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election, and encouraging people to gather in washington on january 6th. now their testimony couldçó hel doj fill in the gap of their investigation,cbma11e■ when it comes to trump's conduct jf before, during, and after abc news notes that "some of the

aides that have been ordered to testify have already appeared before the grand jury, but did not answer some questions related tot( interactions with e formerfáq r donald trump is reportedly likely to appeal. joining us nowj are our my guests.lpw3t(fá it is good to see you all. carol, let's start with you. there's always axd pointr trump novela, where you have to got( back to the glossary andok reminded of who all theseq peopp are, now ordered to testify. it's like a who's who of the trump administration. walkm3t through who theyjf are. >> yout( know, you're absolutel right to characteriz]■á it that

way. fos haven't been mentioned in a long time while we have been covering the biden white house. let's take a few thatlp may note familiar with too. kene1 cucinelli, he was a deput in charge of the department of homeland security.

he was alsoñr suggesting sort o wag the dog, or some of his aides were suggestingt( wag the dog moves to create more anxiety and tension, conflict wit(■p foreign powers. and his national security adviser might also have some information about how many classified records ended up let's talk about one more, you know, i find it really interesting, of okcourse. markñi i]meadows, many of his t

have been provided to the who was inc thefb■ñi white hous donald trump's side every single time he had aq series of lawmakers come in to talk about how he could block the transfer of power. members of thet(t( freedom cauc and mark meadowslp was a memberd theq freedomlxaaucus before he s the white house chief of staff, were tryingxd to help donald trp hold onto power, and described privately amongst themselves a maximum pressureok campaign on january 16, toxd stop the certification of thec fávote,t( bully their republican colleagues in congress tookxd m surei] biden was nott( seated essentially at tf%u official appropriate president xdt(elect. >>t(w3 i'm always just astounde carol's knowledge of the trump administration. this is at(i] longc list of nam.

pete, who stands out to you?i]jf >> i think certainly mark meadows, dan scavino, who was doing communications. carol ác absolutely"bcuu abou.3 how critical these people are. what is especially notable about this is what they'refá going to bring to the table in this testimony. you ue7q%=9■ some ofi] them had alreil testified. what they didn't talk about, though, it appears in the first or second session, were the things that trumpxd while many have gone before the grand jury and gone through the january 6÷hv committeelawbuáñ haven't answeredfá questions abt the things that trump himself said to them or that they said to him.xd

they're not at( monolithic grou] there is some indications that john ratcliff,b.■i] the final directorlpt(r intelligence thought they should concede and not object to theñ3 vote. so you'll have axd lot of different viewpointsñr and peop talking about what they said to trump and what trump said back to them. >> the busiest person in was8i'

>> itñi means that to getq?7 to next step in the puzzle, right? first,."■ we have executive privilege. the supreme court has notñ1 8ñ resolved with a former president can assert it. they have another pageé@■ in thf playbook. they are use thing three card monty of privileges.5a■ theñr next is the privilege of self-incrimination. so which of them will agree to ñ testify, assuming thexq;■ supre court says not( executive privilege by a former president, and which of them invokes the privilege against self-incrimination. ñr more likely to put up that final roadblock that doj has a way to get arountéf someone like ken cucinelli -- >> what is a way toñi getok aro? >> the federal government canfá order youñi to compel your testimony, and then it essentially says your testimony will never be used against z(yo so thet( order protects the fif

amendment right of the person by saying okay, i'm now going to direct youc to testify, and 'éá5ut law. and then if they don't want to testify, then they have to defy it and go to jail. >> i want to talk about the timeline on something like that3 but first, ie1 want to talk abo and mark respondet■ like, youc heard qñiitd■k pat.

and i remember patñi sqtr'g to different narratives and possible violations related to the ko■insurrection, which is t fake state of electors,khe interferencep■ georgia withfá

bonnie willis investigating. o me, it's thet( actual invitation, and the planning around this event onxd january h >> just dirty work in general. >> lpcarol, this is from theçó

january 6th hearings on stevenq miller and the speech/at trumpe1 >> as you can see from the president's daily diary here, the president spokejfçó to his f speechwriter steven miller for over 25 minutes that morning.ç

so he'sçóq conferring in realti with the president about what are youx÷=%9 ellipse? wv!u are the two most important things that donald trump said at of an investigator?e perspectiv- one, he said, we're goinglp to march up there, we're all going to go there, i'm going to take you. the second thing that he said

steven miller knows what donald trump told e1him, and what dona trump was looking to accomplish with hisq speech. and no one can say that donald trump spoke to all of these rioters and said here's what i want you to do. but he did tell them, i know )5u're armed. go to theq xdcapitol. ■ knows whatq was inside donald trump's

>> you know, in many ways, he's not as important as markok meadows, because mark is on the president'sw3 shoulder for such la+oq period of time, in every d meeting. and nick■3 luna is not.w3 but also, nick luna'sok role is important because xdhe's almost like a body man in somexd respects. close by to the president, andx also coordinating to some

$1e say,ñi conferring with the secr service about the president's mogu the secre!] service heard about donald trump's plan to parch to theçó capitolfá weeks before,ñ

so what those prosecutors are looking for is that last bit of evidence, the direct evidence thatxd he knew before january 6 that if pence didn't stop thet( certification, that those rioters were going to go into the cap)á[l. they find that direct piece, fá it's game over. >> you know, the facte1 that so many of these figures are sete1o testify now, whatç!"uátj it tel us about the state of this investigation, the timeline in many cases, theyepqxdçó thine been building over the course of months to a crescendo. that trump willxd appeal. i don't expect thejf breakneck d.c. circuit court of appealsñro

rule quickly. i don't think this will move as quickly, but i think yout( will see some attempt to appealq by trump. this islp ultimately the right reading of the law, andq it( th you've got investigators with a sqdñi there's a lote1 of work g on. at least eight p[/ásq werelp

identified who arelpxd going to going in front of the grand juzy% @&h(lc% this tellstpát at theñr very fi end stages of a lot of investigations that arexd takin place up to this point. jp peek into that work. when we come back, the othe■ investigation the justice trump attorney eva back in ae1q courthouse, compel to testify in the mar-a-lago documents cy&m9ñ plus,fá a manhattan grawí"jy has put its trumpt( investigati on hold until after theq weeken. that's leaving the president c■ lot of time to rile up his baseá later in the show, someçó republicans in congress today visiting a d.c. jail showin'■p allegiance to the insurrectionists turned defendants who stormed the capitol. we'll talk to a democrat who

will be there, as well, to make sure the truth about what happened onxd january 6th doesn geá lost in thelp latest gop stunt. all those stories and more when "deadline: white house" fter this.0)p&h(lc,use" contin]#áru oh, my daughter gives the best hugs! we're just passing through on our way to the jazz jamboree. [ imitates trumpet playing ] and we wanted to thank america's number-one motorcycle insurer -for saving us money. -thank you. [ laughs ] mara, your parents are -- exactly like me? i know, right? well, cherish your friends and loved ones. let's roll, daddio! let's boogie-woogie! moderate to severe eczema still disrupts my skin. despite treatment it disrupts my skin with itch. it disrupts my skin with rash. but now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq. rinvoq is not a steroid, topical, or injection. it's one pill, once a day. many taking rinvoq saw clear or almost-clear skin while some saw up to 100% clear skin. and, they felt dramatic and fast itch relief

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what couldñi represent a significant breakthrough for special counsel jack smith's investigation into donald trump's handling of classified documents. that's ctrump'sokw3xdñi attorne corcoran,e1 abc authoriti]yñixd

sources are all remaining documents with classified documents in trump's possession.xd corcoran represented trump before and after that false ?;■ certification, which led the fbi documents at mar-a-lago, and his testimony could prove to be a criticalok building block for jk smith, with new reporting from "the new york times" suggesting he's building a case of obstu?u)jz against the ex-president. we're back now with jim and david. according to the information that have come out of sealed court filings andi]xd closed-do hearings, prosecutors believe they have evidencee1 that mr. trump obstructedxdi]xd thexd go toxd obtain theñi documents.

>> being a lawyer for trump, you need a special insurance policy. but the record looks terrible. did the president know that there were otherxdok classified documents not turned over? did he see a copy of the certification. if he saw it, what was the conversation? those werexnthe questions that corcoran is probablyok going to getxdw3xdxd at. >> i mean, attorney/client privilege isñi at the heart of this, the big thing that jack smith has been going after. why ise1lp that so critical in case? >> in a normal circumstance, if you have an attorney and you give information to the attorney, anything that you tell the attorney isñit(t( cñrxdçóxdñ exception here thatw3 seemsok t at play many times with trump, which isñi the crime/fraud

exception. so if you use the attorney and the attorney advises in a way that furthers the crime, then awñi considers that not then privileged at all, that's why corcoran can be compelled to testif.w3 testif.w3 >> so theçó is suggesting thate1 counsel wa used in furtherance of crime or aw3 fraud. but corcoran did notlp plead th fifth,çó suggesting that he fee as though there's no liability for what he's going to share with the court. so the suggestion thatxd donald heqw3 could have told the president, sir, i don't think

you should have done this. remember, he didn'túq÷5%q■qok t document, another lawyer did. so it's going to beer the my interesting, $52■ oneokxd possiy is they were in itxd together a corcoran is telling it like it p is. another possibility isfá hei] advised against it. >> i love that you are not i want to read you something lisa ruben wrote for xdmsnbc.co about why trump didn't seek supreme cq5tá intervention. p" p" petitione■3 the supreme co stay corcoran's testimony, the justices would have seen some, if not all of what judge howell and the three-judge panelxd an" the d.c. circuit have okreviewe criminal conduct. yrñ i saw thatñi when it was ond of stroke of genius.t( butw3 remember what's at stake ( here. i think that trumpfái] believes they're never going to prosecute ?ásp'y other people had clad

d:gjujuáip &h(lc% >> even though there are fundamental different lenses >> you're asking me whether the president understands obstruction? >> fair enough, fair enough.i]xq there's some questions iñi admi we can't answer. i wantñr to talk about jennifer little. there's reporting that howellwc ordered little to testify. she currently represents trump "prosecutors are interested inp ms. little because she was one of the few criminal defense lawyers working directlyr mr.e1 trump when the mar-a-lago ñáter heated up at department," according to two people briefed on the matter. shee1 counseledt(q mr.s)ump to cooperative, anmóú soon after mr.xd corcoran was brought onr

what does that tell you? >> that's a wonderful thing. but listen, you've seen thisu play outçó again and again. it's not just because lawyers aren't getting paid by trump, he does that too.ñi it's because he puts lawyers in arf [ery difficult position whe ?áu$ey tell him, mr. presid you're about toçó step over an important line, and he steps over it any way. so i don't think she's going to be alone.fáz#-■ but i think that isçóq going to more proof toó[■ distinguishçó mar-a-lago case in the other cases. >> one reason corcoran and othe( attorneys that are happy to &h(lc% violation. a 4-year-old could understand donaldnptrump's behavior. when theyfá signed the certification, there were about 40 documents, they said this isó it. when thesv4 search happened, th were 100 more. this is different than0l■ bidend a

when this certification was signed. >> thank you. up next, the latest on the attacks andt( the threats and intimidation lobbed at thejfp,■ manhattan d.a. investigating the manhattan d.a. investigating the ex-president.&gmqe

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we don't want alvin bragg and his family to bet(ñi victimized despite people's opinion of what mayçó or may not happen withçó . >> rev, david jolly here. one of the taqsqj broadly for the entizev republican party is that the government, a deep state force, being weaponized againste1 republicans and donal trump. that'sfá a theme almost agnosti of thexd issue of race. but it seems in this matter with alvin bragg and dona the issue ofok race is unmistakable. would you agree with that? >> absolutely. when you hear donald trump say ■w3 ai] st(e1 a soros pers soros sponsored animal, you're definitelyi] dealing withq çó anti-semit)$s, going back to th( 1920sr coalition through the civilxd

rights movement of dr. king. all the wayr callingñi this man an animal, ls than human.fáxd let's not forget, david, that donald trump started his[o■ political career as the face of theçó birtherism movement that barack obama was not one of us. het(çó is really african. he's back at itlp again. he's ançó animal, sponsored by d jews. the racial kind of rhetoric isç something that he has used all i] would think after january 6th,

>>ñi many of trump's followers took to social media to declare they were ready tot( answxx trump's call. one userñr asked, is the 6th d-day, is that why trumpñi want everyone there? another asserted, trumplp just told us all to come?7vi] armed. [ bleep ]-a, this is happening. a th9r3■ took it even fur-úuyx it will be wild, means we need volunteers for the firing squadp >> i mean, xdrev,lpl8■t(çó we a

it what it is, racist, anti-semitic, dangerous. beyond that, what should we be doing to makew3 sureok that something like w3t(that, we jus1 heard, doesn't happen again? show that people will be punished. i think that we have got to call onr iate what donald trump is saying■3fác for him to repostok afát( photom holding a bat to the district c attorney's face, if that's not suggesting violence, what is? and i think that thei] silence those that are in his party, i think that gives a condoning of what it is that we fear could happen if we dov."t putok our as aroundc this situation now,q ani tt and others, despite whatever they come with, i have no idea, i know alvin bragg, ifá have no ia

what the grand jur9hns going to do. but i feel for him and hisfá family, and we're a!d÷t( prayin for them because we can see from january 6th what could happen.w3 >> even when you don't agree with public servants, they should be kept safe. i think we talk about accountability, and it seems $— retrospectively. this is a reminder part of■k th reason americans want to see accountability is because it will determine actions and responses moving forward. >> yeah. one of the things that canñi be done is prosecutors can go after donald trump right now on a number of issues. andçó actually apply the laww3 somebody who continues to incite violence and don't overthink all of the otherlp charges. you can issue those later. butçó stop this man from engagi in this type of behavior that leads to the threats against alvin bragg. we know from the departmentlp o homeland secuu+)e■ for several years running thatlp the risg3 white nationalists sympathizers

onc domestic soili] wishin'ñá t cause harm to government officials is on the rise.r dhs continues to tell us that. throw in this toxic mix of 0 either trump supporters or thee groups adjacent to donald trump, the groups we saw on january 6th. what happens in the media andt( among democratic opponentsq of republicans who stay silent like jim jordt said so. i didn't see the tweet about death andq destruction. lay the issueht■ of race in the lap and make them 0l■defend it. don't use kidr did you see this tweet? make themc defend the racist troeps donald trump says and don't let them offt( the r democrats, honestly, havet( a tough time calling something what it is, because we try to give equityoh,=■ arguments, all these other xdexcuses. make republicans defend the nd the calls to violencethe

offá donald trump, and don't le them off the ropes. >> there's real consequences to all this,t( cbs newss7■ reporti that intelligence sources tracked a significantlp increas in deaths, in w3threats, inr violent rhetoricu >> i want to welcome my friend, to canada this. we had the opportunity to discussñi the progress made und theñi february 2021 road map foó renewed u.s.-canada partnership. a plan our countries put forwar■ aw3t( month after he was sworn .

[ speaking non-english ]u strengthening the economy,jf making life morec affordable fo people, fighting climate change, and protecting the environment. protecting our citizens and our values. >> in thi7 serious time, with all the challenges weñixd face, arer partnership agt!on our fr!e(dship.xd as i said earlier today, jjáájt policy,ñi climat, and security policy, aren't jus3 connected, they're one in the same.xde1my■c both the president andxd i agre on this. that's why we launched a jointo energy transformation taskñi fo( that will accelerate our work on clean engúe■ and clean tech. this will include securing and

of course, anok integrated approach means creates jobs for %-pinstallations in quebec to develop new capacity.qñi demand is on the rise,ñr as is competition. canada's investment in semi

conductors, which willi] be upw $250 million, will make ijd possible to enhanceçó theok competitivety of the north we share three oceans and the great lakes.w3 the great lakes are a source of drinkingi] waterñr for 40 milli people, and this shared resource needs to be protected. this is why canadaçó will make major newe1 investment of $420 iwlion to continue s the great ló+#s for generations to come.e1 whether it's on protecting our shared waters, including in the arctic, conserving biodiversity or building strong net zerolp economies, cap da and the u.s.

will continue toy as partners and continue to work together as partners to keep our people safe. keeping people safe alsoe1 and border security. this is why we willxd now apply &rq safe thirdq cou( to asylumçó seekers who cross between official points of entry. afterxd midnight tonight, the police and borderi] officer als return regular border crossers toñi the closest place ofñi ent with the united states.t( [ speaking non-english ] >> translator: when the agreemente1lp comes intow3 forc of midnight tonight,e1t( border officers will return people crossing the border to the

closest canada-u.s. borderok crossing. our teams have worked hard to achieve this agreement. all of the work will make it possibvex tov$'ter irregular immigration at ourt( boarders, while ati] the same time, we incrduáq regular migration and immigration. >> last year, i had the opportunity to visit norad personnel in colorado. detecting, deterring, and defending against aerospace threats to our shared continent. norad has protected north america for over 60 years, andl we're continuing our work to meet thefj$q+olving security challenges we face today. years. canada is making major investments for surveillance systems and we will invest to modernize and build through infrastructure to support the arifle of the 88 new fighter

jets so we can support our men and women in uniform who keep us safe. this bolsters the defense abilities for the coming decades. protecting the countries also means continuing the work to make the borders more secure and keep people safe. the opioid overdose crisis is having devastating effects in the community. canada and the united states will build a global coalition against synthetic drugs. we must stop the traffic while at the same time focusing on a public health response. to keep people safe at home we have to defend the values around the world like democracy, the rule of law and respect for the international rules based order.

today we affirmed the steadfast support of the ukrainian people against the invasion. >> translator: we also talked about other parts of the world with difficulties like haiti. as i said canada will keep haiti in the heart of the solution for resolving this crisis. canada will invest additional $100 million to provide better police support to the national police force in haiti. we'll impose sanctions on two other members of the haitian elite. we are determined to increase international support for haiti including through humanitarian assistance. president biden and i had very productive meetings. as i said earlier the economic

measures are also climate measures, security measures. the president recognizes the importance of acting on all of these fronts. >> time we stood together in this very room you were the outgoing vice president and we were embarking upon some challenging times in our relationship as a country, two as friend and countrys. i have to say through our conversations back then, through the work we have been able to do over the pags two years it's truly been an honor to be able to work with you to the benefit of canadians and americans, but also to continue to have a positive impact on the world in a very uncertain time. your speech in parliament was filled with optimism grounded in a deep faith in people. and the character of the

citizens we serve and the ability to step up and meet the challenges before us. like we have for many years we will continue to work shoulder to shoulder to build a better future for canadians and americans alike. it is always a pleasure to stand beside and work with you. right now it is a pleasure to hand it over to you. >> thank you very much, mr. prime minister. i can't think of a challenge we haven't met together. before i speak of the progress of this trip i was informed on the way over here about an attack in syria yesterday and the iranian backed militant groups used an unmanned aerial vehicle to cause casualties. a citizen died in that attack and on the flight up here

yesterday i spoke to the national security team and ordered an immediate response. last night they targeted those for attacking the personnel. my heart goes out to the family of the american we lost and wish the speedy recovery for the wounded and grateful for the professionalism of the service members who carried out the response. the united states does not seek conflict with iran but be prepared for a strike forcefully to protect our people. that's what happened last night. we'll continue to keep up the efforts to counter attacks and partnerships with canada to defeatju@ isis. now, let me get to today's business. wonderful to be back in canada.

i'm honored. i had a chance to address parliament this afternoon. they're very patient. a little over 75 years in an address to parliament president truman said no two countries are called to the world's rehabilitation and we are making great contributions to the rehabilitation in my view. today the inflection point in history. the nations are once again called upon to lead and together i believe we're answering the call. first we have unleashed an economic potential of the people and the partnership with $2.5 billion in trade every single day. we transform the hemisphere into a clean energy powerhouse. as discussed we are also

strengthening the supply chains for a critical minerals that power the every day lives. today we are making a $50 million available through the defense production act to incentivize companies to invest in packaging of the semiconductors. we see this through norad working to modernize the world and the only binational military command. none other in the world. we see it through nato where we are ensuring to meet any threat. over the last year through the strong and unified support of the people of ukraine. stepping in to provide aid as well as security assistance. for canada's embrace of

ukrainian refugees. as we head to the second year of russia's brutal invasion our unity is not going to break. we are going to keep the pressure on putin through the sanctions and tariffs and provide ukraine with training, equipment, assistance and defend against russian aggression. we are exploring the regional collaboration. as we discussed today we're doubling down on the work to disrupt synthetic drugs that claim too many lives. by bolstering the work together on the north american drug dialogue with mexico and building on a new global coalition we are working to get the drugs like fentanyl out of the communities. together under the los angeles

declaration and the prime minister spoken to we're making good on the immigration. since dedicating pathways the illegal imgrants on the border have dropped. opening new legal pathways up to 15,000 migrants to come to canada. mr. prime minister, canada and the united states has been partners in progress and today we are called to lead. i know that the united states can count on canada to be a friend, doing the hard, historic work that matters and together. i truly believe we will make some great cob contributions. i'm optimistic. i am. a better future for the people of canada and american people and around the world.

thank you. >> thank you, mr. president. mr. prime minister, we'll take two questions from the american and canadian delegation. one question, one follow-up. mr. president, one question over to you. >> all right. the first person to call on is josh. josh? >> thank you, mr. president. two questions. one for each of you. mr. president, you talked today about the security and economic partnership with canada. president xi just went to russia and expanded china's economic commitment with that country. why do you think many leading countries are choosing to form competing partnerships and what does that mean for the world? >> prime minister trudeau? canada recently banned tiktok on government devices.

are you comfortable with the idea of your children or family members using tiktok? thank you. >> i respond to the question first? look. in ten years russia and china have had 40 meetings. 40 meetings. i disagree with the basic premise of the question. we have, you know, significantly expanded our alliances. i haven't seen that happen with china or anybody else in the w0r8d. we are in a situation in the united states where nato is stronger. we're all together. the g7, the quad, asean. i have now met with 80% of the world leaders just as president. we are the ones expanding the

alliances. the opposition is not. name for me where that's going. and tell me what -- i don't mean literally but rhetorically. tell me how, in fact, you see a circumstance where china made some significant commitment to russia. what commitment can they make? economically. economically. they their trade increased, sir. >> compared to what? look. look. i don't take china lightly. i don't take russia lightly but i think we vastly exaggerate. i've been hearing now for three months about china's going to provide significant weapons to russia and they will -- been talking about that. they haven't yet. doesn't mean they won't but they haven't yet. and if anything's happened the west has coalecsed significantly

more. how about what we have done? i just want to put it in perspective why i don't take it lightly what japan -- excuse me, china and russia are doing. we are united coalitions. we, we. the united states and canada. >> on tiktok, we made a similar decision to the american government and others saying we do not feel that the security profile is a safe for government issued phones. there are concerns around privacy and security and banned tiktok from government issued phones. the question, josh, was about what i do as a parent of teenagers.

and my kids on social media. on that -- on that, i am obviously concerned with the privacy and security which is why i'm glad on their phones that happen to be issued by the government they don't issue tiktok. really? applied to us? yes. i did that. i think as parents we are understanding particularly of teenagers how much of the kids' lives are lived online and how much they are impacted not just by influence the way their friends are and peer pressure that we all went through as teenagers but a degree of misinformation and malicious activity allowed for by incredible technologies that we benefit from. we have to make sure we do what we have to do to push back

against hate speech and inviations to violence online. as a parent, spend a lot of time talking to my kids about what's online and try to go outside and play a little more sports and not get so wrapped up to the phones. we continue to do that. the concerns around tiktok are security and access to information that the chinese government could have to government phones. it's just a personal side benefit my kids can't use tiktok anymore that i use everyone to use my encouragement to try to do. >> translator: now to a canadian question. >> translator: i'd like to ask about roxanne road. the agreement is ready for a year.

why did you wait so long and for the 15,000 migrants that canada will welcome why so few? what are we offered to the u.s. in exchange? thank you, christian. we have known for a long time theoretically what modernization needed to be made to the agreement. we couldn't simply shut down roxanne road and hope everyone would resolve itself. the border is very long. people would have looked for other places to cross so that's why we chose to modernize the agreement so that someone attempting to cross between official crossings will be subject to the principle, the same principle as someone who

should seek asylum in the first safe country they arrive at. for people coming from the u.s., that is where they should be asylum seekers. using this means of uniformly applying the agreement which we knew thet rhett cli would be the solution but it takes processes to manage the border. it took months before we could move forward with the announcement but protected the integrity of the system and we also are continuing to live up to the obligations with respect to asylum seekers. at the same time we continue to be open to regular migrants and

we'll increase the number of asylum seekers we accept from the hemisphere in order to compensate. for closing the irregular crossings. thank you. >> mr. president, this question is for you. >> translator: please feel free, mr. trudeau, to answer, as well. are you disappointed that canada is not part or taken a bigger role in to the multilateral forces in haiti and what would you like canada to do more in addition to the $100 million announced today? >> this is a very, very difficult circumstance. the idea of how do we deal with what's going on in haiti where gangs have essentially taken the place of the government in effect. they have run -- they rule the

roost as the saying goes so i think that what the prime minister spoken about makes a lot of sense. biggest thing we could do and it takes time is to increase the prospect of the police departments in haiti having the capacity to deal with the problems they face and takes time. we also are looking at whether or not the international community through the united nations to play a larger role in this event, this circumstance. but there's no question that there is a real genuine concern because there are several million people in haiti and the diaspara could cause some -- how can i say it? confusion in the western hemisphere. i think that what the prime minister is suggesting to see if

we could both increase the efficiency capacity of the methods by the police department and engage other people in the hemisphere and they are prepared to do some so this is work in progress. >> translator: for 30 years western countries have been involved in haiti to try to stabilize the country. to try to help the pearl of the antilles and the situation is atrocious. it's affecting the security of the people of haiti. we must take action. and we must keep the haitian people in the approach that we

build for security and that's why the approach that we are working on with the u.s. involves strengthening the capacity of the haitian national police, bringing more peace and security and stability. this won't happen tomorrow. it will, of course, be a long process but we will be there to support the capacity of the national police in haiti. at the same time part of the insecurity and instability in haiti is because of the haitian elite who have for too long benefited from the misery of the haitian people. they work for their own political gain, their own personal gain. and this is prevented the

country from recovering and proceeding with sanctions. we will continue to bring pressure to bear on the elite, the political class in haiti. to hold them accountable. for the distress facing the haitian people but the hold them accountable for ensuring their well-being. we will continue to work together. we fully understand how important this task is. >> mr. president, over to you. >> can i follow up with one point on haiti? and that is that any decision about military force which has been raised we think would have to be done in consultation with the united nations and the haitian government. that is not off the table but not in play at the moment. i'm sorry. >> over to you for the question, mr. president. jordan, you have a question?

>> thank you, mr. president. some of wall street has said it is unclear what more the administration is willing to do to solve the banking crisis. the markets have remained in turmoil so how confident are you that the problem is contained and if it's spread what measures like guarantees deposits are you willing or not willing to take? >> have you ever known wall street not in consternation? i think we have done a pretty damn good job. the people's savings are secured. fdic is guaranteeing them. the banks are in pretty good shape. what is going on in europe isn't a consequence of what is happening in the united states. i -- what we would do is if we find that is more instability

than appears we would be in a position to have the fdic use the power to guarantee those loans above 250 like they did already. and so, i think it's going to take a little while for things to calm down. i don't see anything that's on the horizon about to explode. but i do understand there's an unease about this. and the mid sized banks have to be able to survive and i think they'll be able to do that. >> mr. prime minister, the u.s. is included canada in luxury vehicle subsidies as you discussed included in the inflation reduction act but raises some competitiveness concerns and challenges for canada. president biden supports american provisions strongly and led to some trade tensions so are you planning to announce anything in the budget to keep up sort to speak and are you

asking the u.s. government for exceptions to the buy america provisions? >> first of all, there's nothing new about canada remaining competitive with the united states as a place for investment. that's something we have long known as a friendly competition. right now we are in a time where joe talked about it as an inflection point. i think that is exactly right. we can feel the global economy shifting. shifting in very real ways towards lower carbon emission technology. great jobs in the natural resource and manufacturing industries that will be increased on our continent after years of outsourcing and offshoring. there is a real opportunity and the ira which is bringing in

massive investments and opportunities for american workers and companies is also going to have strong chains and employees in canada. yes, we will have to have make sure we stay competitive and targeting the areas to compete. we'll have more to say on that next week but let's step back and see that north america, canada and the united states in particular, are incredibly well positioned to be the purveyors of solution and economic growth that the net zero economy around the world will need over the coming decades. the innovation, the know-how, the ability of us to make big things together leave us in a

time of global uncertainty. extremely certain that we are well placed in the future. investments to go to second in the world in terms of battery supply chain. whether it is continuing our leadership on the cleanest aluminum in the world, moving to cleaner steel. whether it is moving forward on critical minerals that the world is understanding they cannot rely on placing like china or russia for. that they can rely on canada to be not just a purveyors of ores but finished materials built in responsible ways, strong

communities and the kind of leadership that the world is looking for. there's long been a bit of a weakness i think to the argument as western democracies that says that our model is the best one leading to prosperity but so much of the model we turned the back to the fact it relied on cheap imports of goods or resources from the world that didn't share the values and work responsible on the environment or human rights or labor standards. what we are doing right now is showing that we can and will build resilient supply chains between us and with friends around the world that adhere every step of the way to the values that we live by.

that make sure that there are good jobs. for workers and communities, urban and rural right across the continent. good careers for kids long in the future. how well we are positioned to see the future and meet the future. that's why it's so exciting to be able to work alongside joe in these challenging times where we know we are better positioned than just about anyone else and the friends that share the values around the world will benefit and those that choose to continue to turn their backs on the environment, on human rights, on the values of freedom and dignity for all will increasingly not be able to benefit from the growth that our

societies, communities create every day. >> by the way, we have what the other needs. the idea that somehow canada is somehow put at a disadvantage because we will be investing billions of dollars in their ability to package what is coming out of semiconductor area, i don't get it. how does that do anything but bring millions of dollars into canada. i don't understand how talk about how we, we greatly need canada in terms of the minerals that are needed. well, you guys we don't have the minerals to mine. you can mine them. you don't want to produce -- or i mean turn them into product. we do. i'm a little confused at at

least thus far on why this is a disadvantage for canada and the united states. i think we each have what the other needs. let me conclude by saying, you know, when i started talking about to build the economies from the middle out and the bottom up and not the top down, i was being literal because what happened is and when you think about it and republican and democratic administrations beginning over 30 years ago in the united states corporate america decided to export jobs and import product. because it's cheaper labor. guess what. now we are making sure they import jobs here, jobs here. we export product. canada's doing the same thing.

this is a real shift in the world economy. in terms of what we are prepared to do. as long as i'm president where we have to rely on the supply chain and affected by politics, pandemics or anything else. we are not hurting anyone with access to the start of the supply chain. it's available. but again, i predict to you you will see after we are out of the office, china out of the game with the product they produce and the united states and canada pretty solid economically situated for future to bring back manufacturing jobs. sorry. and they're telling me i'm talking too long because we got to go to dinner.

>> thank you. >> translator: we'll take one last question. >> my first question is for the prime minister. mr. president, feel free to weigh in before my follow-up. we know that you have apointed a special repertoire but do you believe he add investigated for the release of the two michaels? >> he gave a strong speech and we fully accept that he is stepping away from the liberal caucus to contest the allegations. but i do want to take a step back. and point out that foreign interference, interference by governments like china, russia, iran and others is a very real challenge to our democracies and it's absolutely unacceptable.

it is why over the past number of years the president and i have had many conversations about this and will continue to work together with the democratic allies around the world to keep the institutions and the democracies safe from foreign interference. in 2018 we created the g7 rapid response mechanism to protect the democracies in cases of interference. we'll continue to work together to do everything necessary to protect our democracies which by definition are more open and therefore more vulnerable to foreign actors trying to weigh in in our politics, in our business, in our research institutions and impact on citizens themselves which is why over the past years canada like

our allies around the world given itself new rigorous tools to counter form interference and with the work that our expert repertoire will do, the parliamentarians will be doing and other institutions we'm continue to do everything necessary to keep canadians safe. >> nothing to add. >> thank you. mr. president, when you took office you canceled the keystone pipeline. at the same time you're approving oil drilling in alaska. what is the response to people saying it is hypocritical to stymie canadian projects while

allowing your own? >> i don't think it is. i'll be very brief. the difficult decision was on what we do with willow project in alaska. and my strong inclination is to disapprove across the board but the counsel advice is i may very well lose in court, lose that case in court to the oil company. and then not be able to do what i want to do beyond that and that is conserve significant amounts of alaskan sea and land forever. i was able to see to it to conserve millions of acres. not a few. millions of acres forever. i am banking on, we'll find out,

that the oil company will say that won't be challenged and go with three sides and the energy to be produced there estimated to account for 1% of the total production of oil in the world. so i thought it was a good -- the better gamble and a hell of a tradeoff to have the artic ocean and bearing sea off limits forever. i think we put more land in conservation than any other administration than roosevelt administration. >> that concludes the press conference. >> thank you. >> mr. president, do you have an opinion on the -- >> we have been watching president biden with canadian prime minister trudeau with a bilateral news conference in

ottawa. watching with us is ben rhodes, former congressman david jolly with me. they talked about economic growth, climate change, asylum and migration, democracy and the rule of law specifically relating to russia. there's a question about russia and china that president pushing back saying that it is the united states that is committed to building alliance. >> it was interesting. i have some experiences with presidents that dance a little bit. my old boss used to do that. you could sense that president biden was a little bit annoyed at the nature of the coverage of xi jinping's visit to russia as

a huge event relevant to what the united states is doing in ukraine. now, to step back, it does matter that xi jinping went there. that is a problem and it seeks to china siding with russia and buying more energy from russia. i think it is something to be concerned about. that said, i think president biden has a good case which is look at what we are doing. the collective democracies of the world with what we do to arm ukraine and support them, that is far above any support that china is providing. he is right and the core argument. same time we can't minimize the concern of what china is doing. a sub text of this press conference, both went out of the way to tie just about everything, support of ukraine, whether the common work in

developing clean energy and supply chains or whether just values they went out of the way to frame the relationship. this is very much a cold war 2.0 press conference with the leaders talking about what they are doing to deal with the competition from china and russia. >> i want to follow up on the geopolitical tension that you mentioned because it is true that the economic relationship between china and russia has increased since the u.s. and the west sanctioned russia over the ukraine war. the numbers are the numbers. the president had an opportunity there to address the response that we took in syria to the iranian originated uab that took the life of an american contractor and said we do not seek conflict but there is an

emerging, strengthening alliance between russia, china, syria and iran and with the uab, that alliance is reflected in the loss of an american life. the obama administration that you had a strong hand in the agreement ushered in. a question could biden restart that. it seems that it's a long ways from that relationship. >> no, that's right. i think that the increasing aggressive nature of iran's attacks on the presence in syria has to be seen in the context out broader political tension. they are drawn closer in the same way at the west supportering ukraine. we see drones as part of the russian playbook in ukraine. china brockering a deal and in

the middle east as a player to ways that goes beyond what china has done in the past. they are most engaged in election interference in the united states and canada. so i think we are in a new era where essentially the teams have been drawn up. there's the clear who is on our side. but with democracies essentially but increasing axis with china, russia and iran and saudi arabia and some other countries trending in that direction, too. this is a nature of the world to be in for years to come and probably more flashpoints in places like syria, across the middle east with iran. ukraine with cross and taiwan with china. this is the nature of the world to live in for five to ten

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we know that marjorie taylor greene and crew already have a large microphone.

doesn't matter if we were there or not. we know that the media is going to cover anything that they do. but the problem is that if no one were to show up there's no one to counter and absolutely no one to tell the truth about what was going on behind bars. we won't be allowed to have a cell phone so the truth will be whatever it is that we recall it to be and just like they have said time and time again this is a tour, not an insurrection. we need to make sure that someone tells an actual account of what the nature of this visit really showed. my job is to make sure that i report the truth. >> the congresswoman of texas laying out the stakes of today, she along with the next guest two democrat that is took part in fact republican led trip to a jail in d.c. to look at the conditions where january 6 rioters are being held.

greene said the defendants are political prisoners. a part of the effort to whitewash the mob. they assured that thakt refute any lies told by the republicans. the gop⌟q effort to garnish support comes against the backdrop of the legal bombshell that mark meadows and others ordered to testify in the jack smith investigation. as we get potentially closer to accountability, republicans are digging in the heels to defend those that stormed the capitol to overthrow a government proceeding. injured 140 police officers. damaged property and damaged to kill the then vice president.

next week the first findings of the investigation and making good to investigate the investigators with the new house majority. joining us is democratic congressman of robert garcia a member of the house homeland security and oversight committee back with me. thank you so much for being with us. talk to us about the experience today. what it was that you saw at this jail. >> yeah. thank you. first, it was hard to see. at the end of the day we were there. we saw the insurrectionists that attacked the capitol and hurt law enforcement officials so to be there was difficult. the worst part is seeing the inmates, the republicans rush to them and talking to them, patting them on the back. interacting with them. they showed no remorse. these are people treating

fairly. their tablets for entertainment. obviously being treated by the folks that are there with what their needs are. can communicate with the families. they did huge harm to the country and seeing marjorie taylor greene going on media lying about the terrible conditions is not true. >> i do find it ironic that republicans have an interest in jail conditions when we know there are conditions around the world where inmates have real challenges. sounds like that's not what you saw today. i have a blunt question about republican leadership in the house. there's analysis that i have engaged in that kevin mccarthy engaged in the bargain to empower them to chase the defense of the insurrection and position kevin mccarthy as kind of the guy who just had to go along with it but it appears

that he is part of it and kevin mccarthy with the strength to elevate the sympathies that he is just as guilty. >> that's correct. he's given away the keys to leadership. this party is run by greene and gohmerit. to see her treating the folks like heroes is a shameful moment. walking out of the jail cell they started to chant let's go brandon. this is a shameful moment. they committed a horrible crime and treated like heroes so i think kevin mccarthy is responsible for this. i'm glad that myself and

representative crockett asked by the leadership to attend and be able to tell the truth about the conditions and to call out the lies that are made by the republicans. >> congressman, go back to the stakes which is the efforts to whitewash what happened on january 6. they are still going on and going strong two years later. that is why they were there today. who do you make sure that the truth is recorded? >> i think by doing what we did today which is -- back on the lies. just today greene said that there was no insurrection. that is unbelievable. you have to watch television, look at news reports to know there was a deadly attack against the capitol. to lie is shameful. i think what we have to do as democrats is focus on the truth. take on the extreme republicans every day.

i think it was a good decision for the committee to send us to bear witness to what was happening because what's coming out from the republicans is fabrications. i think we continue to push back and i think the public knows what happened. and aren't buying what the republicans are trying to do. >> just underscore something that david said. there is an important national conversation to be had about treatment in prisons, about criminal justice reform. this is not the way to do that. >> absolutely. will be. there are black and brown folks and inmates across the country in much worse conditions than what we saw today. there is real conversation about criminal justice reform, around jail reform that has to happen. the inmates today are in open areas. able to be outside the cells all

day. they have tablets with entertainment. so i wish republicans and the members of the oversight committee on the other side as interested in criminal justice reform for everybody in the country than the obsession with january 6 insurrectionists. >> thank you so much. congressman garcia and congresswoman crockett will be on at 7:00 p.m. joining us now is kim sicknick. thank you so much for being with us. i think there are a lot of us who watched this display and are horrified because we feel like we lost something on january 6 as a country. you lost you brother to the violence. talk to us how it feels then today for lawmakers to defend and celebrate the rioters.

>> it's always been a salt in the face. it started before them doing this today. when my mother invited to the capitol building to speak with some of the senators about putting together a january 6 committee, people including kevin mccarthy staring out the window. lindsay graham tapping on the desk. so they started to ignore it right away but to go in there and claim the people are nonviolent trump supporters, the only political prisoners are the lawmakers, well'll call them that, that showed the feelty to donald trump. over 1,000 people arrested for

this. 20 of them are in that prison. so if they for some reason think that that's an example of what's going on it is not. the people that are there in that particular one are the oath keepers. have been charged with serious crimes. at least 17 of them are -- have been charged with a violent crime against police officers. this is a party that claims they back the blue. 140 police officers injured. my brother brian died. whether they believe that he died, had the stroke on january 6. he died on january 7. it is a clown show. i hope that the correctional officers check themselves on the way in. >> you mentioned the department

of justice arrested upwards of 1,000 individuals. several hundred convicteded and individuals are sentenced with each week that passes. politically little accountability is available for the likes of greene and others. but i wonder if you think there are charges that do need to be brought against any political actors and donald trump. do you think that donald trump should be criminally charged for the events of january 6? >> yes. absolutely. he is the head of the snake. he incited the insurrection. his rhetoric, the speeches. he got the people hyped up. his lies months before january 6. he is responsible. he is not solely responsible. the insurrectionists, the people that charged the capitol and wept to the capitol are also

responsible. to these poor, innocent victims that are in prison right now they committed crimes. they assaulted police officers. there's a congressman, a former congressman that mentioned that conservatives don't wear gas masks and bring weapons to protest. well, they brought weapons. he said actually that they bring flags. they did. with pointed ends that they attacked the police officers with. >> ken, i'm struck by the fact that you had kevin mccarthy meeting with the mother of ashley babbitt yesterday. your brother and other officers had to fight for weeks to get that meeting. what does that tell you? >> it really every time they do something like this it hurts. it's disrespectful to my family, to the capitol police. to the metropolitan police.

it physically and emotionally really does hurt every time they do something like that. she was warned at least five times to back away why the crowd was. she continued. whether she was all amped up to do it, she was warned before she got shot so honestly she was part of the problem. she shouldn't have been part of the mob and didn't have to participate. i have no sympathy for her. >> thank you for sharing the perspective. our panel weighs in on the jailhouse stunt by the gop and what may be the former president's most overt embrace of violent domestic terrors yet. stay with us. is halfway down th♪ ♪ well, you can say that -- ♪ wait, what?

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>>. they're going to have law infers march officials call the trump folks and say keep the rhetoric down? i think we all have the same suspicions about how that would likely go. what then do you do? >> well, i mean, first of all, the proud boys, the oath keepers, they have their origin in standoffs like waco, right? the kind of violence antigovernment extremism that was represented at waco, has now been mainstreamed into the republican party by donald trump. he's been competent at -- asking them to stand back, not stand down, right? >> i would be mapping the violent extremist threats that

we face in the united states to a lot of these group. >> you would want to be offer whatever federal assistance is necessary, but the reality is, this is a problem that can only be solved by the american public, and frankly by the republican party, saying this is not the mainstream of our party. we don't want donald trump and what he represents. until that happens, this is the threat we'll be living about. >> mary mcchord, ben rhodes, thank you both. david jolley, we spent as much time together as biden and trudeau. thank you for staying. thank you for lets us home into your fridays. nicolle returns on friday. "the beat with ari m