>> good evening, and welcome t politicsnation tonight's lead justice, fo all. in just three days, donald trump is expected to b arraigned in a manhattan criminal court the unprecedented indictment o

a former president and current presidential candidate puts ou democracy in uncharted territory. trump is already lashing out attacking the investigators, them integrating our justice system, and calling on his supporters to protest. that's all without making an of the pleas for peace w normally expect from someone seeking to lead our nation and republicans, for the mos part, have rallied around him, echoing his claims that th legal system has bee weaponized for those of us with lon memories, no trump has littl regard for the rule of law he did not care about du process when he was calling fo the central park five to b executed before the had thei day in court he did not care about politica witch hunts when he campaigned on lock up, locking up his opponent hillary clinton, with

chance of lock her up. and now it appears as if trump's refusal to live by the same rules as the rest of us may finally be catching up wit him. and if it does, the paybac will be richly deserved. it's a very busy hour ahead, and we start with the perfec guest. joining me now is former attorney for donald trump, michael cohen. he's author the book, revenge and host o mea culpa podcast. michael, thanks for joining us again. >> always. >> michael, you have been at the center of the stormy daniels hush money case from the beginning. first as defendant, that is a convict and now as a key witness before this case, you are so close to trump. he told you he considered you a son. how do you think trump really reacted behind the scenes when he foun out he would be indicted? he had said a couple of day before, they should close th case, there is no case. and tw

days later, we are hearing i the evening he's been indicted how do you think, as someone who has been as close to him a his kids at some point. how do you really think he felt >> he is furious right now. as you know, rev, because you kno donald a very long time. which is what makes you excellent as a talking head, versus these individuals who want to sa things that they really don' know him. he is furious righ now. because donald is not somebody who likes to take accountability. alvin brag alvin bragg dropped like a 2000-pound and full of accountability just onto his lap. it is the first time in his life that he is going to b held accountable for his own dirty deeds. >> the case isn't just legal it has become personal. last week i confronted trump' lawyer on this program about the threats district attorne alvin bragg, including the former presidents re-post of a picture that appears to show

threatening alvin bragg with a bat. the da's office has reportedly received numerous threats. and, michael, i don't want to get personal, but have to ask you on the air. we talked about this off the air. you've received a lot of threats. you and your family the last days since th indictment. do you fee uncomfortable talking abou that because it touches me whe you were away. i talked to you son, had prayer with him, ha prayer with you before. and yo shared with me on the phone th other day that the threats had become, had gone off the chain since the indictment >> well, that is donald trump. that is him blowing the do whistle, so to speak he knows exactly what he i doing. when he was holding u that baseball bat to alvin bragg, he is sending a mob message. he is not just doin it to show a baseball bat, where the baseball bat is slugger made in usa like his reporting. purporting. that is a lie. and, what he is doing is he is trying to invok fear and intimidation. but a

the same time, he is als passing the message to his supporters. baseball bats, the work too >> they see also trying to pla imply that whoever may b witnesses at this trial that h is trying to intimidate them >> yeah. so, his threats o intimidation are not specifically directed at alvin bragg, or the prosecutoria team. it is anyone that he deems a threat to him. he want them to know that he has the power of 28% of the republican party. he has these mob guys who, like the ones that storme the u.s. capital, seditiou conspiracy, he has a group o individuals that seek, that he wants to do hist. and, that is exactly what he is doing. >> and that could also include the judge and the jury, an everyone involved. >> he has already gone after the judge.

the judge hates him. the judge is racist. i mean, he says the same thing over and over again. but h does it in a clever enough way that you can't actually then lock him up under -- what is it, section, 240.3 which is a threat, secon degree felony harassment it doesn't work that way. so he is clever enough to use the right to language, but he is not smart enough not to do i in the first place >> now, officials familiar wit the planning say forme president trump will fly bac to new york on monday, spend the night at trump tower befor being driven to a manhatta courthouse for his arraignment early tuesday afternoon. h will be taken straight to th courtroom area. and right now, we have been told there are no plans to handcuff him. mor place him in a holding cell, o even take a mugshot. tell us about that day you wer arraigned in contrast and ho it might be the same o different than what donald trump will experience on

tuesday. >> it is totally different the second time when the brought me in for example in the unconstitutional remained, not only did they handcuffed me, but they shackled me as well they put me into a room that must have been 35, 40 degrees. they left me there for several hours until i thought my teeth were going to fall out of my mouth because it was that cold in the room. >> wow >> i was fingerprinted again another mugshot. it's the whole nine yards. now, i'm not upset o disappointed that they choos not to handcuff the former president. we are different. h is the former president of the united states, and out o respect for the office of th presidency, i don't want to se that as a vision for all international media to show. like, when they did that t noriega. that is not what want to see. but he has to b mugshot id he has to be, he has to be fingerprinted, and he has to b processed. that part of th system, i believe, he has to d

and he will end up doing >> it seems that, in some ways you have more respect for hi having been president than h has by some of the behavior he has. but we don't know if forme president trump will make an public statements after th arraignment. but he has been reportedly been speaking wit allies planning that day, an he's already, they say, he's reported that he's raise nearly $4 million for hi campaign of the indictment. now, you've known trump for years what do you say about that and what do you expect >> i say that that is part o the great trump grift that has been going on literally sinc the day he left the whit house. but i don't believe tha they he actually raised $4 million. >> oh you don't? >> i do not. i believe tha what he's doing is he saying oh my god somebody people have sent money into donald, why am i not doing it i don't think they are doing nearly as well as he says. it is also to show that he has so much support. it reminds me so much of when he refused t debate the second debate. they

claim that he raised $6 millio for veterans. he did not raise $6 million for veterans. and more importantly, if i wasn't for the media getting involved and saying, well, maybe you could tell us, who did you give the money to? because you raise the money fo veterans >> now all of a sudden they ha to start scrambling for rich which institution or which 501 c threes, charitable organizations, they were going to give it to. and of course the nonsensica lying that he was putting ou was, we have to do our due diligence to make sure tha they are legit and that they fall in line with what w expect you don't need to check out, for example, wounded warriors. there are plenty o organizations you could have given the money to that need i and deserve it, especially since that how you like to fundraised >> - and you went to jail, in par with - this same particular stuff tha he's now indicted for, w

believe -- indicted for you were critical an disappointed when the case did not go forward a year ago. and now alvin bragg has come back to the new team and they've gone all the way, an indicted him in your gut, from what you kno -- and i know you don't know th case beyond what you are doing -- do you think, at the end of, this donald trump will be foun innocent or guilty >> no, i think you we foun guilty based upon all th information that i know is i the hands of the distric attorney i think it's not a difficult case as so many pundits want t say. the thing that bothers me more even than what these pundits say is when they start to talk about which cases more important. well, yes, i acknowledge tha seditious conspiracy, th january 6th, we certainly more significant than hush mone payments for -

record keeping and so on i also acknowledge that hi attempt to overthrow a free an fair election, the fani willis case, is also more significant in the eyes of people. but let's not forget what they did to alcona. they could not get him o murder, extortion, racketeering, and so on, so they got him o tax evasion. it's still a crime and we should not be ratin which crime is more importan for the american people to giv a thumbs up on it does not make any sense t me i went to prison, in part, because of this. i'm not the one who had th fair he did i'm just the idiot who paid fo it >> wow and interestingly enough, yo compare him to al component. one of the things that has bee striking to me is, they say, well, michael cohen is a felon he's going to testify -- first of all, we don't know wh all is going to testify. and he said there's pape background to backup what yo were saying. and that is -- but donald trump knows tha

felons and criminals are who testify against felons and criminals. and if he forgot, he can ask rudy giuliani. he used many of them to pu people in -- >> yeah, exactly michael cohen, thank you for being with us. >> great to see, you rev >> all right praying for you and your famil -- whatever you decide, i don't want anybody heard in this including donald trump >> me too. >> thank you former trum attorney michael cohen joining me now is eric holder, former u.s. attorney general under president obama. he is chair of the nationa democratic redistricting committee, and also the author of a great book called our unfinished march and mr. attorney general, it's great to see you as always it's been too long since we ha no politicsnation. you did my radio show the othe day. and before i get to what i going on in wisconsin where yo are and we want to talk abou this high profile supreme cour election on tuesday there i'

be remiss if i did not ask you a former u.s. attorney, fo your reaction to the manhattan district attorney's indictment of donald trump this week. do you have any thoughts >> yeah, i think at this point everyone should be a littl patient. we don't know what's contained in the indictment. we - no one has seen the indictment and people who are saying, wel this is an insignificant case, you know you haven't even seen that case. and i think peopl need to keep this in mind also the election in which donald trump was elected was a clos one. hillary clinton won i guess almost 3 million mor votes than he did. the electoral college was close. had this information come ou before the election, it is entirely possible that a few thousand votes in a couple o states might have switched and he might not have won th election. so, as we assess how serious a case this is, and ho significant cases, we should not lose sight of that fact. but, to have a more detailed conversation about the strengt of the indictment, propriety o the indictment, i think we

actually have to see the indictment itself. >> one of the most troubling yet predictable developments t come out of this indictment, donald trump's allies in the so-called law and order part taking their cues from the former president are targeting alvin bragg along a la enforcement official for doing his job. house gop chairs have been trying to pressure alvi bragg to term over sensitive information related to thi investigation. threatening t federally defund him. it is tactic you are no doub familiar with. republicans hel you in contempt of congress. something that had never happened before two an attorne general. while they are trying to jet up a scandal over operation fast in the furious. do you think it is a misuse of congressional authority to try and target prosecutors for political purposes >> sure. it is an obvious abus of the power that they have, that they now have in th house. there is actually n

jurisdiction that congress has over a state or a loca prosecutor. and there is n indication that mr. bragg ha done anything inappropriate. now, if i were him, i would in an appropriate way and with as much respect as i can tell him to go pounce and. because th reality is, you don't have a ability. fund me, they are not a part of the federa government. they are a separat part, a separate structure. in this attempt by these maga extremists to involv themselves in the case, to support the former president to attack a prosecutor who has done as best i can tell, nothing other than his job, think is wholly inappropriate. >> all right, i have to get to wisconsin but i'm sure you saw trump in that infamous basebal backed re-post talking about death and destruction if he is indicted. all this as bragg an

his staff have receive hundreds of death threat including that letter from las week directly threatening brag assassination. also against hi wife. i mean, i thought law an order republicans like prosecutors, mr. holder. wha gives here >> well, you know, that is the law and order party. so you se what they are doing with alvin bragg. but let's not als forget what they did with thos fbi agents who participated in the court authorized search of trump's residence. they put ou their names, the places wher they lived, so that people might do things against them a well. they are selective i their support of law enforcement. if law enforcemen is looking at somebody else, o some other group, they are supported. if law enforcemen is looking at them, or somebod who leads them, then they call law enforcement to task in charge people in the enforcement with doing thing that are not supported by th

facts. >> all right, now moving on to the busy day. i understand you have had in wisconsin. joining state democratic leaders at tw separate get out the vot rallies in support of wisconsi supreme court candidate circui court judge, janet protest awaits. who is locked in a whole pry pro high-profile rac against a conservative opponents who was connected to a scheme to use fake elector to reverse the 2020 election results in the state. th washington post editorial boar has called this judicial election quote, this year' most significant political contest in a presidentia battleground state, with enormous implications fo abortion rights, redistricting and union organizing, and of quote. adding that this contes has become the costliest judicial election in u. s.

history. with more than $3 million spent, and quote. wh are the stakes so high specifically in wisconsin' supreme court race >> well, because it's wisconsin supreme court will ultimately have to rule on a whole variety of issues. including whether or not women are going to have the right to an abortion in this state. whe the abomination decision cam out of the federal supreme court that overturned roe v. wade, what went into place was in 1849 law. an 1849 law whe women could not vote. people meeting that could not vote, i 1849 law that outlawed abortion. so the question that the supreme court is going t have to decide is, does that 1849 law still valid they're also going to have t look at the gerrymandering tha was done by the prio administration in the 2011 cycle. whether or not that gerrymandering there was done, and which is still in effect is in fact unconstitutional.

my guess would be that the cas would come before the suprem court that, wisconsin suprem court to decide that. there's whole range of issues that would come before that supreme court in wisconsin that matter to the people of wisconsin. bu beyond that, this is a election between a competent impartial, and fair judge, janet -- against the guy who is a mag extremists, who is involved, a you said, that scheme to sen fake electors, an alternate se of electors to the electoral college. and so, this has nationa implications, as well. tha attempt to send the ultimate set of electors to the electoral college was knocke down by the wisconsin suprem court. if the opponent i elected to the supreme court i 2024, that result could be different if republicans decid to do what they did in 2020 an send that again, alternate sentiment electors inconsistent with what the people of wisconsin voted for.

>> you were serving as president obama's attorney general when 20 children and six adults were shot in killed at sandy hook elementary political question. given thes repeated shootings, given wh these victims are, in addition to the adults lost their lives we are sending these littl angels to graves well before their time. as a result of thi out of control gun culture tha

we have. this is not a political issue, this is a moral issue. we, this is because, has become a national sin. and we need to come u with ways in which respectin the rights that people have to hold onto weapons, to do the kinds of things that the american people generally agre upon. ban a soul weapons, to universal background checks, stop the production of these large capacity magazines. thes are all the kinds of thing that we can do that will hav an impact. and we have seen it before. -- and then the increase when the assault weapons ban was done away with. so, the president has done a lot with what power he has. congress has got to do more. state legislatures i hav to do more. and we have to worry about what this suprem court will say, if states do pass reasonable an comprehensive gun safety legislation. i worry about wha

the supreme court, federal supreme court made might do. >> all right, former attorne eric holder, thank you ver much for being with us thi evening. after the break, republicans are standing by their man. even gop presidential hopefuls are circling the wagons around trump. we will look at what that coul mean for 2024. but first, my colleague richar lui with the day's top new stories. >> richard >> thank you, rev. and good saturday to you tornado watches from texas t michigan as a severe storm system it's the midwest an southern states. at least 22 people are dead, getting including 11 i arkansas where governor ther disk declared a state of emergency. pope francis was discharge from a hospital today afte spending three nights. he wa treated for difficult breathin due to bronchitis. the vatican says, the 86-year-old will b in st. peters square for pal sunday mass, though, to mark the start of holy week. more politics nation, with reverend

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senator tina smith, democrat o minnesota. senator, thank yo for coming on politicsnation. want to go right to it. i want to start by asking you about the politics of this trump indictment. trump, and many of his defenders in the republica party have called the stormy daniels case a witch hunt. but a consistent refrain from trum has been to call for his political enemies to be locked up. most famously, hillary clinton. but also presiden biden, hunter biden, barac obama, congressman adam schiff congresswoman omar from your state, michigan governor gretchen whitmer, and former fbi director robert mueller, just to name a few that he has called to be locked up. how do you explain this doubl standard >> well, hello reveren sharpton. it is so nice to b with you. call me old fashioned, but i don't think it is ever

good to be indicted. and i hav been involved in a lot o campaigns, and i have never ha one of his campaigns heard anyone say, boy if we coul just get indicted this is goin to be great for our prospects. it is, i think, a sign of ho low the republican party has sunk. and donald trump, this i donald trump's republica party. but, as i was listening to what you are saying, yo think of this rhetoric as of witch hunts and the calling fo the arrest of his opponents. tearing down the media, tearin down our judicial system and our legal system. those are th hallmarks of authoritarian and extremist movements that w have seen in history. and it i playing out exactly along thos lines here in the united state with these followers of trump. so, i continue to you thin that we are in a very dangerou time >> are you at all surprise senator that all of trump' supposed rivals in the 202 race, ron desantis, chri christie, glenn youngkin, just

to mention of you, are all defending trump right now? >> well, it really is kind o incredible. and i think it demonstrates that this i donald trump's republica party. i think that the poll show that he is running pretty far ahead of any of hi opponents. so, it is reall just remarkable. and i think again it shows how low the republican party has sunk that that is the situation that w are in. and i think abou having sat through two impeachments in the united states senate of donald trump. my republican colleagues could have voted so that donald trum could never take office again. and then they chose not to d that, and we are all paying th consequences of that today >> congresswoman marjori taylor greene says she would travel to new york on tuesda to protest trump's arraignment potentially making a tense situation even worse. it is th latest bit of hypocrisy from congssman greene, who this week tried to interfere with

atf agents conducting a routin gun store check in georgia because she claims the agent what do you make of thesnow, republicans who seem to favo their maga agenda over the basic rules of law in this country? >> it shows, i think, again th hallmarks of this extremist an tending towards authoritaria view that the legal system i not in service of the people and that you can rise up and rise up against the government of this country. and, let's al acknowledge that it was only barely three years ago tha donald trump called for people to come to washington d. c.. and i was in the united states capitol when it was attacked b insurrectionists. so, i hope that of course, in every cas that we have peaceful protest. and it is the right of peopl in this country to protest. bu the rhetoric of marjorie taylo

greene, and tucker carlson, an other supporters of th president, feels dangerous t me given what we have been through in this country over the last several years >> finally, it seems like th only republicans who are staying quiet about trump ar some of your colleagues in the senate. and it starts with the top minority leader of the republican party, the top of the party mitch mcconnell. who has been notably silent on the matter. what do you make o this briefly please? >> well, i would like to hea mitch mcconnell come out and condemn the president fo calling on people to, callin for death and destruction as h faces this indictment. i think that it should be incumben upon all americans in this moment, including my republica colleagues, to speak out against this dangerous rhetoric >> senator tina smith, thank you for being with us. after the break, the first indictmen of a former president, but maybe not the last. my political panel talks abou

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is former u. s. senator doug jones, our democrat of alabama he is now a distinguishe fellow at the center for american progress. i shoul also mention he is the forme u. s. attorney for the state o alabama. and, former congressman carlos curbelo republican of florida. welcome to you both. doug, let's start with the trump indictments. as a former prosecutor, what ar your thoughts on that case, an the bravery of manhattan d alvin bragg to follow throug on this investigation in the face of tremendous pressure?

>> well, you know, reverend al sharpton - i think -- a lot of pressure. -- the best way to go he is going to face a barrag of motions to dismiss and othe things. and i am sure that h is going to be prepared to mee these. we will see how it turn out, but i'm sure he has don his homework to meet the moment >> carlos, a lot of republican have defended trump since we have learned about the indictments. but i want to tal about this tweet from th governor of your home state of florida. ron desantis hits on all the usual talking points about weaponization of the legal system and george soros. but he also goes out of his way to say florida would not assist i any extradition requests. th thing is, rags offers wa already in contact with trump'

lawyer about a surrender plan. and there was no serious suggestive extradition whatever takes place her hearing your thoughts when you hear this, that already starte negotiating for the surrender. and desantis comes, out i will not extradite donald trump what is going on here? >> well, reverend, this is a reminder of the trump trappe that every single republican faces. ron desantis is a man who has been under assault b donald trump. donald trump has been traveling all over th country, bashing him in a very public and in a very aggressiv way. yet, ron desantis still feels compelled to check the box with the trump base to defend donald trump and to try to get back into great great good graces with that. because he has had a difficult last fe weeks. so, despite the fac that desantis has been the object of trump's criticisms because of the power and the strength of trump's. base.

basically because of the fea that republicans have when the look at trump's base, he fel compelled to come out and issu this defense of trump that, as you said, wasn't reall relevant >> doug, keep that prosecutors hat on for a moment. forme president trump is also bein investigated by fulton count georgia prosecutors for possible 2020 election interference. and, dual probes by the justice department. one looking into the mishandling o classified documents, and th other examining trump's action on january six. now, some have suggested these other case involved more serious allege crimes than the stormy daniels payoff. but, if you are in district attorney brags' position, you can't really tak these other cases into account can you? >> no, you can't absolutely not, rev. and the fact is, everybody -

[inaudible looking independently from eac other. they are looking at the facts, and the law on thei particular jurisdictions. an the fact of the matter is, thi is not a political issue. ther is only one person that go themselves into this position, and that is donald j trump. he is the one that committe whatever acts may or may not b actionable. and when you d that, you have got you eithe pay the consequences, or a least have the facts investigated. and that is what is happening here. and eac prosecution, each investigation, will stand on their own merits not in conjunction with -- >> carlos, if more trump indictments come down anothe cases, will that promp republicans to rally around hi even further, or could his defenders eventually hit a breaking point >> reverend, i think that of all donald trump's sins, of al of the since he has committe in recent u. s. history, tha one that we are dealing with

now is probably the leas relevant to the national interest. and also, th smallest. compared to januar 6th and any involvement that h had there. certainly compare to allegations about his involvement and trying t overturn the 2020 election. so i do think that it was easie for republicans to come out an defend trump the way som democrats did back for bil clinton in 1998 when there was a case about infidelity and al of that. that lewinsky case. so, i think this was easier fo republicans. i think it will get progressively harder if we see georgia prosecutors and th doj issue indictments agains trump for assaults against our institutions. that is when i think you will especially see lot of senate republican coming out and distancin themselves from trump. >> all right, i have to leav it there, doug jones and carlo

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the former president. joinin me now is chesley maddox-dorsey, chief executive officer of the american urban radio network which is celebrating its 50t anniversary. thank you for joining us today. >> thank you so much, reverend al sharpto for having me. >> first, i want t congratulate you and you organization on halfway centur of important work. we are goin to talk about that more. but i am curious about your reaction to the historic indictment o the former president donal trump. >> it's really a sad da when we get to this point. this is really unprecedented and quite shocking that we hav led to our democracy down this path. or allowed him to lead our democracy down this path so, it is a tense time for all of us, but have no fear. we ar going to cover it as we always have. with the truth >> now, former president trump has a long history of bullying and press and inspiring hi

supporters to do the same, especially during journalist of color i remember back in 2018 when trump attacked april ryan, who at the time with your whit house bureau chief, and ha been there many times. calling her quote, nasty, and a loser, and threatening to revoke he white house press credentials. we are seeing something simila with his attack on alvin bragg trump doesn't like anyone wh dares to hold him to account but he seems to have a special level of contempt if they ar black or brown. your thoughts? >> i think that is absolutel true. but, you know, our black journalists including the apri ryan, have dealt with that their entire careers. in fact, it is one of the reasons the went into journalism, is to be able to tell the truth. an tell these stories. i mean back from when ida b. wells wa doing that, all the way throug alice done again this is a constant barrage and attack that we have had to

face. but, it has not stoppe as in fact i have think it has made a stronger and more committed to the process >> trump has also had a record of attacking women. he calls stormy daniels horse fac throughout the hush mone investigation. trump also has long nickname for new york attorney general letitia james calling her peekaboo, a raging maniac, a leftist nut job. and now we just celebrated women's history month. and i know you are committed t elevating female journalists specifically women of color. how should we be responding to trump's boorish behavior >> well, we have, fortunatel for the american urban radio networks, we have the suppor of black community and fai minded people everywhere. which, is a larger number than an other group. by the way. so, w don't really subscribe t nonsense. we just do our work, and elevate our people, elevat

our communities, and hope that we get the right results wit fair minded people. which, again, is a majority of people in this country. this is a little bit of a unfortunat sideshow for us. but it just makes us more committed, and i tells us where our north sta is >> now, let's talk about the american urban radio network which has brought the news t black america for half of th century. i also am a radio guy i do commentaries on the network. i have my own radio shows, 16 on air hours eac week. and in commemoration o this anniversary, can you spea to the impact that america urban radio networks has made? >> thank you so, in 1973 when sid small and jean jackson formed this network, we had 80 affiliates. it was called a national black network at the time. and i might add, 1973 was a very

momentous year that was th year of roe v. wade. that was year we pulled out of vietnam. and that is also the year that the justice department filed a suit against one of the trum organizations for racial discrimination under the fai housing act. and, we would hav reported on all of those thing from a perspective and a level of interest for africa americans. fast forward, o probably not a fast forward. but 50 long years later, w have grown to the point wher we are the number one nielse rated network targeting africa americans. we have 40 millio weekly listeners, and 6000 affiliates. so it has been a long journey and a lon process. but that is come long way. and in, celebratio of women's history month we ar going to be doing announcing we have an out some interestin things. we are doing a podcast on betsy coleman. again, jus elevating another female hero. of course, you know we have th

50th anniversary of hip-ho coming up right around the corner. but we are doing mor with gaming. and so we are continuing to expand because our north star is ou community. and the connectio we have with our community and and that is what propels. an any of the other side show stuff >> when we congratulat you in the whole team. chesley maddox-dorsey, happy anniversary to america urban radio networks thanks for being with us our final thoughts after the break. you can't always prevent what's going on outside... that's why qulipta® helps what's going on inside. qulipta® gets right to work. in a 3-month study, qulipta® significantly reduced monthly migraine days and the majority of people reduced them by 50 to 100%. qulipta® blocks cgrp a protein believed to be a cause of migraines. qulipta® is a preventive treatment for episodic migraine. most common side effects are nausea, constipation, and tiredness. learn how abbvie could help you save on qulipta®. ♪♪

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journeyed to richmond, virginia, in my capacity as head o national action network to d the eulogy for ivor otieno, wh is a mental health patient having an episode his mother called for help, and when th sheriff's deputy came, the brought him to a healt facility and they all piled on him and smothered him to death causing this unarmed man, wh biden was handcuffed and shackled, to die. and we wil be standing with that family and attorney ben crump i fighting for justice for irv otieno and to deal with laws that protect mental health episodes and people with menta health issues to be dealt with by mental health people, not b law enforcement who are no trained in that area. and, o tuesday, as we watch wha

happens with donald trump, i will also be thinking abou tuesday, april 4th as the 55th anniversary and th assassination of dr. marti luther king junior, his so martin luther king iii and his daughter-in-law will be with u on the show tomorrow night. think about, even as trump i arraigned that day, that it is a black prosecutor in georgi and in new york handling his case. something dr. king would have fought for. for them to b in position to do what the feel is right and just. that does it for me, thanks for watching. i will see you bac here tomorrow, at 5 pm eastern for another live hour of politicsnation. more coverag of the trump indictment is a the top of the hour.

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symone sanders-townsend, in fo alicia menendez. and we begin this hour with historic moment and a test for the american justice system, a chance to prove no one is abov the law, even a former president who spent decade working to escap accountability and all those years of outrunning the law, they might soon be over for donald trump. on tuesday, trump was set to appear before a new york judge in a case over alleged hus money to silence adult fil star stormy daniels before the 2016 election. this afternoon