Skip to main content

tv   Dateline  MSNBC  April 1, 2023 2:00am-3:00am PDT

2:00 am
>> hello, i'm andrea canning and this is dateline >> she was on a conveyor belt.
2:01 am
only her feet were exposed the workers thought it was a manic. and her last hours on eart were not pleasant. >> young women murdered or missing. families in anguish. >> i would text her and sh would text right back. but this time, nothing >> when they killed her, the killed me. >> a serial killer at work and maybe he had a friend. >> that is crazy, they don't work together. serial killers are loners. >> very rare >> two suspected killers on th hunt hunting them, a detectiv devoted to justice, and more >> it's almost like you adopte these young women. >> there are a lot of visits a my church where i pray to no screw this up. >> hello, and welcome to dateline they were young woman with their whole lives ahead of them then, one by one, they started
2:02 am
to vanish. it would take a determined detective willing to go into dark places to uncover the diabolical plot behind the disappearances here is keith morrison wit "good and evil." >> how do you measure a mother 's love or gauge the ferocit of her impulse to protect? >> love her as much as i could about the only thing >> how to measure love a visceral as the beating hear in her own body? >> she was my first born she was my best friend >> how to understand the fou mothers you will meet tonigh and their connection all that not one would'v thought this possible in years any more than they would'v expected to meet her, thei guardian angel >> if i don't bring her home who will >> it's a rare mystery that'
2:03 am
truly a confrontation of goo and evil >> you have to go to the dar places in order to finances. >> a rare mystery that neede an urgent answer before th evil struck again. it was march 14th, 2014, early morning. an army of garbage trucks made their growling, clanking way around the thousands of tras bins and dumpsters in anaheim, california their destination, a landfil which is also a litera mountain of garbage, 500 fee high. and then, midmorning, an attendant separating debris on the conveyor belt sa something. is that a human foot protrudin from the pile of trash surely not >> she was on the conveyor belt, only her feet were exposed and the initially the worker there thought it was a mannequin. as the responding >> but it wa
2:04 am
not a mannequin, as responding homicide it's activ could plainly see. it was, or had been, a woman her body wrapped in a blue plastic tarp >> we had no idea who she was, we had no idea where she cam from, how she ended up there >> something about the dea girl got to the detective trapp, ending up this way, an not a child of god in a garbage. so the detective did what sh always does. she brought her rosary >> it's a way for me to kind o connect to my victims. >> unusual maybe. but the detective should lea on her profound catholic faith to help solve crimes but we julissa trapp does. >> cases need time and work. >> the rosary helps? you >> it does if she could solve this case he would give the rosary to th dead woman's family. but first, she had to figure
2:05 am
out who she was. what there was one identifying mark on her neck, 1 to 2, jodi was that her name? reaching, now detective filled trapp up the police department database of tattoos, they had. one district descriptions of tattoos were written of th encounters that they had and would you, know there was match. but her name was not jodi, i was jarrae, jarrae we estepp she was 21 years old >> she had been contacted here a year prior in anaheim, beach boulevard. the >> beach boulevard certainly the detectives cas check on a new complexion. >> he faces beach boulevar where you come to buy drugs. a lot of them came from good stable families that happen to run into the wrong guy who
2:06 am
somehow got them into the jo these pimps are really goo about breaking down the wome and getting control over them. >> making them a prime targe for predators. >> a lot of predators will start with prostitutes because they think that people will no miss them. >> somebody does >> yes somebody does. we somebody did. >> like we jarrae's mother who records revealed, lived in a tiny town in oklahoma. that tattoo on jarrae the' neck this is jodi and even before the detectiv got the words out -- >> i felt that she was gone. >> her daughter had been s happy, so charming, outgoing but then, said jodi, a boyfriend convinced jarrae tha to please him, she would hav to turn tricks this is jarrae >> we just honked trying to ge her -- attention >> a self proclaimed group vigilante group caught o
2:07 am
camera caught her on camer back in 2012 but jarrae left the boyfriend. turned her life around, so jod thought. and then that awful phone call from detective trapp bob >> i was screaming, like screaming. >> the detective made a promis to that mother, it didn' matter what choices jarrae may have made, she, the detective, woodwork this case as hard a any she ever had >> it literally went from each little motel, each little motel, showing her picture, and havin the clerk right -- look at her name to see if she stayed there >> eventually she found th room where jarrae had been staying in which there was 7 -- $700 of cash, mascara, contact lens solution, but nothing tha would lead her to a suspect. nothing here from the disposal company, she got a list of the doctors -- service trucks that servic that morning and she and other officers wen dumpster diving hundreds o dumpsters. >> but would you be looking for? >> we were - we were all given pictures o
2:08 am
the trash that looked around her. if it looks similar, tak pictures of what's inside. >> no luck waste of time. but then, back on the conveyor belt and odd thing turned up in the trash next to weeks jarrae's body >> there was a fingerprint it was on the caulking tube an a much someone, a window installer who worked for a company called hearty windows. >> they said we always bring i back to hearty windows >> well what do you found, a dumpster that had not been emptied. there was one dumpster that ha been left off the list for police >> the same blue plastic wrapping and was almost as though i was looking at th same trash i had seen on the conveyor belt. >> bingo they had not been for that
2:09 am
lucky fingerprint, the would've missed. it was that like >> it was a combination of frustration but, okay, all right, we are moving somewhere >> so jarrae was dumped here sometime in the morning of march 14th, miles, and from th spot where according to he cellphones record she ha placed her last call 7 pm th night before how far away would it have been? >> 20 miles. >> but that is all the detective knew a week gone by everyone at hardy windows wa cleared, no suspects at all. detective trapp went to church said her rosary, worried prayed, and wondered >> i have heard a story on the news that there were three missing prostitutes in the cit of santa ana >> right next door basically >> yes >> what if this was not th killer's first time, or last
2:10 am
we >> coming up with, for youn women in two neighboring towns now missing or dead. was there a link >> we were like, well what are the odds that they are related >> when dateline continues ♪ icy hot pro starts working instantly. with two max-strength pain relievers. ♪ so you can rise from pain like a pro. icy hot pro. is a new title really necessary? sir, after bestowing the gift of renting ease to millions, a bump is in order. okay, let's see. oh, hey... what's this? lord of the lease! i'm not a hat-person. yeah, no. emperor of the rentalverse. that's funny. no. rentaur the trusted. ...i don't like it. oh. ok. master of the rentalsphere. wow! oh, is it too much?
2:11 am
apartments.com the place to find a place. can a can of lysol take care of my snotty sofa? can-do. mildewy tiles? can-do. these? yup, it's the can-do can. nothing kills more germs on more surfaces than lysol disinfectant spray. lysol. what it takes to protect. i'm your overly competitive brother. check. psych! and i'm about to steal this game from you just like i stole kelly carter in high school. you got no game dude, that's a foul! and now you're ready to settle the score. game over. and if you don't have the right home insurance coverage, well, you could end up paying for all this yourself. so get allstate, and be better protected from mayhem, yeah, like me. thanks, bro. take a lap, rookie. real mature. ♪ ♪ away suitcases come in many colors. so you can find your color. colors. choices. happiness. away. ♪ ♪
2:12 am
2:13 am
your brother has landed in the dark lands. they're under bowser's control. [ screaming ] hang on, luigi. [ ominous music playing ] [ screaming ] yes! fire! [ chuckling ] >> detective trapp could not
2:14 am
sleep, kept awake by the puzzl of the girls someone threw awa in the trash that's when something jog to restless mind, have not some women vanished in the town next, or santa ana what? >> we were like, what are th odds that they are related >> so she looked them up and learned about kiana jackson. she was 20 years old when sh disappeared five months before jarrae's death >> she was just a fun loving child, always made you laugh >> just look at her childhoo photos, that's silly grin, she loved her dog, her littl brother, playing softball. and then it started happening, said kathy eighth grade or so >> she was kind of getting typical teenage -- and high school came and getting around the older kid she got, you know, worse >> how did you cope with that >> one day at a time.
2:15 am
and loved her as much as i could. it was about the only thing. >> after high school, kian went to college about a thre hour drive from home a year later, she moved to las vegas, very far from home now. she got closer and closer to her mom. >> she would call me every day talk to me every day, text message. >> just a loving daughter? >> yes, i did not thin anything that was happening. >> no idea, even in octobe 2013 when kianna called to say -- >> she was in the bus toward santa ana. >> did you say why >> visiting friends is wha she told me >> but then, the girl who called her mother almost daily stopped calling. >> i would start going, wait a second, this is not right. i would text her and she would text right back. but this time nothing, nothing >> gone, not a peep to her mom to her friends, to her boyfriend. kathy went to the police
2:16 am
>> when i called to file a missing persons report the said that she is an adult an there is nothing we can do for you. >> but you knew that there was a? problem >> yeah. >> so cathy started doing he own digging, checked her daughter down to a motel i orange county where the trai ended. her clothes where there, but she wasn't again, she called the police >> and they said, oh tha happens, sometimes prostitutes just work circuits - >> prostitute? >> and i said, no. that can't be. >> but then the truth came crashing down. undeniable kianna had missed a schedule court date in santa ana for prostitution charge. >> but wait a minute, you talk to her every day >> this -- is exactly >> and you knew you nothing of the secret >> nothing >> what does it feel like as a mom to hear that that that was going on all that time and you do know? it >> heartbreaking. >> when she heard kathy story, detective trapp began thinking
2:17 am
she was on to something. then she discovered two and half weeks after kiann disappear, there was another one. josephine monique vargas >> she had a beautiful personality. the color giggles because sh made people laugh. >> josephine's mother, priscilla, was on the news searching her daughter for months after she left th family barbecue to go ge groceries. >> that was the last time that any of us saw or heard of. her >> priscilla went to the santa ana police department, filed a report >> they didn't really do anything to look for her >> so she did. >> nothing was going to stop m from looking for my daughter nothing, or no one >> and it was pure chance when priscilla ran into another mother, desperate to find he daughter martha, 28 years old and a mother herself who just vanished one day. >> well [interpreter there's no way she would'v left, we would say, i'm goin and living everything. behind >> so martha's mother
2:18 am
and priscilla went up and down the boulevard together >> we made thousands of fliers she and i were on a mission to find our daughters >> but no sign of thei daughters anywhere the detective trapp collecte their portraits, hung them o her off his wall and she stayed awake and praye in her catholic way. >> do you ever wonder why go would allow this to happen >> i do. there have been plenty of time that i've been angry with ou maker because you have t wonder why does this happen? i wish you would talk to me an that would be very helpful but i had to figure out what happened just read the clues, collect the puzzle pieces, and the mor you can keep a neutral mind, these are the puzzle pieces fi together >> now getting around it, th pieces pointed to a chilling conclusion those three missing woman, jus like jarrae may have bee murdered
2:19 am
and if that was true, it would mean that there was a serial killer out there in the night. there had to be. more deaths would be coming. unless one idea, it wa grasping at straws, yes, but - >> you know what in my workout. why not. let's try it with. >> coming up when -- >> all sex offenders will have one -- gps monitor. >> tracking the killer victi by victim. when dateline continues. -what's he doing? -he's cleaning the trash cans. oh, boy. meeting a new young homeowner for the first time is a unique challenge. -so you think you can help? -i can try. hey, what you doing? oh, just cleaning my trash cans. wow. it's important to build trust. see you put your address and phone number on here. well, you can never be too safe. with trash? progressive can't protect you from becoming your parents, but we can protect your home and auto -when you bundle with us. -don't look at the hedges.
2:20 am
-they're a mess. -no one's looking at the hedges. introducing astepro allergy. -when you bundle with us. -don't look at the hedges. now available without a prescription. astepro is the first and only 24-hour steroid-free spray. while flonase takes hours, astepro starts working in 30 minutes. so you can [ spray, spray ] astepro and go. join me in the finish 24 hour challenge. start by cooking a lasagna. skip the rinse and load your dishes. 24 hours later when your dishwasher is full, let finish quantum clean your dishes. if the stains aren't gone, your lasagna is on finish. ♪ ...i'm over 45. ♪ let finish quantum clean your dishes. ♪ i realize i'm no spring chicken. ♪ ♪ i know what's right for me. ♪ ♪ i've got a plan to which i'm sticking. ♪ ♪ my doc wrote me the script. ♪ ♪ box came by mail. ♪ ♪ showed up on friday. ♪ ♪ i screened with cologuard and did it my way! ♪ cologuard is a one-of-a kind way to screen for colon cancer that's effective and non-invasive. it's for people 45 plus at average risk, not high risk. false positive and negative results may occur. ask your provider for cologuard. ♪ (group) i did it my way! ♪
2:21 am
2:22 am
away things. fit together with away things. ♪ ♪ that's our thing. ♪ ♪ need relief for tired, achy feet? or the energy to keep working? there's a dr. scholl's for that. dr. scholl's massaging gel insoles have patented gel waves that absorb shock to hard-working muscles and joints, for all-day energy. >> the autopsy came in, the on
2:23 am
for jarrae, the girl on th conveyor belt. >> it is bad it was bad the it was bad >> strangled, beaten, sexually assaulted, viciously according to a deputy da larry yellin >> she should be worrying abou grades, boyfriends, an football games those things >> one wrong turn and they'r gone >> yeah. >> but almost three weeks in detective he detective trapp seemed stuck >> i think she got frustrate and a little desperate and cam up with the idea of using th computer database. >> that is the compute database of sex offenders. if they had a serial killer on
2:24 am
their hands, there was at leas a chance he had already ran file with them at some point it was a little bit like putting the finger into that haystack and was trying to encounter a needle it was worth a try so trapp called this woman who laura low mentally >> they will all have a gp meter. >> was there gps meter her where he jarrae was last makin a phone call, or here >> what's where the chances? she got a hit in bot locations. she called detective trapp >> there's only one person she said i know. him i said who she said, his name is the fran cano, he's a registered se offender >> in 2007, franc cano committed --
2:25 am
allude act on a minor. he was not put on a gp monitor. next question, did franc can monitor put him near the place where the other three women, according to phone records made their last calls? well kianna, josephine, an martha >> and every intersection fo that date and time that they gave me, franc cano came up. >> wow >> for every singl intersection, i was shocked. >> but something about that man, look franc cano what you had a buddy. and she ran into them. both >> i knew that he had a friend look steven gordon the >> steven gordon, he had done time for molesting a mino and later for kidnapping he and cano were inseparable apparently
2:26 am
once the detective pulled up the gps coordinates, where martha was last seen and santa ana, no the gordon but when she took locations fo kayla kianna and josephine there he was she check the record and discovered that at tha particular moment, was gordo not on the gps monitor, but he was wearing one of the other three print places and so was cano. the electronics made i absolutely obvious, here the were cano and gordon, drivin together, up and down beac boulevard, and santa ana >> they were on the freeway -- >> they were in the same car >> the same vehicle. >> detector trapp had prayed for a hail mary and she did no expect anything like this. >> i soon realized, i am not just dealing with one, we ar dealing with two
2:27 am
to sex offenders wearing gps bracelets? >> well before the electroni cross referencing, the cas between cano and gordon wa purely circumstantial. she could not arrest them no without more evidence. and that was terrifying. >> there were young women wh were at real risk here and if you waited too long - how would you feel if somebody else was attacked? >> there are a lot of writ rosaries that were being preye on for sure. >> she set up a surveillance team to's watch cano around th clock. and they pulled self and records. >> we started reading thei text messages and seeing how prolific they were at hunting. >> hunting >> hunting on almost a daily basis. and how nonchalant they were
2:28 am
about it it was almost like orderin takeout we start reading, woul you feel like today? asian or mexican >> oh boy. what do they call these girls? >> that was the other thing. cats >> cats? >> well cats be careful, when the cats know they are getting, away it is going to fight >> the next victim can be fa away because gordon texted cano, kitty cat later yes. to which cano responded, okay. and then a sudden change had they spotted the surveillance as we trapp listen to th wiretap, she heard gordon talk to cano about skipping town. >> i could hear the desperatio in cano's wise that desperation kind of sen my hair standing on the back o my back and i said i am not going to wait anymore
2:29 am
they're gonna run. >> time to move, fast. they caught up to cano as he was boarding a bus and stephen gordon they found him where he worked at an auto body shop next door to hearty windows. but -- >> he made a run for it >> ran out the door >> on the bicycle. yes. he had a little collision with one of our surveillance unit and a little flying over the handlebars and he was take into custody >> both men were charged wit four counts each of first agre murder, forceable rape >> hi steven >> hi. >> and detective trapp prepare to confront a suspected serial killer >> coming up - >> i knew this was going to be a lot different in any other interview i hadn't >> take out with the killer. >> it is spicy >> i told you. i told you to be careful >> when dateline continues onna fly. kyle? and while romeo over here is trying to look cool, things are about to heat up.
2:30 am
uh-oh. darn it, kyle! and if you don't have the right home insurance coverage, you could end up paying for this yourself. sorry mr. sanchez! get allstate, and be better protected from mayhem, like me. that's a hard no. (michael) my tip is, the worst lies are the lies you tell yourself, like smoking isn't that dangerous. [announcer] you can quit. for free help, call 1-800-quit now. new vibrant from air wick. our first fragrances infused with 2x more natural essential oil. it's our most amazing, true-to-nature fragrance experience ever. new vibrant. from air wick. my husband and i have never been more active. true-to-nature fragrance experience ever. shingles doesn't care. i go to spin classes with my coworkers. good for you, shingles doesn't care. because no matter how healthy you feel, your risk of shingles sharply increases after age 50.
2:31 am
but shingrix protects. proven over 90% effective, shingrix is a vaccine used to prevent shingles in adults 50 years and older. shingrix does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients or to a previous dose. an increased risk of guillain-barré syndrome was observed after getting shingrix. fainting can also happen. the most common side effects are pain, redness, and swelling at the injection site, muscle pain, tiredness, headache, shivering, fever, and upset stomach. shingles doesn't care but, shingrix protects. shingrix is now zero dollars for almost everyone. ask your doctor about shingrix today. >> i'm jessica layton with a
2:32 am
look at what's happening several midwest states are a risk for ef2 or stronger
2:33 am
tornadoes tonight. a band of storms pushed throug arkansas, missouri, an illinois, causing extensiv damage buildings were destroyed, cars flipped over, and millions are without power. there are reports of deaths an injuries the strong winds inhales wil continue to follow these storm as they vemo east to new england. for now, back to dateline. >> for six months, kathy menzies waited for news abou her daughter, kianna still woke up every day hoping she would call or text and writing a knock on the door which, in april 2014, is wha happened >> my heart sunk when they came, because i knew right away that it was going to be good news >> no. not good news at all anaheim police told her that two men, franc cano and steven gordon we're now under arres for the murder of her daughter
2:34 am
and three other young women in orange county. what were you like that night? >> i just wanted to sleep. i wanted to go to sleep an week up and pinch myself - >> and make it a different world? >> exactly >> detective julissa trapp wanted to speak with both men, of course. but cano lowered up. so she tried gordon, still in wheelchair after his bik accident >> hi, stephen >> hi. >> how are you i knew this was going to be lot different than any other interview i had done he's cunning, manipulative - >> he didn't have to talk to you. >> he did not have to talk t me >> are you called? do you want a blight kit >> if you don't mind >> no.
2:35 am
>> but detective trapp has a way, as they say you're compassionate >> thank you,. >> you're welcome. >> you are kind to him you brought him a blanket. food >> there are your chips. >> yes, we actually shared two meals together >> is it spicy >> i told you. i told you be careful. >> even so, gordon was reluctant, at first. >> would you rather talk t somebody else? >> i don't want to talk to anybody. >> if you watched me ver carefully. if i swallowed too hard. if i looked at him differently he would say, what's wrong >> you have a word look on you set face when i said where >> so, he was constantly tryin to keep a poker face t continue to elicit information from him >> did you try to play you >> oh, i think he definitely think he did for sure >> that by bit, she pulled out answers. for herself, and for those for mothers. >> did she go by the name kayla?
2:36 am
>> it starts with a key, kianna >> she told me her name wa kayla. >> detective trapp presented him with photographs he identified all four women >> saw her, her her,, right? >> each murder when the same way, he said he and cano pick them up and his suv. drove them back to the aut body shop were gordon worked they took turns having their way. and then, just as each woman prepared to leave -- >> strangled her with my hands >> you strangled her >> some of the details in that 13 our interview were almost more that even a seasone detective could stand to hear. >> as he was hurting martha, she told him, i didn't believe in god, but i do now
2:37 am
there's a part of me that is grateful that she found god at the end. it's disturbing to me that, in response he said, you picked a hell of a time to star believing in god i'll never forget that >> but she had it. a full confession. she called jarrae,'s mother, jodi >> i dropped to my knees detective trapp gave me he word that she would find who killed my daughter >> detective trapp had kept he word now she bought three mor rosaries and wondered, could she bring those women home gordon had told her all of the had been left in the sam dumpster the contents of which were brought here, orange county' prima deshecha landfill. we're except for jarrae, the all still were in ther somewhere. >> we did a lot of research an we had every intention to tr and dig for them >> but the bodies had to be 40 feet deep by now
2:38 am
digging for them would cos millions they might never be found. and the county couldn't afford that and they're just over there, somewhere? >> yes >> 40 feet down? >> yes >> what's that like? what does that feel like >> it's frustrating. it's frustrating knowing tha they are here and we can't bring them home. it's like the one thing that the mothers want, and i get it to not be able to do that, i feels -- it's incomplete. >> does it drive you crazy >> yes, it does. >> kathy menzies knows logically, her daughter kianna must be dead but how to truly accept it without her body >> i would go there today an start digging if they would le me >> matters, doesn't it >> it does matter. >> >>
2:39 am
>> an attempt to make sense of it all, kathy as detective trapp and her partner to drive her to the place where the killers had picked up kianna >> she wanted to go to thi last spot. why, may i ask why >> kind of because it was th last known spot that she was at but i was told she was alive a that spot. so, kind of a closure. just to see where she was at when - before they took her >> that broke her heart to d it take this tour of her daughter last hours >> i think this is the dead en street that gordon, cano entered and turn around. and somewhere in this sectio right here is where she was at >> just an ordinary place. but so painful >> it was hard it's difficult to see.
2:40 am
i mean, it's not what expected the area of course, what she was doin is no mothers wish but just to see this area. to know that it was in what envisioned it was in a dirty, dark, nasty gross area >> kathy and some piece in tha that knowing, the seeing but why kianna's life was taken? so much harder to comprehend >> i don't think a lot about that i will be ever be able to accept it. it's hard. it's hard. >> criminal trials are one way the grieving find answers. and with a confession, the trial of stephen gordon look like a formality
2:41 am
or, so the prosecutor migh have hoped and then the judge made that ruling oh, boy. >> a suspected serial killer turns that case against hi upside down. coming up -- >> it's the piece that bring everything together. and that was gone. >> when "dateline" continues ♪ it's the most wonderful time of the year ♪ it's spring! non-drowsy claritin knocks out symptoms from over 200 allergens without knocking you out. feel the clarity and make today the most wonderful time of the year. live claritin clear. did you know if you turn to cold with tide you can save up to $150 a year on your energy bill? how? the lower the temp, the lower your bill. tide cleans great in cold and saves money? i am so in. save $150 when you turn to cold with tide. i'm your overly competitive brother. check. psych! really? dude, that's a foul! and now you're ready to settle the score. and if you don't have the right home insurance coverage, well you could end up paying for all this yourself. so get allstate.
2:42 am
2:43 am
and it's easier than ever to■ get your projects done right. inside, outside, big or small, angi helps you find the right so for whatever you need done. with angi, you can connect with and see ratings and reviews. just search or scroll to see upf on hundreds of projects. and when you book and pay throug you're covered by our happiness it's easy to make your home an a check out angi.com today. angi... and done.
2:44 am
need relief for tired, achy feet? or the energy to keep working? there's a dr. scholl's for that. dr. scholl's massaging gel insoles have patented gel waves that absorb shock to hard-working muscles and joints, for all-day energy. your brother has landed in the dark lands. they're under bowser's control. [ screaming ] hang on, luigi. [ ominous music playing ] [ screaming ] yes! fire! [ chuckling ] >> orange county deputy da larry yellin weighed his chances against serial kille stephen gordon especially when gordon decided to act as his
2:45 am
own defense attorney >> he's very bright very bright >> he is bright enough - >> smart enough to know that h should not be representing himself. >> but expectation can be dangerous thing. before the trial even began, gordon struck the prosecutor's case a major blow. >> remember that moment earl in his interview where h seemed to reject detective trapp's question >> i can't talk to you >> would you rather talk t somebody else? >> i don't want to talk to anybody. >> gordon argued tha continuing the interview a that point was a miranda violation, even though trapp had read him his rights at the onset. the judge agreed ruled that th jury could not see a frame o gordon's confession. >> when he makes the ruling, then it's out. it's punched in the stomach.
2:46 am
>> because what are you missing? then everything. >> well a confession it is the piece that bring everything together and focuse on the four girls, and now tha is gone. >> all of these women have a special meaning for me and whe it got thrown out i had really hard time >> but then gordon asked for a meeting and sprang another surprise he wanted larry yellin to drop the rape charges >> why would he give you and return >> he said i will give you a statement that you can use against me in this case. >> mister gordon we are goin to start >> so on the eve of trial, detective trapp once again set face to face with stephe gordon and he once again took her through each crime >> so your intention was als
2:47 am
to kill her? >> yes >> okay. >> that was played for the jury and then how bizarre was this gordon suddenly decided he wanted the jury to hear hi first confession to. which meant that the mothers had to hear every graphi detail of their daughter murders. >> and i thought that maybe prayed that rosary too har because we have two statements in >> the jury wasted no time convicting gordon of fou counts of murder >> the they recommended th death penalty. >> verdict must be recorded. >> four for mothers, a measure of justice >> thank you >> kathy had sat through the entire trial, as brutal as i was. what has it into you understanding of human beings? >> they are evil the there is a lot of evil i this world, lots of it >> the mothers will have to si through another trial, frank cano is still waiting for his. but for detective trapp it was a measure of relief, and finally, she gave thos rosaries to for mother - grieving mothers
2:48 am
>> it is interesting t discover, in this final work that homicide detectives are actually softies >> i think that the more you allow yourself to feel, th better you are going to be as detective and we have to go to the dark places in order t find answers the quicker we can get in an out the better it is for all o us >> answers from dark places. we went to the jail wher gordon was kept before his transfer to death row. here he was, a man who claimed to know the nature of his evil acts but did he, we wonder? >> i screwed up. >> what is screwed up the righ expression to you? >> we probably not we i just didn't want to say what i really think. >> well why don't you? >> we it is --
2:49 am
it's beyond evil what happened. what was me and him did wa beyond evil. >> but then came, sure enough, the excuse he's worked it out in his head that the pearl system is somehow to blame for his crimes after all, a sex offender, h and frank cano should not have been allowed to be together. that was a parole violation. and the fact that their parole officers did not prevent a violation, he said, means th state is responsible >> we chose to be together, we were allowed there is a difference. >> we youth really that's what little kids say to their parents. you let me do the bad, thing it's your. fault >> i didn't say that the let us do a bad. thing i said that they let
2:50 am
asleep and hang out at the sam spot and they did beside what anybody said - >> you are going to parse that argument >> so the day i die, because i know for the fact that it is true >> what i want to know it is because that is on you what -- was going on in your head to make you want to do it to participate in whatever you participated in, to ge whatever thrill you wanted what was the thrill? but was? it >> i don't think there was thrill >> there's no thrill, why di you do it >> there is no thrill i watching women die like that but i will go back to it again and again, it was my anger issues that i have fro everything that happened while we were all pearl an probation. >> we may never know exactly why but jarrae was killed or martha, josephine, or kianna but there is one more myster
2:51 am
hiding in this mountain, the final mystery law. >> coming up long -- >> to me, she is an angel in disguise an angel that carries a badg and a gun. >> an angel whose job is not done >> he looks to me and goes your missing one when >> dateline continues the itching was so bad. now, i'm staying ahead of my eczema. there's a power inside all of us to live our passion. and dupixent works on the inside to help heal your skin from within. it helps block a key source of inflammation inside the body that can cause eczema. so adults can have long-lasting clearer skin and fast itch relief. serious allergic reactions can occur that can be severe. tell your doctor about new or worsening eye problems such as eye pain or vision changes including blurred vision, joint aches and pain, or a parasitic infection. don't change or stop asthma medicines without talking to your doctor. healing from within is a powerful thing. ask your eczema specialist how dupixent can help heal your skin from within. is a new title really necessary?
2:52 am
sir, after bestowing the gift of renting ease to millions, a bump is in order. okay, let's see. oh, hey... what's this? lord of the lease! i'm not a hat-person. yeah, no. emperor of the rentalverse. that's funny. no. rentaur the trusted. ...i don't like it. oh. ok. master of the rentalsphere. wow! oh, is it too much? apartments.com the place to find a place. i'm the sizzle in this promposal.
2:53 am
and while romeo over here is trying to look cool, things are about to heat up. darn it, kyle! and if you don't have the right home insurance coverage, you could end up paying for this yourself. so get allstate. need relief for tired, achy feet? or the energy to keep working? there's a dr. scholl's for that. dr. scholl's massaging gel insoles have patented gel waves that absorb shock to hard-working muscles and joints, for all-day energy. >> 4 mothers
2:54 am
four dead daughters. their sorrow, of course. >> when they killed her, the killed me. >> and a measure of solidarity to have each other, especially priscilla and linda. >> now that we know what's happened to our daughters, i know we will still be friend until the end.
2:55 am
because she is walking in th same shoes i am. >> we asked them about julissa trapp. >> this case was solved becaus of her >> to me, she's an angel i disguise an eagle that carries a badg and a gun. >> their own guardian angel wh brought all of them answers. the how, the moms wondered and two men who were suppose to be under supervision by parole officers. who are being trapped in realtime by edgy p. s. ankle bracelet how could they have committe the terrible crimes they wer charged with how could this happen?
2:56 am
>> how can this happen why were they not bein monitored? it was definitely a hard question to get from the mothers of themselves, as well why wasn't it caught sooner? >> sure. >> jarrae's jodi to the th california department of corrections feeling saying i failed to adequately monitor gordon and cano. the state denied the claims in the case was dismissed jodi also sue the u.s. government agents of u.s probation. that case was dismissed as well and the administration offic of the u.s. court published report that said federal probation officers followe policies and procedures. >> can we actually look at the 14th >> as for detective trapp, there was one last mystery t solve. >> yes >> because when she firs talked to stephen gordon, he revealed something she wasn' expecting. >> he looks at me and he goes, your missing one which caught me off guard and tried not to show too much emotion. i said, okay and that was the first tim i've learned about jane though
2:57 am
was from him >> jane doe, according t gordon, there was a fift victim >> did she see where she was from >> she said she was from compton. >> i feel a responsibility because jane doe is not missing person she is an unknown and i feel like if i don't look for her who will i know there is a family out there wondering where she is >> and so, she looked. cheek comb through missing persons reports. she put up flyers. searched, breed, and yes bought another rosary. why is it so important to give jane doe a name? do you, personally >> i just think because she is so helpless. you're on the street you are working as a prostitute and you run into steven gordon and franc cano, and your las hours on this earth ar
2:58 am
horrific and then they discovered you like trash >> trash detective trapp is still haunted by trash and that keeps bringing he mind back here >> even though it is a landfill, it is quite peaceful when it i quiet. >> some were under here, i addition to kianna, josephin and martha, there was victim number five. and so detective trapp worke her sources until she had name it would be reasonable to say, okay, that's her >> absolutely. logically, yes absolutely >> and yet, when we first spok with her, she couldn't quite bring herself to tell ye another mother her suspicions. >> i not only have to go tel her she's done i have to tell her that she'
2:59 am
one of these girls so, that's going to be hard. i think. >> out here with us she seemed to be willing herself. pulling strength from jane doe herself. >> i think in her own way she, will help me she'll help me i don't think she wants to b jane doe forever >> and then a couple of months later, she let us know she called on the fifth mother and gave her the news. that sable pickett, just 1 years old, cross paths wit gordon and cano in the streets of orange county and did not survive. no charges are pending for her murder but another family can finally stop wondering on the side detectives often tell us they work for the dead up here on landfill mountain w understood that a little better as detective julissa trapp gri to rosary, the one for sable we walked away and gave he time and her microphone picked up something. >> hail mary, full of grace.
3:00 am
blasted are that less is's -- >> mountain's of trash things we use and cast away. but for detective julissa trap this will always be hallowed ground >> it's hard to look at that and know that's where you ende up but i know you guys are all in a better place your altogether. you're helping each other. you can rest now and i can take it from here. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline". i'm natalie morales. thanks for watching. ♪ ♪ ♪

81 Views

info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on