chauvin hearing since 2016. remember, i was the first republican significant person to fight him. i didn't go to the convention. i even endorsed joe biden. ali, you know what i think about that. he's a divider. and the people that supported him, many of them are extremely angry. if you listen to them, they feel totally ripped off. if all you do is encourage that and not give them hope, you end up with people like donald trump. it's very dangerous where we're going at the country. let alone at the party's secondary. it's about the country. >> governor, good to see you. thank you for being with us today. governor john kasich. former governor of ohio. msnbc political analysts. author of a -- ten little ways we can bring about big change. that is from. thanks for watching. stay where you are inside with jim psaki begins right now. the former president held a campaign rally in waco, texas. as a grand jury in manhattan prepares to reconvene tomorrow.

former attorney general eric holder is here on set for sunday exclusive to talk about all of that and more. plus, trump's allies in the house but their sights on discern attorney alvin bragg. i'm not freaking about what they're up to. i'm gonna explain to you why. meanwhile, at least 26 people are dead after a tornadoes tore through mississippi and alabama. we got a live update on the recovery efforts. and later a conversation with gun safety activists turned congressman, maxwell frost. i asked him about vital records, finding a place to live in washington d.c. in his weekend routine. >> as his legal problems continue to mount, donald trump held the first major rally of his 2024 campaign last night. in many ways, it was a typical trump speech. maybe a little less energy. with a lots of self promotion, flat out lies in the usual

votes of -- what's that to me was trump's embrace of the insurrection. the rally opened with a somber -- song recorded by a group of january six defendants while the video from that attack played on the screens behind at the former president. trump also doubled down on his attacks on law enforcement. attacks that have become sharper, more aggressive and far more dangerous over the past week. it's the latest on trump's effort to target the manhattan district attorney. alvin bragg. who's reportedly on the verge of indicting the former president. among other things, trump has warned brag of potential death and destruction if he's criminally charged. he embraced an anti-semitic trope while calling brag and animal. he claims pregnant doing the work of anarchists and the devil. it's probably no coincidence that brags office has received recently received hundreds of threats if. you're one out by trump's outrageous rhetoric and find all of this pretty exhausting, you are not alone. i feel that way a lot of time

to. here is why it's important to pay attention to all of this. the american experiment has survived for nearly two and a half centuries. because we hold our leaders accountable when warranted. not just through elections every couple of years, but under -- by pushing the outer limits of what he can say and do without consequences. donald trump is putting this country through a stress test. he's betting we can -- using fear, a lithe, intimidation. that's where this moment is so unprecedented in our country since three. not just the potential indictment of a former president or potential indictments. or even not just because of a republican party that's become an extension of trump's legal team. we need to pay close attention because a functioning judicial system that hold people accountable is not just a bedrock of the united states, is the bedrock of a functioning democracy. losing that kids -- puts the american experiment and a place of --

democratic values in the world at risk. can't think of anyone better to talk to me more about this then former u.s. attorney general eric holder who served under president barack obama. he's now the chair of the national democratic redistricting committee and he's the author of our unfinished march. thank you so much for joining me here today. i want to sort the bigger picture. you have been at the highest level of the judicial system for decades. you might even be exhausted i, many sauces of all days wides a matter to people to pay attention. why should a? >> i think to pull back here. this it'll be an attack as he described it on the judicial system it's actually part of a larger piece which is an attack on our democracy. judicial system is one of the things we distinguishes united states and the american experiment from other governments. if you go after the judicial system you are in essence going after the foundation of our country. of our democracy. that is something to many republicans are apparently willing to do. following the president, attacking our democracy. every generation of americans

has been called upon to defend democracy. whether it is at gettysburg or at omaha beach or world war ii from selma to montgomery. we have to defend our democracy in this moment in. not be the first iteration to fail to defend our democracy. that means getting up for people like alvin bragg and these are the prosecutors who are simply doing their jobs. >> i want to ask about the manhattan district attorney. reportedly, hundreds of threats against him. you've sat in versions of his role over the course of your career. how damaging and how dangerous are these threats that are out there against him inevitability or the past several days? >> they obviously are dangerous because they can activate people who are outside of the system who are actually as at the embedded what the deputy attorney with just returnee is actually doing. that had no impact within the district attorney's office. >> he's not watching himself. >> you have some degree of understanding of it. something with regard to check smith and merrick garland at the just permanent. not can impact what it is that

they're doing we can activate people outside of the process. the lone wolf who will perhaps get for whatever reason, what donald trump is saying it's actually real and then act upon it. that is the real danger. >> it's the people who are watching now. because the january 6th. when donald trump started escalating his rhetoric. i was a little afraid. i'm sure a lot of people out there were. you oversaw law enforcement. how do they watch all of these threats, these building threats, what's happening online. what are they watching right now? >> security goes up. you start to increase interactions that you have which on terrorism task forces. you start interacting more with state and local authorities. looking for intelligence. trying to find ways in which you can determine whether or not there are actual threats. actionable threats that you need to be concerned about. deploying resources to deal with them. >> we're gonna watch them closely. more so, do you think because, of january 6th? >> we have to learn from january the 6th. we can't forget. not only does he mentioned january 6th. he did this at waco. 30 years or so after the waco

debacle there. a bunch of people died. including 20 atf agents. there is a whole bunch of things that happen in connection. if we worried about a connection with what the former -- when >> i saw that for the last time. a brother in law got married. i came home i was looking at the coverage. i thought i was seeing something fake. donald trump sitting there with footage of the january 6th insurrection behind him. if you are checked smith, do you watch that, do you look at it? how do you consume that? doesn't matter >> this matter? you bring cases as the attorney general said without any of fear or favor. you have to look at the facts. look at the law. apply those things. then hold people accountable. if you don't hold people accountable in connection with january the 6th, that means that all levels. it is an indication of people in the future that they can do something like that and get away with it. >> even though donald trump things -- seems to double down on something he is under investigation for. it doesn't factor in?

>> no, that's-ism about. that's what he does. he tri-city lay, he tries to intimidate. he's right up against forces now that are not gonna be -- not gonna be intimidated. the knights a supportive justice of, the manhattan da's office. the fulton county da's office. these are offices that are steeped in these kinds of things and will know how to respond. i think appropriately. >> i want to ask you there was another letter a, second letter here. i wrote it last night. highlighted. i'm a little bit of a nerd. that was sent by a bunch of republican leaders in congress, jordan being one of them. that chairman of the house judiciary committee. they seem to kind double down on both their work quest for documents and information on this states, dismantling da case. they also seem to suggest that they wanted to remove former presidents from being able to be prosecuted at all. that's gonna how i read it. i'm not a lawyer. tell us a little bit about how uncommon this is or what is -- is there ever a scenario where congress should be seeking

information from an outgoing state local investigation? >> i know of no instance where you've seen congress asked them about a state or local prosecution. they frequently will last questions about federal prosecutions. and even those they get the hand. at the back of the hand of those. you don't talk about ongoing investigations. the notion that jim jordan who ignored a subpoena to disappear in the january six investigation will now how the temerity to try to inject himself into a state local prosecution. it is the height of hypocrisy. it will be something that i'm sure that the da will respond to. my guess would be it'll be a much shorter response than the letter that was actually was sent to him. it's not the kind of thing. you don't ignore it. because you should -- congress some degree of respect. but you're not gonna take it seriously. >> do they have an authority to seek this information? >> now. what's the basis? congress can do these things on

the basis of enacting legislation. that's what the purpose of oversight is. what legislation are you going an active night impact on a state or local authority? zero. >> i want to ask you also about -- he is -- i'm thinking of the questions my mother-in-law, my friends asked me. he this week had to testify and kind of there was a lot of attorney claimed privilege here where the conversation that he was having with trump about these documents we've all heard so much about. no longer was he unable to talk about them. how significant is that? >> extremely significant. it's extremely rare. the question is who ultimately -- >> do you know of other cases? >> there's been instances where we had to pierce the attorney-client privilege. not something that happens only -- the question there is who made the determination to tell a federal authority that all the documents that hadn't been in the possession of the former president had been turned over. that some of the lawyers came

up with or is that something the lawyer said had the direction of the former president. that's why you want to put evan corcoran in the grand cherry. that's what you want to question him. >> what could they learn from this? you are not in it but what kind of information could come out of their conversation? >> you could learn the answer to the ultimate question. if the ultimate answer from and i'm just -- hypothetical now. if donald trump told evan corcoran there are no other documents. i want to tell a federal authorities that there are no other documents never corcoran tells the women who actually put that letter together. then there is criminal liability on the part of the former president. and so if i'm jack smith, i would know the answer that question. >> they could be the question. i want to give -- i share your mutual obsession with the wisconsin state supreme court race which is coming up early next month. people haven't heard of it, they should pay attention to me. it's the most important race happening this year. tell us a bit about the impact of that. the importance of what the outcome could mean.

>> i think it's most important race in 2023. i totally agree with you there. the wisconsin supreme -- probably now the most gerrymandered state legislature in the country. 50/50 state. democrats have only about 35% of the state legislature. strictly as a result of the way in which he lines were drawn. it's unbelievably gerrymandered. the supreme court in wisconsin will have the opportunity to if he lawsuit were brought to decide whether or not those lines as drawn were consistent with the constitution of wisconsin. beyond that, there are reproductive -- reproductive component to this case as well. there's an 1849 statute from wisconsin. -- in all instances. supreme court of wisconsin is gonna have to make a determination about whether or not that it is constitutional. this race will decide whether or not you have a pro aggressive supreme court or a pro conservative supreme court. it's 43 down to four

conservatives. if judge intent was able to win, it would be 4 to 3 for progressives. >> pretty significant. and how quickly could that'll happen? resorting, any chance of new maps. have done pretty quickly. before 2024. how quickly could they do something on abortion rights in wisconsin should she win? >> the case about the 1840s that she is actually in the courts now. that would be decided by the supreme court. i think in a matter of months. was there a lot to be brought to you need to be about the process of redistricting. you could do that probably in the course of nine or 12 months. certainly well before 2024. that race is extremely important. in an extremely important state. wisconsin is a swing state. >> definitely. is an evergreen. one april 4th will all be watching. we will get updates from you maybe. attorney general -- thank you so much for joining me. helping me answer a lot of questions i've had about all these legal cases. >> congratulations. acho >> thank you so much. coming up next, house republicans targeting a manhattan da alvin bragg.

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of, course the former president has not been arrested yet. that didn't seem to stop many republicans from going on the attack. >> your thoughts on the possible indictment from president trump? >> it's a political exercise. voter wouldn't thing is what i call the criminalization of politics. i think it's disgusting. i think it's terrible for our country. it's bad for america generally. >> this i believe supplementation of the weaponization of the federal government and the departments against political opponents. >> the tough part is with a local da. playing a presidential politics. if that starts right there, don't think it'll happen across the country? >> they seem very worked up there. house speaker kevin mccarthy also announced that he was quote directing relevant committees to immediately investigate. congressman jim jordan chairman, at the house to defeat committee. was not done about that opportunity pass him by. by monday, he was on the case.

he sent a letter to manhattan da of a break to mending that he provided documents, testimony and communications firm is about the geisha of the former president. when brett refused, jordan went further and a letter yesterday he said congress might take steps to quote protect former or current presidents from politically motivated prosecutions by state and local officials. by somehow removing certain criminal cases from a state court. that sounds like a pretty serious threat and some written letters out there. after, all house republicans could assert authority over an ongoing criminal investigation, at the state level anytime he wanted, if they could protect former presidents from local prosecutions anytime they wanted. that would be pretty extraordinary. that's a pretty extraordinary power there. i'm not freaking out about what kevin mccarthy or jim jordan are up to because i'm not sure they really thought all of this through. for one, these republicans have gone out on a limb. way out to onaway. to start with, there --

they even know what charges he might face. from a legal perspective, experts point out that jim jordan and his colleagues are overestimating their power including my guess they just had on neither former attorney general of the united states. for the former counsel to the house judiciary committee also pointed out this week that congress cannot lawfully uses investigative power to engage in law enforcement. even if they restored to a subpoena, he also wrote, any such subpoenas should be unenforceable. to the point, them ahead in the da is rightfully holding its ground. yesterday, their office accused jordan of interfering in a pending local investigation. saying this unprecedented increases only to hinder disrupted undermined their prosecutors. in addition to jim jordan's precarious legal argument if i'm being generous. he doesn't exactly have the best track record lately of delivering on promises to begin with. take for example the absurdly named subcommittee on the

weaponization of the federal government. that's literally the name. which was launched just after republicans took control of the house. fortunate orton, this all it was a dream opportunity. to finally reveal all of the deep state corruption at the fbi, the department of justice. all that corruption he's been trying to nancy true for years. and so he was talking a pretty big game about what he had up his sleeve. >> we're gonna get into what's going on at the fbi where we got 14 whistleblowers come talk to us about the weaponization of government there. i'll tell you, what dozens of whistleblowers to come talk to republican staff on the judiciary committee. we have 19 whistleblowers come talk to us -- whistleblower ted, -- we've had now over dozens of fbi agents come to assess whistleblowers. >> dozens and dozens of whistleblowers. >> but of the dozens and dozens of supposed whistleblower's, he repeatedly promised, tournament only able to produce three.

three total. it turned out they weren't really whistleblowers at all. in fact, they weren't even credible witnesses. that was according to a democratic report which revealed that none of those witnesses provided anything of substance. instead, they endorsed conspiracy theories related to january 6th, the efficacy of covid vaccines, and the outcome of the 2020 election. if that all wasn't bad enough, the report also exposed how to the witnesses for basically bought and paid for by former trump officials. you can't make it up sometimes. again, when it comes to these attacks on alvin bragg, house republicans are not only in pretty shake illegal ground they also haven't -- shown themselves to be the most competent of investigators. there is no sherlock homes in the group here that we can see. the thing is this is never been about proving the rolex's a shunts about the doj. the fbi or the district party of manhattan. they're not out to find all the corruption out there. don't take my word for it. here is to jordan just last

year. >> all those things that have been investigated to the truth. plus that will help from the 2024 rate. when i hope and i think president trump is gonna run again we need to make sure that he winds. >> we need to make sure that he wins. telling you what he's doing it right there. that's been their motivation all along. in from addressing the real issue, people are facing across the country by the way. they're in charge of the house after all. from immigration, gun violence to coming up with a plan. to avoid to faulting on our debt. they are fixated on this. for now, wouldn't freak out about what they're up to, would they make it out of this. so far, it doesn't like to have the legal ground or the competency to actually deliver. coming up, ron desantis can't seem to make up his mind when it comes to russian invasion of ukraine. he's done interview after interview and i still don't know what he thinks. all explain what the

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with things they are. i think if we had a policy which was firmer when armed ukraine with defensive and offensive weapons so they can defend themselves. i think we will make different calculations. i think obama's policy weakness is making a larger conflict more likely. i think that a reagan-esque policy, of strength, i think you see people like putin and not want to mess with that. >> that's some pretty standard hawkish stuff from than congressman ron desantis. nothing too surprising about what he said. it's a little confusing earlier this month when desantis responded to a questionnaire from tucker carlson of course about russia's latest ovation of ukraine by saying this. while the u.s. has many vital national interests, becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute, that's the key part there, between ukraine and russia is not one of them. a territorial dispute that is not a vital national interests. this is the biggest war in europe.

definitely seeing a different tune there than he was in 2015. tucker carlson seemed to approve. maybe that was the entire point. which shouldn't be a surprise. he was describing it as a territorial dispute in the same language that tucker, donald trump, and vladimir putin, the guy who is overseeing and directing this invasion by the way would also use. there was also a whole lot of backlash from other prominent republicans. including his fellow floridian marco rubio. who said i don't know what he was trying to do. obviously, he doesn't deal with foreign policy every day as governor. obviously, he doesn't. it seems like all that backlash might have gotten through to him somehow. in an interview with piers morgan, rhonda scientists took another crack at it. >> i think they have the right to that territory. i just think that's the source of the conflict it's in those regions. which there is likely gonna continue be a lot of conflict on that going forward. if i could stand my fingers, and give it back to ukraine ahead of percent.

>> i think he's got great ambitions. i think he's hostile to united states. i think the thing that we've seen is he doesn't have the conventional capability to realize his ambitions. he's basically a gas station with a bunch of nuclear weapons i. i think he is a work criminal. i think the, we've been to the united states because we're concerned about our soldiers or people being brought under it. i think that he should be held accountable. >> so now vladimir putin's war criminal now. who should be held accountable. definitely stronger language in that written statement of tucker carlson. but then, just the day after that interview aired. there was this. >> you had ukraine and russia fighting over kind of the borderlands there in the far eastern part of ukraine. in places of crimea. my position on that is i care more about securing our own border in the united states than i do about the russia ukraine border. seems like the establishment

some of the people that you mentioned. they ignore the problems that we have here at home as americans. >> so if you're having a hard time following, you're not alone. let me try to recap here. it's nothing more than a territorial dispute. the person overseeing this, little territorial dispute is a war criminal. at the same time, we have to worry much more about our own border then said we're criminal. got it, okay, i think. i know there are politics involved here. of course there are. this is a potential presidential primary that he's gonna get a self engaged in. this isn't just about positioning in a republican primary. the rest of the world watches stuff like this very closely. including vladimir putin. if he sees the two liberal candidates for president waffling on support for ukraine. it gets some incentive to wait at the next year and a half and continue to pulverize ukrainian civilians. rather than even being open to negotiating anything.

rhonda scent is may think this is just another political issue to manage. in a primary. what he is saying could actually impact the war. europeans are watching this to. if they think the united states might waver their support. that can impact their calculus as well. regardless of president biden's -- win the most common concern he heard from other foreign leaders was whether they could depend on our commitment to our values. and to our partners. after four years of donald trump. how long would it last was there questioned? you better believe that those concerns will resurface. if they are sensing a return to the isolation sentiments from the leading republican candidates from president. and maybe that one desantis has lurched away from trump on this issue and is a firm supporter of helping ukraine. it may be that he's lurched back. i honestly can't tell. what i do know is this. consistency matters. commitment to values matters. and at the moment, rhonda

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for freshman congressman maxwell frost of florida. he's best known as the first gen z member of congress but don't let is relatively youthful you. he's already had a decade long career as a kind of reform advocate. it's no surprise that his very first bill, which introduced wednesday. it's intended to streamline the justice department's response to gun violence. the next day during a joint hearing on gun violence, the congressman watch a tense exchange between his republican colleagues and many well and british oliver. who lost their son in the park when a massive shooting. they were forcibly removed from the hearing room because of the verbal altercation. prompting congressman frost reprimand his republican colleagues and walk out of the room himself. >> enough is enough. not one more. 12 organizers advocate survivors and families here today. i am so sorry that had to sit through this hearing. i'm so sorry that you had to see what happen outside too many and producer who are just fighting for a world where no other parents have to go through what they went through. and i for one and believe this

has nothing to do with policy and everything to do with politics. i won't be listening to another second of it. i would've let me wall if you made this a decision. i yield back. >> well congressman frost is still very new to washington, he found a place to live. he's critically making a name for himself. i recently spent the morning with him to talk more about his legislative priorities. his passion for music. and his weekend routine. >> do you typically make coffee at home or are you a person who gets it on the way to work? >> i >> get it on the way to work. my girlfriends are barista. or she used to be. she makes recovery. my, not so much. >> what's your typical order when you come to a coffee stop? i >> do a latte. i do what i swallowed -- ice vanilla latte would oak mill. >> always ice, even if it's freezing cold? >> all lead ice cream when it's cold outside. >> congressman, you kind of

just move to washington d.c.. when you are here on the weekend, what is your typical weekend morning like? >> i'm usually never here on the weekends. if i am, all wake up in the morning. i go to this bagel place. >> what do you order there? >> i get a plane bagel. with eggs, cheese, a lot on it. then i asked them to put fresh cream on or whatever on it. that's my meal. >> that sounds pretty good. >> when you go into your refrigerator. is there anything in there or are you a pretty much any doubt kind of guy? >> here, i have a britta and hot sauce. that's it. >> when you're not working is there a show your bingeing right now? >> i just sat down with better call saul. and then before that, i finished -- my girlfriend the night's third we watch. >> what do you like so much about it? >> everything. it's like peak television.

everything from the office trauma to the acting in the writing the conversation. also the aesthetics. when i first watched it. -- after i watched mad men, some very modern. >> you are the first nation seamer congress. probably tired of hearing people say that. enough you know this, the average age of congress is 58. you are a little bit younger than that. have you experience any moments of that age gap. living that age gap? >> something funny. i gave a short speech to the democratic caucus. one of the first days. i brought up jim clyburn's first fry that it does that i've been to. i joke and we refer to it as the coachella of the south. i got have the room laughing -- half of the room lab, tap of the room was like chuckles but question marks. i had members asking me what's

coachella? i got a good opportunity to explain a big part of paul culture. >> one of the things are bring into the table, your activism on gun safety. and you were an activist at 15. how was it impacting your argument on the need for gun safety, the fact that you grew up doing active shooter drills. something that people 20th ago -- >> they have an issue at the forefront of everything i think about. i ended up getting involved into the sandy hook shooting because they didn't get shot in school. three years later, i survived a gun violence myself and downtown orlando. a few months before that, we had pulse nightclub where we lost 49 lives in the heart of orlando. this issue is one that i'm costly my mind because i think it's an issue that the fines iterations. generations should not be defined by shootings and mass shootings. when i think about what connection -- democrat, republican, a matter who you are. it is that drama.

trauma still generation. >> one of the issues you talked about a lot is affordable housing and you've experienced this yourself and you are very vocal about this. you are upfront about it. which is your own experience trying to find an apartment here in washington as a new member of congress. how has that worked out for you so far? >> everyone know i have a place to live now. i drew crown. people know before to reasons. being gen z and not being about an apartment in d.c.. the tough question i get asked is -- we were -- >> now on national news, trying to work on everybody. else >> the other way you've got into politics is through music. music it's been a big motivator for you. big part of your life. you are -- inauguration -- where he is on camera dancing

not very well. >> he's trying its best. >> have you seen the video of him and dancing to your music? >> i think i've seen the video maybe 400 times. did everyone texted to you when i went online? >> when it happened, we saw him dancing. we saw the video of us performer. you see him sort of freak out a point when you see him dancing. that was such an incredible experience for me. >> another big fan of vital records. i hear. >> my dad owns an online vinyl record store. in our house, or in his house, he has six, 7000 records from local records. he's doing his thing and we had a record player in our office. he lends me a ton of records. >> we're gonna go check out a vital record store. let's do it. >> i know you love vinyl record store, is this one even wanted to check out. >> i want to go here. my chief, who lives here for a while, tell me to come here.

>> when you come into a store like this, was the first thing you do? >> i start out one of the first things -- we start looking and will just look through if there's any our work that i like or anything that catches my eye. >> is there an album that you are looking for? the holy grail of albums? >> it changed a lot. i've been looking for specific pressing of pet sounds by the beach boys that have been able to find. i'm always kind of a look out for that. one of the cool things about vinyl you don't really get with streaming these days is you can really appreciate the hard work. it's kind of -- is the first thing you see. >> is that what attracts you divide all over streaming music? the our work and the experience of? it >> i would say. it's a whole thing. it forces people to appreciate the whole body of work versus kind of picking the song that you like or the single you like. >> this is my guy. typically, you'll get an album

here. this one is not like brand-new. a lot of people who listened to it. listen to skip some stuff like that. cried out a little bit. >> you have one stevie wonder song that when you are feeling like you need some stevie wonder, you play that song. >> it's off this album. i would say probably knocks me off my feet. every song of this album i've gone through a face with. this is great. >> the story of your life right here on the album. do you remember what your first concert was? >> i do. it's the wiggles. >> what was your second concert? >> my second concert was -- ferguson who's a trumpet player. he passed away years ago. and other show i remember young was seeing bryan wilson on the smile tour. which was changed my life. i think i'm seeing as person in the room. and the black is person in the room. they were still a great.

>> he's so maybe one of the youngest in the room. if you go to a concert. >> that music is what i grew up on. >> thanks for spending the day with me. you had coffee, of your vital records. what about saturday night? what's next saturday night plan if you're in washington d.c.? >> if i'm in washington, i'll probably had a concert. >> thank you, congressman frost, for spending the day with me. for sharing his love of vital records. and of course, for his activism on gun violence. the longer version of that conversation on youtube later tonight on the msnbc youtube page. be sure to check that out there. coming up, live report from mississippi following this deadly tornadoes that tore through the area on friday night. we'll be right back. racking, you're cashbacking. cashback on flapjacks, baby backs, or tacos at the taco shack. nah, i'm working on my six pack. switch to a king suite-

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sell it, they have to figure out how to resolve this to protect the data and privacy of the american public. it's a tricky one, my bet is it's not gonna be resolved that soon. from -- i want to know more about that, i don't think trump or desantis will win the nomination. what are your thoughts? if you don't think it's one of them and no one else seems like they will win either, who do you think we'll run can win the nomination? okay, here's the thing, it's early. trump and desantis are pulling ahead, especially trump, he's even moved up in the last couple of months, you know desantis had a bump before that. there is still room for them to destroy each other, has kind of tried to do that a bit this week. right now, the other candidates who are in the race are polling -- or below. other people could get in, and there's lots of time, believe me, i work for a guy named barack obama, who is polling pretty low, anything can happen. and he went on to win the presidency and served two terms.

here is the thing, if the gop nomination were decided tomorrow, trump would win, a long way to go there. okay, and from dave, what is been the greatest challenge becoming a host of guangzhou? literally, dave, all the things i want to say -- basically means i have to wrap here. but keep the questions coming. send them our way on twitter, instagram, or text, atlanta more in the future. that does it for me today. we'll be back here next sunday at noon eastern. don't go anywhere, because alex witt reports starts right now. >> a very good at all the msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome, everyone, to alex witt reports. we begin with breaking news and mississippi, in fact, any minute now, we're gonna get a live update on the deadly tornado outbreak from the homeland security secretary, fema administrator, as well as the governor, we're gonna