tv Katy Tur Reports MSNBC March 24, 2023 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
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my heart, no more reliable ally. no more steady friend, and today i say to you, to all the people of canada that you will always, always be able to count on the united states of america. together we'll build a partnership that is an incredible advantage to both of our nations. that doesn't mean we never disagree as any two countries do from time to time. when we disagree, we solve our differences in friendship, and in goodwill because we both understand our interests are
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fundamentally aligned. as we stand at this inflection point in history, i had a professor who once explained the infection point as you're going down the highway at 60 miles an hour, you rapidly turn and run a direction 5 degrees, and never get back on the same path again, but you're on a different course. whether the decisions we make in the coming years will determine the course of our world for decades to come. it happens every five or six generations, but we're at that point. nothing gives me greater confidence in the future that knowing canada and the united states stand together still. today i'd like to speak a little bit about the future if i may. a future that's ours to seize. you know, i get criticized at home sometimes for saying that i used to always -- for president obama used to kid me because i'd
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always say in our private meetings, the country is never more optimistic than its president or its leaders. i've never been more optimistic in my life -- i really mean this from the bottom of my heart -- the future built on our shared responsibilities, prosperity, shared values. first, it's a future built on shared prosperity. continue to anchor the most competitive, prosperous and resilient economic region in the world. that's a fact. that's just a fact. >> our supply chains are secure and reliable from end to end because we're creating the value at every step right here in north america. critical minerals to manufacturing packaging and the most advanced semiconductors in the world to producing electric vehicles and clean energy technology together.
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the future where we understand that economic success is not in conflict with the rights and dignity of workers and meeting our responsibilities, adjusting to climate crisis, but rather those things depend on us doing that. depend on us doing that. since becoming president, i have been laser focused on rebuilding the u.s. economy from the bottom up and the middle out. not a whole lot trickled down from the top down on my dad's kitchen table, and by the way, when the middle class does well, the wealthy do very well. no one gets hurt. the united states made historic to the chagrin of some of our critics in the press, bipartisan investments in infrastructure, innovation, they're already bringing together, and delivering concrete benefits to the american people.
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and, you know, as we implement these legislative achievements, there are numerous opportunities for canada and the united states to be closer together, good paying jobs in both of our countries, inflation reduction act which i admit wasn't bipartisan, but nonetheless, all of a sudden i'm finding we have more adherence, the single largest investment in all of human history, and it's going to spur clean energy investments all over the world. and explicitly includes tax credits assembled in canada, recognized.
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[ applause ] recognizing how interconnected our auto industries are and our workers are. i am the most pro union president america has ever had. well, this is a model for future cooperation, both our nations investing at home to increase the strength on an investable basis, making sure the products are manufactured in north america, they're the best in the world. we're going to amplify shared commitment, growing our economies, just stop for just a second and say, you know, why i ran for president, i was known as one of those green democrats, and republicans used to be the same. but guess what, i didn't announce my environmental plan.
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why is biden all of a sudden changing. the reason is i brought all the unions together, i brought them in to the white house, not a joke. i pointed out. guess what, every initiative it required to deal with the environment creates union jobs. creates thousands of jobs. thousands of jobs. for example, we're going to build 5,500 electric charging stations. guess who builds them, union workers. [ applause ] new electric vehicles and charging stations, so americans and canadians can ease across the border without hitting a snag with zero emission vehicles, building
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batteries and technologies that go into the vehicles together. we have learned the hard way during the pandemic. we rely on just in time supply chains and circle the globe for our significant significant vulnerabilities and it dries up costs here at home, both canada and united states. there's a better way. our nations are blessed with incredible natural resources. canada in particular has large quantities of critical minerals that are essential for our clean energy future. i believe we have an incredible opportunity to work together so canada and the united states can source and supply here in north america, everything we need for reliable and resilient supply
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chain. folks don't make our critical supply chains, the united states is making it available in the production act to incentivize american and canadian countries to responsibly mine and process minerals needed for electric vehicles and stationary storage batteries. we're building the greatest supply chains for semiconductors, critical computer chips. was invented in america, and we lost control of it. not only control of it, but we lost producing it, that power so much of our daily lives. the ibm plant in quebec is the largest semiconductor packaging and testing facility in north america. chips made in vermont. and upstate new york are shipped to beaumont to be packaged in electronic components.
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now beaumont is expanding with the support of the canadian government, and there's going to be a lot more work thanks to the bipartisan chips and science act i signed into law last year. companies are breaking ground for semiconductor plants across the united states representing billions of dollars in new investments in american high-tech manufacturing, $12 million from manufacturing company in arizona. $20 billion and counts for intel in ohio. $100 billion in new york, the single largest investment of its kind ever in the world. chips began to roll off the new production lines in america a lot of them will be coming to canada to be packaged and that's a lot of jobs, good paying jobs, and today. i'm making available $50 million to incentivize u.s. and canadian companies to invest in packaged
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semiconductors, printed boards. because of our shared prosperity is deeply connected to our shared security. in the past years have prouchb, canada and the united states, the world needs canada and the united states working together with our partners around the world to rally strong and effective global action. nowhere is that more obvious than when our united response to russia's brutal aggression against ukraine. we've stood together. to defend sovereignty, to defend democracy, freedom for ourselves and all who wish it. as i told president zelenskyy when i visited with him in kyiv last month, people all over the world are with the great people of ukraine. aren't you amazed with the
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bravery they're showing. it's incredible. i know there's a large number who feel the same way, canada and the united states together with the coalition of 50 nations we have jointly put together are making sure ukraine can defend itself. we're supplying air defenses, artillery systems, ammunition, armored vehicles, tank and so much more. tens of billions of dollars so far. together with our g7 partners, imposing a significant cost on russia as well. denying russia critical inputs to its war machine. we're independently holding russia accountable for the war crimes and crimes against humanity that russia has committed and continues to commit as i speak today. and canada and america alike. our peace tower, your peace
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tower stands testament to the sacrifices of more than 60,000 brave canadians who perished in world war i, making this nation a champion of liberty. in the worlds of lieutenant colonel john mccreed, called to us from philanders field, echoing the charge of ages, and i quote it, to you from failing hands we throw the torch to you to hold it high. so today, let's once more affirm that we're going to keep that torch of liberty burning brightly in support of ukraine. will not wait.
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[ applause ] putin was certain he would be able to break nato by now. he was certain of that. guess what, his lust for land and power has failed. the ukrainian people for love of country is going to prevail. and canada and the united states are making clear our commitment to our nato allies. we'll keen our alliance strong and united, we'll defend every inch of nato territory. an attack one is an attack against all. [ applause ] as we look forward to the 75th anniversary of nato next year, canada the and united states share responsibility and commitment to make sure nato can
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deter any threat, defend against any aggression from anyone. that's the bedrock of the security of both of our nations. canada and the united states are not only partners in transatlantic security, we are pacific nations as well. earlier this month we hold our first u.s. canadian indo-pacific dialogue to deepen our cooperation and promote an indo pacific, free and open. you recognize the critical importance of the region to our collective security and the interest of nations in the arctic. we're working in close coordination to steward and protect the northern most regions of our world, and we are american nations, deeply invested in ensuring the western hemisphere is peaceful, prosperous, democratic and secure, and that starts with our commitment to defending our people, and our own sovereign
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territory. norad is the only military command in the world. norad is the only national committee in the world. another way in which our partnership is exceptional. it is an incredible symbol of the faith we have in one another and the trust we place in each other's capabilities. soon norad will have a new next generation, over the horizon radar to enhance our early warning capacity. upgrade it, under see surveillance systems. i'm looking forward to continuing to work in close partnership with canada as we deliver on these needs so that our people can continue to rest soundly, knowing norad is in the
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watch. [ applause ] we're coordinating closely to take on the security challenge of zaporizhzhia, we're working in partnership with the people of haiti to provide security and humanitarian assistance to help strengthen. synthetic drugs that are devastating canadian and american communities, particularly our young people. fentanyl is a killer, almost everyone knows someone who has been affected by this, lost a child or lost a friend. canada and the united states are working closely with our partner in mexico to attack this problem at every stage from a precursor chemical shipped from overseas to the powders to the pills, to the traffickers moving it into all of our countries. and we all know synthetic opioid
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has its roots around the globe, not just here. we're announcing a commitment to build a new global coalition of like-minded countries led by canada and the united states, to tackle this crisis. this is about public health. it's about public health. it's about public health or economic futures, our national security. we're also working together to address record levels of migration in the hemisphere. the united states and canada signed last june along with 19 other nations represents an integrated new approach to migration challenge which is real. the humane policies for secure borders, we support people. in the united states, we're
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expanding legal pathways for migration to seek safety and humanitarian basis while discouraging unlawful migration that feeds exploitation and human trafficking. i applaud china -- excuse me, i applaud canada. you can tell what i'm thinking about china. i won't get into that yet. i applaud canada for stepping up with similar programs, with 1,500 migrants to come to canada. at the same time, the united states and canada will work together to discourage unlawful border policies, and fully implement the safe bird country agreement. finally, as we advance our
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shared prosperity and security, we must never lose sight of our shared values. because our values are the lynch pin holding everything else together. welcoming refugees and seeking asylum seekers is a part of who canadians and americans are. in fact, the united states recently launched a new private sponsorship program for refugees. we call it local corps, which draws on refugee resettlement, both countries build upon the nation-to-nation relationship with native americans and first nations. we have both been influenced and strengthened by the contribution of generations of immigrants. we believe to our core that every person deserves to live in dignity, safety, and rise as high as their dreams can carry them. we strive to defend human rights, advance equality and gender equality. to pursue justice and uphold the rule of law.
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i want to note the outstanding work canada has done to build a coalition of nearly 70 countries, endorsing the declaration against arbitrary detention and state-to-state relations. [ applause ] not only the stated value, our citizens are not bargaining chips. they're not diplomatic leverage. they're human beings, with lives and families that must be respected and i'm very glad to see that two michaels, michael scarboro and michael are safely back to their families after more than 1,000 days, 1,000 days in detention. my mother here would say god bless you both. thank you for joining us today. and thank you for having the opportunity to meet you earlier. you know, incredible diversity
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that defines each of our nations is our strength. and the prime minister trudeau and i know this is a belief that you and i share. we both build administrations that look like america and look like canada. i'm very proud -- i'm very proud that both of us have cabinets that are 50% women for the first time. if you don't agree, guys, i'd stand up. the bottom line is this, we make it easier for starkly under represented communities to create, to succeed, we build a better future for all of our people. let's continue the work. where there are no barriers, things look better.
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where there are barriers to equal opportunity we got to turn them down. where inequity stifles potential, where we unleash the full power of people, let's insist on justice being done. those are the shared values that embue all of our efforts, our very democracy, our vitality and vibrancy. it's what drives us all. some places are kind of forgetting what the essence of democracy is. we have to reach -- it's what allows us to reach beyond the horizon. let me close with this. the year after president kennedy spoke in canada's parliament, he delivered a famous speech at rice university, issued a challenge for americans to go to the moon in a decade's time. remember what he said, you probably do because we had to learn it when we were in school. we choose to go to the moon in
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this decade and do other things not because it's easy, but because they are hard. because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, unwilling to postpone, and one which we will win. that speech tapped into something deep in america's character. something powerful. a belief that we can do big things. just think about it. turn on the television in the last two years, whether it's in your country or mine, after three years of covid, people begin to wonder, can we still do big things. big things. they sure the hell can. that confidence i believe with every fiber in my being, that confidence can make the most
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audacious dreams reality. less than seven years after kennedy's speech, the entire world left his first footprints on the further shores. an inspired generation, spurred much of the technology that enriches our daily lives. today, our world once more stands with the breakthroughs and possibilities that have never before even been dreamt of and canada and the united states are leading, will continue to lead the way. in just a few days. in just a few days, announcing an international team of astronauts who will crew the artemis 2 mission, the first humans on the moon since the apollo mission ended more than 50 years ago. it will consist of three
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americans and one canadian. we choose to return to the moon together, together we'll return to the moon. and from there, we look forward to mars and the limitless possibilities that lie beyond, and here on earth, our children who watch that flight will learn the names of the new pioneers, they will be the ones who carry us into the future we hope to build, the artemis generation, ladies and gentlemen, we're living in an age of possibilities. xi jinping asked me could i define america, and i could have said the same thing if he asked about canada, i said, yes, one word, and i mean it, one word, possibilities. nothing is beyond our capacity. [ applause ] we can do anything, we have to never forget. we must never doubt our capacity. canada and the united states can do big things, we stand
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together, do them together, rise together. i promise you, god bless you all, and may god protect our troops. thank you, thank you, thank you. [ applause ]. president biden getting a really warm reception in canada's parliament, a standing ovation right there. he went north of the border today to discuss the relationship this country has with canada. our shared coordination and cooperation on so many different issues, including defense and our shared northern border. you heard that speech right there. we're going to leave it there right now because we have breaking news to tell you. i'm katy tur from new york. it's 3:25. the manhattan d.a.'s office just minutes ago, law enforcement tell wnbc that d.a. alvin bragg has now received a death threat, a note inside a letter addressed to him said quote, alvin, i'm going to kill you. it also contained a small amount
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of white powder. the substance was deemed nonhazardous, and there were no evacuations or injuries. law enforcement sources say the nypd and now the fbi are both on scene investigating. we're going to go there as soon as we can. the threat comes as donald trump has been escalating his aggressive rhetoric against d.a. alvin bragg. he posted a warning of potential death and destruction, his words, if he's charged. this will add to that concern. on that note, republican lawmakers led by trump ally marjorie taylor greene just wrapped up a jailhouse tour in d.c. in what appeared to be a visit in solidarity with january 6th defendants. joining me now on that death threat, nbc news senior legal analyst laura jarrett. we just got it from jonathan dienst, and we have the contents
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of the letter, attention alvin bragg. received march 24th, today, at 11:40. letter is typed again, and this is a quote, alvin: i'm going to kill you, and then a series of exclamation points. >> very disturbing and comes on the heels of the former president's post on truth social this morning in the wee hours, warning of potential death and destruction if, in fact, he is indicted. no announcement on that front, obviously going to the person who has been indicting him. we're getting a comment from the district attorney's office. which is rare. he has not commented on many of the posts, other than the office is following the law. here's what the d.a. is saying, the d.a. has informed the office
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that it was immediately contained, presumably meaning the substance, the nypd emergency service unit and the nyc department of environmental protection determined there was no dangerous substance, so the headline, of course, no dangerous substance, didn't pose a threat, but obviously the message was clear, the message itself was menacing, and so you can further -- infer the intent there. >> they were loading a big case, multiple big cases in the car. we presume one of them contains what was in the letter. they deem it not threatening. it harkens back to a time where a lot of people across the country in positions of power were receiving these sorts of letters with white powder in them, back to the anthrax scarce of early 2000. >> it's scary anytime there's a threat against a public official. a federal junl judge has decided
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to keep the identities secret because this person has a history of attacking law enforcement, courts, judges, and so it's just worth noting his statements are received by his followers, the judge said that even though he's not speaking to sort of any of the actual contents of what's happening in the manhattan district attorney's office, you can't help but notice that this is happening in public view, and that there are people who are certainly inspired by what he's saying on social media. >> that's the e. jean carol case. she accused him of assault decades ago and that case is being litigated or argued right now. so you have this happening, you have donald trump escalating his rhetoric. he's going to waco, texas, this weekend. there were questions about what he might say in front of the crowd. there's also been some legal educated guessing by manhattan d.a., former manhattan d.a. members on this show about why an indictment has not yet come and the thought from them is
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that if an indictment does come, the d.a. will want to do it so that donald trump can get to new york city as quickly as possible. there's not a lag where he can go hold a rally in a place where he rails against the d.a. concerns about security. >> nobody knows except the inner workings why we haven't seen anything yet or if we will see anything. we don't know if there are additional witnesses. we know they're expected to meet on monday again. they typically meet on mondays, wednesdays and thursdays. they didn't meet on the hush money case yesterday. they did appear there. they appear to be meeting on a variety of subject matters, which is not unusual. they're expected to go back monday, and if, in fact, the d.a. decides to indict, he could on monday. we don't know yet. it's not unreasonable to expect he would want to get his ducks in a row and make sure he has everything lined up security
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wise if he decides that's the way to move. >> alvin bragg has said his office will not be intimidated. that's about as far as he's gone. let's bring in nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard, also capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles to talk to us about this tour of the d.c. jail and the january 6th defendants. any reaction from trump world about this threat? >> reporter: at this point we have no word as it pertains to this specific threat. i think it's important context to note that donald trump is going to waco, texas, tomorrow, for what is his first formal mega rally of the 2024 presidential campaign for him. this is notable because for donald trump ultimately he has no say over what the grand jurors do or prosecutors choose to do. what he does have control over is in terms of trying to galvanize his base of support in trying to turn this into a
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political advantage for him. it's going to be up to a jury if criminal proceedings take place, and whether he's guilty or innocent. but it's going to be up to the voters to determine whether he has a shot at the republican nomination for president again or potentially the general election. i think it's important to note over the course of the last 24 hours, the extent of his social media posts, which should become more direct than any we have seen in recently months. donald trump calling alvin bragg a quote human scum. he suggested this was worse than in russia and china. he's equated it to the gestapo. he has suggested that there is turmoil and chaos for years to come if charges were to be brought against him. notably he suggested earlier this morning that if you were to be charged, there could be quote potential destruction and death. for donald trump, he's raising the stakes of all of these investigations and what could come out of these potential
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charges against him. and so, you know, i've had conversations with folks who are, you know, track domestic terrorism, and the concern is not necessarily another january 6th type of event, a massive group of people descending on one particular entity. it's more of these one-off individuals in the form of this appears to be a threat here at this point, but somebody else who is lone wolf, if you may, and taking a drastic measure in a good cause.at they believe is of course this is the troubling part, the difficult part of all of this, and donald trump will be heading to waco, texas, amid what is only becoming increasing tension. >> that's always been the concern at the trump rallies early on. what about the one person who decides to take donald trump's words and to act on them. we have a little bit more reporting from jonathan dienst at wnbc about this letter. it was postmarked from orlando, florida, on the 21st of march,
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2023. i'm going to try to go back and look at the postings from donald trump's truth social around that time. this suggests the letter may have been mailed from orlando. ryan nobles, we can't escape the fact that this is happening as there are members of the republican party who are rallying to the side of january 6th defendants. what did we see today with marjorie taylor greene and those republican lawmakers going to visit these defendants. who were they there to visit? what did those people do? and what were they trying -- what message did they say they were trying to send with this? >> well, this tour of the jail here in washington, d.c., where many of these january 6th defendants are being held just wrapped up in the last few minutes. we're just now starting to get a sense of what marjorie taylor greene, lauren boebert, andy
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bigs, clay higgins of the far right, who went on this tour with the express purpose of trying to display this group of individuals as political prisoners who have been held against their will for crimes that marjorie taylor greene and her cohorts believe are not worthy of prosecution. they have argued for some time that they're being held much longer than they should have been, at the very least. that they deserve the right to be released from jail, pending the outcome of their trials. obviously the judges in these cases have felt differently, and we did see a group of democratic lawmakers from the oversight committee join with the republicans on this tour. but i was told specifically not to describe it as a bipartisan tour because they were specifically there to make sure that whatever interpretation greene and the fellow members of the republican party had of this was accurate.
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we're still getting a sense of exactly what they hope to accomplish here. it's important to point out, and i think you were alluded to it, there have been many of these january 6th defendants who greene and others have rushed to the defense of and said that they were incorrectly prosecuted, and many of them have cut deals, you know, pled guilty, served their time and even in some cases, have then gone on to testify on behalf of the prosecution. so a lot of them have a long list of evidence stacked up against them. they are going through the judicial process just like many others in that washington, d.c. jail, weren't there on january 6th, but are on different types of charges, and there's really no hard evidence that they're being treated any differently. they're trying to make an example out of them. this is in many ways an effort to whitewash the events of january 6th. whether or not this bubbles up past the right wing ecosphere, the bubble that many of these members of congress talked to on
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a regular basis remains to be seen. >> and it's important, i think, to restate what a lot of these january 6th defendants have said themselves, which is that they believe they were acting on donald trump's orders. joining me now is retired u.s. army sergeant, iraq war veteran and the ceo of task force butler, sergeant goldsmith, an intelligence and disinformation analyst. thanks for being here. i want to reiterate what the letter said. it was nailed to the district attorney's office in new york, says attention alvin bragg, received today, march 24th. it was opened at 11:40. it appears to have been mailed two days ago or three days ago on march 21st from orlando. the letter is typed, alvin: i'm going to kill you with multiple exclamation points. how do you read into this, sir? >> this is something that i'm all too familiar with. i've received death threats exactly like that over the last
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few months from neo-nazis, and hard core trump supporters who are upset with my organization, task force butler institution which researches extremists and gathers evidence and brings them to justice. i'm also not surprised at all. because what we've seen over the last -- especially this past week was trump engaging in terrorism. what that means is he's demonizing specifically district attorney alvin bragg to the point that he is deliberately trying to inspire individuals within his fan base to go out and try and kill him. that is terrorism. he is engaging -- the former president of the united states is engaging in terrorism. he's literally trying to get a prosecutor killed. i hope he's held responsible for this. >> all right. so how do investigators, how does the intelligence community,
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law enforcement officials, how do they prepare for the potential of donald trump being indicted? if we're already seeing this sort of stuff start? >> so we already know that the nypd and that the fbi, secret service, court officials are already talking about what's going to happen, and when it's going to happen. new york city is one of the most secure places on the planet, they have a bigger budget than any other statewide or city wide police department anywhere in the world. so sharing information between these federal, state and city law enforcement groups, plus folks like my volunteers, my organization, when we see something, we like the nypd slogans all over the subways, we say something, right, we gather evidence. we provide it to law enforcement officials. so right now, there's an army of
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volunteers, not just with my organization but folks who have been identification january 6th insurrectionists and providing information to the fbi about their identities. these people are all over these alternative social media platfo)ms, mainstream social media platforms and gathering intelligence about people making threats, people talking about their intent to do political violence, to engage in terrorism following what they believe are orders from, you know, the disgraced former president. >> if the former president were to come out and say i don't condone violence, i don't condone the threat, i think it's abhorrent, if he was to condemn it in strong language, would that help? >> no, because the conspiracy theorists who follow trump can wrap their minds into knots and they'll tell themselves that, oh, that's not him. that's a deep fake video. they will do everything that
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they can to convince themselves to keep moving in the direction of violence in a way that they believe is going to help trump regain power and specifically punish his enemies. that is, as you know better than anyone, from the very beginning of his 2016 campaign, punishing his enemies has been the key thing that has brought his base together? it is the perception that if you join trump's side, you can go out and hurt people. you are justified. you are enabled to do it. that is the attraction of trump. and they will never believe him, if he were to come out and suddenly, which i don't think would ever happen say that he's condemning violence. even if he does that, even if he does that, you know that he's going to do it, you know, out of the side of his mouth, and he's not going to really mean it. >> what do you think of the lawmakers, marjorie taylor greene, lauren boebert, going to the jail today to visit those
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january 6th defendants? >> marjorie taylor greene, lauren boebert, the rest of those far right republicans care about january 6th defendants exactly as much as they care about veterans. we are great photo ops for them, we are great fundraising tools for them. but i know from walking around capitol hill for years and trying to talk to republicans about improving veterans health care that they will not get involved in anything meaningful like criminal justice reform. they're going there. they're going to send out a bunch of e-mails. they're going to get a bunch of donations, and those people are going to still sit in prison because they broke the law. that's where they belong, and they are being treated with due process the way that anybody else who breaks the law is going to get treated. so, you know, i am disappointed to see them do that, but these people disappoint me every day, so it's not a surprise. >> as they said, they believe the civil rights of these defendants are being infringed upon. thank you very much for joining
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us. do we have vaughn hillyard back with us? let's move on to the other breaking news we have. the other big news, and this is about the special counsel. evan corcoran finished his grand jury testimony in d.c. our cameras caught the trump attorney leaving after three hours of questions. he did not speak to reporters. there he is. there's also new abc news reporting according to multiple sources that mark meadows and other top trump aides will be forced to testify in the january 6th probe. nbc news has not confirmed that reporting. joining me now is former fbi general counsel and former member of robert mueller's special counsel investigation into russian interference in the 2016 election, andrew weissmann, also an msnbc legal analyst, and laura jarrett is with us. laura, let's start with you, and talk about evan corcoran going into the d.c. court today. he was compelled to testify. donald trump's team has not appealed. do we have an idea of why?
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>> curious, right, you would think they would have thought tooth and nail if they wanted to try to keep this out of the hands of the grand jury. we don't know exactly why. i think there are some informed guesses out there, including from our very own lisa reuben who has suggested in a piece on digital now that perhaps they didn't want to take a shot at losing before the supreme court, and having the court find out what the evidence is to support this idea that the attorney/client privilege should be pierced. remember, the attorney/client privilege, except when it's used in a crime, which the judge thought was justified in this case, and took upon appeal, the presumably the justice might have to get a look at what the evidence is. lisa has surmised smartly that perhaps you don't want to take that shot in front of the supreme court and lose.
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>> what do we believe corcoran is fefg about? -- testifying about? >> the letter that goes to the justice department and states that they have done an exhaustive search and they can certify now that there are no more classified documents down at mar-a-lago. we all know that not to be true. evan corcoran drafted the statement, signed by somebody else. he is sort of at the heart of what happened there and that false representation made to the justice department, and the justice department wants to know how did that letter come about and did your client know about it. >> abc news is reporting, there are transcripts of personal conversations, personal phone conversations or audio conversations. >> all of the above, yeah. >> from evan corcoran. nbc news has not confirmed that reporting but that is what abc news is reporting according to multiple sources familiar. let's bring in andrew weissmann. let's talk about the reuben theory that laura laid out, the idea that if donald trump were to appeal this, the supreme
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court would get a look at what the underlying evidence was, and presumably if it was bad, it could create a bias against him for a later ruling. a prejudice. >> that is certainly possible. yeah, that certainly is a plausible explanation, and if you combine that with the fact that there is no way on god's green earth he was going to win that, the combination, i think, is the reason for them to decide it's not worth the time and money because this is going to happen. and it's not like the supreme court would have bought him months and months of delay, at most, it would have been a few days with the risk that i think wisely brings about. could i just comment a bit about the donald trump continuing the vitriolic statements, that the courts actually then can have a role in putting a muzzle on what
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he is doing. the same thing happened with roger stone when he issued a photograph of himself, and the judge in the case, if there were cross hairs in that photograph, he then took the stand at a bail hearing to explain it away. he lied about it. and there were real restrictions placed on what he could say publicly. and if he violated, he could go to jail. i think many people thought the judge might have actually thrown him in jail for what he did, but this is the kind of thing where, you know, you may have donald trump playing with fire right now because he could find himself in very short order with very different first amendment rights if he is actually charged. if you are pending trial, there are restrictions that a judge can place on you, and if there's this kind of violence, which obviously we've seen it come to
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fruition. you can look at paul pelosi. you can look at january 6th, you can look at roger stone and see that there are actions that happen as a constant, which, you know, the former president knows all too well from january 6th. but he really could find himself in deep trouble. >> isn't this tricky f you put a gag order on this, he's running for president, and you're going to walk a fine line with his first amendment rights. is that something that a -- and it would be complicated for a judge? >> it would be, but i guess what i would say is you want to run for president, that's fine. the last time i checked, that doesn't mean threatening people with violence. in other words, it's political speech, and that's fine, but if you want to start threatening the people with actual violence, as you just mentioned, there's nothing that would prevent him from saying don't commit a crime, don't be violent and still running for president. this is not, i think, it's not that complicated, and if he's
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not going to do that, then a judge has the ability to make sure somebody who was out on bail is not endangering the community. . >> andrew weissmann, laura jarrett, thank you for playing on both of our top stories, the breaking news about the letter to alvin bragg, the death threat, and the breaking news of evan corcoran, testified in front of the grand jury in d.c. today. coming up, new details on the deadly iranian drone strike on a military base in syria, killing one american. what is iran trying to do? the pentagon's press secretary joins me in 60 seconds. . switch to verizon and get welcome unlimited for just $25 a line. (seth) i love that it's guaranteed for 3 years. (cecily) yeah, get an awesome network and save money doing it. (seth) not bad. (cecily) you get to keep your phone. more savings. (vo) switch and get welcome unlimited for $25 a line. guaranteed for 3 years. (cecily) hey, that could catch on. (vo) yup! don't wait. switch to verizon today.
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åç'tection of ourxd personnel seriously and we will respond çóó are threatened. >> that was pentagon press secretary pat rider a moment ago,ko■ explaining the decision order counterstrikes againstt(x iranian linked targets in syria. twolpwg believes are ofko■ iranian orig struck two separate bases used by the u.s. military in syria. one of the strikes killed an eastern contractor, andq injure five other american soldiers.t(r let's bringxdc in thew3 pentago press secretary. general, thank you very much for being with us. youq said a moment ago that it sends a very clear message about what the united states will doo in response. what message do you think iran was sending in these two attacks?r >> yeah, first of all,t(lp kati thanks so much forxd having me here fátoday. just to clarify, it wasc iranian, u
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>> look, w3it's no secret to anyone for a very long time, iran conducted these kind of destabilizing activities throughout the region.ipj&h(lc% in part to do that,e1 to trïozf pressure the united states, our partners and ourfáxd fáallies, )p&ly clear the wayq an allow them tos;n export their i of what the region should look ñs;n unfortunately, instead of focusing onñr security and stability in a region that's strife, they continue to be focused on these destabilizing i activities. but that's notçó2dgterred us or our commitmentq to continue to work with our partn■rá in the region to ñiensure3w■ that we c have peace, stability, andxd security throughoutq the middle eastxdxd and beyond. >>jfçóxó you said at the press conference that the radar wasçó working, that you were track thing drone? >> again,lp when it comes to ou individual bases, i'm not going to get into theok specifics of capabilities, other than ts thelp 2 dp) at thet( base, by a
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indications, hadxd appropriate coverageéñ in this particular attack, what we know is that this drone flew in atq a very low altitude. explosive !u■laden. one-way uav. again, conducted this attack.t(f kinds of incidents, u.s. central command will review toxd see wh exactly■7ç happened. but it doesév change the fact that these iranian-backed groups conducted this strike that we took very quick and decisive action to send a w■mm it will not be tolerated. >> if it was bei obvious question is here, why wasn'tl >> qlook, these are the kinds o thingwdu$e review will tell e1u but it's important to remember that we are talking about anfá inherently dangerous location. this is why we have u.s. military forces in that region
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doing this important work. every day they go to work knowing there are threats. we do everything we can, not only here but elsewhere, to take ejtortunately, beca dangerous work that we do, you t incident in thislp particular xd case, but it's not going to stop us from continuing to look at ways to ensure our forces are protected, to include these air strikes we did last lpnight. >> general, thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate you standing by as we got through the president and that breaking news. >> my pleasure. >> that will do it for me today.
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