurance becausecu

remember whenu rememberxd the doughnut hole wh seniors on medicare reachedq a tkmeuz pay the full cost oflpçó i said earlier, friends heard me say this before, we lived in a three bedroom split level home, and my bedroom was up against the wall where my parents'xdi] bedroo% headboard was there, and i remember when i was 14 years old, i remember my okdad, i cou hear he wasçó just restless and

asked my mom the next morning what's the matter? his companyr they're not going to pay for health insurance anymore. how many people lie in bed awak3 wondering. remember when insurance ■ could cut you off halfway through chemo because you reached thexde1 limits. i remember when my son beau was dying in the hospital becauser had stagexd got a call from someone asking me for help because they thought me for help because they thought they were going to havexúqr)e1 insurance cutt< off because the ran out of time. i thought to myself what in god's name would i do had theyñ come along and xdsaid,çó sorry, you96# run out oflp your covera. folks, at the most vulnerable point of a person's life, the moment when you really need it, you could hear the words, sorryk your insurance has run out. folks our maga republican friends, and by the way, i want to be clear. there's some good decent

republicans out there. i'm not suggesting thisxd is al about bade1çó republicans, but new crowd is not your -- this ain't your@■dfather's republica party. [ laughter ] they may havelp forgotten all i just said, but i haven't. you haven't. all americans xddeserve peace o mind that if an illness strikes or an accident occurs, you can get theçó care you need,fá but truth is too many folks lie in bed at night and look at the ceiling wondering, my god, what happens if she gets breast cancer or i end one a serious !aam■ to the kids? what then? what then? do we haveqj9=u can wexdñr afford the bills? what's going to happen? i rp+e to sell the house. we don't have any more e1equity. you know,okxd i think it's abou whaá&váu value. i think allxd of us in this roo value peace of miof for everybody, everybody deserves a little peace of mind for things they can't control. that's why my administration is

focused intensely on building on the progress of the affordable care act. giving morexd people affordable insurance, lowering prescription drug prices. giving families morew3 breathe room. we have passed historic lawst( get that done, and now we're moving quickly to implement the3 so people can feel the effects t+eryday livemn÷ the affordable health care act expanded medicaid to covere1 an additional 20 million people. before it was passed, 20 feweri]qt( -- 20 million fewer e h) it expanded to coverfá 20 milli more people oni] medicaid. that means more cancers detected early, more mentalq health treatment available. less medical debt, fewer xd evictions. i signed the american rescue plan, which went further in a lot of states to extendñr medicd coverage to new moms for up to one year after they gave birth instead of only for 60 days. you remember what that did, what you guys did. 36 states andfá counting, and n we're extending it to a full

year fáe1e1coverage.jf [ applause ] the american rescue plan also increased coverage ande1jf lowe prices for the affordable health care act by saving 15 million people close to $800 a yeart( o their insurance. átáháhese ermanent.fá and we'll finish the job by expanding medicaigñ to at least2 million more americans. making health careqt( more affordable in many other wayslpñ well. last year i proposed and the congress passed the inflation as a result, this year seniors

onçó medicare getx things like tetanus, whooping cough, shingles. they get them for free instead of having to pay up to $200 a shot. americanq] spend more on prescriptionfá drugs than advanced nation in the ñiworld, butt( for decades, i did this wh chris a long time, senator dodd a long time, we'd try big pharma, but we finaép won.ei [ applause ]qr and insteadq ofwci just paying whatever drug companies wanted to charge, medicarefá is going drive down prices. we gave medicare some of the same powers to deal with medicare, we gave the government the same poweri] to beñrçó able what they can do at th

it onlyt( costs about 10 bucks vial to make, but drug companies vial to make, but drug companies are charging hundreds ofé@■ dol. beginning january 1 of thist( beginning january 1 of thist( y"l axd month. [ applause ] we need to cap that cost for everyone including thev childreng they're lowering prices to $35 a month.q [ applause ]

and last week the country's two of the top insulin makers announced they're cutting prices as well. so fo the inflation!u■ reduction act s to!u■ lower prescription drug costs. drug companies that raise prices faster than6z■ inflation, that' all right, we like babies. you don't5a■ have42■ worry abou it. +■fj [ applause ]t(i]jfñixd as a matter of fact, i like babies better than qpeople.t( [ laughter ] but e1look, any drug company th raises prices faster than inflation now has to pay medicare back!u■ the difference beginning next year. last weekp,■t(jf-5a■ [ applause ]5a■ last week we learned the drug companies hiked prices, now manufacturers are going to have to pay the difference back to medicare. department of health and human services estimates it will make copays for those drugs hundreds of dollars cheaper for someq seniors, and it's going to change the way drugs are priced

and lower costs for seniors dg-trqi as well. we also are capping out-of-pocket druglp expenses f seniors on medicare at a maximum and you know, maybe some here are paying not thisñr 2,000, ym■ they're paying 10, 12, $14,000 a year for some of the expensive treatments like cancer drugs. than $2,000 for all the pay mor- prescriptions in a!u■ single ye. and we're+■ going to giveñi sen certainty and peaceñr of mind. by the way, we'ree1t( alsei goi give the federal government some money as well lowering the a5 much money.ñi two weeks ago ilp xdreleased my budget, and it lays outfá whatñ

sñpuj$p'd in stark contrast to the other team. my ta(■çó used to haveñi anokñi expression. he says don't tell me what you value. show me your budget, i'll tell you what you ñ%ñalue. don't tell me what your show me your budget and i will tell you what you value. i value everyone having a xddect shot, about fairness, it's about dignity. my budget ko)ur'ues to build on the progress we made in the no one making less than $400,00i u(vñi añiçó single penny more i federal taxes to pay for all that we've done, not a singlew3 penny more. the maga -- [ applause ] butxdw3 our maga republicanxd f in congresse1 have a very different value set. they want to repeal the íj they value big pharma over

lowering drug costs for seniors. they're trying to undo thew3 affordable care act ever since it started 13 years ago. theyxd voted to repeal or weake the act 50 times in the first five years that itcáje;.lgkññi . they made repealing part of it h6xi■pbvz every single republican budget since the law was passed, and they're backing plans that would gut it again, gut medicaid.w3 look, let's take look at what the affordable care act has done. the affordable care act is a big reason why millionsñi of people with pre-existing conditions can afford to have xdinsurance, ok period. because of the affordable care act, millions of americans geti free preventative care like ccncer screening, and by the way, saves the country millions and millions ofçóqñi dollars if detected early. millions ofq americans have access to basic services like maternity caree1ñi when they wouldn't otherwise have that. families all over the country have been able to keep their children on their policies until

age 26. today north carolina is about to becomee@,he 40th state to expan [ applause ]xdlpñrçó 40 million americans in this country get theirqxd health car through the affordable care act and the medicaidfáñr expansion. 40 million people, that's some peace of mind. the affordable care act has b]v■ in law for 13 years. it has developed deepxdçó rq/uá this country and it has become a critical parte1lp of providing health care and saving lives. we !&ys talk about the costs,r but it saves lives as well. obviously it doesn't mean muche to ourt( republican friends, bu it can be a matter of life and death to millions of americans ñ them. é(th republican congress are intent on repealing the affordable care act when it's clear it would have at( devastating impact on the america,] people. we still have the house republican -- we stillfá haven'

seen the house republican budget. they want to negotiate, i say i've laid d7w i'm serious. asi] my brother wouldw3 say, go figure. but look, the budgets are going to showlpñr what they value,w3 former trump director wft budge advising the á congress hu■ a plan to slasht( $2 trillionxd from medicaid. i guess that shows a little bit of their value set. he wants to end medicare expansion on the affordable care act and make additional deep cuts that could leadxd to nearl 70 million people losingxdçóq critical services. 70 million people. most of them are fr'iors, people with çódisabilities, and with children -- and children, i should xdxdñisay. and some could lose their health care altogether. there are a number of other areasñi that arelp cutting medi or repealing the affordable care act would have a huge impact.

you know, what peoplefá don't really unders)5rey myñr republin friends always talk about how they care about rural america. well, guess what. just take a look atfá rural americans' hospitals, they need to keep the doors çóopen. that's one of the reasonsq why o many are closed. to travel twice as far to get to a hospital as folks who liveq ini cities, which isçó partly why trauma patients in rural areas are twic before they get to a hospital andfá more would close, not a joke. more would close, they couldn't stay open.

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we're also ñistrengthening medicare and social security. my budget willñr extend the lif ull medicarefá trust fund beyon 2050, and meanwhile, maga republicans in congress are threatening to gut andñi elimiwe [ laughter ]zv■ and whent( the distinguished÷ññ congresswoman from theñi mountas of georgia werep,■ saying liar, l2q. all of a suddenfáfá then t others started and i said -- we don't want to cut it. so i went through it all, you may remember, you're not going to cut social security and medicare, holler, stand up. well, a lot ofñri]ñiñrt( them s. tell the press they're all on ñ up. i sure hope it's true, but i'll it.

you've paid the social security and medicarelp from the first paycheck you ever earned, and i'm determined to protect it. let me close with this.fámy■ some of his +tbarack obamaw■q" m this room helped get that of mind. we did something else. we also took a giant step towards realizinglp the fundamental principle that we hold as democratsr americans that health careñi is right, not a a5■5a■ñrprivilege.] [ applause ]t(u we're notoav!÷ll the way there , the job. let's protect lower prescription

drug costs for everyone. let's expand health care coverage for more people so they get care. let's keep buildingq an economy from the middle out and bottom up, and let's remember who we çó are. we're the united states of %;>z nothing is beyond our capacity#g9■ we do it!u■ togeth. so god bless you all, and let's affordable care act, more commonly now known as obama nce a derogatory term.obama as he said no longer. descriptionñixd of the aca. so it wasñi a littdev bit of a k down memory lane but also a look ahead and something that you might look at as a bit of politicking talkingha.outñi his fight to do other things for health care in this country, the fight to lower prescription dru% prices, the fight that will include health care provisionsç

in the upcoming xde1budget.çóçói nbc's carol lee is with us. i thought it wasw3 interestioe said it was anñi extraordinary achievement, obama ñiqcare, and then refer%■ howñi he famously said more colorfully what it saidmmore colorfully what it >>r administration has reallyxd embraced it. democrats have embraced obama care, and you heard the president there really toutçóxd his administration has tried to build on obama care. one of the things, chris, that he said is thatxdxdw3 he actual spoke to former president obama yesterday ahead of ther anniversary of thelp affordable care act, and that they did a little thinge1ñie1t(i] together from a white house official that they recorded the -- the president and former president

recorded a videot( focused on t anniversary of the aca. they weren't together in person, they did it via zoom, but the idea is to focus on how americans areq benefitting from this ande1xd to try to draw tha contrast with republicans that we heard the president do there. now, obviously republicans opposed theqñi i]aca ande1 have arguments against it and haverúñ tried to repeal it, and the president is using that as one of the things that he's highlighting saying that doing so would take away a number of benefitsr gottxd gotten from this law. health care is at issue where democrats feel like they're onx very good xdground. it's somethingñi americans real care about, and the president feels like he,ok according to t white house has a good -- basically a good trackxd recorda good record that he wants to run on. specifically pointingjf to that capping insulin for seniors at $35 a month. and contrasting that with repu"

carol lee, thank you for that. we'll continue to follow the president's schedule today. but in the meantime on capitol hill, tiktokt( testimony, can i hill, tiktokt( testimony, can i ceo convince congressokqy"át apg

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right now for thexd first time, the ceo of tiktok is on + ■ hot seat in capitol hill, particularly hot because tiktok has pretty muchnb■ no support ag committee members who have been grilling shou chew asçó bot parties push to restrict or ban the app over n!áonal securityi] concerns. i want to bring in nbc's julie itali who has ane1 exclusive interview with t tiktokñ jackson. any sense of how he's doing in convincing skeptical lawmrç(áj that this appi is safe, secure, and the bottom line, should not bew3 e1banned? >> reporter: if anything,

ur)ujz ceo, he's onlyñi adding the growing forest of skepticism throughout his testimony soñi f■ jrpáh!een underway for just overçó three and a hal hours, and one democrat añi few minutes ago of delaware said she minutes ago of delaware said she she's walking out of this hearing with more concerns than she walked into the hearing with. that's notxd good news for mr. chew. he is unable toñi answer very basic questions from lawmakers on both sides of the aislea5■ including whether china spies oq americans, whether they collect and store this data, even if congress were to actç?$p'd restrict this app, this platform from the phones ofok 150 millio wake a listen toqñipú3 c1 one exchange with congresswoman who representsw3çó silicon valló

>> i have seen no evidence that the chinese governmentçóçó has access to that data. they have nevada asked us, we have not provided xdit. i've asked that questionxd -- preposterous. >> i have looked and i have seen noñi evidence of this happening and in order to assure everybody here andñi all ourr commitment is to move the data into the united states, to be stored on american soil by an american company overseen by american personnel. >> reporter: look, chew kept telling all these lawmakers that he will getññd back to them wit specific information. it's a panel of nearly 50 members, soñi the questions wer all over the place, butjf the bottom line here where this goes from here, thereñr is a ban, a bipartisan bill to introducexdñ legislation that would effectively enable a nationwide ban of t-3vok. i have to tell you, i asked leader schumer ift( hee1 will ct to putting this on the floor. he did notñi commitñi to doing saying committees are still looking into this. same goes for houset( speaker kevin mccarthy who said his

panelst( are looking into this well. we're not quite at a ban yet, but certainlyxd lawmakers at let a lot more questions than they're getting answered. >> not good news, ali, for tiktok, but not all members of congress are necessarily against it. you sñ/ who's gotten famous on tiktok. what does he think can be done here? >> reporter: famous on tiktok, chris, but for jackson and for other lawmakersxd for some of tm it's not just a question of to ban or not to ban, they are suggesting some other r some reforms that could do theñ

>> i have been able to reach a lot of people, and at the same time i think the securityxdr concerns are real. i saw what our fbi director said i think when it comes to thee1x algorithm and the potential for misinformation there, i think with the datalp privacy concern i think all of those are genuine concerns.%"t are exactly what julie's talking about that we've heard all day in this hearing. we knew that it was going to be tense. we kneá that it was goinge1 to a grilling. certainly that is more than what we've seen today. even in thee1 case of congressm jackson, he is on ñrtiktok, he reaching millions of people, and he plans to keepi]t(i] using its there comes a point where he can't. what he's doing to protect himself is he basically have a tiktok burner phone. one phone with this one app on

it, and that allowsçó him to ma sure that nothing elsexd is bei intermingled with any potential data pu

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the house whisperer! this house says use the realtor.com app to see three different estimates. also, don't take advice from people who don't know what they're talking about. realtor.com to each their home. thesee1xd are livelp picturm paris,ñi france, after whatr been largely peaceful protests against raising the retirement age, somethingxd macront( did. er water cannons and tear gas have been used by police there. protesters have been setting fire, and according tolpt( reut in central paris, smallerñr grod of blacklp blockok anarchists smashed shop windows, demolished street furnip3(e, they ransackei a mcdonald's. clashes e1ensued as riotñi poli moved in. they did drivejf back some of

those protesters with tear gas. ■ werexdxd used. we will have a live report from the streets of paris coming up in our next hour. it has been 549 days since teenage girls inñi afghanistan have gone to school. their dreams of building careers asñi doctors, lawyers, teachers taliban once again took control. now a new school year is starting, and teen girls are still not allowed to attend. before the taliban takeover, there were 3.6 million girls enrolled in schools nationwide, 90,000 inñi higher education, b it didn't matter how much progress they had made on their diplomacies orqxd degrees. they have beenñixd forced toçó learning. one afghan girl spoke to the bbc last year on thefá phone after f takeover. >> i feel really hopeless for my future. i don't see a bright futurexd f myself.

this was my last year after school, and they don't allow us. they always lookr to not allow us to enter the school, and i'mñi really sad. i don't know what to say. >> i want to bring in katherine russ+4n, executive director of unicef. i'm so glad to have you here. i was in afghanistan in 2010, i went to the school. i met a lot ofq these young s7■ girls, all of them were theymó daughters of people who were part of a persecuted minority. most of their parents could not read. i actually was there last year, and i saw just incredible sadness on the part of girls and

their families. the families recognized how important education was and really wanted these girls back in school. at the time, de facto authorities were telling us, oh, yes, we're going to let them go back to school. that was a year ago. it didn't happen then. everything that has happened to girls and women since then has been a further constriction of their rights and their ability to participate in society. it's truly tragic to see it and it's heartbreaking to see a young girl like that with her dreams dashed. >> what are the opportunities and what can happen to some of these girls? >> it's very challenging. right now, unicef is working hard. we do community-based education, so there are some opportunities. there's some hope for some digital online learning, but it's really difficult. last year, they got their backpacks ready to go, they were excited to go to class, the next day, shut down completely. i think it's a good illustration for just how crushing it is for them, all of their hopes and

dreams, everything we have worked for for 20 years for getting girls to school has been demolished. >> one of the observations i made is they seem to be practically skipping to class. they were so excited to be there. they saw their futures as absolutely limitless. is there anything the international community can do, any pressure that can be brought to bear? >> i agree 100%. they valued it so much because i think they knew what it was not to have it, and of course we're in the situation where it's ripped away from them. we have to keep trying. that's what unicef is doing, trying our best to find opportunities for school. there is a need for women doctors and teachers. i'm hoping that at some point these de facto authorities will recognize we need to get girls back into universities. i think the international community has got to continue paying attention which is why

i'm so grateful to you for covering these stories. it's easy to forget these girls and move on and afghanistan is such a mess. we can't abandon them. we have to hold on to the hope that they will have a better future, and we have to do everything we can to continue to apply pressure and most important to bring attention to it. >> do you think there is real hope in the near future for these girls to be able to go back to school? >> i think there's -- look, we're carving out ways to do our work. i think there is some limited hope, but in terms of this de facto authority government really changing, i can't say i'm super optimistic about that. i think the key for us is we have to keep doing what we're doing. we have to find ways to provide health care, provide education, and, you know, really what i saw when i was there last year was 28 million people are in desperate need of humanitarian assistance. i saw babies on the verge of starvation. the needs there are so tremendous, and i think this frustration with the way they're behaving can't take away from

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