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the pain becomes a part of you everybody, to my house, now. his entire family, gone. i said what are you talkin about, what do you saying? >> and i really hear it was surreal >> his fellow cops suspected him. i did not do this, i did not d this >> she was upset she felt like history wa repeating itself >> he wants to have women an his wife was in his way. >> we are police wrong >> it's like the twilight zone lies become truth and the trut becomes lies >> maybe the real killer was still out there. >> you have lied to the police about this case? >> yes, sir. >> so devastating. >> we probably knew that thi was the key to solving this. 13 years, 13 years

such an awful crime. the wife the little boy and girl. shot at point blank range. >> i was just dumbfounded, shocked at what i saw. >> how to comprehend >> what do you talking about >> what do you saying? >> the husband had an alibi. for ten minutes. >> he could have done anything he did >> 13 years, three trials, repeals, reversals and changin stories. the big picture here, charles, is that for a lot of people, i sounds like a crime. >> there is a lot of thing about this case that doesn't make sense

>> it has been a long windin pursuit of justice, as one family sees it >> it gets more and more wild. >> i adopted the saying, tha when you enter into th courtroom, lies become truth and the truth becomes lies >> but there is another side another family one which sees a terribl miscarriage of justice >> i wonder if everybody got three trials, how many guilt people would be out walking th streets? >> mommy, i have a present for you. >> but there is on indisputable truth ken, gilles and bradley wher nothing less than innocenc lost that evening. >> when do you miss them the most >> every day, and whoever said

that time heals has never lost a child. i can tell you that time doesn't heal anything. the pain becomes a part of you >> time. turn the clock back to the yea 2000, september 28th to be precise. the place? a recreation center in georgetown, southern indiana a basketball game was underway with usual thursday night guys >> you guys were just gettin underway >> glory days. >> this manager at a waterproofing business was a regular. >> this was religion, right? >> we play a little basketball in indiana >> that night, after the gam wrapped up, david headed straight home. he and his wife came head to children a quiet seven year old, an jill, a spitfire two years younger. usually they would help hi with the kids in the evening but on this night he was late. and he knew came wouldn't be happy about that >> they had their homework dow before they went to bed, and i

thought, she's going to be upset when i get home, because i'm not there to help. >> he click the garage doo open, a nightmare awaited. >> the garage door raised up just above my truck. that's when i saw kim. >> she was down on the garag floor? >> yes, actually, the firs thought i had was jill laying there i didn't realize it was ki until i ran out of into th garage, out of my truck. and i saw was kim. >> it's too much to absorb, ho do you take it in? >> it's indescribable what was going through my mind. i can not put it in towards. >> can we still, bent slightly at the waist, along pool o blood running through her head the doors to her bronco were open >> when you look in the vehicle? >> i don't remember how long i was. but after checking on kim, being assured in my mind tha

she was gone, i just suddenl thought about the kids where are the kids and my first instinct was to look into the bronco and i got up on the passenge seat and i could see more into the back, and that's when i sa brett and jill >> jill, still buckled in, which slumped over there was blood in her hair. next to her, brad seemed to be clambering over the seat >> was it apparent even in you shock that this was a gunsho event? >> i do not know i did not know how they ha died so you're in over the consul >> on top of the consul, that' how i grabbed brett. >> - i thought maybe he would have chance >> david had been an indiana state trooper for almost 1 years. that night in the garage, davi says, his police trainin kicked in. >> it seemed to him that his daughter jill was dead but there was even a whisper o

a chance for his son brad, h knew he had to get him out o the bronco and give him cpr. i picked him up, pulled him to me, and turned around and go back in the same way i went in >> put him down on the garag floor and started working on him? >> exactly >> were you getting any signs? >> i just remember looking a his face and like with jill, his eyes there was no moisture. they were half shut. it was pretty obvious. obvious that he was gone >> and this is all happened in what's, 45 seconds >> yes, probably, maybe minute >> kneeling on the blood garage floor, amidst the bodie of his family, david knew he had to get help. he called the indiana stat police, where he used to work.

david camm's 13 year journey into was only minutes old. coming up, he was beating on the door saying, nelson nelson somebody's killed my family, they're all dead, they're al dead >> your family dead, murdered. how do you even begin to absor that >> all these things, spinnin around inside my head. it was surreal am i really hear it's surreal >> we went down to the ground, laid on his back, rollin around and says why, why didn't i hav to go? why didn't i stay with them?

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only from xfinity. the future starts now. one night to find an unimaginable crime his wife and boy were murdered after trying unsuccessfully to revive his son, david ra across the street to our relatives. >> i heard the banging on th door >> david's uncle nelson wa there.

>> david was beating on th door and saying nelson, nelson come quick, someone killed m family they're all dead >> nelson dropped everything t brush over to david's garage >> i was dumbfounded, i wa shocked when i saw >> david yelled at him to chec on jill, his daughter in the bronco and nelson said that he let is very carefully to the vehicle. like david, he was a forme state trooper, and you're th crime scenes had to be preserved. >> i looked in the backseat an that's when i saw little jil back there i reached back and i touched her arm, her arm or shoulder and i said jill, jill! >> you knew she was gone >> i knew she was gone and i said dave, i think they're all gone, buddy, they're all gone >> david lost. >> he went down to the groun he was rolling on his back rolling around why did they have to go? why did they have to go ahead to stay with him. >> uncle nelson managed to get a bit away from the garage >> they've was trying his best to go back in, and i would not let him go back in >> so you really are the

officer securing the scene >> i knew it had to be done. because it was a horrific crim scene and i wanted to make sur that i didn't do anything to hamper it. >> david says that he was wa beyond understanding anythin that night but the questions wouldn't stop >> just all these things spinning around inside my head is this real am i really here did i really just find camm. it was surreal >> it was the end of everythin that david and kim had built together >> they had met in the lat 1980s. they were introduced by marcie mcleod marcy had been best friend with can since elementar school >> she was very quiet for th people who didn't know her very funny, very loyal, very sweet. >> david and kim married i 1989 they threw a big fun party the got on with their lives. kim in corporate accounting an david as an indiana stat trooper, a career that kim had encouraged him to pursue here he is in a uniform bein interviewed in the 1990s about

road safety during the holidays the big hat seemed tailor made for david camm he was soon a member of th call a swat team >> i love those guys, we'r talking about guys that yo would literally die for. >> but overtime, after the kid were, born david wanted to spend more time with his family so in may 2000, he went to wor as a manager in his uncle sams business and left the banded brothers >> you want to talk more of life, and yet i can see ho much you liked - being in law enforcement >> i just felt like it was definitely - i was at a point in my lif that i need to make that chang and i wanted to make tha change and i presumed that i woul remain close with these guys that they would always be my friends and that they woul always have my back, wheneve needed them.

>> by september 2000, the th webcams seem to have a picture perfect life kim was a totally engaged. mother, sam lockhart saw the family all-time >> great, mom great mom she bought those kids. everywhere the kids were lik my grandkids >> jill! jill >> little jill >> tell me about her >> she was a character she really was just a funny little girl if she didn't have you attention, she would get it. she was a very - i think she would've been very athletic, she was gifted i that way >> and brad was the swimmer? >> he was great at it. being a father i thought, this kid is good. >> they were gatherings with

david sprawling extended family, the lockharts, the descendants of nine brothers and sisters o david's brothers side. the we lock were so entrenched in this area, that they had road named after it. lockart. >> there could've been a bette place for us to be when all of this terrible stuff happened >> the awful news raised through two families tha night. david sister julie was getting ready to go to bed when th phone rang >> i said what what are you talking about but are you saying >> julie went straight to he parents house. >> mom had all the pictures of brad and jill that she could gather up and was holding them and just sitting on the floo and rocking and saying, my babies, my babies, they've killed my babies somebody killed my babies. >> david sent his uncles t tell kim's parents, janice, an frank ran. >> when they rang the doorbell

what could this be >> well it can't be good so, when i go out and i opened the door and i see him standin out there and i think, my mind went blank >> i they asked me to come out there are so i go out, there and some says we've got some bad news rad and -- kim, brad and jill have been shot i slip down in a sitting position and i cried, i ca believe it >> on lockhart road, the sound of sirens followed by flashing lights a homicide investigation was beginning. and david's friends and former colleagues at the end indian state police would be on the front line >> coming up - >> something strange at th crime scene. kim's shoes placed neatly on top of the bronco. what could that mean with when dateline continues nexgard is the flea and tick protection that's #1 with vets. your vet trusts it for her patients... ...and her own dog. plus, its delicious beef flavor is #1 with dogs. use with caution in dogs with a history of seizures or neurologic disorders.

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gunned down in the garage of a family home in a quiet indiana county the two kids never made it out of the back seat of the bronco who murdered them? the answer to that questio would be the responsibility of the investigators. the indiana state police and the floyd county prosecutor, stan he got the call at ten or 10:3 that night >> did someone on the phon tell you it's bad? >> it was horrible >> faith knew immediately that the case would be big.

he got to the crime scen immediately. the first thing he noticed was the ribbon of blood running ou of the garage, right down th driveway i almost stepped in it myself. >> he could see the wife and mother lying by the open passenger door her pants removed. it had the signature of a se crime, children killed because they were witnesses. seven year old brett was on hi back, a gray sweatshirt lyin by him an article of clothing tha would become hugely importan in time. >> the boy was laying there, and his hands were out and of course i didn't see the little girl. they told me that she was stil in the truck >> the state police, indiana's top investigative force, had already done its work. the crime scene investigated the bronco, took measurement

and took pictures. stan faith studied the scene >> was it too soon for you t take all that in >> no, the thing that struck m the most was how clean the garage was you just don't expect that >> some of the troopers in the garage had been fellow officer with the husband david >> there were a couple that didn't recognize, but for th most part, it was people that knew >> the trooper who would becom the lead investigator was davi 's childhood friend. >> they had the talk right there. >> dave, you know you have t clear you first. >> he said just do it. >> he knew the score about spouses, as a former cop >> they always look at the spouse >> sure, everyone's a suspect, in the beginning you don't know >> but in his case, davi thought, it was a by the boo formality. he was confident his friends would do all they could to fin the killer >> these were your brothers, these guys >> right >> you had ridden with them. >> you had done a lot of tough stuff with them. >> they'd been to my house, we had eaten together, we kne each other's families. >> i'm here at the indiana

state police post. >> in this audiotape of hi first interview that night, yo can hear the interviewer handling him with kid gloves out of respect >> we're gonna try and find ou what happened here so that w can bring the person to justic as best we can the question or walk david through his day and his wife as far as david knew, sh followed her usual bus routine. working and then shepherding the kids around after school returning home at about 7:30 pm once the shooter, waiting fo her in the garage, or did he killer follow her in the investigators asked davi if anyone had been stalking he following her. >> and they wanted to know i the husband could help the understand an oddity about the crime scene. why were kim's shoes neatl placed on top of the roof of the bronco as the investigators wrapped up, and made sure david got some fresh clothing, they wer sending his blood speckled

sneakers out for testing the next day that cam' neighbors were absolutel stunned at the crime of this magnitude could happen in thei neighborhood >> it makes no sense, there' never been any trouble out here >> as the hunt for the kille continued, investigators asked neighbors if they had seen o heard anything suspicious. >> right now this is very, ver much an open investigation >> three days after, david cam

faced the camera >> i want my family to be back i want my babies to be back. and he begged the killer t come forward >> you can't live with the guilt. what you did was such irrational, lewd, ridiculous satanic thing. you cannot, you cannot liv with that guilt. >> unrest in the case was only hours away >> coming up - >> i'm a mess, i'm o medication, and having to bu burial plots, having to bu caskets, i have all this stuff going on >> a husband and father in mourning about to face the second biggest surprise of his life

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murders, two families, the lockharts, aunts, uncles nephews and nieces were -- >> we lost three wonderful people that we loved, and we don't have them with us today. >> kim, bradley, jill, jus like that, gone. >> gone. >> david was all but shuttin down >> i'm a mess, i'm o medication, i'm having to bu caskets, i'm having to buy burial plots we have all the stuff going on >> three days after the murder an indiana state police called him in for a second interview. he sat down with two cops he knew well. he'd been sharing coffee i cases with them for years. this time the tone of th interview had changed. because now the investigator did have a working theory of the murders. and the evidence they were gathering pointed to none othe than david camm as the killer. there one time fellow troope and law enforcement brother wa now quite possibly determine

a monster who murdered his family they have the timeline, th murders they took place, the believe, between 9:15 and 9:30 that night, after davi returned home. the police canvas had turned u a neighbor who heard noises, and shots fired. david saw where this was going and pushed back. the investigators account ha david camm square in the crosshairs he came home from basketball and killed his family. they told david about physical evidence they collected.

specks of blood, barely visibl to the naked eye, on the botto of the t-shirt he wore a crime scene expert already told him the husband and fathe did it blood spatter, the case agains david camm

but the cops had ful confidence in their man. the noose was tightening eve as david protested and there was more signs of a cleanup it had to be david

and there was somethin disturbing the medical examine found when she looked at jill, the young daughter signs of blunt trauma in the genital area to the cops, that meant on thing. david camm had molested hi daughter

an arrest warrant issued out o four superior court. hours after his second interview, the indiana state police arrested david camm again and arrested and charged him in the murder of his wif and two children it had been three days since the shootings. coming up, accused of murder and the evidence a phone call >> this phone call blows up hi alibi. >> yes >> a t-shirt and a parade of women. >> she was upset and saddened by it she felt like history wa repeating itself because she said we'll tal about it when we get there

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>> david camm, once an indiana state trooper was now locked u in the floyd county jail

charged with the murder of his wife and children. >> tell me about your emotions >> every time i heard a ke jingle outside my door, i woul think, oh, this is it. they figured it out and woul say, david we messed up, and let me out >> but that didn't happen. >> david's uncle and boss, a successful local businessman quickly became his nephew' best advocate. trying to make his voice heard >> why did you take on the responsibility >> i didn't have any other options. >> i know he lost his family, know he lost his freedom and what am i going to do? he didn't lose me. >> the focus was s concentrated on david. >> did you ever think, maybe i don't have the picture here, maybe something awful happened and david snapped and di indeed kill his family >> i never did think that davi killed his family. >> never >> never thought he did, i

never did. >> kim, spoke with janice an frank when, we're absorbing th awful fact that the police tol him. that their son-in-law was th killer >> janice, they've made an arrest, and it's david >> i was just out of it. then when it finally did sin in, i was back and forth >> frank, how about you. we're talking about early days here >> i wasn't sure i was just going by with the police were telling us >> before long, the couple became convinced that thei son-in-law had murdered hi family in january 2002, 15 months after the murders, david cam went on trial, he pleaded no guilty originally the timelin changed. he said he returned home for the basketball game around 9:20 >> he backtrack from that. >

he backtracked >> that's because the defens had shown that the time of death was somewhere betwee 7:30 and 8 pm. >> everything said that this happened much earlier. >> now the prosecutor argued that david went to the gym around 7:00 and then secretl ducked out of the basketball game, a five-minute drive home and then return to play ball after killing his family they had to prove that he wa home at the time of th murders. there was a call, time stamp 7:19 pm. >> so you have a husband who says i was playing basketbal at seven you have a phone record that says he was likely making th call, at the landline in his home >> almost certainly. he would be the one that was doing it >> and this phone call blows u his alibi? >> yes >> the prosecutor moved on t the crime scene and focused on what happened to came in the garage that night. >> we thought the pants ha been pulled down >> you accuse the husband of the murder why are you telling the jury that he probably pull the pant down >> it's part of a staged event >> kim had not been raped. but the prosecutor argued that her body appeared to have been moved. staged, a cop would know how t

do it. >> trying to get the jury wa thinking that someone was ther to molest her. >> the investigators never located the murder weapon. the only evidence the state ha that the gun was in his hand that night was this. barely physical droplets on th lower left hand of his t-shirt how those drops of blood got there was the crux of the case >> blow back this is what happens when yo shoot at close range >> you get that blood on you shirt. >> correct >> if you got high velocit impacts better on the t-shirt, he has to be within four fee of the child at the time that the child was killed. >> the prosecution believe that david camm shot fro inside the car, targeting jill in the backseat. that's how her blood sprayed o his shirt. but why? why would david camm kill hi family the reasons for those killings the prosecutor declared, was that david was a philanderin

husband. >> that was one of the first times that i heard him cry remember kim's old friend, marcy? the prosecutor had her testify about an affair david had when kim was pregnant in 1994 she was called in tears to say that she and david wer separated. soon after, marcy visited kim. >> she was upset you know, and saddened by it especially just having a baby. >> there was more. just three weeks before th murders, marcy had another troubling phone call from kim. >> her demeanor was different, her attitude was different, sh didn't want to hang up the phone but yet she didn't wan to talk. >> the old friends made plan for came in the children t visit marcy. then kim said something sh never explained. >> she felt like history was repeating itself we didn't go into what tha

meant because we said we'l talk about it when we ge there. >> kim never made it at trial, the clear implicatio was that david was carryin around again the prosecutor portrayed him a a scoundrel who used his badge to get sex >> there's people he pulls ove flirts with them, an eventually he seduces them >> in court the prosecutor called the parade of women presenting them as david's conquests. more than a dozen of them were counted the flirting, the sex, -- >> he wanted to have women and his wife was getting in the. way >> yes >> he was an obstacle for th kind of lifestyle he wanted to pursue >> that's correct. >> and if the dalliances wit the women weren't enough t suggest motivation to the jury the prosecutor had something else, a medical examiner testimony that injurie observed on the murder daughter, five-year-old jill, who ar consistent with sexual abuse >> so now the little gir

falling on the monkey bars >> no, no monkey bars no bicycle, nothing like that >> so there was th prosecutions accused child molester, murderer, th killer with blowback blood spatter on his t-shirt the defense lawyers had thei work cut out for them. >> you had a big fight as defense attorney >> yes sir, yes sir. and that's not unusual but thi one was just so much out o profile. >> coming up >> that cracking in molding, i believe, it was totally founde on things that weren't factual and was a complete fiction >> the timeline of the crime >> that was their smoking gun. >> the defense is about to sto the clock, when dateline continues. nexgard is the flea and tick protection that's #1 with vets. your vet trusts it for her patients... ...and her own dog. plus, its delicious beef flavor is #1 with dogs. use with caution in dogs with a history of seizures or neurologic disorders. ask your vet about nexgard. lowe's knows you never come in for just one thing.

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underway in floyd county indiana.

it was the winter of 2002. >> nervous >> david camm, accused o murdering his wife and two young children, always insiste the case against him was built on quicksand >> it's about crafting, moldin a belief that was totall founded on things that weren't factual. and it was just a complete fiction. >> david's defensive attorne was mike mcdaniel, now deceased he told us he knew david as trooper. >> what impressions did yo have of david before he became a client >> i figured he was anothe redneck state cop. who had done a couple of cases him on one side, me on the other. >> but mcdaniel became convinced of his innocence and came on board to defend him. >> this is one of thos terrible cases that a defens lawyer never wants, they cal

thrm a ravager, they make yo crazy, you don't want an innocent client. >> the defense could onl flinch and take the body blows to the camera. >> the jury is getting thi picture of a hardworking wife, nose to the grindstone, taking care of babies, while he is ou with pole dancers. >> yes, on duty. you have 13 women coming i there with varying degrees o sexual conduct contact o innuendo another trooper's wife, for go sakes. >> not a good set of facts >> not a good set of facts. >> the defense pulled out potentially its stronges

weapon and put david on th stand to say he knew he messed up >> i regret all of that stuff. it's so unfortunate the, disrespect that i showed m wife but then god, we don't jum from that to saying that tha automatically makes a person a murderer it's ridiculous. >> then the defense had to confront the ugly allegation that the five-year-old daughte had been molested. >> it's simply stated, though, that the bruises were th result of blunt trauma >> the defense argued that the bruises happened during th attack still, it was tough going. >> they've got a guy who has a lot of girlfriends, there ma be evidence of child molestations, this is a very tough thing to combat, david >> it is, it's virtually impossible >> having done its best to hammer the states case for a motive, the defense turn t physical evidence. the strongest evidence, th case for david's guilt, was th blood spatter. a defense expert testified tha the blood got on the shirt ver simply, saying that when he go in the car to move his son some blood got on hi daughter's hair. >> the defense testimony was that he was transferred from that contact with the strand of her hair. >> and then the timeline the defense lawyer challenge the prosecution's theory tha david snuck out in the middl of his basketball game, killed his family, and then return to

play ball. the defense attorney focused o the phone call made from the cam house when david said he was at the church gym. the state had tethered its timeline to that phone call. >> that was their smoking gun. they had a bunch of those an every time they would have a smoking gun, they would unload it >> the defense unloaded it b calling a witness from her verizon, who testified that th time stamp was incorrect due t the time zone in indiana >> it was a call that davi made to a client before he wen to play ball even more important, david had a solid alibi. 11 eye witnesses, th basketball players, to corroborate his story that he' been throughout the gym at the gym throughout that evening. >> did he leave the court that night? >> no. >> he couldn't have left without you guys seeing? >> he left out if he left at one point, we would have see

him. so throughout the time there's two sets of eyes looking i different directions as a group, i think someon would have noticed that he was missing. sam locker, the uncle wa playing that night too. >> i it possible that dave coul have slipped away? >> is it possible that he snuc out, we've gone ten or 1 minutes, killed his family without anyone noticing it absolutely not that's impossible. but if david wasn't the killer then who was >> the defense had its answer. it was the person who owns tha gray sweatshirt. the one that was lying by brad 's body the night of the murders. defense attorney mike mcdaniel had recognized the sweatshir as prison issue. >> in the color of thi sweatshirt is the word "backbone" and i'm thinking, okay, that's a nickname. >> tests on that sweatshir reveal dna from various people including an unknown male.

but the prosecutor said ther was no match that male dna was run throug the national database. still, it seems to be breaking point proving that someone else wa in the garage that night >> we knew that that was probably the key to solvin this we didn't know that person b name, but by god we knew him b dna profile. finally, it was up to th jurors >> as reporters lingered in th hallway, the jury deliberate for three days >> guilty, guilty. >> david cam was found guilt of killing his wife an children >> the jury comes back and guilty as charged. >> that's what we wanted and now we feel like jill brad they can be at peace >> then an emotional outburst. >> before i knew it, i was standing up and screaming, you are wrong, you're wrong. and a few people had to take m out of the courtroom >> and you are being walked of and chains you're not leaving tha courthouse

>> right >> and knowing what lies ahead of me, you know, going t prison, a former polic officer. it was absolutely nothing could do about it. >> david camm was sent to th state penitentiary but his uncle sam was no finished >> unless they had killed me that's how they were going t stop me. they could have killed me. no, it wasn't over >> maybe not, but david camm was facing 195 years behin bars >> he was sent to the slammer, that you're going to do time and you are learning how t become incarcerated. >> i had to. i didn't have a choice i had to figure out how to survive. and i made my mind up early on that's what i was going to do. >> did you get confronte inside the joint this is the guy that was a former cop, a trooper? >> not directly, but peopl would say things or you woul hear people talking. and so on. >> did you think, i'm done

>> i was just bewildered a first. but i didn't know that there was a glimmer of hope, tha there is this thing called a appeal >> a successful appeal, anothe trial. most convicts cling futilely t the straw. >> long odds >> yes, until you read tha transcript >> a new legal team with a different strategy was about t take the case to the state court of appeals >> coming up,. he has a foot fetish and s when they thought, at first, that it was not a sex crime, w kept saying, well not everyone targets the same place in a se crime. >> a break in the case someone new enters the picture >> as brainy as ted bundy as brawny as mike tyson a sociopath. >> who is this guy when dateline continues.

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guilty >> nearly 2002, david cam wa found guilty over the murder o his wife and children. the team handling his appeal was -- >> it was not bad odds, in m mind he was way over the top. >> what was over the top, they argued, was allowing all o those women to testify to th sex, groping, that [inaudible] >> it was weeks after weeks, woman after woman. >> how is that relevant to wha happened on september 28th >> jurors, this is bad guy w have here. >> absolutely. >> he's a lousy husband. we're gonna tell you more than that >> that was intentional. >> guess what? , two years after the guilty verdict, the peels court agreed the women should not have been permitted to testify the conviction was overturned. but the victory was short left and new prosecutor announced

there would be a second trial. >> after review of the previou evidence, review of some new evidence that has come to light, i've decided to pursue the charges against david camp for the murders of kimberly cam, bradley cam, jill cam. >> with another trial looming, defense team was intent on bringing sharply into focus piece of evidence they believe would set david free the gray sweatshirt with tha unknown male dna back in 2001, prosecutor sai there had been no match when the dna was run through national criminal database sound lockett said he wanted them to run it through again >> they didn't want to talk to me i know dna in case this guy had bee arrested now and head new dna, which around this? >> the attorneys tried they asked the prosecutor. >> we start, thank please ru the dna in the database. please do it he refuses

>> the state finally ran the dna, three months after sa lockhart first started askin about it >> lo and behold, we find him. >> charles - doesn't mean anything to you >> i've never heard the name before it was a complete shock to me. >> charles bona, a name that would change everything in the case against david camp. his prison nickname wa backbone, the same name inke in on the short shirts collar. >> who does this man turn ou to be? >> as brady as ted bundy as brawny as mike tyson. he is a sociopath. >> charles - a criminal with a history of violent crimes against women it began in the 19 80s, when h was a student at indiana university newspapers called him the shoo band and and followed hi bizarre crimes there had been four separate incidences his early mo he would knock a woman to th ground and take off with one o her shoes. >> really creepy stuff like, one crime, he wore one o

those china doll masks creepy stuff you can't make up. >> police were on to him after one arrest, he admitted, in effect, he had a thing fo ladies legs and feet he pleaded guilty to those crimes and time, his attacks became more violent he began threatening women a gunpoint one incidents involved three coeds. >> he had been watching them and one night, just walked int their apartment, held them a gunpoint to their head, took them out, kidnapped them to th car. luckily, someone saw him wit the gun, leading the women out called the police department >> he pleaded guilty again and was sentenced to 20 years in prison for armed robbery but was released after serving only seven years by july 2000, three months before the cam murders, he was out on parole. defense maintains, he still ha the old compulsion >> he fit the profile?

>> yes he has a foot fetish so, when they thought, at first, that it was not a sex crime, w kept saying, well, not everyon targets the same place in se crimes >> kim cam had bruising on her toes shoes, on top of the bronco. her pants had been removed and the sweatshirt, with the dna was at the crime scene it turns out, that dna had bee in the database three year before the murders >> it took one hour one emai to find charles. that could've been done in 200 had the prosecutor done it >> you think, in a case in which children and a mom are murdered, ambushed in a garage that they would bend ove backwards to do it right >> stan faith was th prosecutor in trial one. >> we asked to, the prosecutors, to send that out to be balanced, tested against a nationa register dna >> i asked the lea investigator to do that and he

said, we didn't get anything >> in fact, he hadn't sent i out at all >> i think he sent out he had sent the proper dna >> faith said he later learned the detective sent out the wrong dna sample from th sweatshirt mike mcdaniel, the first defense attorney, didn't buy that >> i think he's a liar >> you don't think advantage >> i don't think he ever asked anyone to run it >> he told you he did? >> yes >> when he said the prosecutio is lying to him? >> lying means that yo knowingly -- you're telling a falsehood i didn't tell him a lie. i told him what i thought wa true >> but whatever the truth is now, more than four years later, there was a name to that dna do you allow yourself to think here we, our way too close >> absolutely. >> genetic evidence? >> absolutely. >> coming up - a new suspect in the hot seat.

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been behind bars for more than four years >> generally, from september through february or my darkest times of the year. you know, times of the murders and then you have the holidays and the kids birthdays i february >> did you feel yourself becoming institutionalized >> i had to, to a degree for me, it was a matter of, yo know, sitting back and observing and seeing how thing operate, so that i can fit i enough to be okay. you know, i had to lock th real me down inside. >> our spirits was it slowing down, o thinking >> he would sink, only briefly there will be lows there were times i talked to many sound really down but he would never stay there. because he couldn't stay there

staying in that despondency, that hopelessness, i excruciating >> but now they're finally seemed to be a break in th case the unknown male dna on th sweatshirt had been identified as charles beau nays, and tw days later authorities brought tony unanswered grilling him o how he got in through th garage door. >> that sweatshirt is in the middle of a crime scene in a triple homicide. somehow, that sweatshirt to ge out of there, your sweatshirt, you explain to me how i go there. >> i have no idea. >> bonet admitted th sweatshirt had once been, hi butt said he dumped it in th salvation army dropbox about a month before the murders >> he shows up at the crim scene, not laundrie, not what. if it went through the salvation army dropbox, that would've been a clean suture

your dna, chances, are probabl would not be on there. but it is. >> i.c.e. are coming from. >> as for david cam. >> do you know david cam >> no. >> have you ever met david cam >> no. >> and you remember the murder of david camm's family but >> [inaudible] >> do you know where david cam lives? >> only on television. i don't even know where hi address is >> the interrogation went on for some 12 hours, with bone sticking to his story. the detectives released hi with a warning >> make no mistake about it, i anything else would link you t it, you are done >> see, that would normall worry me but i wasn't there >> then two weeks after lettin boney walk, there was somethin else, something big. >> apparently yesterday morning, i was notified of some additional scientific evidence

that link mr. boney to the t the homicides. >> the prosecutor revealed tha a palm print found on th exterior passer side of bronco door frame arlette wa left there by none other tha charles boney. investors have been aware that palm print for more than fou years, only now they knew who' it was boney was hauled back into the interrogation room, and th questioning became mor confrontation. >> you've got some explain t do here, charles your palm print is on that bronco you are there. but now, this is the time, thi is the place, this is for your last stage they are going to have to tell us what the hel happened there this is it >> this can't be happening >> charles >> after hours of denial, bone changed his story. yes, he did know david camm, they met playing picku basketball then in another round of questioning, the story changed and changed again.

finally, boney put himself a the crime scene. >> the reason why was there wa to bring in the gun. >> that night? >> that night. >> boney said david camm had asked him to get untraceable guns he said that he was a gu caught in the wrong place at the wrong time >> as events started to unfold and investigation, it became apparent that this case wa intertwined between two people >> now, the prosecutor had a new theory david camm did not act alone he had a coconspirator the ex cop and the ex-con were each charged with the thre killings dave it was outraged he believed he should have bee set free after all, charles boney's signature it was all over th scene. >> he attacks women, defenseless, innocent women. he takes their shoes, thei socks. he holds guns to their head an threatens to shoot them in the head , you know, all those things from his previous crimes i exactly what happened kim.

why can't they see the stuff you know, they just turn a blind eye to the facts >> but the prosecutor had different set of facts >> we know that the defense ha maintained that this is now th killer that i should dismiss th charges against david cam. the evidence is not there. >> in january, 2000, six charles boney and david camm stood trial separately int different court houses while he was not accused o being the shooter, boney was found guilty on three counts o murder, in the death of kim, brad, angel kennedy. he was sentenced to 225 years. and the prosecutor tea rejected any notion that boney after the lone why? those tiny specks of blood they were on david's shirt, bu not on boney's sweatshirt. >> the shirt does not have hig velocity blood splatter on it. >> so, a former indiana stat trooper is now going to be a coconspirator with a felon >> that makes sense. his story is the only thin you've got that links him to camm

there is no phone records. no one's ever seen the together there is no text messages. there's no smoke signals there's nothing between davi camm and charles boney >> i david's second, trial boney was named the second man at the scene, also charge of the triple murders otherwise, the case agains camm was pretty much the same, absent the female witnesses th peoples court had thrown out this time, the state focused o the allegation that davi molested his five-year-old daughter and the motive for th murders. >> well, the motive was that kimberly was leaving for david cam. she was leaving him because of the child molesting. and he could not let her leave could not let that secret. out that was the secret of the camm household >> the defense countered brought in experts to show there is no solid evidence the girl had even been molested. >> the state's theory of why david murdered his family wa purely made up it was just pure speculation >> dave it camm had never been

charged with sexua molestation. but that did not stop th prosecutor from closing hi case with a big dramatic flourish >> he took his finger, and stuck it in dave's face, and said you molested your child >> the jury took four days t reach its verdict. >> guilty on all four counts we can tell you that david cam has now been convicted of th murder of his wife and the murder of his two kids, brad and jill >> guilty again? >> guilty again. with the same inflammatory evidence, this is just such heinous accusation >> but the saga was far from over david camm's uncle still refused to retreat >> so, you go to david, and yo say you tried? >> yeah, i say we're not don david. you've got to hang in there. we're not done >> coming up, they certainly weren't done but prosecutors weren't done either >> the placement of th sweatshirt - believe that david camm put it there. >> and charles boney he was just getting started. >> he wants me to deliver

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clear the name of his nephew david, continued unabated afte camm and charles boney wer both convicted of the murder of david's families. >> now we've got the killer wh killed came, brad, in jail we finally got tha accomplished now, our next short, we're still after that we're still after getting davi camm another trial >> you're back to the appeal court again? >> right >> the indiana supreme court heard the appeal attorney's d.c. liana and kitt lyle stayed on the case. >> these crimes are also connected to - >> they argued that th evidence david molested hi daughter was pure speculation, and should not be allowed in the trial. >> there's absolutely no evidence at all that camm wa the perpetrator of that, right >> in 2000, 90 upper court agreed >> convictions reversed. two words, that's all i.

needed >> a second victory for the camm team. the conviction was overturned. and the judge ordered a ne trial. >> statistically, a successful appeal of a first degree murde charge is a long shot. >> but i got it twice. that doesn't happen. doesn't happen you know, if you don't believe in something bigger, you nee to really evaluate you spirituality because, you know, man knows a god thing. >> the third david camm tria underway >> in august 2013, more than a dozen years after the murders, david cam faced his thir injury a special prosecutor, stan lefko, was appointed t represent the state. >> but we're about to start th third trial. how did you appraise your case when it became yours >> when i first got, it i wa overwhelmed. i've tried a lot of cases, death penalty cases, murde cases. i've never tried anything like this i've never seen anything thi

complicated. >> with no philandering husband, no molesting father, wha remained was the theory of the crime that david left th basque bony, killed his family then went back to place more once again, the prosecutors ar arguing the scene in the garag was staged to look like a se crime. >> her pants had been removed? >> correct >> removed after she'd bee killed what's more, the position of kim's body, he argued, is no what you would expect for person who had been shot and fallen >> her feet are under the car, about roughly ten, 12 inches under the car. her legs were at an angle, which seemed unusual >> unusual how >> well, they weren't straight they were at an angle. you just would not expect them to be that way >> and the infamous sweatshirt the one that once belonged t charles beau nay, was also par of the staging, the prosecutor argued >> the placement of th sweatshirt was incriminating i thought the way it was put

their lead you to believe that david camm put it there. >> tucked all too neatly under brad camm's, body as if pu there on purpose to fram charles boney. remember, no murder weapon was ever found part of the prosecution's case was still -- the blood at the bottom of david's shirt. how incriminating evidence had argued, marking david as the shooter. >> the little girl was sea belted on this side, as you ar looking in >> tom bellow, a bloodstai analyst, was an expert for the prosecution. in a broker similar to the one owned by the camm, h demonstrated for us where he believes dave it was lik inside the car to get the spec on the bottom of his shirt >> what's a likely posture for the shooter? >> would've leaned in like thi in order to get the direct trajectory for her >> and i noticed your shooting hand is up pretty high >> it is >> is it an awkward shot

>> it's not necessaril awkward. but we have to go with the physical evidence. and the physical evidence is not like this. >> but why so few spots? bellow said it's because mos of the blow back was in th inside roof of the vehicle like much of the other evidence, the blood spatter testimony wa essentially the same as in the other two trials what would be enormously different this time was th star witness the jury was going to hear fro charles boney himself. a huge risk for prosecutor lefko. >> so, you can wonder how good this witness boney is going to be for you >> yes, certainly hi credibility was not bein questioned >> why put him on the stand? and >> i felt like i did not have a choice. if i did not put him on th stand, i suspect they woul have but i suspect the jury ought t hear them. >> this is the story boney tol in court he said he met david camm in 2000, playing basketball in local park we talk to boney in prison >> it was just a pickup game o basketball and i didn't know him or reall

anyone there i just, i'm fresh out of prison you know, the scene is different. >> after the game, he said cam was bragging, talking smac about how easily had beate boney. >> at that point, i just said, well, you know, i may have los the game, but at least m freedom. >> and he's like, freedom? >> and i'm like, yeah, i jus got out of prism >> - continue, and told him he used to be a state trooper. >> at the end of the day, di you know him by name >> no, i did not know his full name until our second chance meeting. >> that meeting was in september, boney said. about a week or so before th murders. they ran into each other at convenience, store and got t talking in the parking lot >> the gist of our conversatio was about, are you employed, are you staying out of trouble but then it evolved into, well what types of things did you d to get into prisons in the first place? he was creating his own form o intel. he was learning quite a fe things about charles boney >> boney told him he had bee inside for robbery >> when i told him, slowly

started to let him know bout of the things i did in the past, he asked me, are you still abl to get untraceable weapons >> untraceable >> that's what it led to >> a clean gun >> a clean gun >> for him >> something that can be trace by law enforcement and ballistics >> so, boney said he scored hand at the same day, met davi again in a parking lot, an handed over the weapon he paid boney $250 but one gun was not enough, as boney's story goes >> he wants me to littler yet second handgun so, i follow mr. camm back t his house. i can see visibly exactly wher he lives >> as boney tells, it they spoke outside the house fo just five minutes. boney asked when he should return with a second gun >> and i'm asking this man, yo know, what time, what time should be back here? but well, why don't you come back on thursday a approximately 7:00, et cetera. so, i knew what time to be back >> so, meager on thursday nigh in the evening, and you'll hav

some more cash in your pocket? >> absolutely. >> it's thursday, septembe 28th, the evening of the murders. >> i arrived at mr. camm's house at approximately 7:00. >> he said he had over the gun to camm, wrapped in his gray sweatshirt >> where is this happening >> right outside the garage. so, we exchange pleasantries and my sole purpose is t simply get the $250 for th second weapon. >> boney says after a fe minutes, the bronco with the wife and kids arrived, and pulled into the garage >> and what happens? >> i hear a little bit o commotion. it just sounds like something' not right. it sounds like they're arguing and then all of a sudden, hear an immediate pop. and before i heard the pop, heard her say no and it was a commanding no like, stop and then i heard a pop and then i hear the word daddy >> two more pop followed >> did you know what that? was >> it sounded like handgun >> so, what did you think? >> i'm thinking that this is a

crime scene. >> so, did you say i gotta get out of here? >> i'd like to say i just left but as he emerge from th garage and pointed a handgun a me, i was frozen >> oh, so now your target? >> oh, absolutely. so, he needs to kill charles boney. >> but the gun jammed. >> at that point, reason says, i'm out of here. >> at that point, when i realized jurgen does not hav projectiles in it, now, my job is to get you. >> you are going for him >> absolutely. >> now, as boney tells it, the scene moved into the garage. >> as i go into the garage, i' chasing after mr. camm i heard him say you did this and i took that as this is you crime. >> as camm went inside the house, boney says he saw the victims, the wife down by th car door he remembers her being fully clothed. and he says he stumbled. >> i trip over shoes i remember touching the shoes.

i clearly touch something that is now a part of what will now be a murder scene. so, yeah, i did pick up. i did try to wipe them down. >> kim's shoes, he placed them on top of the bronco then he looked inside th vehicle and said he saw the tw children mindful of leaving dna and prince, he said he touched o the bodies then he said he heard davi moving inside the house. >> and he clicked into my head he's going for a weapon. i mean, this guy is a former indiana state trooper. >> i wish point, he bolted fro the scene. >> had i stay there any longer there is no doubt he would'v killed me. and he would've just slide and said to his buddies at the indiana state police, i came home and i found this blac eye. >> after listening to bone testify, the defense was ready to pounce. >> that's his story. and it makes absolutely no sense. but it explains away all the evidence they had against hi at the time. but what boney did not account for is the dna that was goin to be found, and he has no

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the defense argued, was as preposterous this time aroun as it was before who could possibly by th prosecutions overly complicate theory that david left the basketball game to kill hi family >> there is absolutely no wa he could've left that jim. you have to believe that h knew when he was going to ge to sit out he timed it, perfectly so woul

be right at the time he wa going to meet charles boney an murdered his family. it is beyond a leaf what h would have to put in place i order for this alibi to work >> it sounds like on those commandoes synchronize you watches situation ovation. >> it's absurd there is no common sense where he could pull it off >> and kim had a solid alibi the 11 men had seen him playin basketball from a little after seven until about 9:20 tha night. there is no want to support an part of the story that boney had just told. >> there is not one shred of evidence that puts those two people together. >> richard came in was a new face on the defense team >> the reason that there i nothing there is because i didn't happen. >> the defense insisted bone was the sole killer in the garage that night, and back in 2000, investigators ignore evidence that pointed towards convicted felon. to make that point, the defens called david fang, veteran homicide detective who now trains police and how to conduct murder investigators

>> i don't like -- against the cops i'm very uncomfortable against it >> they recited flaw afte flaw in the camm investigation the most significant, he said, was the handling of th sweatshirt, boney's sweatshirt >> one homicide detective that has some evidence that has a name on, it dna on, it you haugen, it's such a rare event and they thought of it as an artifact >> which in non legal team means, move on, forget about it >> would have changed everything first of all, within two weeks top, they would've had boney >> and they pointed out othe blenders as well the heavy -- on the blood splatter t-shirt. >> that is the physica evidence against david camm. >> of all the crime scen possibilities, the mos misinterpreted's blood spatter you don't hang the entire case just on the interpretation o blood spatter. you've got to have so much more >> the theory of a stage sex crime, flat out wrong. >> they really never probe out

the fact that it could be boyer or somebody with a panty fetish, or somebody who's just sexually excited at the view o a woman's legs >> someone say who fits th profile of charles boney >> big problem, because th suspect they don't know about, and won't know about for about five, years has complete personality reflected that crime scene, up to the point o how kim was found. >> and remember, a bone a palm print and also been found on the bronco more evidence the defense said that he was the killer >> so, here we have a 90s er for bronco >> defense expert eugene lazio an engineer who reconstructs crime scenes, shows us how the palm print would have been lef by the shooter >> it really is as simple as reaching into the vehicle, lik this, to make a shot for jail. and then for bradley, you woul lean over a bit more, and fire a shot this way. >> i notice that you brace yourself >> yeah >> and this is where crime scene takes place here >> yes, they found a palm prin on this particular area.

nixon's deleon in after taking a. shot >> another defense had fo us said to the victims >> bony's story of course wa ran in, i did this, i neve touched anybody. clearly not true >> there is something in the field of dna analysis called touch dna. lab experts use human cells to make an identifying hit on a suspect. touch dna from boney skin cell was found on kim camm's sweater, her underwear, and on he daughter gilles shirt. >> the dna conclusively proves that he absolutely fought with kim, that he touched jill. >> and the defense hoped i cross examination of boney would be still more proof. camm had to steal himself to watch boney on the stand >> we are looking at him >> right there's no way to actually prepare myself for that.

and it was a situation where i really had to think about what was at stake and doing what was right i that moment, having to sit there and look at the sky that i knew killed my family, and not react. >> the defense said boney' story was absurd for starters, why would an e cop ask an ex-con for a gun? >> the police officer doesn' think, well, how can i trust this guy he's a criminal. and the guy who just got out o prison doesn't smell a rat he doesn't think maybe i'm being set up it makes absolutely no sense >> the defense took on boney's story in cross-examination we had some of the sam questions when we spoke to him >> how many versions did i take to get to the store you just told? three, four, five times, maybe >> yes, i finally realized the more i keep lying, i'm jus digging myself deeper an deeper i'm not going to get out of it and when i did finally start

telling the truth about things i did not feel comfortable revealing too much, too soon because i did not want to be a part of the case to begin with so, once again, i resorted t telling a lot of stories >> the big picture here, charles, is that for a lot o people, it sounds like a crock that a felon, just out of th slammer, would hook up with recently retired state polic officer, and through this gu exchange it just doesn't seem to make sense. it doesn't pass the sniff test >> there is a lot of thing about this case that doesn't make sense >> if i were you, i would have alarms going off inside my head yet here you are, on probation how do you know this former co is really a former cop he's not setting you up with a staying? >> although that did cross m mind it i concerns about it, there is something about him if you spend any time with mr. camm, he has a way of puttin you at ease. he has a way of making you fee like he's legit and everything is okay. plus, i didn't care what the cowboys for. >> you've provided this former trooper with weapons he was on a special lesson

team with the indian state police >> he was swat >> so, theoretically here, thi premeditated crime, he is goin to trust a handgun that's come off the street that he hasn' checked out. he's just unwrapped it from th sweatshirt and immediately used it for hi business >> well, it was, it was th gun. those are questions that i can't possibly answer. why did he want me there at th crime scene? we know why, because he wanted me to take the blame for all o this >> so, as boney tells, it th transaction happens, h delivers the gun, he was the gunfire in the garage, and the david camm tries to shoot him. >> why don't you just deal right out of there >> if you point a weapon at me even on a prison level, is a guy comes at me with a shank i'm going to get that shan from him and then it's my turn. it's that simple i'm just going to put it out there. i can't get any trouble. my intent was to kill davi camm that day. you try to kill, me and i' going to kill you. but before i had a chance to kill him, i stumbled acros

this beautiful woman, dead lifeless on the ground but >> then boney said h stumbled over the woman's shoes, and took the time to place the on top of the bronco >> but then you are down on the, floor at the way you tell. it you've tripped. >> yeah, i did i tripped over the shoes >> and then your emotions ar going crazy. the skies trying to kill you're in a crime scene. you have to stop, you think, shoes, i have to put these o top of the vehicle charles, that doesn't make any sense. >> no, no, no, here's th thing. i'm wiping the shoes off and i see one little laker something hanging out of the passenger side i don't investigate to see i there's anyone else in the bac of the vehicle i when i lean into look, i put the shoes on top i don't even remember doing. it >> doesn't remember doing it, and he says he doesn't kno why. >> i wasn't thinking about why i did that but i was cognizant, and reall thinking about the dna o possible fingerprints from having tripped and touch those shoes. >> but you know, that palm

print, charles, is just wher you brace your selves to lea across and shoot >> that's according to the defense expert witness you've got to understand the prosecution has that sam evidence they don't see it that way >> what i'm saying, if you'r so concerned about tidying up, why would you be so clumsies to leave a bagel handprint o the vehicle? >> i lean into check on th children what i seen there wa horrifying i'm not worried about that pal print. i didn't even realize i left a palm print do you think that if i had not known, i would've taken th time to wipe that off? i want to just get out o there. >> did you touch any law victims, charles >> no, i did not >> so how does he explain hi touch dna on kim and she'l camm's close >> i touch david camm. we shook hands, any handled my sweatshirt my skin shells are clearly o him. so, anything he touches can be transferred. >> well the defense could no tell the jury about boney' past, the foot fetish, the armed robberies, we knew the record and asked him about it. >> when people understand your

criminal history, the fetishes what happened in that garage seems to fit your appetites. this is this guy's history jus played out on a violent scal that he had never been through before >> first of, all my histor does not consist of killin women, shooting people, period i've not had anything like tha in my past yes, i've been in possession o handguns yes, when i was 20 years old, did some armed robberies for cash >> let me put this to yo directly worry in the garage that night with a gun in your hand, takin control of kim camm? >> no, sir >> kids started to cry, i told you to shut up shoot the wife when she come after you? >> richard camm's theory i totally wrong. it never happened. >> in your panic, forget the sweatshirt, forget what th trophies, the shoes you ar maybe going to take later. but for the first time, this sex fetish issue had got out o control pneumatic at a family. did you do that charles boney, did yo kill that family >> that's the most ridiculou

thing i've ever heard. a guy with a foot fetish kills an entire family just to satisfy his foot fetish, in place where he's never bee before it never happened. >> what are you hoping the jur hears today? >> [inaudible] >> with boney as the wild card david camm's third child cam to an end after nine weeks >> it's over but right now, we're waiting for the verdict. >> with the jurors believe the tale they've heard the felon duped into a crime scene by the ex con? for the third time in 13 years his fate was in their hands. coming up -- >> i was scared to death i literally could not put my shirt or fix my tie or m caller and so on >> verdict number three, would anyone dare predict this one >> everyone kind of had that same feeling but none of us had the nerve t utter it >> when dateline continues it can be tough. now, i'm staying ahead of it.

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third trial had the case for two families, there is nothing to do but wait kim's parents wanted nothing but to hear the word guilt again. the new evidence had changed their minds. >> to believe david killed you daughter and kids >> yes, that will never change our minds >> why isn't boney's presenc enough to explain everything that garage? >> he just did not there's just too many othe things >> too many stories told o both sides and you know, i don't believ either one of them are telling the truth. >> we've gotten where th verdict has been reached >> the jury took ten hours t reach a verdict. >> i think he's obviousl guilty i would not expect anything bu guilty >> but kim's mother wa worried. >> i was scared because ten-week trial and near only out ten hours. i had a really bad feeling fro the beginning that it was goin to be not guilty >> david, in a holding cell,

got ready, shaking violently >> i literally could not fix o button my shirt or fix my an collar and so on the deputy said help me. >> his family, the lockers were heartened by relatively fast deliberation. >> everyone had that kind of same feeling of this might b good but none of us had the nerve t moderate, you know >> julie was breathless, waiting for just one tiny word >> what will it sound like t hear the word not, not, yo know we had always heard guilty >> and that's exactly what she and everyone else in the courtroom heard that day the word not, as in not guilty once, twice, three times >> you hear the first one, and then you hear the second one and then you're praying to god he hear the third one. and that's when i lost it. you know, knowing finally, finally the truth has prevailed.

justice for kim, brad, and jill, for me, my family. and i just fell to pieces. >> not guilty? >> not guilty, times three 13 years, 13 years of hell >> everybody around me that lo was crying dave it was bowling. i just sat there i think i was finally saving we've got this thing done. finally. >> for the other side, the parents, the grandparents, the verdict was a devastating blow >> when they said not guilty that's kind like they just ripped my heart up right there this cannot be right what did these jurors see that the other 24 jurors in the pas did not see? >> david, can you tell me ho you're feeling right now >> outside, the cameras were waiting. >> this is complete vindicatio after 13 horrific years.

>> this is a miracle my situation is a miracle, tha we are here conducting thi interview right now. god literally had to move mountain to make this happen >> but that mountain would never have moved without dedicated attorneys and uncl sam lockhart >> i had a lot of people sayin the only reason i'm doing that is because dave is my nephew that's a big reason, absolutely but i know he's innocent he did not do it and the only thing i knew to d that was continue the figh until we reached the solutio that was proper. >> finally, in the david cam case, one that had dominated the news in southern indiana for years, was over. >> your name will be clean again but they're still goin to be people who are gonna point out even whisper, and sa that's the guy who got awa with killing his family. >> i can't help those people if they choose to be ignorant, that is on them. i've had 13 years of my life taken away from me and it's their problem if they

choose to be ignorant. and it is a choice >> david camm filed a federa lawsuit against floyd county as well as several county an indiana state employees, claiming wrongful arrest and detention. in 2022, camm settled woul lead investor gator shau clements for four point $6 million, although clements denied any wrongdoing on his part, or - anyone in the state involved investigation. in exchange, camm dropped al claims against climate, th state, and indiana state police he previously settled with the county for $450,000. for those who knew and loved came, brad, angel, there remains a yearning to see what might have been for the wife and two children >> no telling what kim might been, or what the kids might have been. dave lost all of that >> david camm says he'l never get over the pain of wha happened in the garage tha night. >> the pain becomes a part o

you. and you live with it and it's an element of who i am, you know and you, know how i live m life >> on the day of the verdict as a security precaution sheriff's deputies drove david to a prearranged truck stop, and turn him over to his waiting uncle sam. >> that was the moment he wa really free, wasn't it >> i think so i think it finally hit him, and it hit me. this guy is no longer in shackles this guy is with me. he's ready to go start his life >> it's me and one man leaving together, heading home ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ mmm, popcorn. we need poligrip before crispy popcorn. (regular voice) let's fix this. (alternate voice) poligrip power hold + seal gives our strongest hold and 5x food seal.

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