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good to be with you. i'm katy tur.
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form vice president mike pence has to sit for the counsel. a federal judge in washington, d.c. -- most of pence's argument to avoid testifying. the speech and debate clause shielded him in his role as president of the senate. we're going to explain what the judge said about alleged illegality on the part of donald trump and what it means for pence in a moment. also, what the judge conceded to pence's team. we also have breaking news on the trump hush money case. we're going to explain that so don't go anywhere. joining me now, laura jarrett. from west palm beach near mar-a-lago, and former chief attorney also here in new york, garrett haake for the reporting. all right, laura. i'm going to begin with you. let's talk about what you've learned about former vice president mike pence. what did the judge say about why
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he is compelling him and ordering him to testify? >> the headline is that pence will have to testify in front of the special counsel grand jury there in washington, d.c. about his interactions with the former president leading up to january 6th. all of their conversations, some of which he laid out in his book in a wall street op-ed, those are fair game according to this new ruling from the judge issued on monday. the former president trump also has tried to make some arguments about executive privilege, potentially shielding their conversations. we've seen him do that with a number of his aides in the past. those efforts have failed. you mentioned that the judge conceded something to pence, which is important here because pence tried to make the argument that because of his role as president of the senate on january 6th, he should be shielding from anything related to january 6th. the judge did not go that far, but he did acknowledge that pence would theoretically have
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some immunity because of that ministerial role but he didn't go as far as pence wanted him to. >> some immunity in that role. do we know how that is going to apply? >> no. i think that's the big question here and what we need some more reporting on and how that would play out in front of the grand jury. if he was asked a question that he thought was off limits, do they decide to certify that and take it to a judge and fight it or or let this go. it remains to be seen. >> donald trump's team was claiming executive privilege to stop pence from testifying, but the same judge rejected that argument, too, yesterday. and i understand that the trump team is releasing a statement. what does it say? >> reporter: yeah, we actually just got that statement from the trump team and they did ask us
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to read it in its entirety. the doj continuously stepping far outside the standard norms in attempting to destroy the long accepted, long held constitutionally based standards of attorney client privilege. there's no legal basis or substance to any case against president trump. the deranged democrats and their comrades are corrupting the legal process and weaponizing the justice system in order to manipulate and influence an election in which president trump is dominating across the board. that's the thing right there is that no way to forget and certainly former president trump has not forgotten this is all playing out against the backdrop of his bid for the white house and so all of the moves he is making right now be it his attacks on manhattan d.a. alvin bragg, his rallies, images of
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death and destruction. interview with sean hannity last night. all of it is directed toward this investigation, but it's also playing at the long game of getting folks engaged. getting folks riled up and rallied around him as he looks to win this primary and down the line beat joe biden. >> garrett, i'm going to ask you the -- let's start with the news about vice president mike pence. his testimony would be a major part of what the special counsel would need to flush out donald trump's motivation. thinking on january 6th. >> look, mike pence is the only person who knows in those private conversations between he and the former president. pence has made some of his senior aides available to testify. but all we've heard from him is what he chose to write in his book and what you write in a book versus what you testify to under oath could be two
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different things. trump's state of mind. his specific instructions to pence or his statements about what he thought might be coming on january 6th. they're all material and all things we've had third hand. getting them from pence. if those were the kinds of things he's allowed to testify to, it's a big deal. >> breaking news out of the manhattan d.a.'s office. >> they're done for the week when it comes to the trump probe. the grand jury is not expected to meet at all tomorrow. on thursday, they're expected to meet, but they won't hear the trump matter. in new york, sometimes these matters are shared so they could be hearing something else entirely on thursday. it won't be trump. they did not vote on indictment monday. we're back into this guessing game here about how the strength of the case, the next steps and when they might be taken but it won't be this week. >> also we're looking at the calendar. next week's passover. then the easter holiday break for people here in new york city so you wonder whether this gets
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push down the line. karen, tell me what you think is going on. >> i've always thought the timing of the indictment is going to be tied to security. how to keep new yorkers safe. how to keep trump safe. and he has been calling for whether on tuesday, death and destruction, alvin bragg's head with a baseball bat. he's already doing his playbook of trying to whip up people into violence. so secret service, fbi, nypd, all of the law enforcement including the d.a.'s office are all coordinating on what to do this. when to seek the vote to try and -- >> seek the vote. that's not guaranteeing an indictment's going to come. >> exactly. there is no guarantee that there will be an indictment that the grand jury will choose to indict him, but assuming that's a possibility. when to seek the vote. i think they are going to tie that to when he's going to be in town. he was supposed to be in town this week for a deposition and
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i've been told that is no longer the case. i am not surprised that because of that, it has been postponed. >> what case is he facing in new york city where he could in theory be asked to come for a deposition? >> the carol case. she was sexually assaulted i think in the 1980s. '70, excuse me. there's a lawsuit from the new york ag and there's other business related cases he's involved in although i don't know if those are in a deposition stage. >> so there's a feeling or idea that he will have to be here for another purpose and maybe if they're going to do this, time it to when he's here that way he doesn't get the run up to go to waco, texas, for instance, and say they're coming to get me. you should show up in manhattan on this day because that's the day i'm going to be there and that's the day you should protest. >> i think at some point, they are going to bring to this a vote. i don't think they're going to postpone this indefinitely. we thought it was this week
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because he was going to be in new york and then when that got postponed, i think they need to coordinate it with security. >> let's talk about david. you confirmed he went in yesterday. do we know anything more about what he testified to? >> not really. but you know, his involvement in this is pretty obvious from the jump here. this is somebody who was the person who introduced michael cohen and stormy daniels. he knew how to do it because he had done a similar payment himself. he had bought the story of another woman who claimed, the former playboy play mate, a short time prior. he's interesting because he was a trump friend, ally. he was involved in both of these payments. could describe how they work and potentially when trump knew about them. that's going to be a really key part of this. was michael cohen acting on his own? he could know the answer to those questions and he presumably has more credibility
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with the grand jury. >> he was granted immunity in the federal case against cohen. would he be exposed to any legal jeopardy here? >> when you testify in a grand jury in new york state, you're automatically conferred immunity on the matter you're testifying about which is why if a defendant wants to go in like donald trump was offered the opportunity to go in, they have to waive immunity in order to testify. so he would automatically be granted immunity to go in. >> can i ask you what might be a dumb question. why can't the d.a. bring charges on his own? why does he have to go to a grand jury first to get them to vote on charges? >> so, you can be charged with a felony in new york one of two ways. one is you get arrested by the police and they bring you to court and they file a complaint. ultimately to proceed as a felony, you have to indict it by the grand jury.
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to get to supreme court, which is the trial level in new york state, you have to either waive up there or get indicted by a grand jury. >> all right. so we are playing the waiting game. as we play this waiting game, donald trump has been welcomed back for the first time in a long time on fox news. what happened there? >> the first time since the legal filings from the defamation lawsuit were made public where we saw some of the leadership of that network privately condemning donald trump, but he did sit down with fox news host sean hannity in that interview. no tension was evident. it was a very welcoming atmosphere from hannity and look, trump addressed the indictment. he addressed some of the criticism around his rhetoric around the photos of him with the baseball bat, the death and destruction comments. >> they put up a picture of me
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and you know where i was holding the baseball bat? it was at the white house make america buy america because they did a lot of buy america things. this is a company that makes baseball bats. then they put next to that picture, a picture of bragg. i didn't do it. i didn't say death and destruction. i said i'm afraid. i didn't say do something bad. i say i am afraid that people will do something because people are very angry about it. >> the they there he was referencing not entirely clear who he was talking about. as i mentioned, this is very much playing out against the backdrop of 2024 and while he once again attacked bragg, attacked the investigation, he also did mention this could potentially help him in the election as well and of course as expected, he did go after ron
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desantis saying he would be working in a quote pizza parlor shop if it weren't for him. >> does it seem like, garrett, that the party is starting to coalesce around trump? >> he certainly has his enemies and rivals within the republican party but this last two weeks have given him the thing he craves the most, which is the spotlight. and he's used it in two ways. he's forced republicans to pick sides. you're either with him or a liberal d.a. in new york city who's out to get him. there was a marist poll yesterday. 80% of republicans think this is a witch hunt. >> what about independents? moderate republicans? >> that's a question for another time. closed primaries in early states, those voters who are sticking with him on this, that matters. also, it's given him the stage to clobber desantis over and over again. his team has used this moment to
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try to turn everything against him. desantis is still not a candidate and not sort of firing back. >> thank you very much for your reporting. karen, thank you for your analysis and experience in the d.a.'s office. coming up, right now actually, a maryland appeals court has reinstated the murder conviction of serial podcast subject that was overturned last september. he was released from prison where he had been serving for a life sentence for the 1999 killing of a man. joining me now is ken dilanian. explain this ruling. >> many viewers will remember that he was freed last fall after 23 years in prison after the prosecutor in the case said that he was not the murderer. that they had evidence pointing
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to other suspects. the first thing to say is there's no reason to believe he will be going back to prison. this is a proceed yal issue. the court ruled the victim's family was not given proper notice to appear at the hearing in september. so the court is ordering what they call a new legally compliant and transparent hearing on the motion to vacate where the family of lee is given notice of the hearing that is sufficient to allow them to attend in person and where that evidence to vacate the conviction will be presented again and the court can once again state its reasons. in other words, they can just do the whole thing again with members of the family present and the court can vacate the conviction. there's not going to be anyone arguing against doing that because the court denied the family's request to be a party in the case and to argue for that. again, the. says what will happen is that
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the prosecution did not give the lee family very much notice. about a day before they did this hearing that vacated the conviction of the man they believe murdered their loved one. so the family took issue with that and has petitioned the court, but it does not mean that saed is going back to prison because the prosecutors in the case say he is not the killer in this case. >> thank you very much. and what happens when a bullet from an assault rifle hits a human body. we have a trauma surgeon joining us to tell us what officials do not. and what kind of country will israel be? the push has been delayed for the judicial overhaul. we'll show you what is happening on the streets of israel. and in france, sanitation workers say they will start picking up the garbage which has been piling up on the sidewalks for three weeks. that is about the only good news. we'll go live to paris where the government warned that radical demonstrators to injure and
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we've just learned the shooter in nashville was being treated for an emotional condition according to police. would a red flag law stopped her from getting a gun? the police chief says her parents told them they believed she didn't have any weapons after one of their guns was sold. they did not know she was hiding more in the house. she used those guns to kill six people at the covenant school. three 9-year-olds and three adults. joining me now from nashville is jasmine and ryan nobles. bring us up to speed on everything you learned from the latest news conference. >> you talked about the interview the police chief had, investigators had, officers had
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with the parents of the shooter. we're learning of the fact the shooter had several firearms on them. three of them were with the shooter. when they went to the covenant school. all three were puchlsed legally. the parents told the officers they thought she sold the only one firearm that the suspect had when in fact they had six extra that never sold that one you mentioned being treated for an emotional disorder. we know the police here in nashville, they responded pretty quickly. they got the phone call in at 10:13. the shooter was neutralized at 10:27. at 10:24 is when they engaged the shooter. we've got a lot of security footage, body cam footage which i want to bring up now if i can because it really shows how quickly they responded.
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from when the officers came on the campus, the shooter engaged them through the second floor through a window and that's where the shooter was neutralized 14 minutes later. let's take a look then we'll talk on the other side. >> go right! >> your hair stands on edge watching that thing, realizing at any moment they could encounter that shooter then wondering where the kids are. where were the kids hunkering down for safety. during the press conference, the police chief was asked about where the bodies were found. where the victims were found. we were told the victims were not targeted. that was random. the school in fact was a target.
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the victims were all in separate areas. the head of the school was found in the hallway. that's the only specifics we got from the police chief. and he said it seemed as if the head of school may have confronted, had a run in. we're also learning more about the manifesto and how there was maps of the building. this shooter knew this building inside and out and we know the suspect attended the school when they were younger. so we're looking to learn more about the motive and that is something that is still outstanding. asvly4ç i spoke to jim kavanaug earlier, he saw it as if once the officers arrived considering what we've seen on the footage, it seemed as if the victims had already been killed. but that's still in question as we're just trying to sift through all of this material that we're getting from the
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police chief and the officers here. >> and just we've seen so much of the uvalde video and we saw how the officers just didn't respond in uvalde. quickly at all. and just seeing the lead officer in this scenario push through and hurry everybody out, it was amazing to see that. still no matter how fast you move, it's not going to be fast enough. what about red flag laws? speaking of being fast enough. what about red flag laws? background checks. what's on the books in tennessee that could have prevented hail from getting these weapons? >> nothing. there's no red flag laws on the books in tennessee. the police chief was asked if they had known that the shooter was a threat to themselves or to others, they would have attempted to acquire the weapons if they had known they were in their possession. i'm not quite sure how the police chief thinking they would
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have done that because there are no red flag laws on the books here in tennessee. in june of 2022, both of the shootings i covered on the ground as well, democrats here tried to institute red flag laws. they were struck down. they tried to repeal open carry. that did not go through. remember in june, obviously, the biden administration passing major gun legislation. both republican tennessee senators voted no against that legislation. if you institute red flag laws in your state according to the biden gun legislation, you would get $750 million in your state towards instituting those laws. tennessee does not have red flag laws on the books. so in fact it would not have prevented the shooter from obtaining those weapons no matter what emotional disorder they were being treated for. >> all right. we hear about treating mental
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health from both sides. but from the right, they know instead of changing gun laws or reforming gun laws, let's treat mental health. you heard yaz min say what's going on in tennessee. had a picture of his family, assault style rifles, the christmas card. i would also like from you, ryan, whether does anybody in congress having a gut check today. about whether what they're doing is enough? >> well the short answer to that question is no. you might be able to find one or two republicans who on the margins will talk about strengthening some of the background check laws, but in totality, there's not nearly enough inertia to go beyond that legislation you talked about passed in the last congress. republicans just do not believe
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that regulating guns will lead to fixing this problem. they don't believe those two things have anything to do with each other despite evidence to the contrary. you mentioned representative ogles and he was about specifically about the christmas card photo he took with his family. listen to how he responded to it. >> i think ultimately what this does is highlight some mental health issues, the mental health crisis we have in this country. that needs to be the real conversation we're having now. how did this individual slip through the cracks? >> any regrets about that today post and the photo, your christmas card? >> why would i regret a photograph of my family exercising my rights to bear arms? >> so not backing down from that at all despite the optics of what is happening in his hometown. this shooting took place in his district. you mentioned the tennessee lawmakers. across the board, tennessee lawmakers tend to be pretty strict when it comes to the
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second amendment. you mentioned both senators not voting for the bipartisan gun control legislation. jim birch, another tennessee congressman, represented the knoxville area. his answer to me was basically that you cannot legislate out evil. that taking away the guns isn't going to solve this problem. i asked specifically this type of gun violence isn't anywhere else in the world. he added we have a lot more freedom in this country. when you start to see where things are on balancing of the scales, there seems to be a level of tolerance with some of those who are opposed to gun control when it comes to tragedies like these. >> more guns on the streets has led to more gun violence. that's just the facts, it's not my opinion. just the facts. thank you very much. and jon stewart recently sat down with nathan dunn for his apple tv show. in the interview, donald argues
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the second amendment to be regulated in any way and that the government has a responsibility to protect children from drag shows. >> you want to ban drag show readings to children. >> yes. >> why? what are you protecting? why are you banning, is that free speech? are you infringing on that performer's free speech? >> just not in front of a child. >> why? >> the government has a responsibility in certain instances -- >> the leading cause of death amongst children in this country, a hint. it's not drag show readings to children. so what is it? >> i presume you're going to say it's firearms. >> it's not an opinion. it's firearms. more than cancer, more than car accidents.
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you're telling me you don't mind infringing free speech to protect children, but when it comes to children that have died, you don't give a flying [ bleep ] to stop that because that shall not be infringed. that is hypocrisy at the highest order. >> joining me now is democratic texas state senator gutierrez. thanks for being with us. we talked a lot after uvalde. i hate having you on to talk about this, but i think we could have predicted we'd have you on to talk about that. maybe again next week. hopefully not. but tell me what you've done to try and strengthen red flag laws? get them passed in texas to address at least a part of this issue. >> we filed 21 bills in honor of those 21 lives lost. 19 children and the two teachers, on may 24th.
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21 bills that dan patrick, our lieutenant governor, speaker of the house, and the governor of the state greg abbott simply don't want to hear. as you know, we live in a republican controlled state. super majority, much like tennessee. and there is simply no laws on the books to protect our kids. this is the number one leading cause of death. not the fentanyl scare that they would like to have us believe. it's not drag shows. as jon stewart just suggested. they want to burn books in texas. what florida does, texas seems to want to do, but at the end of the day, we're not doing anything about the number one cause of death with children and that's guns. it's not people. certainly there's a component of mental health, but we're doing absolutely zero on guns because republicans care more about the nra and money than they do our
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children. >> an interesting statistic today. after the sandy hook shooting in 2012, the first one of these terrible kindergarten shootings, connecticut instituted universal background checks, outlawed new high capacity magazines. from 2014 to 2021, connecticut saw a 41% reduction in homicides. in 2020, connecticut had the sixth lowest gun death rate among all 50 states according to guns in the u.s. stats from them. you know, we focus a lot on lawmakers because they certainly have the power, but they have the power because people put them in office. should more attention be paid to the decisions that individual voters are making when they put people in positions to say no to any sort of checks on the second amendment? >> well, the facts are that 75%
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of republican voters want common sense gun safety solutions. protecting borders. background checks. closing the gun show loophole. age limits at 21 or higher. these things are constitutional. they're allowed. and voters want this but unfortunately, republicans like greg abbott, ted cruise, haggerty in tennessee, they would rather represent the interests of the nra and big gun companies than to do what's right. the voters absolutely want change. not just democrats. the people back home want to make sure we're providing a safe place for our children to go to school. i want everybody to listen out there. imagine that three families sent their kids to school yesterday. and those little babies, they didn't come home. imagine what it feels like to
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not have your little baby girl or little baby boy come home. politicians need to start waking up on this issue. we need to do something and do something now. >> i think every parent in this country who's dropped their kids off at day care or school or sent them off to college or put them in the grocery store frankly, has now felt that same way at some point. they've had that same thought. thank you very much for joining us. come up, it's not a story we want to do, but i think it's important. a trauma surgeon's going to explain to us what officials do not. what exactly happens to the human body when a bullet from an assault style rifle hits it. plus, what happens if the white house extends an invitation to prime minister benjamin netanyahu and could president biden convince him to drop his judicial overhaul?
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the first thing they talk about is taking guns away from law-abiding citizens and that's not the answer. >> do you think there's room for anything from congress? >> i don't. i want to see how the mental health component in particular of what we did last session has any effect. we can't solve everything with legislation. >> republican lawmakers say they can't solve everything with legislation as you just heard. critics argue the lack of urgency you heard there could be in part because they along with gun advocates and voters once you vote for them, don't see how bad gun violence actually is. joining me now is the founder of this is our lane, medical
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professionals who treat gun violence victims dr. joseph saccharin. he's at john hopkins hospital and survivor of gun violence himself. thank you so much. i didn't want to have this conversation. i didn't wake up thinking i want you to come on and explain this to me. i think it's important because when we hear about these incidents, we heard a saccharin version of it. it's awful, yes, we can all imagine, but we don't hear the gritty and gruesome details. the parents see it, surgeons see it. but the rest of us watch and move on and hope for the best. can you tell me in detail what it's like for an assault style rifle to hit the human body? to hit a kid. >> yeah, well, look, thanks so much for having me. i'll say you're right. you know, in our country, there's very few that actually see what's happening and see the
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carnage that we experience on a daily basis in cities across america. when you look at the assault style rifles and think about the speed of which the projectile is traveling, the energy that is imparted on to the tissue results in this blast effect. you can think of it almost as if a boat was on a still lake and traveling. the fasterl larger the wake and that wake is that blast effect that happens on the surrounding tissue that pulverizes bones and that frankly resulting in disintegrated organs. >> is there any surviving being hit by an assault style rifle?
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>> of course, it's depent dent on a lot of different factors. the first thing is looking at the trajectory of these bullets. if the bullet happens to cross a major blood vessel like aorta, your risk of death increases significantly. but say it doesn't. yet the blast effect impacts that area. well then you are at risk of higher mortality and you can imagine these children, these babies, where their organs are compressed and so much smaller. the type of energy and destruction that's happening. and it's absolutely devastating because frankly, the only people that see that carnage are those children that are actually in the room. the parents that have to identify those bodies. and the front line providers
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like law enforcement, medical examiners and us as trauma surgeons that are trying to do everything possible to save those lives. >> when you get a patient that's experienced this, what is it like to try and put them back together? >> you know, it's incredibly difficult. i came to this as as a survivor of gun violence. i think about the unique vantage points i've had and the reality is that despite how good we think we are as trauma surgeons or despite how incredible our trauma center may be, the best medical treatment is often prevention which is why in my role as a board member, we work at the intersection of medicine, public health, and public policy to try to push forward data
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driven solutions that will allow us to insure communities are safer and it's about time we put our children first. we have the responsibility to do that. >> thanks for giving us the beginner's version of this. >> thanks for having me. >> we'll be right back. bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv ubrelvy helps u fight migraine attacks. u put it all on the line. u do it all. so u bring ubrelvy. it can quickly stop migraine in its tracks within 2 hours... without worrying if it's too late or where you are. unlike older medicines, ubrelvy is a pill that directly blocks a protein believed to be a cause of migraine. do not take with strong cyp3a4 inhibitors. most common side effects were nausea and tiredness. migraine pain relief starts with u.
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tensions are using in israel, at least for the moment, and now there is talk prime minister netanyahu could be heading to washington. the u.s. ambassador to israel said this morning, president biden will host netanyahu at the white house saying quote, as soon as their schedules can be coordinated. but a white house national security council spokesperson appears to be backtracking saying no plan or invitation has been put forward at this time though there will likely be a visit quote at some point. the back and forth comes after netanyahu announced he would pause an attempt to overhaul the country's entire judicial system, which has sparked the largest protest in israel's history. joining me now from te aviv is raf sanchez. so bb is pausing this as members of his coalition say it's still going to happen. what's happening behind the scenes and if it's still going to happen but later, what are protesters doing? >> reporter: well, protesters
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were back on the streets today. as far as they're concerned, this is not over. they are saying a delay is not good enough. they want a firm commitment from netanyahu that this legislation is dead, buried, and not going to be resurrected anytime soon. i spoke to one of the protest leaders earlier and she told me she fears netanyahu is trying to lull them into what she calls a false sense of security before bringing the bill back up sometime after passover. she told me part of the reason stakes are so high here, especially for women, is that they watched what happened in the united states when the supreme court removed the constitutional right to abortion an they really fear about what will happen to their rights with a supreme court that is packed with justices appointed by netanyahu and his allies in government. i want you to take a listen to a little bit of our conversation. >> i think both women understand their rights are not guarded and
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we need to stay awake and keep our eyes and we saw that it happened in united states and now we see it happen here. >> you mentioned a back and forth about whether netanyahu's going washington. the comments were interpreted here and in the united states as a sign they were saying okay, slate wiped clean, netanyahu addressed our concerns, the relationships can go back to normal then a couple of hours later, you have the national security council saying well actually, there's no visit in the books. i think what you're seeing here is a white house that has the same question we do. the same question as the israeli protesters do, which is is this crisis actually over or is it delayed and that is something we just don't know the answer to right now. interestingly, there has been a political development tonight. we are seeing negotiators from the israeli opposition parties sitting down with representatives of netanyahu's
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government. that is the first time that has happened. and the opposition says it's only because netanyahu is hitting the pause button. >> they said netanyahu's government is attempting a power grab. thank you very much. today marks the tenth day of nationwide protests against french president macron's reform. what the french government is warning residents as the standoffs, many, desolve into violence.
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the eiffel tower and louvre are closed protesters are on the tracks at a rail station, smoke bombs let off at an airport. hundreds of thousands of protesters crowded france's streets again today, to denounce president macron's pension reform pushed through. now some are warning they're trying to take advantage of the anger. the french interior minister said there were more than 2,000 incidents of arson on streets. fires lit by radicals, according to him, his words, with the intent to destroy and kills. nearly half the officers deployed concentrated in paris alone as the country braces for more unrest. joining me from paris is keir
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simmons. just a few minutes ago i saw you on the streets amid the protesters, what is it like today? >> reporter: it's cooled a little bit now, you can see the police presence on the streets of paris but the protests have largely dissipated. we watched as riot police pushed them back where they gathered and they were lighting fires and there were tear gas fired. but slowly they were pushed out of that area and now the evening is coming to a close, to be honest. but they have announced they plan another day of action in april so that will be the 11th of day of action. so they certainly plan to keep coming back and continue these protests, as you say, every one of them, everyone we spoke to, talking about just how arrogant they think president macron is. furious with him, their sense of powerlessness, the sense they
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can only get their voices heard coming out to the streets. many of the protesters protesting peacefully but then those young people clashing with police. so it's been an interesting day today. and i think we're going to have more days like this as both sides, the protesters and the president don't appear in any mood to back down. >> there is word that the garbage collectors will pick up the trash after three weeks of letting pile up on the streets. keir simmons, thank you very much. that does it for me today. "deadline: white house" is next. and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine or plan to. ♪♪ ♪ it's my moment so i just gotta say ♪ ♪ nothing is everything ♪ talk to your dermatologist about skyrizi. learn how abbvie could help you save. i think i'm ready for this.
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