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good to be with you. i'm katy tur. it is wednesday.
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the manhattantoday. they will be in tomorrow. but they won't be working on the donald trump hush money case. at least not right now. and that is about all that we know at this moment. it is unclear when the grand jury will be meeting on donald trump again. there is a report saying the case is taking a one-month break starting next week, but our nbc news team says to treat that pronouncement with caution. at minimum, d.a. alvin bragg can still use the grand jury tomorrow, next monday or next wednesday on donald trump. as always, our sources add the agenda is fluid, and can change at any moment. we're going to get an update from someone who used to work in the d.a.'s office in just a second. there are also developments in the january 6th special counsel investigation. former vp mike pence now says he and his team are considering whether to appeal a federal judge's order to force him to testify. here he is in iowa today.
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>> when are you going to decide on any possible appeal of that decision? >> as i said, i'll be in washington, d.c. later this week, and i'll be meeting with my counsel at that time, and we'll review the judge's decision and we'll determine the best way forward. again, i have nothing to hide. at the end of the day, we'll obey the law but right now we're evaluating what the proper course is going forward. >> joining me now nbc correspondents garrett haake, and vaughn hillyard. and jeremy soland, and former u.s. attorney and nbc news legal analyst joyce vance. everybody, welcome. garrett, i'm going to start with you. you're back in d.c. today, which says a lot to me about what we can expect from the d.a.? >> reporter: i'm glad you think that. the d.a. can't operate independently from my travel schedule, but put me on team cautious here when it comes to the d.a.'s schedule.
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we have reported that they will not hear -- that the grand jury will not be in today. they will be in tomorrow, but they will be hearing another case. grand juries in new york state often have to be shared basically between prosecutors or prosecutorial teams. beyond that, i would caution against much speculation about the calendar. mondays have been trump matter grand jury days for this group, and i don't have any reason to think that next monday will be different, although, beyond that, you've got passover and good friday next week, and knowing everything that anybody who has worked or been part of a big city bureau accuracy, the holidayish week like that is probably not the time that you would expect to see big moves. again, that's only in form speculation. i think it's still possible we could see some activity from this grand jury as soon as monday, but, you know, again, it's a black box, and it's controlled by a d.a. who can
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make the call really at almost a moment's notice, present a different matter to the grand jury when they are in or ask them to be available the next day if he thinks he's ready to make a move and call for a vote. >> another curve ball, garrett. yes, next week is a holiday week. good friday and passover. the week after that, new york city school kids are off school, that throws a wrench into things, another delay. let's talk about how donald trump's team has responded to this. they're gloating. donald trump saying he's gained so much respect for this grand jury. his attorney said they're bringing repeat witnesses in, and it appears the grand jury is not having it. it is not normal to take a three-week break when you are up against a statute of limitations. we don't know if they're taking a three-week break, but that's what she's saying. >> donald trump would like to think that he could will all of this into the public conscience.
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donald trump first willed himself to arrest by suggesting that authorities were going to come and arrest him a week ago tuesday. of course that didn't happen, and then, though, over the course of the weekend, he had suggested when i was on the plane with him back from his waco, texas, rally to florida that the case was over. they weren't going to do anything. that didn't happen. and two days later, of course the grand jury convened again, and heard from another witness and this time he is suggesting here this morning that the grand jury is essentially becoming smart in their listening to the different testimony and the evidence, of course we'll have to see how all of this plays out. donald trump hopes for a lot of things, but as we are able to tell, he's out of control of the situation. he chose not to testify under oath, and so just like you and me, donald trump is also watching this and proceeding without any impact on it. >> garrett, have we gotten a better idea about what david pecker said to the grand jury or how he might have played? i know he's not a witness for donald trump, right? he's a witness -- >> right. >> talk to me about the david
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pecker aspect of it. as we know, as far as we know, the last witness that the grand jury has seen in this case. >> reporter: well, david pecker was paying for the stories of alleged affairs with donald trump before donald trump was paying for the stories of alleged affairs with donald trump. remember, pecker and the "national enquirer" bought the story of karen mcdougal, a playboy model who said she had an affair with trump a few weeks before the stormy daniels matter percolated. it was pecker who introduced. if you want to clarify the time line or if you want to try to get to the bottom of when donald trump might have known that someone was doing this on his behalf, pecker would be one of the few people other than michael cohen who might know the answer to that, and might not have the same perceived credibility problems that cohen has given his own legal history and sort of all the other things he has said in all the other
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places about the specifics of this case. >> jeremy, i want to ask you about cohen, but i first want to ask you about the statute of limitations that trump's attorney has brought up. the grand jury was seated in january. it's a six-month grand jury, there's time for that. in terms of the statute of limitations for this case, can you explain where we are in that statute? i know it's a five-year statute that's happened in 2016. where does this leave us? we're past five years. but there's an exception. >> certainly. we have a two-year statute on the misdemeanor. assuming this indictment, it's five years. the question that will be litigated, when the former president was in washington, did that stop the clock from ticking? so during that extended period of time, was that countable towards the statute of limitations or not, and i'm sure and confident that if he was indicted, that defense team is going to say, i'm sorry, d.a.
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bragg, you're out of the box. it's too late. this is unprecedented, not something we should expect. he was outside new york for an extended period of time, other than coming back and forth a few times, over the course of this presidency, so therefore one could argue all of that period would halt this. >> how far can that appeal go in theory? >> well, within reason, i want to say perpetuity, that's certainly not the case. >> all the way to the supreme court? >> i'm sorry, misunderstood, so in new york, what you would do is you could go to the first apartment and then ultimately to the court of appeals, which we can call the new york's version of the supreme court to ascertain whether or not this complies with the criminal procedure code. >> all right. let me ask you about where you think this case currently is and what you think of garrett and my theory about next week being a holiday week, the week after that being a week where kid are off. where do you think -- what is the timing of this case? >> so all of us are speculating, and the president flies off
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disarray. he flies off controlling the narrative, and he's trying to do that by setting his milestones that may never even have been considered. to say this is a delay, it seems from the outside it's concerning but as you noted before, we have good friday, we have passover, we have school break. this is something that may not be atypical. and was considered at the time the grand jury started. the bigger question is when you have come this far in the proceeding, meaning the president had an opportunity to testify. he had the opportunity to call witnesses. there appears to be rebuttal witnesses, you would expect that it's concluding, but expectations we don't know what they are deciding internally. what's that next step? are we confident with the law, are we confident with the evidence? what's the feedback from the grand jury? >> after getting called back in, new york magazine was positing that the prosecution might have a hard time with cohen because of how public he's been. he has a lot of interviews, his podcast, he tweets.
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do you think that could be a problem for the d.a.? >> absolutely. you want to control your witnesses, whether cooperators or not. someone like michael cohen who has baggage, but baggage we would expect if he's involved in a scheme, if that's true, you would expect the person with the most information or knowledge would have that type of bag age. the more he speaks, and the more problem that we have as a prosecutor. so they want to certainly clamp him down. mr. trump's defense will go at him very very hard. no doubt they'll use whatever he said before against him. let us now talk about the special counsel case. there's two investigations in the special counsel. the one regarding january 6th had a development yesterday, mike pence being ordered to testify by a judge. mike pence today in multiple interviews and in iowa saying his team is looking it over. do we have any idea, i know you're in touch with them, about when he's going to make a
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decision. >> he's going to washington, d.c. in the next day or two, going to meet with the legal counsel to converse about this. he had previously said he was going to take this all the way to the supreme court. he does have narrow protections, according to this judge. at the same time, if he goes before the grand jury, the only situation in which he would be able to plead the fifth would be to protect himself from self-incrimination. we have no reason to believe that mike pence did any wrong doing in the leadup to january 6th here. so what this would suggest is that we are going to see mike pence ultimately go before the grand jury and, you know, much like in the case of these other aides, mark meadows and others who the federal judge ruled that they must also go before is likely that the special counsel is about to get a trove of testimony because we already saw what the department of justice has been willing to do when they went and prosecuted steve bannon for contempt of court, and they sentenced him to four months in federal prison here. the special counsel is clearly about to have several key figures go before them, and it's a matter of now, the time line
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of when mike pence is going to be there in washington, d.c. >> if he does testify, can he plead the fifth? >> well, if he's afraid that any of his testimony might be incriminating, he can, you know, there's been no indication so far that pence has a personal issue where he believes he might have committed crimes here. i suppose we could speculate and something like that could be on the table. this looks a lot more like it's a political opposition to testifying than it is a legal one, given his situation in the upcoming election, but katy, something that's important for us to focus on here. this order that the judge has issued regarding pence's testimony, it's under seal because this is a grand jury proceeding. it's not been made public. so we don't know precisely what the order says. we have heard some reporting that suggests that donald trump's objection to pence testifying on executive privilege grounds, that that's been thrown out the window,
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that's no longer. and this is all about protection from testimony for the period of time where pence was acting as the president of the senate on january 6th. it means that both sides could win here. pence might not have to testify about his time in that senate president chair. he'd still have to talk about his conversations with trump leading up to january 6th. and that could be bad news not just for the former president, but also for the people involved in perpetrating the big lie, planning events on january 6th. i think vaughn is dead on the money when he says this is a treasure-trove of information for the source that was there. . >> and the source has written a book about it. what else is there to say, there could be a lot more, that's what i mean. joyce and jeremy, thank you for your legal analysis, appreciate it. vaughn and garrett, thank you for your reporting. breaking news out of italy, pope francis is in the hospital for a respiratory infection, according to the vatican.
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he's expected to remain hospitalized for at least a few days. joining me now from rome is nbc news correspondent claudio la von ya. what's the latest about his health? >> reporter: a half hour ago, with an update on the condition of the pope. the statement says pope francis has complained of some breathing difficulties in the past few days. today he was taken to the gemelli hospital, where popes are taken when they have health problems to undergo some tests. some of those tests, the statement continues, the outcome of those tests have highlighted a respiratory infection that is not related to covid-19, but still, the pope will have to remain in hospital for a few days to undergo medical therapy. the statement ends with pope francis, reading to you, he's touched by the messages received and expresses his gratitude for
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the closeness and prayers, and i'm sure, katy, there will be many coming from all over the world for a speedy recovery. >> how has his health been of late? there were some who said he didn't look as well as normal during the funeral for pope benedict? >> reporter: well, we do know that he has had undergone colon surgery three years ago that has also stopped him in his tracks. he has put on a lot of weight because of the fact that he can't walk that much. but this respiratory problem is certainly new, at least to us. so let's hope that it's not too serious. >> thank you very much. and coming up, what republicans are saying congress can do about gun violence and
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what legislation one democratic lawmaker is now trying to bring to the house floor. we've got an exclusive with michigan rep, elissa slotkin. fox's brain knew some of its election claims were fake news, and now there are documents to prove it. what we're learning about the dominion suit and what it means for fox. the prime minister versus the president, the sharp words bb and biden have for each other. we're back in 60 seconds. have h other. we're back in 60 seconds 5g network in america? (vo) when it comes to your business, not all bars are created equal. so switch to verizon business unlimited today. when our daughter and her kids moved in with us... our bargain detergent couldn't keep up. turns out it's mostly water. so, we switched back to tide. one wash, stains are gone. [daughter] slurping don't pay for water. pay for clean. it's got to be tide. you need to deliver new apps fast using the services you want
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it's premature. >> we pass laws, and then they really have no effect. you got to deal with what's at the heart of this, it's evil. some people would say demon possession. >> the mental health crisis we have in this country, needs to be the real conversation we're having right now. >> they talk about taking guns away from law-abiding citizens. >> republican lawmakers say they aren't ready to talk about gun legislation or that there's no room for it at all after three kids and three teachers were killed at a school in tennessee on monday. the three 9-year-old victims now bring the total number of kids killed by guns in this country this year to 413. that's according to the gun violence archives, and again, it's only march. joining me now, our nbc news white house correspondent, mike memoli, and john bresnahan. i heard a new set of terms
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there, fighting evil, evil itself. is that the -- has that replaced thoughts and prayers? is that the new line from republicans, house lawmakers at least? >> i haven't heard the evil one. i have heard the just, you know, the it's too early to talk about it. it's premature, you know, we're still trying to figure out what happened. that is a pretty standard line after any mass shooting, and then the other one is, you know, majority leader steve scalise said, you know, the first thing talked about is taking guns away from law-abiding gun owners. i mean, there is not going to be any gun reform legislation or gun control legislation in this congress. not with a republican house, speaker mccarthy, kevin mccarthy has made that clear. but, you know, to, you know, listen to some of those
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comments, you know, in the wake of the shooting is swrus, it's -- just, it's always stunning to hear it. when you're standing there, and you see it afterwards, it's still stunning to hear. >> i guess the way some of the answers came out, no, i don't think there's any room, no feeling, no connection. i don't know what's in that person's head. the feeling that comes from the words doesn't seem to connect to the fact that three kids just died. let me ask you about what is at the root of it, though. for a long time, people will just say it's the nra, bought by the nra, bought by the gun lobby. this is why they're in congress. didn't want to lose their power, didn't want to lose their money. is it the voters, and if it's the voters, considering there's so many voters across the country that support tougher gun measures, is it heavily gerrymandered districts full of single issue voters, that's really the problem. >> that's part of it. it's not the nra as much. the nra is undergoing tremendous internal problems over the last
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five, seven years. real crises in leadership, and crises in fundraising. this is the republican party right now. that's why it was so surprising that last year congress passed a narrow gun control bill to deal with red flag warnings. it was shocking actually. it's the first time in 30 years of covering congress. >> i remember you being shocked. >> i'm still shocked about it. it's still amazing to me that it actually happened. again, those republicans were in the minority then. they were democratic run house and senate. and we had the horrific shooting in uvalde, with all of those poor children were murdered and i think that spurred senator john cornyn in texas to do something. you know what, after cornyn did that, he was censured by the republican party in texas. we're talking about it's gerrymandered districts in the
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house, and it's single issue voters, and this is where the republican party is. the republican party doesn't need the nra to put out the gun line on gun control because that's where the party is. >> let me play elissa slotkin. our colleague julie tsirkin sat down with her. here's what she says about the current state of congress. >> they spent their last week banning books and figuring out ways communities can ban books, and a book never shot anyone in the face. they have lost the plot. they are focusing on issues that are dog whistles, cultural issues to drum up political enthusiasm instead of focusing on protecting our children, and history will not reflect well on them and their party right now. >> i think it's safe to say that her legislation will not be brought to the floor. democrats don't control the house of representatives. not the house of republicans,
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excuse me. mike memoli. the president said there's nothing more he can do, he has no more power left. explain what he meant by that? >> i think what he's acknowledging which is the fact that i was just with him outside of los angeles, monterey park, the site of another mass shooting that took place this year, where he signed a pretty far reaching executive order, maximizing, really building upon the safer communities act, which passed of course in congress last year. one of the pieces of that that didn't get a lot of attention but i think could be an advocates on the gun safety side, could be very significant, is he asked the attorney general to use the legislation to redefine what it means to be engaged in the business of selling firearms, and why that's significant is because that is the trigger, so to speak, for having to require a background check, and it could in the eyes of gun safety advocates, and white house officials said they agree with the analysis, potentially lead to closing the gun show loophole.
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ten years ago, we were covering the mansion toomey discussion on capitol hill which followed the sandy hook shooting. that was the center piece of the failedthe failed legislative effort to close the gun show loophole to expand background checks, and there is every possibility that even though the president may not sign new executive orders, he could based on what the attorney general comes back with announce effectively a loophole. that would go some of the way. this requires legislation, and that's part of what the president is trying to do here, speaking to the elissa slotkins of the world. you need to run on this. they think it's a winning political issue, and the power of the gun safety groups is rivaling the nra, and they can get more democrats in congress, and potentially enact more legislation. >> my question right now and we don't have a good answer to this is what happens to the district where this shooting happened? it's a red district. andy ogles represents it. do they change their minds about guns? andy ogles posed for a christmas
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card with his family carrying assault style rifles. maybe they don't. i wonder, does this make them rethink their position and who they vote for. we will see on that. the debt ceiling, what's the status, what's kevin mccarthy saying about it right now? >> we had a report this morning that there has been no contact between speaker mccarthy and the president on this. we have mccarthy and biden exchanged public letters yesterday, bashing each other. biden is criticizing house republicans because they haven't put out a budget, they haven't talked about what they want to cut from the government and in terms of spending, in order to provide a frame work for raising the debt segment. we're nowhere. congress is about to leave tomorrow for a two-week spring recess, won't be back until april 17th. the first hundred days, nothing has happened on the debt limit, and the deadline is somewhere, june, july, august, your guess is as good as mine.
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treasury secretary yellen hasn't said yet. we're nowhere on this. mccarthy is complaining that he hasn't heard from biden. biden is complaining he hasn't heard from mccarthy. our government is functioning very well right now. >> if we run out of money, scream it to yellen, the ceo and the fed, i'll say it sometime during the summer. meeting with taiwan's president next week in the united states. plus, will tucker carlson, sean hannity, and laura ingraham have to testify in the dominion trial. the latest from the court filings. from the court filings. a little easier. (moo) mabel says for you, it's more like 5:15. man: mom, really? (woman 1) i just switched to verizon business unlimited. it's just right for my little business. it's more like 5:15. unlimited premium data. unlimited hotspot data. (woman 2) you know it's from the most reliable 5g network in america? (vo) when it comes to your business, not all bars are created equal. so switch to verizon business unlimited today.
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the brain room, that's what they call it at fox news told the network its claims about dominion voting systems rigging the presidential election were false. but fox news put them on the air anyway. according to newly released evidence made public in dominion's defamation lawsuit against fox news. joining me is nbc news digital senior politics editor, amanda terkel and "washington post" senior political reporter aaron blake. explain what these documents tell us about the brain room. >> sure, so fox has this sort of in-house fact checking and research unit. and you have top fox executives admitting in their testimony in this dominion lawsuit that when they're not sure of something,
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when they want to check the veracity of something, they go to the brain room, and if the brain room says it's wrong, it shouldn't go on air. you have david clark, a top fox executive saying if the brain room says it's wrong, it shouldn't go on air, and yet, dominion shows that fox news asked the brain room to check, you know, was there widespread fraud in the 2020 election, did dominion switch votes against donald trump, did it have ties to pelosi, the clinton global initiative, the feinsteins, and they found in every case the answer was no, these claims were false, and yet fox, as we know, ran with them on air in the days after the election with its hosts asserting these things and having guests on who also pushed the false claims. >> you're seeing right now part of the court documents, including e-mails from within fox news, and one where the executive you mentioned, david clark said false claims should not have gone on air. that's the testimony, excuse me, from david clark.
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it's pretty -- i mean, amanda, if dominion was looking for something akin to a slam dunk, i mean, am i wrong to say this kind of feels like it? i'm not a lawyer, but this seems pretty damming. >> i think fox news also knows how damning it was. and they redacted this. these slides are part of a presentation that dominion showed at a pre-trial hearing. that information was redacted at the request of fox news, dominion said it needed to be released and public, and the judge agreed it needed to be released and public. that's why today we're seeing all of this, and we're seeing what fox news wanted to keep secret, and we're seeing how damaging it was. >> aaron, let's talk about the other side of this, which is what dominion wants from its trial. they want to see a lot of big name hosts testify, tucker carlson, laura ingraham, rupert murdoch, what is fox saying
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about that? >> what's interesting about this is fox seems to be signing off on some of these very high profile hosts appearing on the trial at the stand, tucker carlson, maria, some of the higher ranking executives like jay wallace, and suzanne scott who were significant players in this. maybe they recognize that's inevitable, they're signing off on it early to make sure it looks like they're cooperating with the trial. it's worth noting what happened in the courtroom was that there was a little bit of a dust up over whether rupert murdoch would have to take the stand himself. that's one that fox doesn't seem to be willing to sign off on. the judge seemed to take a position on that that rupert murdoch is able to travel the country and should be able to testify in this trial. fox news has said that it's not because he's not able to travel but because he already gave a very lengthy deposition in this case. so certainly this is going to be some must-see tv. a case which is going to bring,
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apparently, if it goes to trial. there could be a summary judgment, a case that brings high profile people in the courtroom. >> are cameras allowed in the courtroom, is this going to happen? amanda, you're saying no. a federal case, so no. >> no cameras are allowed in the courtroom, as of now. no cameras allowed in the courtroom. unfortunately, we'll hear about it, but won't get to see it. >> listen when we're talking about what fox news is, whether you can call it fox news, there's been some argument about that, especially after all of these regulations, the society of professional journalists saying it's a news organization that spreads lies, news reporting or opinion, it's clearly breached the most sacred of principles, no responsible journalist can accept or excuse this behavior. it is unconscionable, and an insult to the tens of thousands of american journalists, many at fox, including many at fox who understand their obligation to serve the public interest, not the bottom line.
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aaron, i don't know if this is a question to you, but i wonder if that sort of statement, and these sort of revelations change anything at fox news? so far they have not. >> i think that's a really important question here. there is a very important legal question here when it comes to whether fox news' conduct rises to the level of defamation. there are legal thresholds that need to be cleared for that. i think what dominion has accomplished already is by casting a spotlight on what were some very serious failures of journalism, to the extent, it may not be the case that several people were given the brain room information but the fact that the information was circulating internally, the fact that so many hosts and executives seemed to understand that these allegations were so baseless and said so internally, and the claims were still aired rather uncritically. just from a journalistic standpoint, that's a setback for
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fox news to have all of this revealed in front of the american people, and the fact that the trial got to this point, there hasn't been a settlement. the judge hasn't tossed the case out, certainly created reputational harm for fox news, regardless of what the legal outcome is here. >> this is not to say that journalists aren't fallible. journalists make mistakes all the time. i have made mistakes but it's apologizing for the mistakes and correcting the record as soon as it's clear that those were mistakes. it does not appear that happened at fox news. amanda and aaron, thank you, guys, very much. and a 21-year-old rookie pilot lost part of her landing gear midair. it was only her third solo flight. we have been looking for some good news and we need it. we're going to show you what happened when the tower alerted her. but first, bb versus biden, what the prime minister and president are saying to each other in public statements and
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opponents say the very soul of israel's democracy, democracy itself is still very much at stake. joining me from tel aviv is nbc news foreign correspondent raf sanchez. i hear it is calmer there today, raf? >> reporter: it is calmer here in the sense that there aren't protesters on the streets, but i can tell you that president biden's comments yesterday made to reporters caused an absolute political fire storm in this country. netanyahu releasing a statement at 1:00 a.m. this morning saying that israel's a sovereign country, it's going to make its own decisions, and it will not bow to pressure from abroad, even from friend, which is sort of diplomatic speak for stay out of israel's domestic political issues, president biden, some of the far right cabinet members were much less diplomatic. the national security minister, the most extreme member of the israeli government said president biden needs to remember israel is no longer a star on the u.s. flag.
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now, despite these political tensions, netanyahu did speak earlier today at the biden administration summit for democracy, which as you pointed out is a little bit ironic, given that the u.s. has been repeatedly expressing its concern that netanyahu's plan to weaken israel's supreme court would damage israeli democracy, the u.s. israel relationship as we're constantly told by administration officials is based on shared values, including democracy, how big of a crisis is this? >> a senior israeli official called us in today togive their perspective on this. if you look at the history compared to other riffs in the relationship, including not that long ago, the obama administration's absolute fury with netanyahu when he went to congress to publicly oppose president obama's nuclear deal with iran, that this is not that big a deal. but the tensions are there, and what's new about this is netanyahu has the far right
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members of his government, and the biden administration is basically refusing to speak to a lot of senior israeli officials, including the finance minister who went to washington a few weeks ago, and couldn't get a single meeting. >> this is the most extreme government in israel's history, far right in israel's history. israel is saying we're a sovereign country but they rely on american aid. correct me if i'm wrong on that. we rely on israel for our own intelligence work in that region of the world, so this relationship even with those tense words is beneficial for both countries? >> reporter: yeah, that's the argument both sides make, and despite this sort of political back and forth, the cia is talking to, the militaries are speaking closely. it's a relationship that goes both ways. >> raf sanchez, thank you very much. and the president of taiwan is expected to meet with house speaker kevin mccarthy next week in los angeles. president sai-ing wen is
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strengthening international ties. any meeting with mccarthy will be considered a provocation. joining me now once again is nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake, our jack of all trades today. what's mccarthy going to do? is he going through with the plan to meet the president of taiwan? >> reporter: neither mccarthy or his office have said for sure on the record whether they'll have this meeting. mccarthy and house republicans ran on a platform of being tougher on china than democrats had been. so, you know, they've stood up this competition subcommittee that's focused exclusively on china. they have tried to make the threat of china, particularly the threat of china invading taiwan, central to their messaging when it comes to foreign policy. i think it's a reasonable assumption that the speaker would try to meet with the president of taiwan, given the opportunity of having her in his home state.
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but it's not something they've confirmed so far. some of that may be for security reasons, as well as logistical reasons, as for the threatened response or possible response from mainland china's government on this issue. >> garrett haake, thank you very much. and coming up, we could all use a bit of good news. and we have some for you. a 21-year-old on what was only her third solo flight loses her landing gear. this story this morning, made me cry tears of happiness. that's how emotional it is. we're going to show you what happened and let you listen to it in just a moment. don't go anywhere. it in just a moment. don't go anywhere. it's simple. anything else i can help you with? like what? visionworks. see the difference. i'm the sizzle in this promposal. and while romeo over here is trying to look cool, things are about to heat up. darn it, kyle! and if you don't have the right home insurance coverage, you could end up paying for this yourself. so get allstate. we really don't want people to think of feeding food
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a 21-year-old was on her third solo flight when she lost part of her landing gear. and she didn't even know it at first. >> reporter: this story is incredible. making just her third solo flight. 21-year-old pilot said everything seemed fine on takeoff but from the ground things were looking extremely dicey. fortunately a veteran pilot on the ground saw a critical piece of her landing gear fell off right after she took off and immediately jumped in to help. >> beautiful. >> reporter: a dramatic landing thanks to the skill and nerve of rookie pilot helped through a harrowing experience by a total stranger. >> this is the first time we've seen each other.
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>> this is the first time you guys have seen each other, ever in. >> yes. >> yes. >> reporter: the 21-year-old pilot said everything felt fine when she took off last friday from pontiac, michigan, in a nearby aircraft, a veteran pilot realized something was off. literally. >> just noticed the nose wheel, the nose tire, everything fall to the ground and just bounced down the runway. >> reporter: the control tower explaining the situation to taylor saying she was going to have to land her plane without a front tire. >> you lost your front nose gear tire. >> copy. >> tire front wheel assembly is on the runway. >> roger that. should i remain in the pattern? >> it was definitely the scariest moment i've had probably in my life. >> reporter: but yates happens to be the former director of aviation at spacex. he's also a father and heard
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anxiety in taylor's voice. yates and the flight controller told taylor to circle the field until she was ready to land. >> delta, charlie, what's your name. >> my name is taylor. >> i didn't respond on the radio because i just -- i couldn't even talk. >> taylor, this is chris. my daughter's name is taylor and i taught her to fly. we're going to be just fine. >> thank you very much. >> you can really tell how my voice went from frantic, what am i going to do to okay, you know, i can do this and that was 100% all thanks to him. >> reporter: with chris' encouragement taylor's confidence grew. >> going to be a career pilot. >> i was planning on. >> this is a good start. this is a good start to your legacy. >> reporter: then came the critical moment. >> nice job. the nose is going to come down. you're okay. you're okay. you're okay. talk to me, kid.
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>> i'm all good. >> i'm proud of you. >> as soon as he said that, the waterworks came. >> you could hear my voice change at the end there, i was crying, too. >> reporter: an emotional ending for both pilots who formed a lasting bond in the air. we asked taylor if she's changed her mind about this whole flying business. she laughed, she said when on the ground she was more sure than ever she wants to continue. back to you. >> a check on the maintenance. check on your landing gear. the moment he says my daughter name's taylor, i taught her to fly. i needed a bit of good news especially this week.
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