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at this hour, the usual suspect, the federal arrest made possible by an unlikely source, the dna left on a partially eaten burrito. the senate just voted to repeal authorization for the gulf and iraq wars, but how likely is it to pass the republican-led house. also, home prices are cooling for the 7th straight month. we'll dig into latest numbers. and gun safety bills were just introduced in the last couple of hours. we have an exclusive interview with the congresswoman behind them, and two gun violence survivors from her district. our nbc news reporters are following the latest developments. let's start in d.c. where congressional lawmakers are deadlocked when it comes to gun laws. that doesn't mean they aren't doing anything.

nbc's julie tsirkin is on the hill with new action this afternoon. what can you tell us? >> reporter: yeah, that's right, chris. i actually just sat down with congresswoman slotkin, who was in a press conference with two students from her district who survived shootings at oxford high school and michigan state university. she introduced a series of bills along with senator ed marquee here in the senate that would essentially have to do with firearm transfers. that's all they have to do with, and in addition, additional funds they want to see with the cdc to boost research for firearm safety and gun violence prevention. we sat down after that interview, and i asked her, when did you start working on these bills because of course she did not start working and after the nashville shooting monday, these are bills she has been working on since the shooting at michigan state that happened in february. i sat down with her as well as the two students, dillon and daniel. take a listen to one portion of our exchange with representative

slotkin. watch. >> they spent their last week banning books, and figuring out ways that communities can book books, and a book never shot anyone in the face. they have lost the plot. they are focusing on issues that are dog whistles, cultural issues to drum up political enthusiasm instead of focusing on protecting our children, and history will not reflect well on them and their party right now. >> reporter: chris, that was slotkin's response when i asked her if there's any assurances that her bill will get a vote on the floor. she sold me no, and when asked what president biden has called for, if congress will take action on assault weapons, she went into talking about what congressional republicans spent last week doing, which is to pass a series of parents' rights bills, for schools, in addition to bills that would enable states to ban books, essentially. there you have it. not much movement on the gun

legislation fund. elissa slotkin who is running for senate tells me she is trying. it's the center point of her campaign. >> the center piece of a lot of campaigns, i have a feeling. for a look at the housing market as home prices fall for the 7th straight month. we're getting new data showing pending home sales grew a little bit, up .8% in february. help us make sense of what's going on in the housing market? >> reporter: i'll start with home prices. they have been cooling off for seven months because mortgage rates began rising from their record low prices in january, which was the last read we got. we're up close to 4%, compared with january of last year. that annual comparison has been shrinking fast. if you look locally. prices are down now in the west, especially where they were so overheated, sitting like seattle, san francisco, phoenix and vegas. what's keeping under prices in most of the country is very low

supply. there are still too few homes for sale, given the continued strong demand. now, as you said, sales were up month to month, but just barely, under 1%, and still down 21% from a year ago, and he's why. take a look at mortgage rates, they started dropping off their fall highs in december, and came down sharply in january. boom, they shot right back up in february. these sales are called pending sales. that's a report we got today, and they're based on signed contracts in the month. that's people out shopping when their purchasing power got clipped because of these higher rates, and you can see it in the regional count. sales were up everywhere in the nation, except in the west where homes are most expensive and people are therefore stretching the most. rates really hit affordability there, so going forward, chris, we're going to have to see what happens to rates and that will determine what's going to happen with prices and sales. >> diana olick, great to have you on the show. thank you for that. now to capitol hill where nbc's garrett haake is covering a critical vote to repeal war

authorizations. it's been in place for decades. garrett, i understand this just passed the senate in the last 90 minutes or so. what about the house? >> the repeals of two war authorizations of the first iraq war both passed in the senate. a fairly comfortable margin after a long debate and an amendment process, and that process may be key to their future in the house. i say that because when the bills have been on the floor in the house, we have seen enough republicans to join democrats to vote in favor of those repeals that this could be done. speaker mccarthy has made it clear, he wants to see the repeals go through a committee process in the house. go through kind of the old fashioned legislative process before they come to the floor. there may not be the majority of house republicans in favor of repealing these two aumfs. if they would have enough votes to come to the floor, the speaker himself may choose not to put them there. he hasn't been asked about this

in a couple of weeks. he has a press conference tomorrow. he'll surely be asked again. that could come down to kevin mccarthy and whether the process is enough to bring enough republicans along to get these to president biden's desk. >> that's not all that's going on. we also got the first flash report for house republicans investigating the investigators on the january 6th committee. what's in there? >> this is a five-page report from the house administration committee. they became the custodians from the select committee when the january 6th select committee ceased to exist. barry loudermilk spent five pages clearing barry loudermilk of wrong doing. he was pointed out as someone who the committee said led tours, essentially tours to insurrectionists in the days before the capitol. this report includes more information from both the capitol police and from folks who were present on those tours, basically saying they never went

into the capitol itself. they took pictures of the subway in the house. the subway in the house is cool, and they took other pictures in stairwells because they thought the tour was interesting. these didn't turn out to be insurrectionists, they never set foot in the capitol. a five-page report pushing back on one small element of the january 6th's effort and narrative, not the last we will hear from the investigative effort. >> garrett haake, thank you for that. and federal authorities just arrested a man connected to the fire bombing of an anti-abortion group in wisconsin last year with help from an unusual source. dna left them a partially eaten burrito. i want to bring in justice reporter, ryan riley, if this was the plot for csi, i'm not sure i would buy it. walk me through this from burrito to arrest. what can you tell me? >> i've covered like a thousand capital cases, and i haven't seen dna pulled off a burrito yet, in one of the cases that

involved the fbi and atf, investigating the fire bombing of a pro life or antiabortion rights group in wisconsin. essentially what happened was there was some graffiti left outside of the office building there, and later on, the individual who they later arrested was seen to have been at this other protest where similar handwriting, similar graffiti was made. essentially what investigator did during that event which took place in january, they used surveillance footage to find them going into the garage. found a truck that they believed he had been using, it turned out it belonged to someone he lived with, and he used it regularly, and then from there, they used dna they pulled off the mason bottle they used in the attack, as well as dna used on the broken glasses of that office space to try to match that. they needed a sample from this individual. they followed him around, tossed out a burrito in the bag.

the affidavit goes into detail about, you know, there are four hot sauce packets as well. everything that was left, and i that took the dna, swabbed the burrito, got dna off it, sent it into a lab, and it was a match to the dna found at the crime scene and on that mason jar. this arrest took place in boston, actually at an airport. this individual was set to leave the country on a one-way ticket. the feds were able to pick him up, just before he left. >> i mean, incredibly serious charge, but in terms of the investigation you, can't make this stuff up. ryan riley, thank you for that. appreciate it. the tensions between president biden and israel's prime minister spilling out into the public. what it means for u.s. relations with our top ally in the middle east. plus a new twist in a case that captivated the nation. why the subject of the serial podcast just got his murder conviction reinstated months after his release. and a new study raising

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than high minded words. it's about results. >> to galvanize action and translate to concrete progress to people around the world, that's how we make democracies deliver for everyone, and here's what i hope everyone gathered here and everyone watching around the world takes away from this summit. it's working. it's working. >> we're covering it from all angles from raf sanchez in tel aviv, kayla tausche at the white house. is it working? i think he would point first and foremost to ukraine, how he's rallied allies around democracy, but give us the big picture. >> reporter: yeah, i mean, that is central to biden's case that the russian invasion of ukraine was a kind of rallying cry for the democratic world showing that these authoritarian powers, most especially russia and china

are expansionist. they're dangerous. they're ready to rewrite the map of the world by force and what biden says is that nato and the west and also democratic allies in other parts of the world rose to the occasion to stand up to russia. the story is more complicated. biden is claiming that he has sort of turned the tide in favor of democracy around the world, and the trend lines are, you know, difficult to measure, and people argue a little bit about how you measure them. i think at best, it's sort of a deadlock right now, and in some major capitals that are close to the united states, you have democratic crises. of course including israel, which we have all been talking about. you saw maps of riots in the capital of brazil, following their election. there have been setbacks in indian and countries in the middle east and africa. tunisia to name one that the administration is very disappointed about. it's a mixed picture. biden is making a strong case but it's a debatable one at the

end of the day. >> raf, let's talk about israel, where you are. the announcement that he's going to pause the plan has brought down the temperature. he's under immense pressure outside of israel, and his tweet sounded defiant. what are we hearing from him today? >> reporter: well, his tweet was pretty defiant, chris, but it was positively restrained compared to the chorus of outrage we have been hearing from far right members of his government who are accusing president biden of meddling in israel's domestic politics. we heard earlier today from the national security minister, he's also the most far right member of netanyahu's government. and he said president biden needs to remember that israel is no longer a star on the u.s. flag. in other words, president biden needs to butt out of this. we heard from netanyahu today, he spoke a little bit ironically at the summit for democracy,

considering that the protesters are accusing him of damaging israel's democracy, and he talked about this decision to pause this very controversial legislation, and seek compromise. take a listen. >> how do we ensure that the judiciary remains independent, and that we balance the need to strengthen the executive and the legislative and at the same time, protect individual rights. i think that balance can be achieved. that's why i've promoted a pause that now enables both the opposition and the coalition to sit down and try to achieve a broad national consensus to achieve both goals, and i believe this is possible. >> and a senior israeli official called us in for a briefing to get the government's perspective on this. and one of the questions i put to him is how did netanyahu, this master politician, israel's longest serving prime minister and a leader who says his top

priorities are one stopping iran getting a nuclear weapon, and two, making a peace deal with saudi arabia. how did he end up in this unprecedented political crisis over something like court reform, and the answer from this official is that the supreme court is really viewed with suspicion by netanyahu's right wing base. this is important to them. they feel the justices are stopping them from carrying out things they want to do, for example, expanding israeli settlements in the occupied west bank, and netanyahu severely miscalculated the scale of opposition, not just on the streets but in israeli's business community, the high-tech sector among employees, and importantly, among reservists in israel's military. >> i want to get to that in a minute. let me ask you first, raf referenced pushback against president biden. the u.s. ambassador said an invitation for netanyahu to come to d.c. was in the works.

biden himself said not anytime soon. what do we know about the conversations they have been having or frankly how fully the administration wants to get involved in this judicial fight? >> well, it's interesting, chris, an nfc official told me moments ago the u.s. and israeli governments maintain channels of communication at nearly every single level publicly and privately. of course it was through those channels that the u.s. expressed its dismay, its view in the words of john kirby who's briefing white house reporters right now. the overall as it was pursued flew in the face of checks and balances. what president biden wants here is a negotiation and an outcome that has the most durable, sustainable results here, and has the broadest base of support in the country as possible. and for that reason, he's taking sort of an arm's length stance from that, leaving it up to the prime minister to negotiate the deal between the coalition and opposition. the israeli parliament will reconvene at the end of april.

the view from washington is there's a few weeks to get this done. they're wary of meddling further because of the accusations. >> israeli diplomatic staff walk off the job. army reservists saying they're going to refuse to train. what's your view of how tenuous the situation is, both politically and on the ground in israel right now? >> israel is in real trouble. it is a society that is fracturing, that is pulling apart. you have this incredible divide to oversimplify it between a kind of cosmopolitan liberal, you know, kind of tech white collar oriented segment of society and a much more religiously conservative traditional part of society that just sees the world in a completely different way, and they're arguing over what their country, what their democracy should look like, what its value

should be. the palestinian question has not gone away, and even if question didn't have this argument about the judicial issue, we would be in a crisis situation over the netanyahu government's policy, mostly proposed at the moment, some enacted toward the palestinians and settlements. that is not going to be resolved easily, even if they come up with a compromise on the judicial issue. there's a lot of trouble still to come, unfortunately. >> michael crowley, raf sanchez, kayla tausche. a case that 300 million people learned about downloading it via podcast. why the murder conviction was put back in place, even though the prosecutor says evidence points to other suspects. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc finally we can eat. ♪ you know you make me wanna...♪ and then we looked around and said, wait a minute, this isn't even our stroller! (laughing) you live with your parents,

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covenant school shooting. there was another vigil last night, hundreds of people turned out there in nashville. jill biden, a lifelong educator, who has a particular affinity for issues that impact schools. the first lady will be travel to go nashville for the candlelight vigil. there's been a stunning twist in a legal case that captivated the nation. a maryland appeal's court reinstated the murder conviction of anan syed. this decision coming months after he was freed after spending more than two decades behind bars on charges that he had killed his former girlfriend. i want to bring in nbc's anne thompson who spoke to the victim's family's lawyer about the case, and msnbc legal analyst, danny cevallos. what exactly did the court rule, and what does this mean for adnan's current status as a free man? >> well, first of all, chris, it

appears that sayed will not return to prison at least at this moment, because his attorneys are going to appeal the decision to the maryland supreme court. yesterday in a 2-1 ruling, the appellate court of maryland found that the rights of the victim's brother, her brother's rights to be present at that hearing where the conviction was vacated were violated because he only got one day's notice, and he lived in california, and under the maryland constitution, victims' families have a right to be present at that kind of hearing, and those appellate courts said basically he wasn't given enough notice. for lee's family, this is very good news. as you said, i spoke to the attorney yesterday about what they expect from a new hearing. >> we don't know. and we don't know because we don't know what the state has as

evidence. we want to see the evidence. the world wants to see the evidence. >> and the evidence they want to see is why the decision was made to vacate the conviction. it is a conviction that has stood for more than 20 years. sayed's attorneys say their team will be appealing the decision, and i asked lee's attorney about that, and they said that process could take another year before that issue is resolved. we still have a road to travel. >> for a lot of folks watching this, and a lot of them probably listened to serial and had their opinions about what happened here. it's pretty bad for both sides. if you are a wrongfully convicted man, you have this hanging over you. if you're the family of hae min lee, you thought at least you had some closure. this has been brought up again. where does this go from here? >> exactly back to where it was

the first time his conviction was vacated. that's exactly what's going to happen when the court comes back. this is not a doover. there's no real risk of him going back to prison. the prosecution does not want to prosecute this case. the court can't force them to. but the prosecution's right to prosecute or non-prosecute is not unfettered. it's not absolute. there are situations where that can be limited. this is one of them because the court determined that the victim's rights were such that they must have that opportunity to just be present at the hearing. even if the outcome is going to be exactly the same, and it will be exactly the same. this is just prolonging the inevitable. >> but is it an important precedent that he did this? because a lot of folks fought for a very long time to be heard, victims' families, victims' loved one, before there was an alternate conclusion, right? >> victim rights are an important thing.

when we hear about them, we think that sounds like a good idea. more victims' rights is a good thing. in the world of criminal prosecution, prosecutors will tell you that victims are no longer more than witnesses. they're not parties. they don't control the prosecution. any prosecutor will tell you a situation where a victim's family wanted to go in a different direction than the prosecution, and the prosecution wins. it's the government's case, not the people. though it's styled as the people versus, the victims' families cannot control prosecution. they wouldn't be able to do it impartially. we have to balance these out. yes, victims' families deserve rights, the right to attend hearings. but those cannot be absolute. the prosecution must retain the power to control the case the way it sees fit in the best interest of the court. >> there is no base for returning adnan by returning him to the status of a convicted

felon, and ensuring justice for hae min lee does not require injustice for adnan. he spent 23 years behind bars. how unusual is this that's happening right now? >> very unusual. victims families wouldn't fight in hard normally to be heard on an outcome they know is going to be the same no matter what. it's symbolic to them, important to them. and another victim's family, not so high profile a case, wanting the same thing. what's important about this is it sends a message not just to the maryland legislature but all state legislators that they need to be careful when they craft victims' rights. they have to articulate how far they go and what rights they confer. or else, you get a situation like this, where, yes, it may grant the victim's family some rights, but those are largely ceremonial at this point. the outcome when everyone comes back will be exactly the same. >> danny cevallos, anne thompson, thanks to both of you.

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you very much. i need to go from breaking news, pope francis has been taken to the hospital suffering from breathe difficulties and a respiratory infection. i want to go to deborah. i think he had a wednesday audience, and i didn't hear any indication of anything amiss, tell me what we know about what's going on? >> this is a great surprise to journalists covering the pope because all of us who were following the audience in st. peter's square as he gave his discourse, there was no sign of anything in particular different. i had met with him a few days ago, a few weeks ago and he seemed perfectly fine. this is a big surprise. mateo rooney issued a statement in italian said he went into the hospital for some previously scheduled tests but now there's been a subsequent statement

confirming the respiratory infection that you had just named. >> now, the first thing that comes to a lot of people's minds given where we are is covid. i assume they tested for covid? >> it specifically states in the statement that covid has been excluded as a possibility. >> talk to us a little bit about background. we all know that the pope has had some difficulties. folks, for example, who saw him at the funeral mass for pope benedict saw him in a wheelchair. he has had trouble with his knee and so on. give us an overall state of his health before he had to go in the hospital today? >> reporter: we certainly remember in 2021 that pope francis did undergo a colon surgery. he had a bad episode of diverticulitis, and they had to cut out 10 inches of his colon. that was a little bit of a

scare. the pope has done a tiring trip to africa recently, and he has been able to maintain a strong stamina. he suffered from his knee. he is alternating between the wheelchair and the cane. i know, when i went to this private audience two weeks ago, he was only using his cane. his knee, he has been managing through different therapies. and could have been seen as largely under control. obviously at his age, having some excess weight and managing sort of the need for the diverticulitis, but regardless of that, he's always kind of balancing this dynamic. we know pope francis is private about his health because he wants the attention on him and his person but about christ and the catholic church, so instead, he tends to not really respond

too openly about his health. he had an interview with associated press with the diverticulitis had to some extent returned and that was on the 24th of january. so he had alluded to someone else a return of his issue, so it's not a huge complete surprise. if you don't know the nature of everything, we know just about this respiratory infection that was mentioned in the statement. >> the pope, even when he isn't traveling, there's plenty of people who want his time and attention. you mentioned you're in an audience with him just a couple of weeks ago. has the vatican said anything about his schedule? are they cancelling for the foreseeable future? what are they saying at this point? >> technically nothing has been officially communicated in the statements that have been in italian. at this point, i would be expecting that to be the case for the coming days.

but, well, actually, i'm sorry, he will be staying in the hospital for a few days, for the appropriate therapy, for the respiratory infection. so it is foreseeable, he will not be at those upcoming events, in order to have the proper care he needs to recover. also because we're approaching holy week which is a hugely important and important to him period of time, bus he has the apostolic trip to hungary planned at the end of april. they're looking ahead as well, and he's looking ahead to the important landmark events coming up, in a way that he will be able to hopefully do that. >> thank you so much for that. i know this is just breaking. do we have claudio as well? we may go back. if we get anymore we will let

you know. the 86-year-old pope who had a general audience, and seemed to be in relatively good health as not been in the wheelchair as much lately but was walking with a cane. apparently had some respiratory problems. not covid. it's going to take some respiratory therapy at least for a couple of hospitals. he's at jemely hospital, which is a place i know well because i stood outside it when pope john paul was sick for a very long time. we'll keep you updated as we get information about the health of pope francis. what's behind the increase in self-harm and suicidal thoughts and how with we help them? you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc ♪ what will you do? will you make something better? create something new? our dell technologies advisors can provide you with

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pre-covid, meaning they may be tip of the iceberg. and i just wonder, doctor, if those numbers match up with what you have been seeing in your hospital? >> yeah, you know, unfortunately they do. they match up with what we've been seeing in our hospital but also with what pediatricians around the country have been seeing in their clinics, and i think what all of those folks who work with children and youth have been seeing in their roles as well. >> is there a common thread as to why this is happening, doctor? >> you know, i think it's really important to recognize that i do think this is really a complex issue, influenced by a lot of different things, and it has been going on for many many years. and so when we think about solutions, we have to think about all of those things. i think certainly there are serious challenges with access to care, you know, it's hard for children and youth to access

care, that are convenient and affordable and feel comfortable. there is an increase rates, probably increased by a lot of things. children are experiencing a lot of different stressors, social media, in a variety of different ways, but again, i think the important thing to recognize is that it's not just one cause, which means it's also not just one solution. >> but is there something that we can all, who love children and who have children we care about in our families watch out for? what needs to be done? what do we need to be aware of? >> yeah, and i love this question because i think it really emphasizes the point that we all play a role in supporting children. certainly there are roles health systems play, and schools play, and things that are important with policy and resources and financing. but actually recognizing that children thrive and we can

identify early when there are concerns, when they're in safe environments, when they're surrounded by caring and supportive adults. each one of us can play a role in that, thinking about where are your opportunities to interact with children in your community, and how can you create a supportive and positive environment for them? because that does make a difference, and it does change the culture in a >> absolutely. you know, there are going to be children who have concerns. we have to make sure that the resources are available for them, but we do know that when you are in a safe and supportive environment that you will thrive and that you have a better chance of weathering the challenges that come at you, and

that if you do have mental health concerns or experience a mental health condition that you are better equipped to manage that, and your family is better equipped to manage that. >> do we know, doctor, what role social media may play in all of this? >> i think we're still really learning a lot about that. i think it certainly does play a role. you know, we've all seen a lot of the negative impacts that social media can have on self-image, on really just, you know, how kids feel about themselves, but i also think the other aspect of social media is that it takes away from the time that kids can be using to build strong relationships, to be out playing outside with their friends, to, you know, be playing sports, doing all of the other things that actually do build, you know, that build strong mental health, and so i think it has an impact in both of those ways to address negative effects. and also some of those indirect effects. i think it's important to recognize there can be pro

social things. there are kids to find a supportive environment on social media. we have to be careful we're taking that into account. no doubt it has an impact. >> dr. lee bare, we appreciate you taking the time today. thank you. in virginia, family and friends just finished pay their respects to the 28-year-old. prosecutors say he was smothered to death when deputies and medical workers piled on top of him earlier this month. here's reverend al sharpton just moments ago. >> i mean, what kind of sickness would make men pile on a man that's already handcuffed and shackled. this family needs to be served with justice. >> there was also a call for mental health expansion of help for folks who have mental health issues. seven virginia deputies and three medical workers have been indicted on second-degree murder charges in otiano's case. they have not entered an official plea. with all the heaviness in

the news, we thought we would end on something salty, sweet, and something you can grab on to. right now in the u.s., sales of snacks are up about 12% in the last year, raking in more than $11 billion. and wait until you hear how our tastes are changing. here's nbc's sam brock. >> what are you eating? >> i don't even know. i just know i'm hung rirks all the -- hungry all the time. >> grabbing snacks between meals is nothing new but the snack attacks are getting stronger. >> i like peanut m&ms, regular m&ms, licorice. >> potato chips, things that are bad for me. >> a recently article from "axios" shows snacking rose steeply during the covid-19 pandemic and has continued. retail experts say this was driven at least initially by the habits of younger people.

>> 49% of consumers snack three plus snacks a day. that's significant. they don't necessarily sit down for three meals a day. they are on the go. >> reporter: some calling the trend of eating snacks instead of full meals, snackification, the most common picks for mini meals are cookies, chips and crisps, while ice cream rounds out the top three. products seeing the most success in the snack aisle are those with unique flavors, the hotter the butter, bites with gluten free or keto, and collaboration between brands. breakfast foods are curbing late night cravings, part of an around the clock revolution. a recent health survey found 3 in 4 americans snack at least once a day, up 15% from 2021. if you can't figure out what you

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