a 2-year-old girl unresponsive. >> started doing cpr, she started back breathing. thank god. >> but the child did not make it. a devastated captain telling us he can not stop crying. fema agents reminding people to sign up for federal aid, though in this part of the south, many banding together. family and friends just showed up. >> showed up. >> no questions asked? >> just came in, putting hands on. >> we've got a lot to cover in this second hour of chris jansing reports. let's get right to it. at this hour, at least 39 people are dead and dozens wounded after a fire at a migrant center minutes from the u.s. border. more about what the mexican president says started as a former protest. plus, secretary blinken just

got hit with a subpoena from house republicans over the afghanistan withdrawal. more on the documents republicans are trying to get their eyes on. hundreds of thousands of protesters taking to the streets of france yet again denouncing president macron's controversial pension reform plan. and nashville police just give an update on monday's school shooting. the details about the guns legally purchased be i the shooter and what law enforcement learned from an interview with the parents. we'll have a live report. our nbc news reporters are following the latest development, but we begin with catie beck in nashville where police say the suspect legally bought the firearms she later used to kill three 9-year-olds and three adults yesterday. what more have we learned? >> reporter: yeah, the police chief speaking to the media a few minutes ago saying there were actually seven guns

purchased at five different stores, purchased legally, and the shooter was in the middle of treated for some type of emotional distress disorder, that her parents didn't feel she should have a gun and thought the one gun the shooter had owned had been sold. the police chief also said three of those guns were the ones used in the incident yesterday. we did not get a lot more information. he did talk about this manifesto, a detailed plan. even detailing how she was going to enter the school and how this attack would play out, but in term of motive, in terms of why, that question has still not been answered. authorities say they still don't know. the manifesto has been turned over to the fbi to be reviewed. they are continuing their investigation, but as far as these parents are concerned,

they say they are in a state of grief and shock as well having lost their own child in this incident and given the fact there was an emotional condition being treated by a doctor, they were simply unaware of how desperate and how dire the situation was. of course, thinking that the one firearm that was in possession had been sold. chris? >> thank you for that. now to the standoff in france showing no sign of letting up. keir simons is in paris for us. keir, what i see on the streets behind you right now is concerning. obviously what macron has said has not gotten through to the folks on the streets now. >> reporter: oh, no. far from it. we're on the tenth day now. you can see the lit fires. if i take you in this direction, you can see in the disstance there, that is one of the police lines. there is plenty of tear gas in

the air and sometimes at times as the dust comes down here and frankly, we're talking about running battles with police now. one protester told me this is a war. the young people we've spoken to here saying he's arrogant. they feel like he isn't listening. this began as protests over a proposed change at the time of retirement, but many people here saying it's about so much more than that. they feel as if they are powerless and that this is the only way they can express their voices. there were huge protests across paris and france today, but now as you can see once again, the clashes with the police. that is there are many people who tell us the only method. there are also been many people protests.

these are the pictures people are going to see from france. no sign that these protesters are anywhere close to, you can see more tear gas here. that's why we're just trying to back away. it is pretty uncomfortable if you get a mouthful of it. no sign the protesters are giving up and no sign the president going to give up either. >> let me ask you what you're seeing in terms of a police presence and if you feel you're in a dangerous situation, just go away. >> reporter: yeah. there is a police presence here. here, every exit is now blocked by riot police. you can see, the turn there. you can see that there are water cannons waiting to be used if the police believe they are needed and every ten minutes or so, riot police charge into this place to try to disperse the

crowd, but again, there's no sign of that. i suspect this is going to go on well into the evening and we've seen similar scenes in other parts of france. huge strikes across france today, trying to send this message to the president of the country who they say simply isn't listening. >> thank you for that. if there is more activity or more to report, please come back to us. we will come to you. take care. the republican chair of the house foreign affairs committee wants to know what the state department knew in the days leading up to the messy withdrawal from afghanistan, serving a subpoena to secretary blinken. what do we know about what is being called a dissent cable that congressman mccall is after? >> this is one of the most high profile subpoenas that the republican house has directed at

secretary of state blinken. it was delivered around 10 which can and concerns a dissent table, the gist of which it contained a warning from u.s. official that kabul could collapse quickly if the u.s. proceeded with the withdrawal at that timetable in the middle of 2021. one of many communiques within the state department. this comes as many house republicans are trying to build a case that the biden administration botched the withdrawal. there's a recent back story, too. just last week, tony blinken testified before the house foreign affairs company. mccall asked him to turn over the table. blinken refused and said this is a private channel, he has to protect the integrity of the channel or which would with a chilling affect on anybody internally. mccall said that was not acceptable. he said that blinken's offer to

simply have these classified briefing in which the contents were discussed was not enough. mccall said he wanted to see the documents personally. blinken refused. that led to a stalemate. that led to this subpoena and there are still some who hope there could be an accommodation so this doesn't have to escalate further. >> more to come on that. thank you so much. we have a developing situation with 39 people dead, 29 injured after a fire at an immigration detention center in mexico just minutes from the u.s. border. nbc's gabe gutierrez is following this story for us. gabe, do we know what happened here? >> reporter: good afternoon. well, mexico's president today said that in the government-run migrant holding center that several of the migrants had placed small mattresses up against the door of the facility and set them on fire in protest after they found out they would

be deported. at least 39 dead, 29 injured, but it has been devastating to watch the reaction from some of the family members there at the scene as they were searching for loved ones. as you know, juarez, just a few moments from the u.s. border, neighboring el paso, texas. over the last few months, there have been an increasing number of migrants in the area. several hundred stormed the international bridge in el paso. some are seeing this, some human rights are saying that the tightening of asylum restrictions is causing some of these migrants to build up at the border and this is what we're seeing. a short time ago, the mayor of juarez denied any reports from some relatives of those who died and were injured saying that migrants had been rounded up in the hours prior to this deadly fire. juarez's mayor said that had nothing to do with this situation, but still it is devastating to watch.

again, 39 people dead. 29 injured. an investigation is underway to figure out what went wrong here. but mexico's president once again says that this came after some of the migrants lit mattresses inside the facility in protest. >> thank you for that. first nbc news mike pence has been ordered to testify in one of the trump investigations. the reporter who got that scoop is here. plus, georgia's governor trying to expand private school vouchers and make it easier for parents to ditch public school. and they thought world war ii on factory floors. sometimes in heels. and decades later, they're finally being honored for stepping up. you're watching chris jansing reports only on msnbc. you get apple watch se and ipad. all three on us. this offer won't last long. verizon we got the house! you did!

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a major development into the investigation into former president trump's efforts to subvert the 2020 election results. as vice president mike pence is ordered to comply with the grand jury subpoena. laura jarrett was the first to report this story. also joining us, greg bluemstein, political reporter at the atlanta journal constitution and an msnbc political analyst. here onset, lisa ruben and elise jordan, former aide to george w. bush's white house and msnbc political analyst. lori, you broke this story about pence being order to testify

before the grand jury. what more can you tell us at this hour? >> it's really a two-part ruling here. the special counsel had tried to get pence's testimony about his interactions, conversations with the former president leading up to january 6th. the judge has basically said he has to comply with the subpoena. he has to come in and testify about his interactions with the former president. especially, and this is important here, where there has been some alleged allegation of trump's wrong doing and the illegality on the part of trump, pence has to talk about that. what he does not have to testify about apparently is his role on january 6th as the president of the senate that day. he had a ministerial role, certifying election results. the judge has said really giving pence what he wanted here, a victory here, he doesn't have to testify about that. now how much that would exactly cover remains to be scene.

also remains to be scene whether pence will comply or whether he will try to challenge it and go to the d.c. circuit on appeal. >> that's the question. where does this go from here? >> i think pence seeks a stay because to laura's point, this is a bifurcated ruling. it says pence doesn't have to testify about certain things, but he does about others. he's going to seek an immediate stay from the d.c. circuit. the court of appeals right above this judge then he will also appeal the ruling itself. if he doesn't get his way, let's expect an immediate appeal to the supreme court. it will be expedited, but expedited in court than in the real world. >> from a political standpoint, elise, knowing he needs trump's base, he needs those folks who voted for a trump-pence ticket to stick with him. do you think there's any doubt he'll appeal this as long as he can? >> he's said in interviews he'll take this all the way to the supreme court. so i think we can anticipate

he's going to at least put up somewhat of a fight publicly but it really is just delusional for pence to think he's going to regain any of that trump base. when you know we all saw the footage of hang mike pence being chanted by the most hard core of trump's insurrectionist supporters on january 6th. that's not coming back to mike pence. >> he didn't do what they wanted him to do. meantime, greg, you've been reporting on georgia where the governor could be close to signing a bill that would allow the state to essentially punish and remove what they see as rogue prosecutors. a move some see as aiming directly at willis, who's investigating trump. what's the fight over this bill is looking like and is the governor going to sign it? >> i would be shocked if he doesn't. he has advocated for this bill and his allies are lining up behind this bill. his supporters say this has

nothing to do with willis and wouldn't take affect until early next year, but at the same time, it's impossible to separate her from this investigation. she's one of the chief critics of this measure. a lot of her supporters say this is directly aimed right at her. >> this doesn't just have the support of the governor, lisa. it's also backed by the lieutenant governor, bert jones, who served as a fake elector for trump and potential target of the bonnie willis probe. any red flags there? >> yes and no. i don't think he's supporting this because he's a fake elector and he felt he was in the cross hairs. i think it's part of a larger republican strategy and voter suppression activity. when you can't keep people from voting the way you'd like them to, what else can you do? you can overcome the will of the people by making it easier to remove their elect officials.

you can strip them of their rights as we're seeing in ohio and mississippi with respect to abortion. i think it's part of a larger movement among republicans to try and strip from democrats some of the support they're finding in a changed america. >> all of these different investigations trump was asked last night, he made a return on fox. he was asked how a possible indictment might affect 2024. >> i don't know whether it helps or hurts. it's a new way of cheating on elections. it's called election interference. what they're doing is if they can't win at the ballot box because i'm leading everybody by a lot in the polls, they're going to do this kind of stuff. >> what's his message to his followers, fox audience? >> if they can do it to me, they can do it to you has been his big messaging point that he's been trying to stay a little bit

more on message the last couple of weeks you could say. this is donald trump enjoying the movement frankly for him as long as he doesn't end up in jail, any coverage is good coverage. he's commanding the news cycle again. it's 2016 replaying itself only his antics and threats are going to be way more disturbing this go round. >> back to georgia for a minute, greg. what's your sense of the timing or do you have a sense of the timing? we've been saying for a while in new york, oh, the manhattan vote is going to happen any time now. willis has been ordered to respond to a trump motion to throw out the grand jury report by may 1st, this is more than a month away. what can you tell us about timing there? >> we're still thinking springish. maybe early may after this next, this latest deadline. you know, we've heard bonnie willis say it's going to be

imminent, but imminent in legal terms is very different than in our terms. at the same time, we know officials are close watching developments out of new york. the potential protest, the potential political pressure. all that is being carefully watched because it could be a factor in the fallout here in georgia if willis goes forward with what could be even broader case against donald trump if she decides to go that route. >> as we wait for all of these investigations, maybe, maybe not, head toward a conclusion, republican congresswoman nancy mate did not mince words about what she did not want to see in 2024. >> so the last week, you know, it was divisive and destructive for our country and going into 2024, things i am not for, i'm not for paying off porn stars for any reason. i'm not for the drama and the bs that our party is going through because i want to win in 2024. >> i'm not for paying off porn

stars. that seems to be a familiar point, but this is somebody who supported trump. she had a change after january 6th. there was a trump backed challenger to her. is she proof you can challenge trump and survive or is that just a one off? >> i've been very impressed with her political skills. she really does seem to be one of those politicians who has it and she's been brave enough to try to forge a maverick path. she was in a district that had slipped briefly democratic, so it's not entirely anti to her political ambitions to go a little bit more in this direction, but still, i think she has skill in the way she's doing it. >> yeah, some people said this is a swing district and she won it decisively against the democrats. thank you for being here. laura, lisa, greg, elise, you

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so you can [ spray, spray ] astepro and go. we now have a response from the donald trump campaign to that breaking newing we brought you which is that a federal judge has said that former vice president mike pence will have to testify in the special counsel probe that is investigating donald trump and his actions surrounding 2020's election. here's part of the statement. it says the doj is continuously stepping far outside the standard norm in attempting to destroy the long held constitutionally based standard of attorney client privilege and executive privilege. they say there's no factual of legal basis to any case.

they call the democrats deranged. they say mainstream media is corrupting the legal process and they say that we're trying to manipulate and influence an election in which president trump is dominating all across the board. so you can hear that they're not happy with the decision that has been made by the federal judge again ordering mike pence to testify in that special counsel probe. we'll continue to follow that throughout the day here on msnbc. meantime in the last hours of the last days of georgia's legislative session today, the governor is trying to push a bill over the finish line that would expand private school vouchers. $6500 for parents who opt to take their kids out of public school. just one battle in the expanding culture wars over classroom control in this country. and just yesterday, florida governor desantis signed a bill that will give parents virtually unlimited options not to go to public school. they get $8500 vouchers.

greg and elise are back with me. greg, republican lawmakers there did fail to get the school voucher bill passed last week. now correct me if i'm wrong, i understand governor kemp is trying to put his thumb on the scale. there's about 24 hours to go. is this going to pass? >> it's going to be real close. tomorrow's the last day of the session. governor kemp just left a closed door meeting with house republicans here in atlanta to make a final push for this measure because it would be unprecedented. there's a lot of institutional opposition. even from republican lawmakers that $6500 private vouchers for private school and home schooling education from taxpayer funds would undercut their local school districts so this is seen as a threat to public school education. >> the fight is not new, but it has been escalating. there are more and more states

that have passed legislation. it's different in every state. exactly how they're doing the voucher system or what they're doing in this case, but at the heart of it, what is this about? >> this is about a movement in the republican party for parents to have the right to do what they want with their child's education and not have federal involvement. remember the 2012 presidential debate stage where rick perry said he wanted to get rid of the department of education. it's a long ways from when george w. bush pushed through no child left behind and advocated standardized tested. that was not popular with hard core conservatives. t you shift to today and this is where we're at where not just opposition to the common core, it's really being able to completely make that own choice and have the government give them money to do it. >> yeah and on the other side, you have brandy weingarten, and

she was sounding the alarm at the national press club today. take a listen. >> our public schools shouldn't be pawns for politicians' ambitions. they shouldn't be defunded or destroyed by id logs. >> i wonder what you're hearing, greg, on the ground there? because we know what the political argument is but how many folks have you talked to? maybe they're parents, maybe they're teachers. maybe they're school officials, about what will happen to public schools if this passes? >> there are long standing concerns about inequities in schools all over georgia, but there's also a deep concern these private school vouchers would undercut the public school systems and benefit wealthy families that could afford the tuitions that many schools here

in metro atlanta offer. even with the $6500 voucher, private school tuition is still out of reach for a lot of families. so there's deep concern from local school boards and local officials who worry about the future of publication if a measure like this passes. >> the education secretary wrote an op-ed this month calling out florida lawmakers, quote, in addition to spending their days fighting to ban books and black history, some consciousal republicans are calling for state cuts to federal funding. at the levels they're talking about, that could mean slashing funding for schools and communities of concentrated poverty by as much at $3.7 billion, negatively impacting up to 25 million students. it goes back to what greg was just talking about. if you've got a lot of money, your kid can go to school wherever they want. in new york city, the cost of preschool is out of touch for a lot of parents, but is there any

daenger in this strategy for republicans? >> leaving public schools, having public schools in your state deteriorate further, especially are already at bad levels in certain cities. it doesn't seem like a positive public policy agenda. but you look at the history of this, it's not new. especially in the south. you look at brown versus the board of education and desegregation of schools and how a lot of white parents started separate private schools they chose to send their children to. this is a continuation for politics of policies that private citizens have been pursuing for a while. >> elise jordan, it's great to have you onset and greg, always love having you on the program. thank you. in florida, we are already seeing the ripple effects of governor desantis' stop woke act. teachers have spent the last six months trying to regulate a law on what they can and cannot

teach in black history and their specific concern that hard truths about african american history could be whitewashed or eliminated all together. tremayne lee found a former professor who's doing everything he can to make sure florida students hear the painful parts of the state's black history. >> marvin is taking students and their families on an exploration of florida's black past, visiting bural sites of people murdered. their stories buried for decades. morgan joined the tour with her mother, sister, and cousins. >> it has changed the way i think, the way i see slavery, the way i see black people in america. >> folks like me, with these young people for years. now they are awake. >> dunn is sharing his passion

for black history with new urgency as the stop woke act signed by governor desantis last year takes hold in florida's k-12 public schools. squa. >> the law does not mention specific events for people. instead, it bans the way certain lessons can be taught. especially when it comes to race, gender or sexuality. for educators -- because it's vague on specifics, dunn and other educators believe the laws will force them to water down history. >> there's no way to teach history. once you've had to take that out, you don't have history anymore. >> the group visits live oak

where they learn about 15-year-old willie james howard. a black teen who was kidnapped and lynched in the river in 1944 after he wrote a love letter to a white girl. >> at 15. you're the same age that boy was when he was killed. that has to sit with you in some deep way. >> i really felt a sense of serenity and gratitude. that could have been me. >> at greenwood cemetery, they honor a black man named julius july perry. he and others died in the ocoee massacre, where they were trying to exercise their right to vote. a century later, governor desantis signed a new education measure requiring schools to study how to include the massacre in education. >> the ocoee massacre is the

only action that's required to learn. >> since 1994, florida has been one of a few states to mandate the study of black history in public schools. but some black parents worry the laws don't do enough so they seek out events like dunn to teach the truth, to fill in what they see as gaps in their children's education and their own. >> have you ever heard about the ocoee incident? he said, no, mommy. to know that back then in the 1920s, there were prosperous african americans. it shows we've always been successful, but those stories are hidden from us. >> we asked all 67 florida public school districts how they teach african american history. about a third responded, giving us details on the curriculum, but according to the florida department's task force, only 11 of the districts overall qualified as kpem lary. meaning they meet the state's

criteria for instruction. the tour ends at dunn's property in rosewood where in 1993, a white woman's law about being assaulted by a black man led to a racist massacre and a black town destroyed. he wants to build a memorial park here and a museum. for now, he's vowing to keep giving students the nitty-gritty on history. planting seeds he hopes will blossom into a brighter future. >> wow. i mean first of all, can we just talk about the fact we have an individual who feels he needs to fill this gap. 11 out of 66 counties that do not meet the criteria. that's just one state in the united states. what kind of support is he getting for this work? >> he's relying on the good will of folks who believe and maintain this history and also some grant money. in this community in florida,

north florida, it's really been a spark and it's pushed against the whole truth as organized folks in their communities, their families, their church communities. a grandmother and a grandson, a mother and daughter, are learning these tough lessons together. outside of the school system. 11 of 57 are meeting the criteria set by the state to have these families feeling the need they have to go out and tell a neighbor, to tell a neighbor. >> do you see the lightbulbs go off? >> also something warming. something that made them feel strong because black folks have made it through some of the worst times and we're still here. >> amazing reporting. thank you so much. appreciate you coming on the show. tremayne's going to dig more into this on his podcast, into america, so listen now. great podcast. thank you so much for coming on. president biden on the road in north carolina to highlight his accomplishments, but his

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president biden is set to speak at a semiconductor plant in north carolina. you see the flag there, but he's actually running a little bit late. he's expected to push the message that his administration's economic agenda is fuelling a manufacturing boom in the u.s., but also draw a stark contrast to what might happen if republicans get their way in congress. i want to bring in nbc white house correspondent, ali. this is one of what will be many domestic economic trips for this president, but why north carolina and what more can you tell us about the contrast he plans to draw? >> reporter: yeah, chris, it is notable that the president is visiting battleground north carolina to kick off this three-week invest in america

tour across 20 states and he is about to speak at a company called wolf speed that's invested $5 billion in manufacturing semiconductor chips. it's expected to add nearly 2,000 jobs to this area. that's what the president is expected to highlight when he takes the stage in a few minutes. he wants to talk about how legislation passed during this administration. in this case, specifically the chips and science act passed in congress last year, is helping the economy. is helping bring in jobs and reducing a reliance on foreign countries to make those things like semiconductors chips that are used in so many things we use on a daily basis and he's planning to use this economic vision and contrast it with that of republicans. remember republicans have condemned the president's budget plan but they have not unveiled a plan of their own and that's something that the president is likely to take advantage of to sort soft get ahead of this and

essentially use bragging rights to get ahead of whatever arguments republicans can make against his economic messaging. it's also noticeable we're also expecting this re-election announcement very soon by the president and it's notable the states he's expected to visit on this three-week tour. these are states like michigan, georgia, pennsylvania, and nevada. that is something to look out for as we await this expected re-election announcement over the next few weeks. >> well, we see folks in the stands. somebody who's talking to the assembled folks there so we will wait and see when the president arrives. thank you for that. it's a phrase you never want to hear when it comes to a nuclear power plant, that using it is a roll of the dice. that dire warning about a looming catastrophe at a ukraine power plant. plus, getting their roses. usually reserved for veterans of

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if you're tired of staring down your copd,... let's go live to president biden in north carolina now speaking. >> just 9 years old including the daughter of the pastor. three members of the staff, school custodian, substitute teacher, and head of school. i spoke with one of the, actually it was a governor's wife, the governor was telling me his wife was about to have dinner that night with her. there's still more to learn about what happened but there's plenty we do know. we know that this family's worst nightmares occurred. i've lost a child not to that, lost a child to an accident and to cancer, but i'll tell you there's nothing like losing a child. particularly the more senseless it is, the more devastating the

impact. it's absolutely heartbreaking and it's senseless. you know, those children should all be with us still. have a seat if you have one. they should still be with us. as a nation, we owe these families more than our prayers. we owe them action. we have to do more to stop this gun violence ripping communities apart, ripping apart the soul of this nation. protect our children so they learn how to read, write, instead to duck and cover in a classroom. we need to act. i have two shotguns. my sons have shotguns, everybody thinks somehow the second amendment is absolute. you're not allowed to own an automatic weapon, a machine gun, a flame thrower, so many other things. why in god's name do we allow these weapons of war on our streets and at our schools? according to law enforcement,

the shooter had two assault weapons and a pistol. and what in god's name are we doing? these guns, this is hard to believe. i never thought when i started my public life that guns would be the number one killer of children in america. guns. number one. it's sick. and overwhelmingly majority of gun owners agree. we have to do something. not just everybody. gun owners agree. there's a moral price to pay for inaction. last year, we came together to pass most significant gun safety legislation in 30 years. it was bipartisan. we got it done and don't tell me we can't do more together. so i again call on congress to pass it. this should not be a partisan issue. it's a common sense issue. we have to act now. people say why do i keep saying this if it's not happening? because i want you to know who isn't happening. put pressure on them.

you know i know you see on television, the weapon in terms of its semiautomatic in effect. but the velocity with which it comes out of that muzzle. what it does when it hits the body. most bullets would go straight through and out but it blows up inside your body. what in god's name. what in god's name does anyone need that for in america? folks, look. i mean, let me speak to what i came to talk about. i want to thank the senator and mayor. thank you for the passport to the city and governor cooper, thanks for inviting me back to north carolina. he should know better but he's been inviting me back. he's been doing this a lot. >> president biden, who is there to talk about the economy, but once again as he has had to do so many times instead, is talking about a mass shooting

including the loss of six people. three of them just children. 9 years old. and saying once again that he knows what it is to lose a child. he did lose a very young child. he also lost his older son to a brain tumor. calling again, ali, for something we have heard from him time and again. pass the assault weapons bans. something that his administration when he was with the obama administration, tried desperately to get done, but has not been able to make progress. talk a little bit more about the president's message following the shooting in nashville. >> yeah, chris, we've heard the president renew those calls for an assault weapons ban so many times because specifically after this shooting in nashville yesterday and those calls today, reporters had a chance to ask him about what sort of action he could take. is there any more he can do in his executive power besides call

on congress and he admitted he is now laying this at congress' feet to do more, saying he's limited in his executive power. especially after a few weeks ago, remember, he issued that executive order that essentially makes sure that all the provisions that passed in the bipartisan safer communities act that passed last july after the shootings in uvalde and buffalo, he wants to make sure that all of the provisions passed in there are working at full capacity. that's really all he can do right now. so as we're hearing the president in north carolina again renewing those calls for an assault weapons ban, he did so yesterday again after that shooting. the gut check here and that is essentially a call that is dead in the water when you think of this divided congress the president is working with over the next two years and when you remember the bipartisan safer communities act passed with democrats in control of the white house, the senate and the

house and still considered historic but moderate and modest in the changes to gun control after the shootings in uvalde and buffalo. >> thank you for that. as we watch the president speaking in north carolina, also making a call for a moral price to pay, he says. if there is inaction, but inaction there has been. to protect our children is a priority so they can learn to read and write and not to duck and cover. we're going to continue to listen to what the president has to say. we'll have more for you from north carolina throughout the day, but that's going to do it this hour. join us every weekday, 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern. our coverage continues with katy tur reports up next. vmware helps you keep your cloud options open. as someone living with type 2 diabetes, i want to keep it real and talk about some risks.

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good to be with you. i'm katy tur. form vice president mike pence has to sit for the counsel. a federal judge in washington, d.c. -- most of pence's argument to avoid testifying. the speech and debate clause shielded him in his role as president of the senate. we're going to explain what the judge said about alleged illegality on the part of donald trump and what it means for pence in a moment. also, what the judge conceded to pence's team. we also have breaking