back on our norwegian patrol ship, heightened vigilance. it's not just the oil and gas platforms, it's also the undersea pipeline to carry oil and gas, and internet, data and telecom lines stretching all the way across the atlantic, and all of it vulnerable to sabotage. the economy vulnerable to attack. tom costello, nbc news. we have a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports." let's get right to it. >> after this hour, more air strikes in ukraine as new reporting pulls back the curtain on what types of weaponry russia is sending to the front lines and what it tells us about the state of the war. that's next. plus, what lawmakers are saying today about the future of tiktok after the popular app's ceo got an amazing and

hard-to-watch-at-times, grilling on capitol hill. president biden, the new deals between the country concerning the border. we are moments away from hearing from the pentagon after the u.s. launched air strikes against iranian linked targets in syria. that happened after a u.s. contractor was killed and others wounded during a drone strike in the country. our nbc reporters are following all of the latest developments as we wait for the pentagon update on those air strikes in syria. i want to bring in nbc's dan de luce. what do we know, dan, and what have we expected to learn from the briefing? what are the questions that are still out there? >> reporter: there are a lot of questions still about this whole episode. the first thing is perhaps why the head of central command, when he testified before congress yesterday didn't mention this lethal incident in which this drone killed an american contractor there at

that base in northeastern syria. there's also a question about the air defenses and the radars around that base. as we reported earlier, courtney kube, the pentagon correspondent, obtaining this information that one of the radars around this base was not functioning. at that moment, it was down for maintenance. did that play a role at all in that strike by that drone? that will be another question that will be posed to the pentagon shortly. and there's also the more general picture here, which is this constant stream of attacks, many of which we don't hear about because they don't cause casualties, but these ukrainian backed militias in iraq and syria, have been targeting personnel now for months and years, and it's caused a constant challenge, and i think the larger question here for the white house is how to address this problem. on the one hand, they don't want to escalate tensions too much with iran, but they also want to sort of deter these kinds of

attacks in the future, and then in the background of all of this, of course, is iran's nuclear program, which is accelerating. they now, by all accounts, have enough material to make more than one nuclear weapon. >> dan de luce, thank you so much for that. and again, we are keeping our eye on that briefing. we will go to it when it happens. president biden is set to address the canadian parliament, touching on issues like trade and immigration on our northern border. nbc's monica alba is covering that for us. monica, the president said this morning it's been seven years since he's traveled to ottawa where you are. so why now? >> yeah, this is president biden looking back at much of the time he spent here when he was vice president looking back fondly, he said, at many of the people he met then, and now of course coming here for the first time as president, it was the first phone call that president biden made after being sworn into office, here to prime minister

justin trudeau, emphasizing the importance of the u.s. canada relationship, notable is president of both parties for decades had been coming here as their first foreign trip, and because of the covid pandemic and some other issues, president biden couldn't do that. it took a couple of years for him to make his way to the canadian capital. it was the former administration, president trump, who didn't follow in that tradition, and who had a far more contentious relationship with our neighbors to the north so the president is coming here to ottawa in an attempt to continue to shore up this important bilateral relationship and you see there, he is expected to address canadian parliament behind me in the next hour or so, and this follows an extended bilateral meeting that the president had with the prime minister where they are talking about a lot of really thorny issues at the top of the list, migration, and that new deal between both governments that will essentially allow them to

turn away asylum seekers at the northern border. they had been seeing an uptick in crossings in recently weeks and months, specifically in the section known as walks and roads. under the new agreement, once implemented, essentially those asylum seekers wouldn't be able to cross without authorization, and exchange, canada is offering 15,000 slots to apply for asylum or refugee strategy. some of the details we're waiting on and hope to learn. the president is going to touch on that and other themes, shoring up democratic values that the u.s. and canada share. and talking about trade, talking about norad, modernization in the context of the chinese spy balloon and aerial objects shot out of the sky in the weeks that followed. in close coordination at times, with the canadian government over uconn and lake huron. that's something the u.s. would like to see canada do.

when it comes to haiti, and the humanitarian crisis, and that really major surge in violence, in kidnappings, as he possibly is going to become a failed state. the u.s. would like canada to take a leadership role in coordinating this multinational effort to respond and help perhaps with an increased peace keeping force which is something that canada is hesitant to do. i'm told that's another big topic on the table for this dialogue, chris, among many other issues. at the end of the day, the president said, yes, sometimes we disagree to a degree. we can set that aside because our two countries value the same thing. >> thank you. let's go to capitol hill because the question is what will congress decide to do about tiktok. can it even survive in the u.s.? >> nbc's ryan nobles joins us. tiktok's ceo took it yesterday and didn't seem to sway members, if any, with his testimony.

what happens now? where does this go from here? >> reporter: i think a ban is certainly on the table still. this is something lawmakers are deliberating right now, trying to figure out exactly what type of form and function that would manifest itself, if they could come up with some sort of legislative agreement that would pass both the house and senate. what is certainly likely to happen in some way, shape or form is restrictions put on tiktok, whether that means they're sold to an american company or forced to be more transparent about how they store and manage american data. there does seem to be a great deal of inertia in that direction from republicans and democrats. listen to what the house speaker kevin mccarthy had to say after he watched that hearing yesterday. >> if you looked at the tiktok hearing yesterday, it was very concerning. here's a ceo that can't tell you that china is not acknowledging that's happening. i think you could find a very bipartisan bill to come out of energy and commerce. i know the synod is working on

one. i believe the house will get one done and pass it through as well. >> it seems like they want to do something. we would be naive if we didn't take into account the fact that it's such a popular platform. 150 million americans use tiktok every day. it's hard to unring that bell. and, chris, we should also point out while there's pretty much universal agreement on capitol hill, inside the walls, the tiktok ceo had a rough afternoon. if you and i tiktok over the past 24 hours, you'll get a picture over what users thought about the hearing, many picking on the members of congress, not the ceo. that demonstrates to a certain extent how difficult the job is going to be of this member. many constituents are big fans of the app and they do not want to see it go away. >> you probably don't think we know what we're doing here, but at some point you will. thank you, ryan nobles, as always. meantime, overnight, russian

air strikes have been pommelling ukraine and killing more civilians. nbc news foreign correspondent matt bradley is in kyiv. how is ukraine recovering from these attacks? >> reporter: they're trying to pick up the damage, they're trying to pick up those who have been injured. we saw one person was killed overnight, and we heard from the ukrainians that there were some 30 strikes all across the country. five missile strikes. this is just a continuous thing because yesterday or two days ago, we saw deadly strikes in zaporizhzhia and outside where i am now in the capital of kyiv. this is something that's been going on, this particular style of attack since last fall. we have been seeing the ukrainians pommelling civilian targets, trying to hit electricity infrastructure. this time, residential buildings that are really nowhere near any military targets according to the ukrainians, all of this is happening, chris, as we're starting to see sightings of

desperation, when it comes to material on the side of the russians. we saw the conflict intelligence team. this is a group that's based in the nation of georgia. they had photographs, they claim that show russian t 54 tanks on trains heading from the far eastern part of the country heading to the west. this group which is more or less a think tank, there's no indication these tanks are going to be used in combat. these are 1940s era tanks, chris. they really belong in a museum than they do on a battlefield, and that's why as we're seeing the russian president meeting with someone like xi jinping, the leader of china, trying to get more weapons and material, it really goes to show that even as the west is arming russia, the russians are becoming more and more desperate, chris. >> thank you so much for that, matt bradley. let's go to the pentagon briefing where brigadier general

pat ryder is talking about the situation that the u.s. launched air strikes. a u.s. contractor was killed, five u.s. service members injured. let's listen. >> in terms of air strike details, two u.s. air force f15e fighter air craft, assigned to u.s. air force's central, and based in the area of responsibility struck two irgc affiliated facilities at approximately 7:40 eastern time or 2:40 a.m. local. the facilities were located near darzur in eastern syria, and were continue to go assess the outcome of the strikes. initial indications are that the facilities were destroyed. with regards to militant casualties, we're still assesses. these were intended to protect u.s. personnel and the u.s. took proportionate and deliberate action intended to limit the risk of escalation and minimize casualties. as secretary austin said in his statement, no group will strike

our troops with impunity. again, secretary austin along with the department of defense offer our thoughts and prayers to the family and colleagues of the american contractor who was killed, and with those who were wounded in the attack. our forces deployed in syria continue to conduct an important mission in support of the international coalition to ensure the enduring defeat of isis. separately, secretary austin and chairman of the joint chiefs of staff testified before the house appropriations committee on defense to discuss the president's fiscal year 2024 budget. next week both leaders are scheduled to testify before the senate armed services committee and the house armed services committee on dod's budget posture and future year's defense program. again, the secretary and chairman look forward to working with congress to provide service members serving around the world with the resources they need to accomplish the mission and strengthen america's national security for the 21st century and beyond. finally, on wednesday, secretary

austin unveiled a comprehensive plan aimed at improving the lives of our dedicated military force and families. it consists of six actions that address needs and education, child care, parental leave and career advancement. the department of defense is committed to working with congress and other stake holders to ensure the successful implementation of these measures. the plan directs the following, kindergarten at dod schools, dependent care flexible spending accounts for service members, improvements to the exceptional family member program, expanded spouse eligibility for career advancement account financial assistance, and continuing efforts purportability for professional licensees for military families. secretary austin and the department of defense are dedicated to enhancing the quality of life for service members and their families

through these measures. they will ensure the successful implementation and ongoing support of these initiatives. the memorandum and information can be found on the dod web site, and with that, i will take your questions. we'll start with ap. >> thanks, pat. a couple of things. one quick clarification in the counter strikes. the u.s. hit three or two, was it three strikes or two strikes? >> two different facilities, so two strikes. >> two strikes. and then secondly, can you talk a little bit about the protection at the base where the iranian drone hit? my understanding is that there was some either lacking protections there. can you say whether or not any of the radars or anything that are there, either failed or were

not operating, is there adequate protection there now? how did the drone pierce the security and i have one follow up. >> first of all, broadly speaking for operation security reasons, i'm not going to get into the specifics in terms of the types of force protection capabilities we have in our facilities, other than to say we take force protection very very seriously. i will say, you know, as it pertains to radar, my understanding is that there was a complete site picture in terms of radar. all of that said is the case in any type of attack, u.s. central command will conduct a review to assess what happened and take a look at what if any other type of mitigating actions need to be taken. it would obviously be premature to talk about that. >> and your follow up? >> a quick follow up on the actual situation now. obviously the u.s. was struck again, green village was hit

again in response to the u.s. retaliatory strikes. are things escalating there, can we expect more? is that turning into a far more escalatory situation in syria for the troops? >> sure, and as you highlight, this morning at approximately 8:05 a.m. local time, which would have been 1:05 a.m. eastern time, we had ten rockets that targeted coalition forces at green village in northeast syria. the attack resulted in no injuries to u.s. or coalition personnel, and no damage to equipment or facilities. in terms of escalation, look, again, our focus in syria is on the defeat isis mission, and that will remain our focus. we do not seek conflict with iran. we don't seek escalation with iran, but the strikes we took last night were intended to send a very clear message that we will take the protection of our personnel seriously, and that we will respond quickly and decisively if they are

threatened. >> i have two questions. so according to the dod, the intelligence assessment is this uav of uranian origin, the groups that were targeted by the u.s. or associated with the iranian revolutionary guard. one american citizen was killed. six more were injured. and the department and secretary of defense hold iran responsible for the death of an american citizen? >> look, we know that these groups are sponsored by iran, so iran certainly plays a role in terms of ensuring that this type of activity doesn't happen. >> is iran responsible for the death of american citizens or not? >> iran, again, certainly backs these groups and by default has a responsibility to assure they're not contributing to instability and clearly they're

not doing that. jennifer. >> i'll make it quick, general was on the hill delivering his testimony. according to the dod statement, the attack happened at 1:38 local time, so that was prior to his testimony. when he delivered his testimony on the hill, did he know about the attack, and if so, why didn't he inform the congress about it? . >> i would have to refer you to general corilla, thank you. >> what kind of drone was this iranian drone, and how fast was it flying when it came toward the base. did it in the end fire into the base or fire missiles at the base? >> thanks, jennifer. we're still assessing some of those pieces. i don't have that information to provide, other than we are very confident based on the forensics, the intelligence analysis that we have done that it was of iranian origin. >> did it crash into the

facility or fire a weapon at the facility? >> it did not fire a weapon to my knowledge. >> reporter: if you say the radar was working and if you were tracking it, and drones don't fly that quickly, how is it that it was able to crash into the base, and you say that you're protecting those bases? >> again, this is a dangerous part of the world. the work that we do is inherently dangerous. that's why you have the military in these types of places, conducting these type of operations. we've seen rocket attacks, mortar attacks in the past from these kinds of groups. the fact is that these irgc-backed groups conducted this attack, and unfortunately we had an american killed. >> reporter: why wasn't there a contingency to shoot down the drone if it was coming into the base? >> again, we take a variety of measures to safeguard our people. it's an inherently dangerous place. we'll look into the details. thank you.

>> yeah, announced that it had conducted a nuclear underwater explosion test, and said he would ponder aggressive to u.s. and south korea, how would the u.s. react to this? >> i'm aware that north korea issued a press release about this supposed capability. i have seen the press reports, but i don't have any further information to provide on that. >> you're not concerned? >> look, we're always concerned about any type of destabilizing activity by north korea, and so, again, it's something that we take very seriously. as it pertains to the north korean press release, you know, i don't have anything further to provide. >> the joint chiefs of senator,

with a visit to south korea soon, does he have any plans to visit dmg? >> i don't have anything to read out today in terms of general milley's upcoming visit. i would refer you to joint start. i don't want to speculate, but thank you. let me go to orren. >> following the ten rockets that were fired at green village, do you believe it's the same group that was carried out, same group or militia that carried out the rocket attack or drone attack. do you plan to respond to the rockets and what would it take to deter there? >> our current assessment is that these rocket attacks were conducted by our irgc affiliate groups. the rocket attack was done in an effort to retaliate from last night's attacks. again, they did not cause any damage at the coalition facility. as far as any type of future

action, other than to say, we will always reserve the right to respond appropriately, if our forces are threatened. thank you. >> are you not concerned that there will be an all-out war with iran due to the continued exchange between the proxy groups and also they are attacking your bases in syria. >> look, so first of all, we don't see conflict or war with iran. our focus in syria is on the enduring defeat of isis. you know, unfortunately what you see in this situation are these iranian-backed groups. not only in syria, but conducting operations in the straight of hormuz, in the gulf, in iraq, conducting destabilizing operations that are meant to export terror and

instability. you know, iran sending drones to russia. and so, again, the united states and our coalition, our allies and our partners were focused on trying to ensure stability, security in these regions and that will continue to be our focus. we do not seek a wider conflict. with that said, if our people are threatened, we will continue to respond appropriately and proportionately. >> it's not the first time. they did this many more times, and they did it today as well. will there be any additional response to the u.s. and this group. >> i think you answered that, right. again, i'm not going to preview any potential future actions other than, again, we will take appropriate action if our forces were threatened. okay. >> yesterday, how do you assess the outcome of this exercise?

>> thanks for the question. unfortunately i don't have any information on the exercise at this point in time. i'd refer you to usfk, they could give a good readout. >> a larger scale between south korea? >> i don't have any specific exercises to highlight here today other than to say that we very much value our relationship with south korea and that i'm confident we will continue to conduct a variety of exercises, exchanges, partnerships in order to improve inner oerability. >> general, i have a clarification question. with respect to iran-backed groups, in the past strikes we wouldn't hear attributions from the dod, and you are very specific irgc in the statement.

what is the reason behind it? is it something new? >> i can't speak to the past. all i can speak to is the information we have which is our intelligence community assessed that the origin of this drone was iranian made. and that the groups conducting this attack are affiliating with the irgc. >> the other question about the contractors, the contractor was killed, what was his job, and how many contractors do you have in syria? do you have a ballpark number for us? >> i'm not going to provide any numbers. as you know, we work closely with a variety of contractors around the world conducting a variety of missions. in terms of the organization of this particular contractor, as a matter of policy, that is something that we will defer to the individual's company to highlight or provide, and so i'm not going to be able to provide any additional details on that. okay? let's see here. >> brigadier general pat ryder

being pressed at the pentagon whether there was adequate force protection in syria after that drone strike in northeast syria killed one u.s. contractor, injured five u.s. military members and one other contractor. let's bring back nbc news national security and global affairs reporter, dan de luce. as as he said, there were no other details. what did you take away from the briefing? >> i thought it was interesting he side stepped a few questions, one was, how was it possible that that iranian drone that presumably doesn't move that fast was able to approach the base, get in over the airspace over that base and conduct an attack. but he said there would be an investigation of the whole episode. he also did confirm that the second attack afterward at another u.s. outpost, a rocket attack, was also attributed to an iranian group affiliated with the iranian revolutionary guard.

both attacks linked to iranian backed groups. was also significant when he asked, does the administration hold iran directly responsible for the death of that american contractor, and his response was only to say that iran had a role to play in ensuring that these groups don't conduct these kinds of attacks or wage violence. he wouldn't quite go there in terms of holding iran responsible. he said the u.s. was not seeking conflict with iran but said the u.s. reserved the right to defend u.s. personnel and contractors at those bases. and it's also important to remember, why are there u.s. troops? this is all about still kind of fighting and putting down isis that extremist organization that at one point seized territory in syria and iraq and wreaked havoc, and they were essentially defeated but they are still looking and that is why u.s.

forces are there working with kurdish forces there in syria. so he was trying to remind everyone why u.s. troops are there, but he did admit that there are risks to operating there. and these iranian groups have been targeting u.s. personnel for some time. >> and we saw the risks play out over the last 24 hours or so. dan de luce, thank you. and pat ryder will join katie -- katy tur for more. a fatal police shooting of an unarmed black man last month, we've got the consequences and community reaction ahead. plus, our own jose diaz-balart's exclusive with three congressional caucus members who represent a quarter of the u.s., their takes on issues like immigration ahead. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company. in the future, your money never stops working for you with merrill, everything will be powered by renewable energy.

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>> no parent, no parent should not have to view the killing of their child, and then be asked to give remarks. however, here we are, and here i stand. >> thanks to yamiche for that reporting. danny cevallos is with us now. the attorney says we're doing an investigation. it's ongoing. based on your experience, and in spite of what he said that this is not clear, what's seen in that body cam video. do you think there's a case for charges? >> we look always at the end result, the shooting. i have been saying for a long time, the key is the initial police citizen encounter. what was the reason that police initiated this encounter. once there's a citizen encounter, it can escalate in a second. that's what you see here. this starts out about sunglasses. i would argue that the police were privileged to chase someone who may have allegedly stolen

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this is empowering the parents. this is the parents' bill of rights. it's knocking down currently with this biden administration that wants washington to control all, that wants doj to go after parents when they go to school board meetings. no, this is opening up the schools to the parents. >> joining me from capitol hill, nbc news congressional correspondent julie tsirkin. break down this bill. does it have a chance in passing in the democratically controlled senate? >> reporter: it's headed straight to the senate graveyard. this bill narrowly passed with five republicans joining democrats in opposing it but not for reasons you might expect. it was for reasons at least for most of them is that they don't want the government to have even more control over schools, representative matt rosendale tweeted about this. the bottom line, this comes down to the fact that this was one of kevin mccarthy's biggest

priorities, before he had the gavel in his hands a test of unity in some ways, and there was a lot of back and forth to get to this moment. a lot of amendments offered to tailor the bill as well. i want you to listen to what happened to two top democrats had to say, jeffries in the house and schumer in the senate about the bill. >> extreme maga republicans passed the bill that puts politics over parents and will ban books, censure librarians and bully children. it's shameful. >> the house republican school control bill is orwellian to the core and will not see the light of day in the senate. >> despite the bill not making it to the senate, this has been an issue particularly among republican states. i covered this in kentucky, the latest state where the house over there actually passed this bill just last week.

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>> there's federal law that addresses this somewhat. federal law requires if these companies are obtaining information about the minor, then they require verifiable parental consent, the challenge is what is verifiable parental consent, after all, a child can get on the phone and say, oh, sure, i'm my parents. people have been doing that, when they call out sick for school for millennia, probably. now they can do it on their phone. the challenge becomes how do you make sure it's verified parental content. the slightly problematic part might be the curfew. i wonder if that might be challenged on free speech first amendment grounds. you are restricting free speech overnight. the argument might be that minors have a diminished first amendment privilege. utah is attempting to affect what national global companies do within their state borders online. >> one of the questions that's been asked is how do you even

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safety, and police reform. take a listen to some of our conversation. >> one of the things that we all agree on is that all of our communities should be safe, that's why public safety and accountability is the pillar that all of our caucuses are work on. they should be free and safe from anti-asian hate. they should be free and safe from targeting of immigrants. it should be free and safe from police violence that disproportionately affects black and brown communities. again, working together, we're trying to bring those solutions to congress. this is not a democrat or republican issue. it's a public safety and accountability issue. >> 2021 gallop poll found 74% of adults believe crime is up nationally. across the country, the fbi found that hate crimes rose 12% just in one year, 2021. i know there's something that you've been focussed on. is there anything concrete that

washington can do to help our communities at the ground level? >> well, when president biden came, he issued an executive order on gun safety, and that is something that very frightened about especially since we see more and more mass shootings going on. >> one of the things we need to do as lawmakers, we are the role models in this country, we need to have the right rhetoric and conversations. sometimes it's coming from the hot. sometimes the anti-hate language and rhetoric coming out of congress, as we saw in the last administration has been triggered from those in positions, so i think it's important that we hold ourselves accountable as well. >> you know, chris, one of the things that really kind of struck out at the end of our conversation was that all four of us were children of immigrants, and it's one of those things that united them,

and helps them define what their american dream means and the importance of doing everything they can so that every single person here can have an american dream and fulfill it. >> look forward to seeing more of that. jose diaz-balart, thank you. we want to go live to ottawa, speaking before the canadian parliament. let's listen. >> the hallowed halls of democracy, this is a different hall. you've done a hell of a job. this is really beautiful. it's really very beautiful. americans and canadians are two people, two countries, in my view, sharing one heart. it's for a personal connection. no two nations on earth are bound by such close ties, friendship, family, commerce, and culture.

our labor unions cross borders. so do our sports leagues. baseball, basketball, hockey. listen to this, hockey. i have to say i like your teams except the links. i tell you why. they beat the flyers back in january. that's why. and if i didn't see that, i married a philly girl, if i didn't say that, i'd be sleeping alone, fellows, i like you but not that much. it can't be easy take a partnership as canada and the united states as a given, but

when you stop and think about it, it's really a wonder. 5,552 mile long border, more than 8,800 kilometers defined by peaceful commerce, trade relationships that measure more than $2.5 billion a day. every day, hundreds of thousands of people cross the borders going north and south to work or just to visit, knowing they'll find a warm welcome on the other side of the border. americans love canadians, and that's not hyperbole. it's a data-driven fact. earlier this week, a gallop poll, a new poll showing america's opinions on different countries in the world. this is a fact, canada ranked at the very top, 88% favorable rating among americans. up from 87 the year before. i take credit for that one

point. i suspect every politician in this room would do a hell of a lot to get those kind of numbers. but there's a reason for it. the same aspirations across both of our nations from the atlantic to the pacific, to live in freedom, to live with dignity, to relentlessly pursue the possibilities of tomorrow. to leave our children and our grandchildren with a future that's better because of our efforts, the people in this room, similar room in the united states. president kennedy said, and when he spoke here in 1961, and i quote, he said, ours is the unity of equal and independent nations. cotenants of the same continent, errors of the same legacy, and fully sovereign associates in the same historic endeavor. to preserve freedom for

ourselves and for all who wish it. for all who wish it. through more than a century of that historic endeavor, canada and the united states have had each other's backs. in war and in peace we have been the stronghold of liberty. safeguard for the fundamental freedoms that give us our lives meaning. we have gladly stepped into the responsibilities of global leadership because we understand all that is at risk for canadians and americans alike, when freedom is under attack anywhere in the world. today our destinies are intertwined, and they're inseparable. not because of the inevitability of geography, but because it's a choice, a choice we've made again and again. the united states chooses to link our future with canada because we know that we'll find

no better partner. i mean this from the bottom of my heart, no more reliable ally. no more steady friend, and today i say to you, to all the people of canada that you will always, always be able to count on the united states of america. together we'll build a partnership that is an incredible advantage to both of our nations. that doesn't mean we never disagree as any two countries do from time to time. when we disagree, we solve our differences in friendship, and in goodwill because we both understand our interests are