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headquarters in new york, welcome to alex witt reports, we begin with breaking news. moments ago the mississippi governor declaring a state of emergency after a deadly tornado outbreak. at least 22 people are, that and dozens injured. preliminary reports it again at least a dozen tornadoes touchdown, and right now certain rescue are combing through the description hoping to find survivors. >> will big two tornadoes together. actually, there was three of lump. one of them went that way. the other two came before, dropped in my trunk and came up. it a tech mom and the rest of the.
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and when i got up there, this is what i found. >> let's go right to nbc's priscilla thompson in suburban city, as disobey for us. i mean the devastation seems enormous. try to even describe, priscilla. >> alex, incredibly enormous. and people are coming back to the homes now that the sun is out, and really seeing what the devastation here looks like. i'm here with kendrick, johnston. i spoke of his mother, patricia. she and her husband were in here last night when this happened. she called her son, you were on the phone with your mom as this tornado was bearing down. what was his conversation like? >> well, they heard the rotation. they were just trying to decide where it would be the best way to take a rat, and i was on the phone with my mother kind of stopped all the sudden in her truck as she heard the roaring sound, they started panicking really loud rough wind shaking the house. so they have to hang, briefly. so that they can take cover. i let them do that. >> what went through your mind
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when i hang-up. >> i don't know if they're going to be okay or not, i was wondering, i was just glad that they took cover, like literally -- my father called me and he said we got hit bad. and he said the roof was off the house, they were in panic mode seeing debris, it was all of the house. sirens going off, it was real bed and i was just wondering, i'm glad to hear the voices and this was something that we have never seen. it was horrible, just to see what i've seen. i came out to texas last night. >> yeah when i spoke to my, she seemed very grateful for life. how are they doing right now? >> my mom is still in a little, shocked but she's okay. my dad he's handling it well. he's also trying to speak to everybody else on top of his stuff. the whole community is coming together and helping everybody out. we have other supervisors from other places and coming in,
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helping the community out. >> yeah, we definitely seeing a lot of that with water, and things being transported. just give me a lay of the land, because this was a remember standing. it >> yes, so this room right here there was a couch right here. it's no longer, i don't know where that. we launched around in this room right here. there was a wall, right here where you're standing at. that used to be a laundry room, there was a wall right there, it's no longer there. the washer and dryer, it's completely turned over because the tornado came in from that where. and, if you look right here. this one thing on the floor right here -- stand by those stairs. and that's really cool to lose a. it's not turned down, but there's debris everywhere. it's from other people's houses, and it's just all of the. >> and the, roof completely gone. >> completely gone. yeah. >> yeah, well, we're glad to
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hear you are all doing okay. how is everybody else? >> well unfortunately we had some fatalities here, and this is a very small town so we all know everybody and unfortunately we did have some fatalities. that's -- on top of a few more people. i don't call any names but i really sun prairie's are to the family. i want everybody to get through this because we have never seen this in our lives. in my lifetime, a tornado this. but >> yeah, well thank, you can check for your time and for sharing that with us. alex, that is what a lot of people are coming home to. for kendrick, this is his childhood home, where he grew up. many people who are here last night coming back to survey the damage, and it is just devastating. some people here have lost everything. alex? >> i tell, you listening to kendrick story, it was hard to not cry given what he's had to go through. or can even imagine being on the phone with your parents and having -- we have to go, and i'm
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wondering for that period of time will i be able to talk to them again. i can't even. we're going to continue following this, thank you so much, excellent interview, i wish him the best luck from all of us here in new york to. let's go to the political headlines, as donald trump is on the defensive as he heads to wake up, practice for his first big 2024 campaign rally after a week of serious legal setbacks. potentially the biggest blow comes from the special counsel 's investigation in the capitol riot. a federal judge denied claims of executive privilege, now ordering mark meadows and other top aides to testify before a grand jury. this could give investigators unprecedented insight into trump's intent on january six. also some new developments in these two other -- picking up some momentum this week. trump's lawyer in the mar-a-lago documents case, evan corcoran, appeared yesterday before a federal grand jury for over three and a half hours. u.s. -- crime fraud exception to
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attorney-client privilege. >> this is a guy who are not going to say probably things that he's bulletproof, he's shielded, he's invincible, and he's locking to his lawyers. and now are saying, time after time that the special counsel's going after they lawyers and finding that that may indeed be where they crimes are taking place, because that maybe they won -- the criminal stand but donald trump wants to play at. >> on monday, the grand jury in the manhattan hush money investigation is expected to reconvene. that comes as investigators are now looking into a death threat and why powder that was sent to da alvin broad. it was deemed not hazardous, but the letter came hours after trump warned of quote, potential death and destruction if he was indicted. and in washington state, no reaction to marjorie taylor greene's visit to jail where some general six defendants are being held. let's go right now to nbc's julie sutton on capitol hill.
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julie, welcome, already hearing from the lawmakers who want their? >> well, alex. just to set the scene here. there are handful of members from the far-right who led this visit, let of course, by marjorie taylor greene who is now on the oversight committee after speaker mccarthy got about to gavel and the republicans took control of the house. but there were also two democrats on the trip. freshman lawmaker of the oversight panel, jamie raskin who is the ranking member there, it's also on the january six select committee. he has those two lawmakers to go. they were the only two lawmakers -- being held in the states ceta. there is in the ring how there is because the judge has denied a flight risk and risk to their communities. i want you to take a listen to a green had to say yesterday after the visit and what robert garcia, one of the freshman lawmakers actually told us last hour, watch. >> what we have to do is we
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have to work as hard as possible to defund the two tiered injustice system and we have to turn freedom and due process rights to be shied january six defendants. >> for the continue to lie and try to create -- it's really shameful. we know that the interruptions right now are in that general are being treated fairly. they have ipads, they haven't came out, they have access to the families, so i don't know why she continues to lie and i and i, i'm glad we are there to pushback on that. >> yeah, and garcia actually said that according to what he saw the january six defendants were being treated like quote, celebrities, by some of these members of the hard right and that whistle by the way that you heard was actually protesters whistling the entire length of the press conference for this visit. >> okay, julie tsirkin thank you so much from capitol hill, as always. joining me right now is congresswoman -- of the u.s. virgin islands.
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she's a democratic ramp -- on the weaponization of the federal government. welcome, it's good to have you, we're going to talk about that gel visit in just a moment but i would like to start with manhattan da alvin bragg's response to house leaders who are trying to force his testimony jim jordan chose the reputation subcommittee demanded that the da turn over all documents and communications in the hush money investigation involving donald trump. brett wrote in part, the letter only came after -- her to rest the next day and his lawyers are reportedly urge you to intervene. mother fact is a legitimate bateman for congressional inquiry so why is the tremendous subcommittee pressuring da bragg? >> so that's a really great question it really feeds into what you just show the audience with marjorie taylor greene as well. these are individuals who are trying to desensitize the american people to the rule of law. two rules, that they are
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outside the realm of rules. marjorie taylor greene said the word that they, as republicans, have tried to pin on the democrats. defund the police. basically, the republicans are now trying to push for the defunding of the dismantling of our rule of law at the federal level. the fbi, the irs, anything that holds them accountable. but desensitizing individuals and americans to what actually happen on january six,. main primary insurrectionist, donald trump through trying to thwart the work of a duly elected district attorney in new york city. they're telling you everything out loud that they are working on behind closed doors. >> scary the way you described it as a way they just want to have a free-for-all, some sort of lawless, or unregulated
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society in some ways. >> well not a lawless society, and authoritarian one where they are the ones with control. this whole discussion about woke is really a dog whistle against african-american, against black people, against people of color, the things that they are deeming as woke are the things that are trying to make us a more inclusive country. by having, books by letting her children learn about others that other than themselves, being tolerant, being 11. they want to to continue in fear and anger towards each other so that they can take advantage of that. >> when we think about donald trump's attacks, specifically on alvin bragg, they have been pretty explicit. they referred to him as an animal, even human scum. as this kind of vile language from trump is one thing, considering the source. but are you concerned that your republican colleagues, some of who appear to be condoning, in some cases agreeing with it?
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>> the fact that the speaker of the house, and the chair of the judiciary committee would disrespect the district attorney of manhattan by sending him a letter and demanding that he give them documents on an ongoing criminal investigation, as if he does not have that authority, does not have that power, is trying to emasculate and cut down the professionalism and the sheer intellect of alvin bragg. a man who worked at the southern district and the u.s. attorney's office as a federal prosecutor against crime, attended some of our most elite universities. give me a break. kevin mccarthy, really, yell? and jim jordan? trying -- they have no authority. morrow, professional, or intellectual to come after alvin bragg. >> let's go back to that marjorie taylor greene led congressional delegation visit of the january 6th defendant.
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the congresswoman slammed january six saying it was not an insurrection, and that inmates are being mistreated. what is your reaction to that? what do you republican colleagues hope to get from this? >> well, i think, as i said, what they're hoping to do is, you know we've seen pulling where the majority of republicans now believe that january six was not an instruction. that is not what many of them believed afterwards. and so, the republican party is trying to put a fall over, it trying to rewrite history, trying to whitewash history in the same way that many individuals who are -- and traitors or during the civil war tried to romanticize what actually happened during the civil war with a group of american, trying to remove themselves from our country, from our federal system, because they did not like what the federal government was telling them to do, that is get rid of slavery.
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and in this instance, marjorie taylor greene and many other of the gop are attempting to try and remove themselves from the rule of law as well. >> let's talk about the federal judge who has ruled that some of trump's closest aide, including some of -- must now testify before the governor to overturn the 2020 election. you wouldn't beach manager trump's second trial. these were witnesses that you were able to speak to, know where the select general six committee. so how significant could their testimony be, in the special counsel's case? >> well, i'm really grateful because we don't know what they said. we have hints about it from testimony of other individuals in january six, and from the little bit that we knew at the time of the impeachment trial. i would say that the impeachment trial is giving the framework and putting up framing it a house. but the january six committee
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actually put the boards, the insulation in their, and now it appears this criminal investigation by the special counsel, the special prosecutor on the department of justice is putting the furniture in there and setting the table for a criminal indictment against the former president and maybe for the former president and for those individuals who are around him. >> your republican colleagues that really pushing forward with their investigation of the january six committee probe. republican chair jerry -- reportedly was to release the first round of findings on tuesday. why are republicans trying to re-litigate the insurrection. because that's what it was. that is the word that applies to it, that all americans were able to see, despite them trying to read a bit, or we classify it. what do they hope to ghana by looking into the january six committee? >> well i think what they are trying to do, to rewrite history is --
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as he runs for office, and to absolve themselves of the actions by actions that they all it gauged immediately after the insurrection, when they went and continued to attempt to decertify the election, did not vote for the indictment of the president, and did not vote to disqualify him before running for office. that's what this is about. and you know, unfortunately, in many instances this may be a preparation for an additional attempt if the next election doesn't go the way as well. so, alex, can i also say i just wanted to thank you for the segment that you did prior about the tornadoes in mississippi. having been in the virgin islands after the hurricane, it was so important that msnbc, another cable networks came down and showed light on that, and humanizing it. so i want to thank you, as someone who is a survivor of
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natural disasters for you all doing, that continue to bring light to americans and the climate change is real, and that it's affecting us every day. >> thank you for saying that. i'm so proud of the work of my colleagues that are down there bringing these incredible stories. heartbreaking ones. i literally had to fight back tears from that. what he was talking about his family experience talking on the phone where he had to hang up and let them go. i can't even imagine how long that was. >> that's the empathy. that's the empathy that we all need. but unfortunately many of my colleagues are trying to take americans against each other from different parts of the country, from different demographics, the roughness it is, and the fact that you continue to have that empathy for americans that are not like yourself living in different places it's something that we really have to bolster and go ahead and cry, alex. >> oh i do sometimes. and then they have to come out and get the tissue but all right congressman we are going to stay on top of that we're going to go back to mississippi pretty soon.
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biden is sending a strong warning to iran after a drone attack killed a u.s. contractor and injured five service members in syria. in response, -- retaliatory strikes that says are linked to iran's revolutionary guard corps. let's go to nbc's allie raffa, standing by at the white house. welcome, where do we stand at this hour? >> we know tensions between the u.s. and iran have already been. high attempts to revive the 2015 nuclear deal, are still stalled. rod is now giving russia drones to help in the war efforts in ukraine. but this latest escalation rate
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tensions to a whole new level. as you mentioned, the president ordered an air strike on facilities used by iranian proxy groups after a total of three attacks against u.s. personnel, in syria, over the last three days. and he reinforced that those powerful words yesterday, take a listen here. >> make no mistake the united states does not, does not, emphasize, seek conflict with iran, but be prepared that we will act forcefully to prepare our people. like suzanne would have been asked. minor going to continue to keep up our efforts to counter terrorist threats in the region. >> just for some context here, u.s. forces in syria have been attacked before. they've actually been 78 attacks on u.s. bases in iraq and syria over the last two years. many of them by iran or ronny and backed groups. but this is the most serious and without a doubt the most deadly fighting we've seen in that region in years. it comes as the u.s. maintains a presence in that region for
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the sole reason of the escalating tensions. we know that the u.s. keeps around 900 trips and i worked with hundreds of contractors in syria to help kurdish forces control and the ice activity there. the question is how does the u.s. about all of this because the president is saying that the u.s. will act forcefully to protect u.s. personnel but it's saying that we don't want to seek a war with iran. what comes next especially if iran continues this attack. >> i've got one answer for that question it is tearfully. so they do it, i from white house. let's go now to new developments in the special counsel's investigation into donald trump's handling of classified documents. emerging from corpus ceilings suggest approximates believes he has compelling evidence trump may have obstructed a federal investigation and may have misled his own lawyers about returning or classified records. joining us former brooklyn new york prosecutors msnbc legal analyst charles coleman and former cia officer in msnbc national security and
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intelligence analyst, -- because, could see. both charlotte, you first hear. trump attorney evan corcoran, testified again before a grand jury on friday after a judge found sufficient evidence that his legal advice may have been used in a crime. in a memorandum, as you're getting that video also, appear she presented incriminating claims by prosecutors that trump knowingly -- cause corcoran to miss lead prosecutors were documents were stored at mar-a-lago. some people might hear that and say, okay there's evidence of a crime, and trump should be charged. but is it that simple? >> it isn't that simple,. alex i think that a large part of what we're talking about is the connection between trump, or mr. action, rather to his counsel and have a payroll that ultimately is obstruction -- i think that drawing those
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lines and connecting those knots depending on the evidence on what it shows it's going to be a very difficult task for jack smith, more so than people realize. because you're talking about different notes that are made in terms of what an attorney is communicating around their discussions, with the clyde, whatever notes they've been taking. with their communications with their client. and all of those things are usually tag in such a way that they're not necessarily going to be asked straightforward as people would think. so, while i can understand in principle will people think that something that's going to be easy and straightforward, in practice what you sort of apply the law it becomes much more difficult. >> yeah, so mark, when the federal district in d.c. ordered cooking testimony in the documents, it prompted an extraordinarily rapid series of court filings, including one from trump's team. that one went on by midnight. here's what former doj prosecutor andrew weissmann had to say about this earlier this week, take a listen. >> i've never seen anything
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that quick. it's very hard to know why i have to say to me what i think about what can be a possible reason. and the speculation is that there must be some thing in the papers that gave the judge's concern about national security complications. because it's such a short timeframe that there insisting on having a response here. >> what kind of national security concern might concern this judge? >> well, alex, here we go again. it's always a question of what is in these documents. this we still don't know what was in the documents that trump was keeping all along. why this really matters is that it goes back to what we all was talked about. the source of the method. is there anything in there that has to do with the identities of -- their anything that has to do with election system, what we call signals.
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or is there anything that has to do with what trump is actually intending to do with these? so, in the national security world. what concerns a lot of people that we still haven't got into the bottom of the actual substance. we don't know about the damage assessment, for example at the national telegenic undertook. it matters, because the world watches. it's not just the documents that were found in president trump residence, but it's the type of documents. what his intent was to do with the. this case is certainly not resolved. there are a lot of national security implications. our allies really do watch because this was the mishandling of information that could have profound national security implications in the future. >> yeah [inaudible] attorney-client privilege. but the judge ruled that prosecutors met that threshold to invoke the crime fraud exception and make a preliminary case that trump committed criminal violations.
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can you explain the crime fraud exception, and what it means in this case? >> you know, alex, it's interesting in over 20 years of practicing law i've heard more of this week about the crime fraud exception, aside from television shows where some sort of obscured is to nab the defendant the last-minute. the crime fraud exception is basically one of the only ways to pierce the attorney client relationship. that privilege, which is almost ironclad, essentially protects all the communications that a guardhouse with their counsel except for if those communications are in furtherance of a crime or to commit a crime. so, basically, what that ruling tell us without giving us the details is that there was sufficient evidence provided to believe that whatever donald trump is communicating to his attorneys with doing so in commission of a crime. in this case is being expected that the crime is going to be obstruction of a government
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that's what the crime fraud exception does is that it allows you to pierce the attorney client privilege. >> let's, and thank you for the explanation. i need to ask. so, mark, on friday one day after posting some deranged remarks, trump took things to a whole new level warning of potential -- potential death and destruction if he's in that. it later on today, he's holding his first 2024 campaign rally in waco, texas, on the 30th anniversary of this that we're seeing right there, that at the standoff between federal agents and the -- that is a raid, as you know, becoming a rallying cry for far-right groups like the oath keepers on the proud boys. now, trump campaign says it's just a coincidence. what concerns do you have about trump escalating violent rhetoric and where this is happening today, this rally. >> sure, a couple things alex. here's how trump's ball down on social media would not be noteworthy if there were not a
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leading candidate for the public can presidential nomination. that's something that should just a lot of us. this is not a sign of a healthy party, it's not a side of a healthy political system. and so one thing that we haven't seen. anyone from the gop really denounced this. it wouldn't matter as much if he was condemned, if you are not the candidate, but he is. that is something that not this a sign of a healthy political system. in terms of, waco the symbolism of it is stark. i don't believe the campaign at all when they say that this was not done on purpose. it is certainly a call. we've got white wing extremist groups. we saw the events and we go through years ago as a sign of government overreach. tragic event when which for tsa agents were killed. but certainly this is desire to really appeal to his base. really, hear nothing from republican members who really do know better. the problem is that every republican i speak with knows that what trump is doing is not right, but they just don't have
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that sense of, what do you need to step open though. because they fear the -- that is something that is not the wealthy political system. >> i'm gonna tell you, if i made his talking to that they did not know about what got 30 years ago, that is embarrassing to admit that kind of a to this. i mean honestly, one more quick question to the child. the thing with mike pence's advisers, they have reported they accepted the possibility that he is going to have to testify against his former boss, and i get on like the run for the 2024 nomination. how strong -- speech and debate clause exempt him from testifying. we are getting a long one-on-one classroom today. it's not like. this pretty much applies to different members of the government when they are acting in official capacity and talking an official capacity, particularly legislators. it's important to understand,
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my parents as a former vice president, he was always a member of the executive branch. now, of course, they were going to be times when you function in the senate. but. the speech debate clause is not going to be a protection for him, but if they're going to -- >> okay gentlemen. charles, mark, good to see you both. thank you so much. coming up next, the author of a great read this week in the new york times. i'm going to read to you the first paragraph. at the time, it was omar tawdry the momentous, a reality -- half his age to a hotel room after around it a celebrity golf tournament. she arrived in a spangler gold dress and strappy heels. he promised to put on television, and then, she says, they slap together. that conversation with michael rockfield, in just a few minutes. it in person, i wouldn't have believed it. eating is believing steph. the subway series.
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security is tightening at the da's office, and around the courthouse here in manhattan following a wave of threats. a grand jury investigating hush money payments made to condemn is expected to resume hearings on monday. and next on how the stormy dunn -- pulitzer prize-winning reporter michael ross will not investigate reporter at the new york times. -- and imports there is a created the 45th president. what a title, michael. let's go to nate's. you're right that they matter celebrity golf tournament in july 2006. he invites her to dinner. she wore a spy ugly go dress and strappy heels. she says he wore black so pajamas and slippers. she says he told her she should be on the apprentice.
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she claims like -- that he called her honey bunched. she says they saw each other twice since 2007, but never slid together again. so, stormy daniels met with new york prosecutors ten days ago. is this kind of thing that she likely talk to him about. how much is your testimony bolster the case at all? >> well the underlying story of her sleeping with trump's in central to the case, what it is is the hush money deal and whether that was really just political campaign. stormy, if she were to testify, she did not testify to the grandeur as far as we know. but if she were to testify at the trial, she could talk about -- right after the access hollywood thing came out in which she was heard where he was about groping woman. who's in a vulnerable position at the, point he agreed to pay
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her while she had been trying to sell her story for quite some time, many years, in fact, and he had never been willing to pay her off right until he was vulnerable. so that could be how prosecutors would show that it was related to the campaign as opposed to trying to protect this family. >> okay, a couple questions that. because michael cohen, he still angry that he paid such a high price while david -- was a former publisher of the national inquiry, got immunity after a payout to caribou, that's another woman who claims of an extramarital affair. it's a practice known as catch and kill. take a look at what michael cold and told me last week. >> in fact, i paid for karen mcdougal as part of the charges. david pachter has acknowledged they paid it. i never paid him anything. viral was to resume an agreement that they embody national inquires, lawyers. i was asked to review it by donald for the sole purpose of
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ensuring that he was protected. so i go to prison, i get charged with that, and david practice gets immunity? >> what role might david -- or karen mcdougal playing in this manhattan grand jury -- >> i think it's more context that if you're going to charge donald trump, you know, michael cohen was his direct play. he was the fixer, whereas david pecker was a friend of his and a separate entity in the national enquirer that paid for. but it appears that the da's office is more focused on stormy daniels because a, it is easier to show that, we'll, first of all the main charge that they're looking at as we understand it, my colleagues have reported in the repayment of michael cohen, it which will make it a felony under new york law because this is not a federal case. it has to be backed up by some, meeting your falsifying the records in order to conceal another crime like an election law, or campaign finance
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violation. the pecker can mcdougal case doesn't involve any falsifying up business records. so that's just not the case of trying to make, but it's part of a larger story of donald trump trying to -- georgia's 2016 election campaign. let >> me ask you, because you are part of a wall street journal team that won a pulitzer. we mentioned earlier, and we know that the access hollywood it was out there. but with these details available before the 2016 election. and putting aside a potential indictment against trump in this case, does any of this matter to voters if he embarks on now, a 2024 campaign? >> well, what was available was four days before the election we have the wall street journal where i worked at the time reportedly karen mcdougal had been paid off by the national enquirer, hundred $50,000 in that catch and kill deal, as you mentioned. so that was out there but it
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was also at a very busy time during the campaign. there's a whole issue of hillary clinton's email investigation, and jim comey saying that it was open again, and there's a lot of noise. that's right, well i got some attention didn't get a ton, and then donald trump won. we didn't learn, what we had a suspicion of the time, but we knew stormy downhill's was pertinent, she had put in the same lawyer that karen mcdougal had. that she was talking about going public, but she never did. so we are effective she must have also been paid -- jennifer 18 when it was part of the hush money agreement. as far as whether voters care about it, but he's voter issues that are play. stormy daniels was a big deal. i mean -- trying to overturn the 2020 all those things went to. >> hearing anything about the
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likelihood, and yay or nay about the label getting indicted. >> while my colleagues were reporting on this very closely on the manhattan da's office have reported that the da, alvin bragg, has signaled that he is -- we don't officer, but the expectation is that he will move shortly. >> michael roth, good to talk. do you think for so much. it is a sure sign of spring tomorrow. the iconic rice right close for the season, the ring first go to that skating pawn officially opened on christmas day, in 1936. the ice rink will now be replaced with a roller rink for the second straight year.
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-- out testimony at the bottom of, and we start to get answers. watch this. >> we have this breaking news, the president just issuing a statement about the deadly tornadoes and mississippi, we're going to have more on that in just a moment. the twisters are killed at least 23 and injured dozens more. they wiped out the town of silver city, in the central part of the state. teams are working to pull survivors from the rubble, at least four people listed as missing. officials say that number is likely to increase. >> [inaudible] i could see it coming. >> what did you say? >> when the lightning flashed,■
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i could see two tornadoes. when was massive, and one was -- on the other side, there's a smaller one, it's separated. >> today, the governor mississippi declared state of emergency in those impacted counties. president biden has spoken with him. let's go to nbc's allie raffa, at the white house, once again. so i'll, what did the president say in the statement? >> yes, alex, the present wrapped in just a few minutes ago to the devastation caused by these tornadoes and mississippi. he says in the statement, quote, jill and i are praying for those who have lost loved ones in the devastating tornadoes in mississippi and for those whose loved ones are missing. the images from across mississippi are heartbreaking, well we are still assessing a full extent from the damage, we know that many of our fellow americans are not only grieving family and friends, but they've lost their homes and businesses. he says today averaged out to
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mississippi governor and have spoken with senator -- senator husband, and congressman benny thompson to express my condolences, and also -- offer full federal support as communities recover from the effects of the storm. i also spoke to the administrators who has to put emergency plans -- search and rescue teams, i focus our federal support where you need it most quickly. those impacted by the devastating -- to help the fellow americans we will do everything we can to help, we'll be there some takes. we'll be there together to deliver the support you need to recover. the president filling this role we so often see him fulfill in times of crisis, i'm crisis. the diseases devastation caused by these tornadoes, these roll, and is offering his prayers and his full support of the federal government as this community
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heals from this latest disaster. >> as we would expect him to continue doing. thank you so much, ali. the rest of the capital, next we can hear from the father of apartments cushioning victim about what led to this chaotic scene this week. s great in cold and saves money? i am so in. save $150 when you turn to cold with tide. hi, i'm eileen. i live in vancouver, washington and i write mystery novels. dogs have been such an important part of my life.
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does >> the capitol police not to their jobs? >> what in the hell is going on? >> yeah that's a good question. joining me now is manuel oliver, a 17-year-old solver joaquin was killed at marjory stoneman douglas high school, and while his since founded the gun reform group. manuel, i'm so glad to have you here, because i want to ask you what you want to say before you were removed from that hearing. what did you want members to hear. >> well. definitely not what they were hearing for more than half an hour. these hearings are, in some way, made for, it's very easy for them to lie and believe their own lies. like, i'm talking about the dialogue between the witnesses that bryan and, in this case, they -- have representatives th were there. if there becomes a point where tolerance is not there anymore.
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and someone needs to say something. honestly, i wanted to hear after the day between two sides, but this is a far away from being the day, it's an accumulation of life after life. >> look you are something this video of the incident shows her shouting over the subcommittees chairman about, and then outside the hearing room, three officers detaining you while you are faced down on the ground. we're going to try to listen to some of that video right now, that is a little difficult to hear what's being said because there's lots of commotion. but take a listen everyone. >> she's looking fine. i'm okay. [inaudible] >> back off! [inaudible]
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[inaudible] >> what's going on here? >> get off of him! >> wow. the way they shoved your wife out of the way, and they were literally laying on you. tell me what led to the arrest. what made them throw you on the ground like that? >> well, that was totally unnecessary, okay. the capitol police made a statement, right after this and they were complaining that i was trying to get back into the room. i was not trying to get back into the room. my wife of the, she went back into the room and everything started when they -- said they were talking about violence and mexico how how crime in mexico is killing so many people. my wife said yeah, you know what those guns are coming from the united states and we all know that. so apparently that was the
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tipping point and without a warning she was thrown from the roof. of course i set something up to that and i was thrown out of the room. now maybe thrown out of the floor and then these huge police officers grabbing my neck and the other one pushing my wife. that was totally unnecessary. like i am not an aggressive person and i know how to react on the situation and that was totally out of line. >> let me ask you, because mark will frost the congressman from florida has retreated the florida, it's gotten over 2 million views. the fact is you and your program that you start to change the rough. this is giving you some publicity. are you glad for that as a result of this. is that something of a silver lining. you're on this network talking with us, you're able to express your concerns, what you hope to see accomplish. is that something of a silver lining? >> listen, i already have a
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spotlight over my shoulders, okay? and i'm not glad of anything that's happening in my life in the last five years. i will be very glad and happy if i have the chance to be watched again with my son joaquin. so if this is showing what we are, people already know who we are. what i do believe, that it's sending a message, that it represents a lot of fathers like may, and a lot of fathers. so yes, i'm glad. and this is not over, by the way. this just happened a couple of days ago. so, i still need to process. i got a lot of calls from lawyers, and other members of congress, and so the real story and what's really wrong here is that these guys are lying and ignoring the fact that gun violence is killing people on a daily basis in our country. >> manuel, all of our, you keep
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