the 86-year-old pontiff wa hospitalized wednesday after experiencing heavy breathing he was giving antibiotics to treat a bronchitis diagnosis the vatican says, francis will be at st. peters square firs palm sunday mass marking the beginning of the catholic holy week that does it for me today. i will see you again at seve a.m. and 1 pm eastern tomorrow and mess nbc reports continues now with richard louis in fo yasmin vossoughian >> and a very good afternoon t you, i'm richard louis in fo yasmin vossoughian this hour we are following breaking news this our news just in that the deat toll in tornadoes hitting th south and midwest has no jumped to 18 we had a live report on th scene, moments away. we are also less than 72 hours away from the arraignment of donald trump the first former president t be indicted on crimina charges. while his legal team gathers this weekend at mar-a-lago t

tech strategy and trump himsel posted fine messages, many aimed at the manhattan da. his former fixer and sta witness in this case has a different idea of what is goin on with his former boss. >> it goes way beyondscared. way beyond afraid. he is petrified. he could put on whatever big vibrato that he wants, knowing donald trump as we all do, who's not just forget about th fact that he is a germaphobe and so the fact that he is eve going to be in this area i going to sort of make a skin crawl. trump successor meanwhil taking a hands off approach to the news >> are you reacting to president trump former president trump's situation? >> no, i have nothing to say about. that i'm not going to talk about. it >> i will talk about th white house no comment strateg and whether they can keep it going in the face of mor criminal cases but we are going to start with this deadly tornadoes that tor

through the south and midwes for you. at least 18, as was mentioned, are now confirmed dead after severe weather sweeping throug that region created tornadoe across five states the national weather service now confirming an ef3 tornad hitting little rock arkansas we can see homes completel flattened by the force of th twister. they also said the tornado's path went on for about 20 to 2 miles. more than 100,000 customers ar still without power this hour. one person was killed in illinois, as, well after the severe weather crossed the roo about performance venue an belvedere to collapse. more than 200 people are still were still inside. more than two dozen people wer also injured let's get straight to nbc' blaine alexander in arkansas for us blaine, thanks for being wit us tell us what you are seein right now. and, again, 20 to 25 miles o the ground that is gargantuan by tornad standards. >> absolutely, richard and part of that was right her

in when. you, know i think one thin that is always so striking i just how tragically selectiv these storms can be. so, as i was driving into when there are some areas that ar seemingly not touched at all no litter debris in the yards. the houses are still standing. but in this area right here, completely different story there is devastation everywher you look i look across the street there's a church right behind. me the steeple is completely gone, just right over there to the left of, it that is what i left of when high school, th auditorium is basicall completely blown apart power lines are down everywhere and then you come here acros the street, across highway one one of the main areas in thi place. and you can just see thi devastation. where i am looking right now this was once an i.t. shop right beside it was a gift shop that was a family-owned, place it stood there for 26 year believe it or not. and it was just completely destroyed today. and if you look even further over there, you see homes. you see peoples livelihood that are just lying in ruins i spoke with a young man named

chandler his family had actually owne this gift shop for the bette part of three decades, richard and i t shop and, believe it or not, th house over there his family was just gettin ready to move into that. so he lost to businesses and a home here is what he told me abou what he thought when he saw, when he came back and saw this devastation. take a look. >> this was actually my office >> this was your office? >> this was my office righ here it didn't have the floor either was flooring, but it is over there somewhere >> oh my gosh, your family has owned this business for 26 years. >> yes >> what did you think when you came back and you saw all of this >> i've never seen anythin like it. i've never seen anything lik it and i have abrupt on yet, bu i'm about to break down. the thought of restarting is devastating. >> and he says that is exactly what they are going to do they are going to restart believe it or not, he's got wife, he's got a ten month old son hunter all of them are actually safe. but, richard, look at this

this is one of the things that was hit in the i.t. shop the cell phone cases, little baskets of cell phone cases. they are still here, covered with mud, covered with dirt. but they are still standin right here, while these entire structures are just blown to bits i have got to say though, as i've driven through the town we have talked to rescue workers, who talk to volunteer who are coming up in jus trying to help people in structure after structur cleanup. the town of when it is called city with a smile. that is what greets you on the side as you drive in and i've got to, say a dozen o more people that i've spoken to, you that is really what we hav seen so many people have truly lost everything their homes, their businesses, and are just grateful to b alive. and that gratitude is really coming out today even though it is very clear that they have got a long road ahead of them, richard >> yeah, and that is a long wa isn't. it the gratitude, despite so much catastrophe always great and seems like. that play now it's under for us so appreciate that former president donald trump still in florida thi weekend. but, in just a few days he wil be back in his home state of new york formula and on criminal charges, the indictment reported to

include some 30 counts wil remain under seal unti tuesday's arraignment. many, if not all of thos counts focused on the hush money payment made to stormy daniels ahead of the 201 election nbc's vaughn hillyard joins us now from west palm beach this time by phone a phone, take us through the next few days. >> hey, richard. all of this is reall free-flowing here at thi point. but asked the present moment the plan here between trum allies as well as the nypd and secret service, is to have the former president's five from palm beach international airport, the airport is just about a nine minute drive from his mar-a-lago private residence. he will fly out on monda evening. he will then stay that night i trump tower before early afternoon on tuesday, drivin via his motorcade about four miles south to the crimina courthouse where he will officially be arraigned. now, when i talk about movin parts, that is part of what i' talking about. at this point in time, it is not clear whether he will get

mugshot or whether he will b handcuffed we do know, however, he will a least have his fingerprint taken. and this is important, the charges will be read to him. at this point, that indictment and the specific counts, the charges against him, are not known publicly they are not known to donald trump or his attorneys either. but, at that point when he goe before the judge, is when th specific charges will be rea to him for now, donald trump is at hi golf course here he spent most of the day s far. and, in terms of his plans her over the next 48 hours, it i not clear. over the last several days h has posted a barrage of social media posts in which he ha taken on not only the district attorney, the try to undercu the reputation of the judge wh will be overseeing his case. there's a lot of pontificating ahead of him going to new york ultimately this will be in the hands of that judge though and of course, ultimately jury richard? >> all right nbc's vaughn hillyard, on th road there close to th president. thank you so much for that

for much more on this, i wanna bring in the new york time investigative reporter and nbc contributor suzanne craig, along with legal analyst and criminal defense attorney dian -- you just heard the reporting from vaughn. what are you looking for o tuesday? what will be some of thi versus that? >> reportedly it is going to b based mostly on hush money payments there is no hard concret evidence of that but that seems to be the vibe, at least from sources. and at least based on what has been reported. those 30 counts could be reall to two separate incidents or actual conduct but, you could see a number of different counts that aris from a single act. that wouldn't be too uncommon. i expect to see felonies you don't, and a panel of gran jury from his two meters only. these will probably be felonies, and if they are related to the hush money payments, then in order to take falsification of business records out of mr meter land, you need a additional crime that wa either in furtherance of o concealing and, most folks think that wil

be an election law violation a federal law, which raises authority issue for th manhattan da issue as to whether or not, as a matter of law, you can enforce a federal election law in order to bum this up to felony land even if they are not technically prosecuting that election law, can they use i as a predicate crime to make this into a felony >> yes, suzanne you ar reporting on this. this is not necessarily abou the payment specifically, it i about how the payment happened right? and the details around it. on tuesday, as both dani and fawnridge scribe-ing, what w could look for, what are you looking for? >> well, i am really looking a the mechanics of it. there has been reporting by th new york times and others that there is going to be multipl counts and it is just, how does all o that work? you think there is just one, there is one payment here. but there were multiple checks and what i am interested in is just how did the trump organization, how did th

falsification work michael cohen in his book talk about how after he and allen weisselberg had decided that they were going to make th payment, allen weisselberg and looked at him and said, well maybe we can lay this off in the golf course in l.a.. or maybe, michael, can you fin somebody to buy a membership a mar-a-lago for whatever amount maybe 130,000. we can try to bury it that way i am really just going to be curious to see, a had toda buried in the books. it was technically booke according to a number of reports as legal fees. but then, where did it go from there. and potentially there could be a state tax crime here as well if it ended up getting put on tax form, which is likely no all of the sort of falsifications of business records. and up that way. you can falsified business records and not have it to be tax crime. but often it is. and we saw that that was the case when the trum

organization was convicted o tax fraud and other crimes and falsification of busines records last year. >> hey, suzanne. let's look back so we can look forward relevant to your reporting as well as the new york times reporting last year bag decided not to charge trump, as you, know and he was looking at the former president potentially lyin about his net worth. but, he said, quote. unless you are all great poker players, you don't know what w are doing. he won a pulitzer prize, 2018. a story on trump's alleged fraud tax fraud. so you know about building a case this entire space, how doe this inform your understanding of the journey of this case an where we are at today? >> well, i heard that when alvin bragg said that. because you just don't know if they have additional evidenc that they maybe didn't have si months or a year ago we really don't even know wh we've heard a lot of speculation about why they didn't bring that case it could be evidentiary, o could be because of th

difficulty or just the unteste -ness of the law of this but they could have gotten additional information in th last several months that makes that a stronger case you know, the other unknow that i keep thinking about is, we don't know just role of karen mcdougal in this will she, there was a separate payment to another woman karen mcdougal and will that be brought int sort of show a pattern and how are they going to do that and i think we may, we are going to learn tuesday that is when we get to see it, if that is also going to com into play. but, a lot of it is just, we don't know sorry that is my dog there sorry, we just don't know unti it is done so those are kind of the thing that i'm looking for >> we have got to guess for one, when we're talking to yo season danny, reflect on kare mcdougal what suzanne is bringing up, as well a reporting beyond the new yor times about how brags shifte

gears. he was looking at the case there were so many critics about why was he saying, or wh was the perception that he was taking a step back from th case but he was really puttin together a new funnel, and a real and everything from groun zero talk about we do and what that might mean in terms of what we just learned >> according to mark comrade who was a volunteer with the district attorney's team tha was looking at this case, he looked and then he unlocked an then he looked again and the he came to a meeting and talking about brag he looked at his phone mistook mostly meeting, he left, that' all in mark pomerantz book and it gives us really, in my, mind an unprecedented glimps into the prosecutorial process as they consider whether or no to charge donald trump and they went back and forth a lot. and, stormy daniels and kare mcdougal payments are th subject. this is what was called, in his, book not my words, the zombi case it died, it was resurrected, i ambles along it died again. it really animated that alone should tell you, an joe jacoby no trump's lawyer side on the air, and i agree

with him, that the book is a outline for the defense. yes it's an indictment of trump, the book, but by giving us tha inside look at you get a lot o pros for the defense as. well >> stormy daniels has bee saying, i was not asked to speak with this team ye. that says that they are no focusing on who was paid to, again how it was paid. >> exactly they don't really need storm daniels. and, there's a lot of talk about someone like michael cohen. michael cohen is a quid typica cooperating witness. they're way worst witnesses ou there. a lot of them in my cases ge brought it in and shackles and jumpsuits. so that will give you an idea. prosecutors have always us cooperating witnesses, they've always had credibility problems, and they continue to use the because they work this case, will be documents. case maybe some of that michae cohen make that case documents but they need the documents to win. not just eyewitnesses. >> thank you for being here, as well suzanne underdog, appreciated on the saturday fo us coming up in just 60 seconds republicans on the hill, are

circling the wagons around donald trump ahead of hi likely arraignment tuesday while democrats stay firm, n one is above the law democratic congresswoman and former january six committee member, so lofgren joins u next with her retiacon to th indictment and more. indictment and more. e irritated gums and weak enamel. sensodyne sensitivity gum & enamel relieves sensitivity, helps restore gum health, and rehardens enamel. i'm a big advocate of recommending things that i know work.

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joins me right now representative, thank you fo being here right now when you listen to the reaction from those on the other side of the aisle, and i ranges as you heard from quite animated to a little bit mor if you will, even. what is your reaction to that? >> well, we don't know, i don' know, you don't know, and none of my colleagues know what the charges are. they are under seal unti tuesday. and so i think it is kind of curious that so many of th republicans in the congress ar so certain that there is nothing to this and somehow it is wrong we will see what the charges are on tuesday, and we will se than what happens. obviously the ex president, as a defendant, is completely entitled to due process. he is presumed innocent unti convicted, and i think we'd al be better off if we had refrai from reaching conclusion before we even know the charge

are, and show a little faces i the criminal justice system an our system of government >> let's talk about th judicial branch here and the criticisms that are recovering from these lawmakers specifically to brag and the judge themselves how do yo respond to their criticism that say they are al politically motivated? >> they have no evidence for that, nor do i i don't know either one of them, that they are judicial officers all of the lawyers are officer of the court and i don't think we can assume, it just because the defendan is the ex president that there is something improper here he is not the only world leade who is facing charges. mr. button yahoo in israel i facing criminal charge relating to corruption one of the home arcs of ou democracy is that every person is equal before the law.

even the constitution in article one section thre outlines how someone who i impeachable might also b prosecutable so, i think that we ought to get a grip see what happens on tuesday, and show some faith in america show some faith in our democracy. show some faith and our system of government. >> what about donald trump going after the manhattan da specifically we've seen it over the las couple of weeks. not only in his social posts but as well as in other venues >> well, this is in keepin with the ex presidents mo. whenever he has someone he considers a faux, he attacks them rather personally we have seen that happen actually to the witnesse during the january six committee investigation, and really throughout his life i don't think it is wise for a defendant to do this, but at this point he probably has a

free speech right to do so >> let's run this out a bit. if we look at what congressman adam schiff told my colleagu andrea mitchell, and what he said that if the doj had pursued the january 6th charge with more urgency they would have gone first. what do you make of that assessment >> well, certainly adam is a former u.s. attorney, so i wan to respect his background. but we did feel on the january six committee that we were a bit ahead of the department of justice in terms of th evidence that we had compiled. and that was frustrating if it is in fact true, tha impression, because th department justice has bette tools than a committee of th house of representatives it looks like, however, they picked up the case clearly that committee, having spent just your of two years looking at the evidence, reached a unanimous conclusion

that the president had committed crimes and referre that to the doj. so we will see their job is different than th committee's job. they have to find probable cause, and with this case, the high profile i have every confidence that they will proceed only if they think they can prove thi without beyond a reasonabl doubt. >> representative, as a member of the january six committee you had issued and looked into various subpoenas. and as you know, the republica leadership i think you have th same for the manhattan da alvi bragg. what do you think he should do and what do you think th response might be as they look to investigate the investigato here >> well, what they are doing i obviously trying to interfer in a criminal prosecution, which is entirely improper they have no jurisdiction to d this this is undersea law so, i don't believe that mr. brag will appear, and i don' think he would ever be compelled to hear by the

courts so this is an effort t intimidate him i don't think it is going to work, and certainly i would be very surprised at mr. brag eve shows up before a congressiona committee. >> all right, representative zoe lofgren from california. thank you so much >> well donald trum trump's up is the, taxed present biden saying virtually nothing about his predecessors indictment coming up, some details behind the white house a strategy o silence. but, first, trump's 2024 republican rivals. their run to they are runnin to his defense ahead of th expected - how legal troubles could impac the gop primary. the gop primary.

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back florida governor ro desantis in pennsylvania today he delivered a speech at the gop leadership conferenc happening just across the rive from the capitol building. this of course happening durin president trump's indictment there's a question whether o not desantis is going to gea up for a presidential campaign of its own to make tha announcement at some point nbc's dasha burns is at that event in camp hill pennsylvania dasha, what are some of th points that he is making right now? some key moments from hi speech, and is he capitalizing on the current situation of th former president >> well, richard, the florid governor received a warm reception here this is an event that gather leaders from across the stat and the republican party local elected officials, gop operatives, and voters fro

across the state and he received a standing ovation from the crowd her when he walked into the room he received applause throughou his speech when he hit on some of his big successes that he points to in florida that he talks about. education, he talks abou immigration, he talks abou some of those culture wa issues using the word woke a lot throughout his speech. that is something that we have come to see a lot when he make these sorts of remarks the backdrop to this is of course the indictment of the former president we were wondering whether or not he was going to address it he did in fact make remark regarding. that take a listen to what h said >> and now you have this manhattan district attorney, s now he turns around purely for political purposes and indites a former president o misdemeanor the fences tha they are straining to converge into felonies. that as when you know that the

law has been weaponized fo political purposes that is when you know that the left is using that to target their political opponents. and, i can tell you this these backed da, is they are a menace to society. they are a menace to the rul of law >> you could hear th enthusiasm from the crow there. and, look. he is in pennsylvania righ now. let's remember he was just i georgia earlier this week an he will be headed to michiga and next week. what do all these three states have in common they are all swing states that the former president lost in 2020 and he lost again via his prox candidates in 2022 so, make about what you will of course desantis has not yet announced a run for president. but he did close his speec saying that he is going to fight and saying that he i going to show a little bit mor

in the coming weeks and months so, a lot that we are lookin out for from this candidates when it comes to the crowd though, richard. there was a split. there were folks that were for desantis, folks that were fork trump. and a good amount of people wh said, it is still early. i am going to watch and se what happens to make my mind later. though, the establishment does seem to be in favor of desanti right now just by looking at the invitation list, which did not include the former president, according to th trump campaign, richard. >> and you did mention michigan, and i was just in michigan thi week they are listening there they are talking and debatin about this very story that you reporting on dasha burns, thank you so much as donald trump looks to tuesdays likely arraignment, president biden has its eye on the 2024 white house is no comment approach and, later the show will go on thanks to a federal judges lat night decision to halt tendencies drag ban. live in nashville, a look at what is next for the controversial legislation.

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nbc has joined a coalition o news organizations moving to mediately unsealed the indictment against forme president trump and to see audio and video access t tuesdays arraignment meanwhile, we have see reactions to the histori indictment that we were just alluding to of the forme president. from republicans ready to play defense to president biden remaining silence at the moment,

declined to comment on the indictment of his 2020 rival when asked by reporters to d so let's bring in nbc's washingto correspondent amy shelf than door from the white house, and julián castro, former secretary of housing in herman in th element. good to see both of. you let start with you at th white house, walk us through why the president at thi moment is saying no commente being silent, at least in term of response and opinion upon the case that it is about to really hit a high point on tuesday. >> well, as we are continuin to learn more details abou this historic indictment, of former president trump president biden has been consistent and saying he doe not want to comment. this is a white house that doe not want to be seen as meddlin in any sort of legal case that might come before any sort o judge. they really want to make sur that this doesn't look political are politicized. that being said, of course president biden is continuin to face questions. just take a listen to what h was saying yesterday on th

white house lawn >> what is your reaction t present trump's indictment >> i have no comment on that no, i am not going to talk about trump's indictment >> now, remember president hightman biden ran on the idea they wanted to make sure tha the justice department i independent, and of course tha also means that the lega testament to this country is also independent so he is not wanting to commen on the manhattan da's da's case that, of course, is a very different stance than what you see from potential republica rivals of former president trump. but, even more it is in some ways really gets at the 30 minutes and the politics of al of this. having been talking to voter as well as looking at data and polling, it really shows tha americans, the way they se this are so tied to thei political affiliations the quinney act poll recentl came out saying that something like 93% of republicans see th manhattan da's office is being motivated in parts, and really majority part by politics. well something like 66% of democrats see this as bein motivated by law

so this really is a thorny political issue the presiden biden is not wanting to wade into but that is of course th politics of this it reminds me of 2020 when the candidate biden didn't want to say too much, and we saw the former president trump, having all sorts of scandals in issue with the covid-19 pandemic, an election lies. so, is i think is also present biden's wanting to say not onl out of a legal case, but als to the politics of all of this richard. >> as a political vetera himself, michelle sender, at the white house. always appreciate seeing you thank you so much by the way, julián before we actually speak about what him is just reported about, want to go to -- what this in a msnbc ancho wrote about. she said, first of all the matters of policies an administration don't speak t the cases of ongoing crimina cases. second, although biden has mad a pretty clear that he think trump is unfit to be president you made a big believer in the rule of law. well you know also this curren president, why do you think he is at the moment saying silent and mighty shift gears as we get further down the road an closer to 2024 >> i think he is doing the

smart thing right now. it is the old adage in politics, if your opponent is shooting himself in the foot, just le him keep shooting. he knows that to weigh in righ now would make it seem eve more political, and that i exactly what the justice department, what anybody who cares about the rule of la wants. doesn't want what they want is for it's not to be perceived and not be i fact political and for biden to comment right now, really would only fuel th fire of trump and his allies who are saying, this has nothing to do with a law o accountability or substance. it is all political. so it is a smart move. i don't think that that will change i think that president biden i savvy enough to just let the process play out >> as you look forward to th response from democrats, and a the moment you saw zoe lofgren speak with us a moment ago and i've asked her about, what if, and how does manhattan d alvin bragg reacts to congress in a federal body saying you

now, a statement hat and dna right? coming up to the hill to respond to their questions what would you say democrats should do here >> i think democrats shoul push back as hard as they can. and i was glad to see alvi bragg do that. now, he has to be careful as well he has a job to do he is doing that job he also can't make this look like it is overly political. and, so far i think he has bee doing a good job of that but, allies on capitol hill fo instance need to call out thos republican committee chairs wh are doing something completely unprecedented. trying to interfere in the legitimate legal process of county da in new york. we haven't seen that kind of thing before, especially a vociferously as they have done over the last couple days. so they need to be called ou by those democrati representatives in washington. >> you've run for presiden before you will probably do it again, somewhat hope. if you look around desantis, h hasn't announced yet

we played some of the sound in his reaction pennsylvania to the current case he is getting close to it, but he is not jumping in headfirst on this. what do you think of his response over? >> well, i think so far he's kind of playing the same game. he is letting trump take these negative headlines his problem is that, clearly the republican base is a rallying around donald trump because he has gotten him to believe that this is an unfair witch hunt that creates a problem for ron desantis because his numbers have tanks in the past couple of months especially if donald trump has attacked him he also faces the potential of trump taking up all the oxygen in the room, basically and because of that, the gop has a whole faces this potential nightmare scenario o trump, who could easily win hi primary. but then also potentiall easily lose the genera election in 2024 >> but, is that a simila strategy as you were sayin before to president biden bu for.

just let trump sort of sel implode. that's right, and i think that is what roger centers will probably do. there is no use for him to pylon against trump at thi point. he is trying to make it look like he is an ally of trump. and that the process will play out. that he is calling in a witc hunt as well i think that is going to continue >> always good to see. julián castro, thank you so much coming, up the tennesse drag ban now on pause just hours before we go into effect why a judge says the controversial new legislatio missed the mark. but first, will trump' indictment heard or help his election efforts what voters are saying about the former presidents ongoin legal troubles plus, a programming note tomorrow night, tune into ou special coverage on th indictment of donald trump led by ali velshi. he will be joined by our colleagues, simone sanders katie feng, reveling a sharpton, and more the show gets started at 6 p eastern only on msnbc. eastern only on msnbc. ade for people like sam who make...? ...everyday products... ...designed smarter.

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here and tensions here i tennessee have been highes since really the end of last year conservative community members and politicians and pastor have been pushing for th passage of this legislation, arguing that it was necessar to protect children from sexualize performances and adult entertainment. the performers, the business owners involved drag shows her in tennessee though, say tha it unfairly targets ar long-standing businesses here, and the lgbtq community, and there are forms. take a listen to some of the conversations that i had wit people who be most affected by this legislation >> all we can do is say that i is bad and it is wrong and please don't do it to us but, they have found us to be really effective political tool >> we need all hands on deck >> because when they finis with us, they don't be naive enough that they are not comin for you. >> it is also important, richard, to put this in contex here on the same day that the

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reactions to donald trump' indictment this week fro lawmakers, critics, and allies as well. two members of trump's very ow family but as we inch closer to the primaries and get into ful swing, the only reactions that really matter will be those of the voters going forward nbc's marissa parra has been speaking to the voters i washington d.c.. good to see you, marissa what types of reactions at the scene? >> hey, richard. so, before we get to that. i want to get to a poll that was actually done this week. i think it is a pretty it is pretty telling to what you are going to see and hear from the people we spoke to so, in this poll we had

chance to see roughly 60% of those polled from quinnipiac who said that unindicted shoul disqualify former presiden trump from running for president in 2024. and then roughly 40% said it should not and among that, we see the overwhelming majority of democrats said he should b disqualified, and then the majority of those who said h shouldn't were gop voters. so, what we are seeing here is that really, his indictment is not changing opinions. but the opinions on th indictment are so strong so, take a listen to the peopl we spoke to this morning >> i mean, it is historic. that is definitely one thing t say about it but, i think for the last what four or five years, it has bee incredibly frustrating that we have gotten a sense that the president is above the law which should not be the case >> consequentially it may no come out to that much. i think having to see this through, especially with the former president, it's actuall putting towards action towards

some things towards any former president, really shows that w want to keep people accountabl even if it is not going to amount to much >> do you think you are goin to vote for him next year? >> yes, definitely >> now, remember who we ar talking about here this is what people seem t indicate still, the front-runner fo republican contenders for 2024 and so we are also talking about someone who has been i the political field for quit some time now. there has been a lot that ha happened between january 6th and then just this pas election to begin with there are still people out there who believe that forme president donald trump won thi past election. that there was widesprea election fraud, and they still would stand behind him now so, some indictments are reall not going to change majo peanuts on that. those who have strong opinions against him aren't changing as a result of these charges. so, really richard more or less no surprises here that both sides seem to be remain firmly entrenched i their opinions and camps here.

>> yeah, or a. so we have three other cases that are still suing so those numbers will go up an down as we see what happens fo the former president thank you so much. let's go now to capitol hill and those who have been smokin out and not. for instance, the top senate mitch mcconnell let's go t charlie circuit for more o that and, julie, when we think abou this, what can you tell us about mitch connell at the moment how is this how, and he is not necessarily been very receiver us about the progress of thi indictment in new york city. >> yeah, and look, he is a ver tactical politician. up here, when he doesn't wan to say something he will jus ignore reporters so, his silence here is also deafening in a way and i am told that he likely won't say anything until thi indictment is unsealed, unti these charges are brought to light. and in part, it is because h is a very contentiou relationship with the former president. he has been the subject of the former presidents barrages o name-calling and so forth. and, so he is going to keep hi cards close and his powder dry

on this one. there is also a handful of other republicans, namely thos who voted to convict the forme president during the secon impeachment trial after januar 6th, who are also not saying much they want this case to pla out. but then on the flip side, the majority of republicans, especially in the house, are just lining up behind th former president mr. trump has been able to coalesce all of the republicans around him for the most part. even those who aren't hi biggest fans, per se but are uniting around the fac that they see this investigation, this indictment in new york, as political. if you see a series of tweet on your screen for some of his most hearted supporters, including speaker mccarthy who instructed three house chair to look into an invest and investigate and centrally th investigators in new york. chairman jim jordan, oversight chairman john corman, chairman brian steele traded letter back and forth with alvin bragg, saying that the investigation, the indictment is solely political. but then you have democrats of course across the aisle, who

are saying that this investigation play out no one is above the law. not even a former president. not even a former president to by the, way is running for president in two years so, a lot going on here. a lot to see, and watch, and happen but these buildings and cultur and before the next two week for the easter recess. so we will be pressing lawmakers, because it isn' going to go away anytime soon. >> 15 seconds. so, mcconnell, very similar to biden in terms of no responding is this generational, is thi about experience veterans? >> i mean, it could be the former and the latter. they both are very different positions and implications for why they're staying silent here obviously with biden no wanting to sound political i any way. but, mcconnell very tactical he doesn't need to go on the offense now until he sees more of what the charges are. and we see julie tsirkin there for us in capitol hill thank you so much julie, tha wraps it up for me this hour i'm richard louis in for yasmi vossoughian. yes men will be back tomorrow pm eastern so stick around for that simone those starts right now.