walk with, her. i loved her. and i do love her. still. >> you got a lot of life left. a lot. how are you going to live it? >> to the best of my abilities. >> there are jurors who think he might have done it. but i had a reasonable doubt. i couldn't vote to convict. >> well, god bless them. there's a lot of people that do believe in me. >> he's made his own peace with a simple truth, the very thing that freed him, reasonable doubt, could also shadow conrad truman for the rest of his life. >> that's all for "dateline". i'm natalie morales. thanks for watching. >> happy saturday, and.

>> i almost got my coffee. >> are you ready to go? fantastic. you're watching morning joe weekend. 20 hours have made during the week aren't enough. it's kind of suffocating for you? >> he has suffocating. >> let's take a look, our top stories from the week. >> the grand jury assembled by the manhattan district attorney's office, met yesterday, for the second time this week. after being told not to convene on wednesday. but for reasons unknown, sources tell nbc news that the group discussed matters separate from the hush money case involving trump. and former porn star stormy daniels. it's not unusual for a grand jury to hear multiple cases at the same time, the group is unlikely to meet again until monday at the earliest. we will keep you posted. meanwhile, the manhattan district attorney's office is

slamming top house republicans for launching an investigation into the da's investigation of trump. in a letter obtained by nbc news yesterday, a general counsel for the da's office responded to a gop requests from early in the week. which called on district attorney alvin bragg, to testify before congress about his ongoing probe. that request was made by the judiciary committee chair, jim jordan. oversight committee chair, james comer. and administration committee chairman brian, in the letter they claim that the da's office was quote, about to engage in an unprecedented abuse of prosecutorial authority by indicting trump. but the only person who ever claimed in certainty that trump should be indicted. but let's remember, was trump itself. in his own social media post this weekend, on his own truth

social. and that response, the council for the da's office says that the republican request was an unprecedented inquiry into a local prosecution, that only came after donald trump created a falsification that he would be arrested. she added that the request treads on the territory very clearly reserved for the state. >> national affairs -- and also with us nbc politics nation, -- , and publisher and editor in chief of the political report, amy walter. john, i don't know, let's start with you. if you are in tierney general of the united states of america, and a lot of yahoo's start talking about you in congress. you just keep your head down, and you ignore it. your pale about the presidents, and the committee, so often and probably better to keep your head down.

if you are an elected official outside of washington d.c., and the people put you in there. you know what, you've got the wherewithal to fire off a letter, and tell somebody to go straight to hell if they're in kissing it something you didn't do. and yesterday, that's something that the brags people felt the freedom to do. >> they felt the freedom to do it, they did it forcefully, but i will tell you. if you think about the atmospherics around what's happening in new york city over the course of the week. you have from the moment that trump came on's truth social last weekend, and called on his supporters to protest. some would say that those incitement to riot. some would say that it's reminiscent of some of the calls that he put out for january 6th. that echoes were strongly there. you saw the police barricades were out around new york city. that's something i saw here in the city. who had the police department

who told the officers, starting tuesday to go out in their dress blues. and projects some sense of force. and then you have trump yesterday, and the mayor was talking about this in the sixth day and our. or the 5 am hour. that, i don't know how far you want to go with this, but the trump staff from yesterday, and today, the images that he put forward. the language is that he used. the constant attacks all week. trying to tie brag to george surrells. antisemitic dog whistles. the references to brag as an animal, as someone who is human scum. doing the work is the devil. >> weijia, here we go. if this isn't fascist type language, and imagery, here you have a former president of the united states. let's face, it republicans, he is your guy. he's the head of your party. with a baseball bat and a split screen. and a prosecutor. who he is calling human scum.

is that, i'm sorry, is that straight out of not see germany? calling him him in scum, calling him an animal. doing the george soros fight. we're gonna dig into that. about why that is. more antisemitic dog whistling from donald trump. and every republican it seems, that talks about, this they just cannot help but engage him. and in the anti semitic dog whistling, going against a wholly cost survivor. john, we could show you that. show the photo of the baseball that. -- i mean look. >> there are some who has suggested that trump could put himself in some legal jeopardy here. it is certainly at a minimum, suggestive of the direct threat to the public officials, to the

manhattan da, some say that it goes further than that. there is no doubt what is being, what is being message here. and if you can come up with a line that is soros backed animal. you're engaging in races, and antisemitism in one toxic package and you combine it with that kind of imagery. it is a provocative, to say the least, dangerous, incendiary. there's been a lot of discussions about the security being put in place to try to protect alvin bragg here in manhattan. and i'm sure you guys made the point earlier, there is no, doubt we know that donald trump supporters will or will not do if he is or is not indicted but what we have seen over the course of the week is when donald trump has the trump signal, the bad signal on friday and tried to use -- move this case from the legal realm, into the political realm. i'll tell you who did write to his rescue. house republicans. he continues to, have in the

one branch of government where the republicans are in charge. he has the chairman of two powerful committees with subpoena power. who, before any indictment was actually issued by the office. i know this point has been made, but i'll say it again. they -- if he has in the, john they said how high. and in the efforts to try to delegitimized, disrupt, reach some kind of chaos that will. i guess in some of trump's view, politically and potentially disrupt the proceedings of the grand jury. we have no reason to think that is happened yet, but i will say, in donald trump's world today, in his head, he thinks that he won this week. >> it may feel that way inside of his bubble but it is not much outside of that. look at what he was posting yesterday. calling alvin bragg a soros backed animal. and if this is someone that you loved and caring about, behaved like how donald trump behaved

yesterday. writing the things that he wrote about him yesterday. calling an emergency meeting to talk about it. they said they were antisemitic, they were racist. but donald trump doesn't believe that this is helping him, to play the victim, card and called the da's office the gestapo. says russia and china is coming from a because they want to prevent me from being president again. you know both parties in, this you've dealt with donald trump for a long time you've met alvin bragg. does donald trump really benefit from any of this? >> well, he specially does not benefit. i think that he goes with the bluster, and it is certainly the most vicious anti-semitic, and racist language that you could use. and the thing that the former president is using it. i think -- from what i know of donald trump, when i knew him. i think that he is very nervous. i think we are looking at a man

that is becoming unhinged because he does not know what lies ahead. what and you look at the fact that people are beginning, alvin bragg is the same da that was not going forward with the case, two other assistance resigned. one wrote a book that is now going forward. that is the very signal that maybe they saw something, or have figured out something, or have some witness that they did not have when he decided not to go forward before. and the reason that i believe that is the reaction of donald trump. he was also, in my opinion, shaken by the fact that, let's not forget that he called for people to protest on tuesday. and nobody showed up. we show in the barricades, let's show the fact that nobody showed up to those barricades. so not only i was saying the money is not coming, and the

uprising of the masses that he claims to be leading are not rushing to the barricades. all of this is leading him to be coming unhinged. and he is a very antisemitic, racist. to call a man a animal, a learned man an animal. and connected to a man that is only having the position of being a jewish man, who helps because on the causes he likes. it's a man who has lost control, and here's the footsteps. and they're getting closer. >> coming, up around desantis's doubling down on his criticism of donald trump. we will see what he has to say in his interview with british broadcaster, piers morgan. cashback on flapjacks, baby backs, or tacos at the taco shack. nah, i'm working on my six pack. switch to a king suite- or book a silent retreat. silent retreat?

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down on his criticism of donald trump. the florida governor sat down with a wide ranging interview with piers morgan, which morgan previewed into articles for the new york post. according to the british broadcaster, desantis slammed trump over his character failing, chaotic leadership style, and handling of the covid pandemic. which we do have some more news on this morning. morgan notes that desantis also criticized trump's chaotic, self obsessed, and divisive management style. quoting the governor in saying that in my approach to leadership, i get personnel of the government to have the agenda, of the people, and share our agenda. you bring your own agenda, and you're god. desantis went on to say, the way we ran the government i think that there is no daily drama, focus on the picture, and put points on the board. the issue of nicknames also came up during an interview and fox news got a preview of that

moment. >> you favorite nickname is it run desanctimonious, or is it meet more run? >> i don't know how to spell desanctimonious. i don't know what it means. but i like it, it's long, it has a lot of vowels. you can call me whatever you want. just as long as you call me a winner. >> wow, wow, well. >> it gives me curious, what you think about this too. but trump would rather be -- 1000 times that have fox news piers morgan, ron desantis, all basically mocking him and laughing at him. and look at that, it's just a nice, one little family get together. and fox, the new york post, the murdoch empire, giving rhonda

scent is whatever he wants. and then, at the end, tell him whatever you want. as long as you call me a winner? that hurts for a guy who has lost six times in a row. >> as you can guess, this is a coordinated effort, this is the front page of the new york post this morning. look at the headline, run hit dawn, and -- you're right, it's exactly what we know it is. it's like gifts at trump the most, which is being left at. and that is the posture that trump -- rhonda scent is figured out, i don't have time with this. i don't have time for us social media faith, i'm getting things done for the people of florida. some people who watch the show may not agree what he's doing for the people of florida, but his posture is i don't have time for that guy. i don't know what the nickname is, i'm down here doing my job. >> but, i would point out that run is pulling, head to head

with donald trump. it's gone down over the past couple of months, and post-midterms, donald trump suffered. he was seen as the lawyers there who lost the midterms for republicans. now he's got a couple of months of relatively quiet press. now he's back in the news. but is it going to be able to successfully use his victimhood narrative? he's been saying, if this could happen to me. it could happen a year. which is hilarious, but a lot better messaging than he has had. and is that something that is going to pick up with republicans? >> i mean, look at the split screen right there. donald trump, just looks tired. he really does. this is not ageism, there are times that in his mid 70s, he's looked tough, strong, aggressive. he is just tired. he's been up. he's not confident. the crowds have dwindled.

and here you have desantis, again, desantis is a massive landslide win in florida. not only that, he made sure that republicans want to cross the state there. the super majority in the legislature? again on the night that donald trump was blamed for losing senate races, and governors races in pennsylvania. senate races in arizona, where his candidates were losing. senate races in the vera, senate races in georgia, donald trump on all of these race. lose, lose, lose, lose. he last sent 2017, 18, 19, 21, 22. i really do think that when you get out on the campaign trail, run desantis has a very quick question to ask republicans. for want to win or lose? look what i did in 2022, that what he did in 2022. look at what he did in six elections before that? aren't you tired of losing, and

i had a, when follow me. i don't really care what the numbers are right now. that's a compelling method. it's gonna be hard for trump to get around that. >> yes, and certainly right now, desantis is the beneficiary of all the anti trump forces collecting around him. and it's an interesting moment for desantis, up until this moment he has really held his tongue. trump has been attacking him, day, after day, after day. it feels relentless and unfair, and desantis just ignored it. and he chose now to start engaging. but to your point, doing so in a way where he is laughing at, trump playing down at trump. he's not hitting back with criticism. but he's no longer an ignoring him altogether. we heard his comments from the stacey other day about the indictment of the porn star in this interview with piers morgan. and we don't know if that is fueled by his slip in the polls. certainly, it's early, but he is the one republican who's doing it. he's the republican who's using this moment. a perilous moment for trump.

and desantis is the one republican breaking with him. all the others are falling in line. and it does look that he's using this ability to create some daylight. at least personality. if not the issues, whether that will play. when he really starts ramping up. what works in florida will work in places like iowa, new hampshire, south carolina? we will see. but it seems like ron desantis is gearing up for this. he's made it all to certain he's going to jump in and run in a couple months. when the florida state legislature ends. >> he was asked directly that by piers morgan. he said stay tuned. an announcement is coming. on the other hand, what he said about the polling, last month there was a poll that said that trump and desantis tied. last yesterday, the poll showed that -- was up by 20 points. and i would say, when he said i don't know about paying off a porn star.

he said in an interview, that -- it's just outside of my wheelhouse, it's not something that i could. >> i think that he is finding his voice. >> i know how to handle the florida managements, you have to balance those away. and pretty good at figuring out what lands protection, and where you just get up to the line. not quite as good at managing 130,000 dollar payoffs to porn stars. and having an affair a couple of days before a presidential election. to make that go away. he's sending that message. and let me just remind everybody here as far as a how little polling matters right now. well, you remember when morning joe's started 47 years ago. there was a couple of kids.

actually maybe 50 -- couple of kids coming back. from ww to. the big one. the big one. for some reason, giuliani and hillary clinton were running in the 1948 election as well. but you will remember, in 2007, hillary clinton and rudy giuliani where light hairs ahead of everybody. in may, june, july, august of 2007. and you see these huge swings one week before an election. so these numbers don't really mean anything right now. what matters is whether desantis starts to run or not. and how that likes and shapes up. and willie, i just don't think that the dynamics shape up wilfred on a trump at all. >> coming up, the federal reserve grants interest rates by another quarter of a point yesterday. despite concerns of the struggling banking system. steve joins us next on charts of what drones that fred's

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again raise interest rates by a quarter point. as it continues trying to tame inflation. the decision comes as they are under scrutiny to for failing to properly oversee several banks that have failed in recent weeks. nbc news correspondent, tom costello has the details. >> what the reputation on the line, at the nato's central bank. they chose the path highly anticipated. raising interest rates for the ninth time of the year, making clear that inflation, running at 6%, is still too high. >> the cost of getting inflation back to 2% is a long way to go, and is likely to be

-- >> an increase of a quarter point. the fed was reelected to raise rates more after three bank failures in recent weeks. higher interest rates over the past year where a contributing factor to silicon valley bank's collapse. after it took a big loss on bond sales. for the first time, the fed chair publicly address the banking crisis, insisting that the cases are isolated. >> our banking system is strong and resist, it was strong capital and liquidity. >> on wall street, the key indices lost 1.6%. how the feds not raise rates, the fed might have thought that more banks were at risk. still, regulators are under fire for failing to recognize the bank failure warning signs before it's too late. >> these people have already access, to anything that they need. to be able to stop a problem in its tracks. and now, it is coming under pretty heavy scrutiny. from people saying, where were you, why weren't you paying

attention? >> fed chair powell have promised a full review. >> my only -- is to identify what went wrong here. how did this happen is the question? what went wrong? >> all right, what went wrong. and really how did i happen? that's a question not only a lot of people at the fed are asking. begs across america, not just america, but the world are coming. something steve kornacki is asking to. -- built up this whole chart thing and it is taken me from the heart of 30 rock, to kentucky derby. to midnight madness, to the nfl. sunday night football. he's got to be asking, how did it happen that wagner, not only gets charged, he gets, come on, this business is cruel. one day kornacki. the next day he's a lemonade.

and i may just say this, the kids across america right now. he says are turning from spongebob. to morning joe. because they are had a weakness around this chart. >> steve has the big wall, the big carved, wall. i don't know many characteristics, but steve walked into the studio and said good morning, and then said quickly, there's a new stephentown. and i thought that was a shout across the town. and then he said kornacki, it was kind of trash talk. anyways, kornacki is on our show a little bit later. he will get the last laugh. >> it's very uncomfortable. you, know in that aren't wild people say wagner is that larry bird of charts, trash talking from the beginning to the end. biggest trash talker in the chart business. and here we have. it. >> but when larry bird walked

into the locker room with a three-point contest in 1988. he said which one of you blinkers are coming in tonight. that's essentially what he said when he walked. in >> it's very concerning. >> trump official and morning economic office he, said all of it and more. we are going to be this out. okay steve, so charts aside, i was actually a little surprise yesterday that the fed went ahead and jacked up interest rates. i thought just because of the volatility of the banking? it's a little bit, but maybe he had given a little breather. but they did not. now we have gotten to a point. as you point out here. where the feds expectations for a lower interest rates up into the air, is actually above wall street's expectations? >> well, look, first of all i have to say that i want to make sure everyone knows that i am a

image of steve kornacki. and while i do have a good board, i can't do magic the way that steve kornacki can. so i'm following the junior big board. but sometimes maybe al graduate to senior big board. but it's been a really volatile time in the market. not just the stock market which most of you has watched. but also the credit markets which is where the fed operates. let me just give you a sense of what has been going on here. if you go back to early february the market was predicting a slight rise in interest rates. and then a decline by the end of the year. then we started to get much stronger economic data come in. and following speech technology. and then the markets shut up and we said we think that at the end of the year interest rates will be at 5.5%. and then you have the silicon valley bank event. and lo and behold the market released itself and became a cutting of interest rates by the end of the year.

and now here we are with the markets expecting a little bit of an increase with a. klein but the fed. this is why the stock market went down yesterday. the fed is projecting that interest rates actually will continue to go up, and stay up to the end of the year. and powell said, don't expect a cut this year. in so the fed and the markets have a very different view of life at the moment, and the market is disappointed a little bit in the feds reaction yesterday. >> coming up, one of the morning joe original ducks. morning screen rather, john ridley. we talk about one of the most important elections of the year. in this home state of wisconsin, and how he feels when he hears republicans claiming that the laws that weaponized against them.

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of the court for the next two years, including leading up to the 2024 presidential election. that supreme court came within one vote of overturning former president donald trump's defeat in 2020. and this year's election is expected to be tight. with the minority vote being seen as crucial in a state where about 80% of the population is white. joining us now, academy award-ing-winning screen writer and founder of -- , john ridley. he grew up in wisconsin. and held an event last week with young people to help turn out the vote. ridley, it is great to see you again. obviously, your home state, but tell us what compelled you to get involved in this? why? >> as you said, it was where i was born and raised. my parents was about service, the father was a doctor who

served in the air force. my mother was a teacher. the youngest sister, was also, there and with my older sisters it was about studio, and activism, and over the last year we held debates with aduba -- gubernatorial candidate. we harold q&as and as well as q&a. and janet -- which is from wisconsin, a good, durable wisconsin name. so we had a q&a with them. with w i with him in milwaukee. and a really important election for reproductive rights and the laws in wisconsin date back to 1849. so before, that the family with three people, we lost women's rights in place. gerrymandering, gun control. potentially we are seeing elections fall on the ballots, in wisconsin and frankly across

america. unfortunately, young people are more likely to go to concerts than they are to vote. so among the things that we are doing, we are part of the i voted festival. more information on, that go to i voted festival dot org. people should vote no matter what. but if you vote, and show that you are a voter. you can go to free concerts across wisconsin. we want to get people out. this is important. we know people are tired of hearing every election is an important election. but that is the truth. and if we don't engage, we are not part of the process. things won't change. however you believe, whether i agree with you are not on the policy. vote. be part of the process. >> john, wisconsin really is the heart of so many challenges, and when democrats a couple of years ago where complaining about this happening, and that happening. and that how could this be. i thought, you know what? republicans have gerrymandered the state.

republicans focus on local politics. republicans focus on this sort of stuff so. if you didn't like the jury instructions in the kyle rittenhouse case. jesus did not write those instructions, they did not, come down from high. it was by the state legislator who was elected by local people. if you did not like the fact that democrats always outperform against republicans. compared to how many seats they get in the state legislature. again, don't blame the gods. blame yourself. and so, i can't think of a state that is more important. for people who care about representative democracy, and who hate gerrymandering. to focus on then wisconsin. because this is at it again. >> wisconsin joe is probably the swing east of swing states. as mentioned, senator ron johnson a, very conservative republican was reelected by a

very wide margin. at the same, time tony, varies a great guy who is also reelected. so you see a lot of people who are splitting votes, crossing the line to vote for the person with a bill even. and also an indication of how important wisconsin is to the national landscape, in 2020, democratic national convention was meant to be held in milwaukee, because of the pandemic. it was held virtually, it wasn't held in person. but in the next presidential election cycle, the republicans national committee is holding their convention in milwaukee because how wisconsin goes, and this is truism, we are focused on georgia. michigan. places like that. wisconsin is as purple as it gets. and both sides want to really plant their flags. and tried to drive that vote. >> i want to get your smart brain on the bigger stuff playing out that we have been talking about this morning as well. we have a manhattan da potentially going to indict

donald trump. we have a case down in georgia as well, with the fulton county down there as well. we have january six, the mar-a-lago documents all out in front. this former president. and also how the house of representatives are being controlled by republicans who are looking to rally, to defend around donald trump. talking about the quote, weaponization of the federal government. the weaponization of the district attorney's office. what do you hear when you hear that term? >> i'm going to try to be very cobb. and joe, you know i've been writing about policing and community going back to an article in as wire. people may challenge the direction i came from, and not challenge the facts. i want to be careful how i say this, i don't want to paint with a white brush. or try to indict all white. folks. but when i hear from privilege, white men, talking about the weaponization of the law. they do not know what they are talking about.

if the person of color is a black man, the wall has been lapin eyes against the black man. -- what do you call slavery? what do you call failed reconstruction? jim crow, segregation. if you are an asian american. the china exclusion act, that's weaponization. executive order 9066 is weaponization. i'm not gonna explain what that is, i'm sure professor ron desantis, we'll tell you all about that. if you don't, you won't read about books and schools. but individuals talking about the weaponization? as black and brown people, we are told that as part of the problem, was negative interactions with police, is that we do not comply. we do not listen. we do not appreciate law enforcement. we do not care about this country. but the moments that the provinces is in play. as it should. i don't know if donald trump is guilty or not. but i know that the court of law is where an individual goes to literally have their day.

and when it happens to them, when the process is presented. all of a sudden, it's being weaponized. it's being turned against the. you have kevin mccarthy, you have jim jordan saying, we want you to come in. and they're saying this to alvin bragg, come in and answer questions. that is what the court is. four and i have a bigger problem. and again, i'm not trying to be hyperbolic. but when you have the kevin mccarthy's of the world saying to a black prosecutor, you need to come in and answer questions. i'm sorry, we're not living on the plantation anymore. he has no right, no reason to ask this individual to come in and answer questions when that is what the court is for. that is what juries are for. that is what evidence is for. that is what greg juries are. four not for kevin mccarthy, not for jim jordan, and by the way. when they have to answer questions, when you literally see a white riot.

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feeling of winning changed over your career? >> i must still have a feeling of disbelief, you saw my reelection or lack thereof reaction. i am kind of just like in the space of what do i do? it hasn't really changed over the years. >> it is good every time? >> it is amazing every time, i tend to internalize the feeling of it all. i will just have a moment where i close my eyes and i am like that really happen? and then you can't really process those things but i really believe that humans don't have the capacity to fully accept or process certain things in life. especially when you want it any work for that much. once it happens you just don't know what to do so you just move right along. >> i used to send michael south park videos, i've got a lot better in my old age because i now said the videos of like coach k and other people to explain why kobe bryant becomes

kobe bryant. if kobe bryant just made a decision that the hardest things, the things that he hated he taught himself how to love. it would go out and those were things he would focus on. i am so fascinated about what separates the best athletes even by a split 2nd from others. and, by the way, there are no shortcuts to this so people come to you and go oh you must feel so lucky. that is ridiculous, that does not have anything to do with that. can you talk for people that are watching you, parents that want to tell their kids. what made the difference for you? what as far as working hard. what metal-y or physically did you have to push through to get to where you are today and be the best of all-time? >> i think there is a lot of resilience involved.

it could be telling back her injuries. for me over the last few years going through the process, engraving my dad which is an ongoing process. trying to figure out what the new stages of life entail for me. trying not to feel like all i want to do is go back in time. that i am okay with where i am right now. i want to move forward. i have things i want to look forward to in life, skiing especially. so those little things to take a moment and appreciate what you do have. i mean, we have all lost something. we have had injuries or we have had something that hurts your soul. but, we also have so many things you can be grateful for. if you focus on things lift you up and give you a reason to be

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of morning joe. >> thank you for getting my coffee. >> you like working on saturdays, right? >> ideally, i like when you really coffee for me, that is nice. >> you think anybody out there is going to actually leave i broke off a? >> i think they'll believe your nice enough to do that. >> i would burn my hands. >> we are jam-packed even more of our best segments from the week. the manhattan district attorney's office is slamming top house republicans for launching an investigation into the da's investigation of trump. in a letter obtained by nbc news yesterday a general counsel for the da's office responded to a gop request from earlier in the week. which called on district attorney alvin bragg to testify before congress about his ongoing probe. the chair of the judiciary, oversight, and administration committee is when the da's

office was about to engage in an unexpected abuse of prosecutorial authority. this is what happened by indicting trump. but, the only person who ever claimed with certainty that trump was going to be indicted, let's all remember, was donald trump himself. in this social media post last weekend. in our sponsors today the council for the da's office wrote the republican request was an unprecedented inquiry into a pending, local prosecution that only came after donald trump created a false expectation that he would be arrested. she added the request, quote, treads into territory very quickly reserved to the state. first of all, donald trump's reaction. so many parallels to his behavior before january 6th. which some may say is a bit threatening and also threatening to those who are part of this process. in this case a local process, a

possible misdemeanor. the da being, in my estimate, threatened by donald trump on his social media page. >> we know that donald trump's words have inspired violence before, it happened on january 6th and there is real danger it could happen again. individual people have come under great threat inspired by people who have been moved by the former presidents word. we know what happened on january 6th and in the last 24 hours in his post about alvin bragg. and then, well after midnight last night coming to one i am there will be death and destruction if he is arrested even for a misdemeanor. that is a dark, dangerous, new place. join us to talk about is the former ohio governor. he is now an nbc news an msnbc global analyst. governor we are so glad you are here, let's start right there and get your reaction to what you have heard from the former president in the last 24 hours.

and, in potentially inciting violence. >> you know, the thing that strikes me when we see we call this da an animal. they said anything you'd be doing what he does is degenerate psychopath. i keep asking myself at what point are, first of all, a lot of republicans don't like donald trump. but, at what point are people going to say enough of this? this is the man trying to be the leader of our country. and, secondly, the idea that down in washington the house republicans want to go do some kind of an investigation. they have no message right now and they have this retreat. i've been to the retreats, i used to go to all of them and i need a vacation after the retreat. in fact is that is the place to do your hard work and develop a message but instead they are down there and attacking the prosecutor. it is just really wrong and

what trump is doing is terrible. to say there would be violence. every time you think you've hit the bottom we go a little lower. it is a bad situation. >> governor, good morning, and taking back to covering you in the 2016 campaign when he ran for president in this race against donald trump and you are on a debate stage criticizing donald trump over immigration and other issues. did come out and criticize him a bunch in this campaign. i'm wondering how much you think things have changed as we roll into 2024 presidential campaign. as we look at some of the candidates who are in the race and others we assume will get into the race. kind of tiptoeing around the guy. what is the right approach if you are going to take him on and try to beat him for the republican nomination? >> getting down in the mud with donald trump is a big mistake. we saw ted cruz and marco rubio try to do it.

you just tell people why you need to be elected, what is your positive and hopeful message? be out there doing things you need to do to press the flash and be able to get yourself able to rise. getting down in the ditch where nobody can win because you are down in the ditch fighting with somebody else who is down in the ditch. you need to figure out a way to emerge. do you know, it is still very early. in order to be elected you need to make sure you have enough money to get your message out. money is not all that matters because look at jeb bush, he had a lot of money and he never went anywhere but money is important. ideas, the way you are and the magic you bring into the room when you walk in. and to capture the attention of the media. because when the media is paying attention to that means you can rise. if you think you can get there by getting into this fight with trump you are not going to win that way, in my opinion. >> governor, this is jen psaki,

i want to ask you one of the things that has been so alarming to me is not the trump post which are clearly extremely alarming. but, how much other republican leaders have echoed it and basically taken his direction. when you just said a few minutes ago it is time to say enough is enough. who can say enough is enough? where does that come from? is there a leader in the party beyond the presidential campaign who has a potential? how would that happen? >> we don't want to just focus on house republicans that out of their positions to donald trump. if you look over to the senate, and the senate leader mitch mcconnell. these people have not weighed into that. there is a tendency in the media to try to say that all republicans are caught in this. they are not. you don't see johnson wants around doing that. i guarantee you at the end of the day when we see a

resolution of the debt limit and where we are going on the budget you will see mitch mcconnell emerge as a bigger spokesman than the people that are in the house. again, people in the house or making a mistake because this is the time to be shown people what they favor. the things that will help those lives improve weather arrives around health care, prescription drugs, where the plan on immigration. whatever it is they stepped on their line because all they are doing is talking about donald trump in this investigation. it is silly. if i were in this rate i probably would have left because it is not making any sense to me. >> coming up, new polling shows donald trump is making significant gains of iran desantis in the central 2024 gop white house race. we are going to dig into those no numbers. but, take a look at how the status is trying to clean up the comments made about the war in ukraine. you know, you remember when he used kremlin talking points? that is next. . or here.

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desantis is modifying his stance on the war in ukraine responding to a questionnaire from fox news two weeks ago. desantis referred to the russian nation as a territorial dispute. he said u.s. should not get more involved. now in an interview with piers morgan, governor desantis is calling vladimir putin a war criminal. >> i think he has grand ambitions. but i think the thing that we have seen is, he does have a conventional capability to realize his ambitions. he is basically a gas station with a bunch of nuclear weapons. for us, one of the things that we could be doing better is utilizing our own energy resources. we could be permitting natural gas is -- doing a lot in alaska, that is

where he gets all of his power. obviously, he has influence europe by having so much energy. >> there's a move to hold him accountable for crimes, bombing hospitals and genocidal activity in parts of ukraine. wiping out whole cities like mariupol and others. do you support that? >> i think he is a war criminal. we are concerned about our soldiers or people being brought under it. but i do think that he should be held accountable. >> there you have it, ron desantis calling vladimir putin a war criminal. he talks about the war. i'm curious about your assessment in the last couple of days in the way that he has performed, particularly the way the is talked about donald trump. donald trump put out a long pointed post about desantis in why his record as governor is not actually as good as you may think it is. donald trump is very concerned about ron desantis. ron sanchez so far now is approaching --

he is laughing him off, mocking him, taking him on a little bit more at least than he has, still trailing trump by double digits in the poll. >> there in lies the problem. the trump base is a solid base. how does he tactfully go into that pace and pull some of them and hold commensurate publicans together? let's take these in quick succession. you've got the reboot on putin and crimea, ukraine. that is because he did not expect the blow back that he got from senior members of the party, especially in the senate. they started raking him over the coals for something that was absolutely asinine, this was some territorial disputes by russia and ukraine.

so he was getting a big clap back, he had close that up, he had to tighten that up and fix it. that is what the piers morgan interview was about, trying to fix that. when you look at the relationship between him and trump. yeah, he went out and did a little pity path, but at the end of the day when you go back and you listen, he never called the man's name out, he never said directly to trump trump. he never put it in his lap. at some point, you're going to have to stop doing the queue dances and trying to get the giggle out of the press and take the man on because you are hemorrhaging points in the polls and you are not closing any ground, you are losing ground. trump hasn't done anything, trump has been on truth social and a few other things. but he hasn't really hit this guy. yeah if you can't take advantage of this moment, when

it gets ugly and tight and hot, when trump decides to actually leave mar-a-lago and get on the road and go around the country into your backyard in florida, then it becomes a different problem and you have begun to figure how to close that gap. i don't see it happening, at least in the short term, if not the long term. >> it's one thing if you are tied with donald trump in the polls, again these polls are early, they may mean absolutely nothing in terms of who wins openly, but it does matter. people who want to get behind your campaign, it looks like donald trump's theory, 40 points ahead of desantis. suddenly, things go off very quickly when they were tied just couple of months ago. it's one thing if you want to be we towards vladimir putin and you want to be chamberlain because you think that is what the party likes, i want to stay as close to trump as you can, that is one thing. but if you start believing in

points and suddenly you are 20, 25 points behind, yeah, it may start to make a difference. you may want to differentiate yourself from something like russia and say hey, don trump is a week old man, he is the guy who says that vladimir putin is savvy for invading ukraine. he is the guy they called vladimir putin a strategic genius and desantis is now calling putin a war criminal, he is saying putin needs to be prosecuted, held accountable for those were crimes. he said something about russia that i would not say, about the whole gas station thing. but anyway, he has said those things, he is talking tough on russia. is he trying to get a little bit of business between donald trump and himself? >> it is possible, he obviously received a lot of blow back from all the republicans in the senate about his depiction of the russia invasion of ukraine as a territorial dispute.

if we go back to december, the poll, that is a 27 point swing, 27 point swing. from desantis to trump, now trump up 14 when he had been down 14. it's not like donald trump, other than potentially being indicted. but he -- the cpac speech was the one signature moment, we saw around them it seemed like oh yeah, the bases are to revive itself again. we've talked about it nearly every day but how don trump is a deeply, deeply flawed general election candidate. it is going to hurt him there. we are seeing in the snapshot, and again it is early, trump is still the clear favorite for the nomination. jen psaki, i would get your take on this. if you were advising governor ron desantis and, i'm sorry, pity if you are, but if you are advising -- >> i can confirm that i'm not. >> jen psaki is not consulting

with one desantis. you look at those polls, you are still the best alternative, right? you are still way ahead of the group. the anti trump forces, you are still getting the media attention. but you are now trailing, how do you reverse that trend? >> i think jonathan, first of all, they're trying to find the other lane here. in addition to switching the language on russian ukraine, i will note by the way, he also said in the same interview that his larger point is that he doesn't think russia can take over ukraine or threaten nato, even if the west doesn't escalate. he left himself a little bit of space there. also, not to support additional funding, and who knows what else he meant by that. the other thing that he did yesterday was he doubled down on this culture war argument. he wants to be the culture war hero. i don't know that that is going

to win him primary voters, but that is another place where he seems to be experimenting. my advice, i'll give it to right here, is that you have to find your lane. are you going to be the person who is smarter and more steady the dollar trump? then you better have a slightly better answer with russia first of all because that wasn't very sophisticated in a lot of ways. are you gonna be the guy who is a culture war hero, that doesn't help you in the general election but maybe your help in the primary? right now he is flailing in a lot of elections. my advice would be to find the one lane, the one place to drive that home. >> it is been interesting, you've been looking at a lot of how the empire and boosting ron desantis against donald trump. there is a force page spread this morning summarizing piers morgan's interview in the new york post, including this headline, ron is with people of ukraine. if you turn the page then, it is a two page spread about how

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the naughty regime. the party tweeted this image on wednesday with the caption reading in part quote, history has shown us that the first thing a government does when it wants total control over its people is to disarm them. that same sentiment played out on the floor yesterday when democrats introduced resolution condemning republicans hateful rhetoric. >> i'm enraged that the republican party has apparently decided by some sick twisted logic that it is okay to abuse the memory of 6 million jews who were slaughtered during the holocaust in the service of a chief political point. let me make this clear, it is not okay, it is far from okay. i am a jew husband auschwitz, i've been to two treblinka, i'm a jew who has stood at the mountain of human ash and bone in auschwitz.

members, we have a colleague addressing the floor, you will give him your attention and respect. >> joining us gretchen whitmer of michigan. governor, that post is still up, you response to republicans in your state doubling down on hate and using holocaust imagery to threaten it? >> it is depraved, it is dangerous, it is something that we have to fight back on. i was listening to the morning show at the same time and they were talking about how we had ten florida state in the nation, michigan has the highest number of antisemitic attacks reported. there is an absolute link between people who normalize the republican party and the instances of efforts to attack the jewish community. this is 100% linked and this is

a dangerous moment, i think that is why whether it is the former president or the current chair of the michigan republican party, it is wrong. i'm glad you are highlighting it, but it is still a very real and pervasive threat. >> to add to how twisted this is, if it's possible for it to even be more twisted, this response to gun legislation. we are facing an epidemic of school shootings and shootings across the country to the point where they have been almost daily. mass shootings, can you explain the legislation that this is in response to? >> something as simple as secure storage and background checks. these are simple measures that we are working to get done here in michigan. we are on the cusp of it. we have seen the michigan republican party use this hateful language to try to undermine that effort. 800 days, we have extended

rights to the l g bt q community. we have increased efforts to create barriers to women and the decisions about their bodies. we've killed a retirement tax, we have done a lot of great things. we are on the cusp of this common sense gun safety legislation and you see this reckless comment by the michigan gop because we are getting bipartisan support on a lot of these measures, they don't like it, they don't know what to do, so all they do is spread hate and misinformation. >> governor, good morning. i see the spartans helmet over your left shoulder, i offer my condolences about the game last night. boy, what a great game it was. what a run for that team. they lifted up the campus and state after the shooting there. that ties into what you're talking about here. the three things that you proposed, we are talking about background checks, storage, an extreme risk protection, all enjoyed between 75% and 89% support of people in your state. it's not like these are extreme policies that you're putting

out there. but let's talk about some of the progress because the legislature has made progress on those issues. are those bills moving forward? do you think they will become law in your state? >> they're moving forward, and they are going to become law in the state. the voters in michigan rejected the conspiracy theorists and people who don't offer a plan but does offer hate and violent rhetoric. they rejected them first time in 40 years. democrats control all branches of government. it only happened four times in 130 years. we are leaving, we are leading with our values. we're doing exactly what we said and we are going to continue to move forward regardless of all the stuff. >> thank you for the mention of the spartans, i'm a pro sport and. i'm so proud of how they played. it might as well be a lori. >> it was a good game. >> coming up, we are marching 20 years since the start of the war in iraq. we will talk about what lessons if any have been learned since

then. morning joe is back in a moment. moment.

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since the u.s. began its invasion of iraq in what then president george w. bush called quote, military operations to disarm iraq, to freeze people and defend the world from grave danger.

joining us live from baghdad ag, chief correspondent richard angle. richard was in the city the night the first airstrikes rained down 20 years ago. richard? >> it is hard to believe that it has been 20 years since the start of the war. people who are watching the war back then probably remember this. it became iconic because it was here as a giant statue of saddam hussein, he was pulled down by iraqis and. -- is the only thing that remains of that statute. just a tiny fragment of the base. there is no plaque, there's no commemoration, as you mentioned, i was here at the time and for people who haven't been hearing much about iraq, they might not realize how much this country has changed and changed in ways that are very surprising. >> the united states invaded

iraq 20 years ago today. lodging what would become an eight-year war. now, iraq is finally springing back to life. the old bazaars are bustling again. american troops have been replaced by american tourists what. >> they are lovely people, they are so kind. >> traveling all across the country without security, it is no longer needed. the cradle of civilization is fighting the world back. photos are no problem. iraqis are delighted to take photos. >> the people are so friendly, i was not expecting that. they are very kind people. when you say you're american -- >> this would've been unthinkable not that long ago. in 2007 at the peak of the civil war unleashed by the

american invasion, this bizarre was obliterated by a suicide bomber, dozens were killed. iraq still had deep scars from the war. tens of thousands lost their lives. the country remain deeply corrupted. the government is dominated by iran but there are signs of hope. saddam hussein's former lakefront palace is now the american university in baghdad. all classes are coed, all talk in english. the plan is for 35,000 students and is expanding quickly. >> where the dormitory is going to go? >> probably here and maybe it will feel in the lake, put them around here. we are still debating it. this land here will probably be engineering, architecture, agriculture. this is a hugely ambitious project. >> it really is. >> president works out of saddam's old office, his initials are still etched into

the ceiling. >> when the worst dictators in history of mankind. it is becoming an educational institution for the people of iraq. i call it poetic justice, a certain justice and what is happening here. >> many students are too young to remember saddam, their childhoods were defined by the american occupation. >> how is life in iraq these days? >> we need to change the idea. [inaudible] >> and for the first time in years, iraqis who fled the violence are returning to build a better future. i mentioned iran's influence, it is very significant. in some ways, the square itself encapsulates the entire thing that iraq has gone through. the statue is gone.

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going on right now. there is still more to find out, they're still multi-get to the bottom of. finally we have started to get answers. watch this. >> here we go. >> a california school district is suing some of the biggest players in the social media word for what they say is their role in the mental health crisis affecting young people. county officials alleged tiktok

snapchat and youtube are targeting and exploiting school age children which is leaving them to deal with quote, the fall out which includes distracted students, increased absences, more children diagnosed with adhd, cyberbullying that carries into the classroom, and even physical damage to our san mateo schools. the school board is asking the company to pay for mental health services and for damages done to the school during this challenge. going viral on the app. representatives for the three platforms did not comment directly on the lawsuit itself, but emphasized the work that they are doing to keep their products safe. joining us now, the superintendent -- nancy mcgee and the attorney representing the school district and murray murphy. thank you so much for being with us. i guess i will start with you.

i listed some of the things that you are seeing, but you are saying that what you're seeing in your county school district have a direct impact from social media, social media is causing it. if so, why not also instagram? >> thank you so much for having us. i think most of america knows that we are in the middle of a mental health crisis, it is real, but surgeon general last year put out a report that implied social media use in a rise to anxiety in depression. just for some members, children now reported that between 2015 and 2020 there was a nationwide rise in depression and anxiety among youth by about 26%. what people don't realize is that these impacts are felt

every day in our schools. we feel it is time to shine a light on the impact that this is having on our system and therefore we want to bring in those parties that are behind the impact and be a partner and be part of the solution as we move forward. >> what is the case that you are making and also what our instagram. >> i'm pretty sure we will be adding entities in the near term, -- it is brought by the san mateo board of education for attendant mcgee. there is precedent for that type of litigation when

companies have widespread negative practices that are wildly impacting communities. for example, the opioid litigation, the e-cigarette litigation. >> i'm curious about >> i'm curious about the parallel big ten versus big tobacco. because a lot of it we've had a composition ceremony joe, some predictions have been made even years ago that this would pay the next big tobacco lawsuit again with kids being preyed upon. so anne-marie murphy, do you see any parallels? >> absolutely. amanda, starting with the fact that they are framed as public nuisance claims. the legal theories are very, very similar. at their heart they are about the theory of -- cigarettes e-cigarettes enough

social neda have had a very marked negative impact on -- and how to roll and what a school or facing. as you probably know, a number of school districts banned together and were a very important part of the juul e-cigarettes litigation is still ongoing and we see this as having a lot of pelosi that. we're trying to address increasing mental health spending and what the schools are expanding as i just try to deal with this new reality on kids being addicted to social media. what >> jonathan, there's parallels of the air between big tobacco and big tech. you look at big tobacco having got, having studies showing they have no impact that had --

yet they never pass that along, they use that relation. you look a big tag, they've had studying views on your issue because facebook's are the internal study that talked about the ingredients. especially teenage girls for depression, anxiety, suicidal tendencies. and you're looking at documentaries about silicon valley. they talk about all the horrible things that social media do, and children, then at the end of it as all of the is turned people how much screen had you give your kids. an electron time, are you kidding me? people that rod and his multi

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season hbo's game series with the lana johns after decades of sharing the death as -- we count to light on social issues within the game we love

the hbo espn host joins us now, -- that is a little taste of comedy mixed with sports or how do you describe james theory, the show where you, and you said they're stand-alone unlike what we've seen over the years debating other people. >> you have the people you know me my friend descriptions that it is may, so what we've done with this show is sometimes these things are scary, sometimes things are fun, sometimes you got a little -- there's a kind of things that come in the weather come together, but sports on television by and large we give you too many places to put it all together and try to explore some deeper themes. so that's what we're doing here. we've got a reuters room that comes out with this. there's a lot of feels that. so we're taking my ideas and then we handed them over to a larger staff of people to try to figure out how to put that in the space. how to make it three dimensional. that's what we're going for. that much different than, before years basically gone my d and then tv would be like stay with that. idea >> after imagine they're not doing it every, day not

having to react to the coaching carousel or the who's up who's down all that and just take a breath for a week and casual things are actually important trio. >> yeah big change from was being able to serve the top and take a lot of time with it because it really is, like oh this is happening i needed that opinion right now and i can give you a lot of the top but i can give you a lot more when we have people work with. >> nothing even talked about on game three is the n.i.l. thing which is where athletes now in college can get paid. but the truth is, most of them are not getting paid, let's take a look. >> the fact is, most athletes aren't getting anything from n.i.l.. say we want to feel good about the n.i.l. system, so we don't have to think about these athletes being exploited. but how can you feel good when you see how little the majority of these kids are making? most of these players get an i l deals to a platform called open door. it's like a dating app except there is no sex and you can

actually confirm these tombs hearts. for $5, steph -- a soccer player at the university of akron will record you a personalized video shout out. >> or for $15, they'll come to your event or practice. or, for the low low price of $1, you can pitch him on anything. when he likes refreshing ticketmaster. >> $1, how? so for people in our audience who don't quite understand and i l, what it does exactly because they see the headline some people are making tons of money my college freshman meant multimillion dollar. deals to endorse products. but as you say in the piece it's not trickling down to the rest of the college athletes. >> no and it operates on the fundamental assumption that the only players who the surgical played or the only one who are famous. which is a stack growing statement on 20% or. light like the only thing that matters is clout. if we have cloud, you go from. there but i think a lot of

people who don't follow college boards kobe do not realize is, and it seems ubiquitous to people who watch us of is, the universities do not pay their players. they give them scholarships, but i've tried to eat one of those before, it doesn't taste really good, it's not particular feeling. they don't have to pay them. when you talking to people who are from other countries they find that to be maddening because they hear how much the coaches get paid to hear all the money that everybody else gets, and the ncaa is so dedicated not playing players and empowering them that they fought for years to stop from ally other people to pay them. well and i'll now allows other people to pay them, right you can be a local operation, it can be a big company. they pay these players as endorsements, they can do that. but to me and i have a columnist in the new york times, the -- 's refusal to play players. to me it's a civil rights issue of the day because the players simply don't have the power to do anything about it. and if they rotate out every four years, it's hard to build a distant movement does the

guys don't stick around. they're so, to me what was happen, and ncaa didn't want and i, all but it worked well for them because now it looks to be able to players getting paid. -- you think that they're getting this money. 95% of them are not getting anything at all. but what they do get, especially when it comes to football they still get the injuries. they still get the head trauma, they still gave him the code on the line, at some point they're going to have forgot how to pay for it. >> and that does it for morning joe, weekends. thank you so much. >> you need any more coffee? >> yes need more clean this time. thank you so much for spending your challenge with. this and a morning sharpens exam, you maybe six on when i am eastern, i have a great rest of the weekend. >> and enjoy some basketball this weekend >> deadly tornadoes, we'll