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year ago that will do it for me on this in - i see you again tomorrow at pm and next saturday noo eastern, my friend yasmi vossoughian is waiting here to take it away ♪ ♪ ♪ >> hey, everybody. good to see you. good afternoon i am yasmin vossoughian fo you. just 48 hours away from hi arraignment, and a big new announcement from donald trump in the past few hours. plans for a big speech following his court hearin tuesday. this as a kennedy is tightenin around the manhattan - authorities prepare fo protests and democrats and republican debating what this means for the country. >> it's a very sad time fo america. i feel like other people deserve salad for our countr to have to go through this >> it's one thing when you hav a cancel culture, it's another when you have a cancel crimina justice system >> and the trump -

remaining fiercely loyal >> brogdon have a chance, he's using politics as a weapon it is all made up. >> we will have more of th good liars talking to trum supporters ahead also this hour, the republican response, the latest schoo shooting they get points for honesty, when tennessee lawmakers sayin they can't fix it. apparently, they are not eve going to try we are also keeping an eye o the growing death toll fro this weekend's tornadoes live report on that coming u as well. we begin, though, with the former president of the united states, donald trump, still in florida this afternoon gearing up to travel to ne york tomorrow. a short time ago, trum announcing he will in fact deliver remarks from mar-a-lag tuesday night after he returns from his arraignment nbc correspondent vaughn hillyard is on this for us and joining us from west palm beac near mar-a-lago. vaughn, as always great to tal

to you the former president has certainly not been planning to go quietly, as they say. what can we expect in th coming days? >> right if this social media posts ove the last couple of days are an indication, he intends to tr to play this out in the cour of public opinion. it's good to be a question o whether donald trump will go o the witness stand in his trial or not, his own former attorne general suggested that h should not because bill barr's own words, he has no sel control. this is a decision the defense team will have to look at. for donald trump, he announced a moment ago that on tuesday when he returns from tha arraignment in new york city he's going to deliver primetim remarks right here at hi private residence, mar-a-lago. but for the likes of joe tacopina, who is representin donald trump here in thi particular new york case here, he is flooding the airwaves, trying to set up a pretrial or prearrangement defense for the former president

one question he did answer earlier today was the question of whether he would try to hav this case moved out of lower manhattan. i will - the former president suggested this judge overseeing this cas does not fare, listen to tacopina responding to thi question >> you know, i have no issue with this judge whatsoever >> your client does. >> but my client has a right t question everything. he's been politicall persecuted, make no mistak about that i have no reason to believ this - i've never been before him o this matter. we have to witness in th process play out >> the judge is not naive to the public remarks that donald trump is making. of course, there is conversation to be had about the potential gag order. the -- undercut the district attorney alvin bragg and his social media post over the last hours including one that says thes charges are, quote, assault on the nation, are an indicatio

of him trying to garner suppor to galvanize it among millions of americans here fo everything that happens outsid the courtroom. yasmin, to note, nbc and other news organizations hav petitioned the court, the judge, to allow cameras inside th courtroom for thes proceedings. normally that is not the cas for new york but it is for the purpose of trying to allow this to play out for all the public to watc in realtime. >> vaughn hillyard for us, a always, good to talk to you. for more on this, i want t bring in karen, friedman agnifilo, former chief assistant da at manhattan da's office, a top aide to former d cyrus vance. thanks for joining us on this, karen. we appreciate it i think the overarchin thinking on this is, alvin bragg better have a pretty strong case if he is indicted, the former president of th united states. we are looking at what we have seen to be 34 counts are, so w don't know what those will be.

what do you think about that notion and the prospect of the strength of this case? >> obviously, until we see the indictment, we know exactl what the charges are and the evidence supporting the charges, which we think we might have some indication of that when the charges are filed becaus there will be a statement of facts or a speaking indictment that is published because this is a case of great publi interest after that, many people will b able to comment further on the strength of the case let's just remember that thi was a case that was brought by the southern district agains michael cohen for exactly thes payments they certainly felt the case was strong enough to bring against michael cohen. they also said - talked about individual number one who we now know is donal trump. i believe that alvin bragg knows that he cannot bring thi case unless it is a strong case he felt it was a strong case

after he continue to investigate it once he becam district attorney a year and a half ago and continued the investigations here. >> i want to play for you th interview, part of the interview that cy vance ha with jen psaki a little bi earlier on today when asked as to why he did no prosecute this case originally when he was a da, let's take a listen to what he had to say and then we will tour. >> the southern district of ne york, at the same time a ourselves in the distric attorney's office in manhattan we're looking at the so-called hush money payment issue then we heard from these southern district of new yor that they asked us to stan down by standout, i mean they wer communicating that they ha this ongoing investigation and wished that we put our efforts on hold while they completed their investigation. obviously, that was discretionary call by me

whether or not to do that. but i think it was entirel appropriate. >> he went on to say that he was actually surprised, th southern district did no pursue the matter after cohen' guilty plea. what do you make of that is there a way and that alvi bragg could use this as defense against the claims the former president's attorneys are continuing to make >> it was very common, eve under the prior da before cyru vance, very common that and th southern district, a federal prosecutor that sits i manhattan and the manhatta da's office, obviously, that sits in manhattan, that we would bump into each other occasionally because we investigated whit collar crime and so did they and other types of matters typically, we would work it ou amongst each other as which on made more sense to handle th case sometimes it was, okay, your investigation is much furthe

along. sometimes it's your laws are stronger or you have different evidentiary type decisions it is usually something worked out among offices. and that's not unusual that th southern district would sa here this was a federa election, we already have an ongoing investigation. we will take this one. that happens and happened here obviously. >> real quick here, if you would, karen, timing of this whole thing, after the arraignment, when you expect this trial to play out >> normally i would say it's about a year-ish, give or take depending. but i think we know that donal trump, one of his tactics is t delay. so he will avail himself o every possible motion he can make to make this case, both ones meritorious and potentially ones that ar frivolous, but that are brough to try and delay the way he ha

in other court cases across th country. so i think the judge knows who donald trump is, he has seen that he has been held in contempt and sanctioned fo bringing frivolous motions before he will keep him under control that being said, for example one of the claims he is making his he cannot get a fair trial one of the people making it so he can't get a fair trial is himself because he continues t talk about it. he needs to -- if he wants this case an jurors not to have information outside of the courtroom, he has to stop talking, his lawyers have to stop talking it'll be interesting to see of judge marchand puts a gag orde on the parties given his claim that he cannot get a fair trial, given the amount of publicity. again, he is creating the very publicity he's complaining about. we will see what the judge doe here >> thank you so much

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what do you see? >> the storm making -- one hard-hit town to another which is why i am joining yo on the phone the damage, i can tell, it was so devastating and harsh, th roads are rebuilt, the boat -- it feels like an insurmountabl path homes just reduced to rubble roofs ripped off - arkansas is far from alone i the devastation. at least 30 people were killed in severe storms across seve different states a magnitude of the fem administrator, who is on the ground here, called a store ic in my conversation with her. -- pushed eastward yesterda spawning two different tornadoes in new jersey an delaware we've concerned one person practically killed in delaware that is the first tornad fatalities since the 80s jasmine. >> emily, thank you so much. we appreciate it, i want t bring in - in indiana

these tornadoes are really kin of making their way across the country. just devastating in areas there, as you can see behind me jessie if you will, what are yo seeing >> yasmin, this is what is lef of an area of about 30 to 40 homes and other buildings were obliterated by this storm. you can see this home has been coming through the roof is sheared off. there is debris everywhere if we walk down the street, yo get an idea of the power o these winds. look at the history. uprooted and on its side car after car over here, yasmin, with windows shattered, pushed over to the side you can see there are markings on them, spray painted marking -- in this community, we are told three people lost their lives. when you look at the scope o the devastation here and a number of homes now unlivable, it is kind of remarkable t think that only three people lost their lives, a total of five people, according t

officials, have lost their lives because of tornadoes i indiana. the national weather service i preliminarily saying wha happened here in selvin, indiana, was believed to be an ef3 tornado with peak wind gusts at 155 miles per hour. officials here as well a volunteers are going through this community now we've been offered food, we've been offered snacks and water, that is something that's being offered tug to - community members as well. there are people sitting out i their yards, other people in the middle of cleaning as well that's what's going on her right now. cleanup, also this concern i this community, yasmin, abou more bad weather potentially coming through in the days ahead. this is a community that certainly does not need that a this time, yasmin. >> emily ikeda as well, than you guys both. appreciate it. new information, everybody, on that u.s. reporter under arres in russia accused of spying. a short time ago, secretary of state tony blinken talking wit the russian foreign minister calling for the immediat release of evan gershkovich.

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petersburg, russia reuters reporting that a well-known russian militar blogger -- was killed by a bomb blast i eight st. petersburg café today. if it was deliberate, it would be the second assassination on russian soil in a figure closely succeeded with the war in ukraine - took part in a kremlin ceremon celebrating the -- last september, we will brin you the latest as we get it. security preparations are well underway in anticipation o donald trump's arraignment i new york on tuesday. the nypd has ordered all of it 36,000 officers to report in

full uniform ramping up police presence outside of the courthouse in lower manhattan where trump is expected as well as outside of trump tower. officials saying they ar preparing for protests fro both pro and anti trump crowds joining us is dermot shea, served as new york police city commissioner from 2019 to 2021 commissioner shea, thanks fo joining us on this, we appreciate it. if you will, talk us through what you can, the preparations that are going into making sur the city remains secure, especially with the threats we are seeing out there i anticipation of the arraignmen of the former president. >> it is certainly unprecedented times. i think what you just relate to in terms of having th officers report for duty i uniform being available, and that is fairly standar precautionary in nature, something the department would regularly do that is just really to mak sure that the maximum number o officers are available

as a precaution, shoul anything happen. i don't foresee that that is going to be the case particularly on tuesday if wha you read is accurate i would think that we are in the early stages of uncharted territor and i expected to ratchet up a the process goes farther along >> okay. let's draw in that if we can for a moment what i'm hearing from you as you don't necessarily expect for things to go down in a big way come tuesday considering what we've seen so far, despite the fact we'v heard calls for protests fro congresswoman marjorie taylo greene and others as well, protesting is one thing, but what happened on january 6th i another thing. a lot of the country i watching this and wondering if something like that will happe again. however, it seems like you hav a real worry about what is t come as we head towards a tria for the former president and i that, how do you prepare for something like that? >> i wouldn't make light o

this certainly, the nypd and thei partners in the federa authorities will lock that are down i will expect everything tha has been said thus far, a bi of a circus atmosphere undoubtedly protests on both sides. when you look at the grand scheme of things, in terms o the beginning of a marathon, i you will, there will be many appearances, ultimatel culminating, potentially, in a lengthy trial. something like this ha obviously never happened before i think what would cause me th most concern is we are in such a volatile time, as we all know, for the last number of years where it has become a countr of extremes. as you have the ratcheting u as this moves further into the process, how does that impac individuals? setting up barricades an having a procedure take plac

is one thing but preventing the unknown i think is what would cause me concern in the law enforcement side of things right now how does this impact the lon wolf, if you will? i think we all know that's wha is really the concern here all you need is one person o either side to do somethin that could have drasti implications >> commissioner, let me ask yo this you were in the top spot in on of the more controversial time in the last few years. that was certainly the summe protests of 2020, marching for black lives matter there were many interactions many run-ins between bot police and protesters as well, some getting more violent than they should have what lessons did you learn fro that moment? >> i think when you look bac on 2020, i think of this a potentially an opening up of

the scab, thankfully coming out of 2020 and tha summer and heading into th presidential election, certainly, there was a lot o planning, a lot of keeping the lid on the city. but also healing as i'm listening to your question, really, that is what my mind goes back to, trying t heal this city, possibly the country at that point and brin to gather the people as we move to the 2 to 3 years from now, this has the potential to really, in my mind, bring out the extremism we hea on both sides. >> let's hope not. former nypd police commissioner, dermot shea, we thank you. coming up, everybody, a ne face in the presidential race. the former governor who just entered the field and says trump should be out followin his indictment from that case to the doj's an

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top republicans on the hill ar promising everything is on the table when it comes to the demands. manhattan da alvin bragg testified before congress, w want to get right to nbc's julie tsirkin on capitol hill, also -

we can project senior visor. welcome to you about let me start things off with you, julie, if i can what are you hearing today fro republicans, especially abou alvin bragg ahead of this majo week for the former president? >> yeah, yasmin, we heard from two of the three house gop chairman investigating manhattan da alvin bragg somebody that chairman jim jordan of the judiciar committee calls, quote, a left wing sorrows back didier this investigation was calle for by none other than kevin mccarthy, the speaker of the house. the two men, chair jim jorda and chair of the administratio committee bryan steil, where o fox today talking about thei investigations saying nothin is off the table it is something they are describing as politicall motivated as they lineup and rally behind the forme president, echoing these trope we are hearing from th far-right corners of the republican party in thei descriptions of the district attorney i want you to take a listen to what they laid out today i

terms of next up as they trade letters back and forth wit bragg who called thi investigation, quote, excuse me, attempting to denigrate th integrity of the investigation watch. >> we, three different committees, are trying to ge information and answers two ke questions from distric attorney brag. everything is on the table maria. we will talk with the othe chairman and look at the response we just got a leather back we are looking at it >> we can do to keep things. we can get the information t the american, people get the facts on the table, as m colleague jim jordan says. number two, what we need to do then is look at it substantive legislative reform >> yasmin, that substantiv legislative reform style i referring to there involve using congresses power of th purse. it is something we heard befor in terms of weaponizatio investigations jordan's leadin separately in the judiciar committee, threatening t withhold federal funds fro agencies they view a politically motivated.

that includes this da who, b the way, in the latest respons to the committee chairman, sai he did not use any federal grants for this investigatio into the former president. >> all right, julie, i will le you get to it. thank you. tara, who deems these agencies politically motivated? who is that actually up to it's not like this would be bipartisan committee, right, and deciding a decision by d alvin bragg was politicall motivated. it would be house republican making that decision, no matte what evidence was heard. >> that is correct this is a pattern fo republicans. if you go back to the days whe i was on capitol hill, benghaz was big, investigative issues. republicans made that very political. kevin mccarthy himself mentioned this is why he did not -- one of the many reasons why he did not become speaker in 2015 he let it out of the bag tha benghazi was about a political investigation into hillary clinton, her presidentia

chances. republicans are very good at this they claim one thing when they are actually doing what they claim to despised. the idea of weaponizing th government, the weaponizatio committee, these committee will get to the bottom of it this is everything tha happened under the trump administration everything republicans fel they had not no problem when trump was doing it it also reflects how elections have consequences. republicans said they would do this if they took the hous back and they are doing it. people need to pay attention and not to be, you know, desensitized to what these republicans are doing. they have almost n jurisdiction over what's happening with alvin bragg i new york if the rules had been reversed republicans would be the first ones claiming separation o powers, tenth amendment, state rights, et cetera, oversteppin what they are doing, this is clearly an over step but the don't care because they ar doing it for their own gain. >> you bring up election having consequences. we could be looking at a 202

in which you have a leadin candidate for president of the united states, donald trump, o trial, possibly convicted an winning an election. i mean, that is a scenario tha could play out, right? it's mind-blowing to think of. asa hutchinson, governor o arkansas, likely going to be throwing his hat in the ring wanting -- he's announced officially he will be throwing his hat in th ring, wanting donald trump t drop out of the race because o all that has happened with indictments, right is there a lane for someon other than trump with thes indictments? >> not no, but held no god bless asa hutchinson, bles his heart. i don't know what lane h thinks he is in. it is clear, if you look a republican primary voters, donald trump is the guy. if ron desantis can't make headway, that's who th establishment things is th

second guy that will take trum out, how is his book tour going? it's not going very well because people don't want him, no matter how maga he tries to disguise himself they don't want him. so asa hutchinson saying tha trump, trying to take the mora high ground position sayin trump should drop out, i mean, the 1990s called and they want their politics back. that is not today's republican party. that is not today's politics there is no shame with these people people like asa hutchinson don't really have th constituency that maybe enough to fit in a canoe. they are only going to hel trump win the primary. it's winner take all trump has doubled his lead against desantis who was the real one then you have other people wit vanity candidacies that will only help trump win th nomination again the general is a different story. for the primary, it is trump's to lose. >> tara setmayer, as always, i is great to talk to. you thank you.

>> thank you >> let's go back to breaking i we are following, everybody. out of russia we are getting reporting about a well-known russian military bloggers bein killed in a bomb blast nbc foreign correspondent matt brower is on this for us that, if you will, what are we learning >> we just saw this today. it was the death of a man name vladlen tatarsky that. his real name is maxim fomin what we are learning is this café was hit by what looke like some sort of bomb blasts. there were more than a dozen people injured the only death, so far, that w are hearing from officia russian sources, is this blogger. talk about a blogger, we are talking about what we call her in ukraine or russia a mil blogger. this is an actual community of people who have almost a official increasingly official ties to the russian government in which they are party to information they get from th russian government they've also been increasingly

critical of russia's performance in this war, thi disastrous invasion and that i now going on about 13 months into where i am now here i ukraine. this man, tatarsky, he i notorious for a comment he mad last year, that was helped b vladimir putin to commemorat the annexation of four provinces that he said basically, we will defea everyone, we will kill everyone, we will rob everyone a necessary, just as we like it. this is the kind of bellicos rhetoric a lot of ukrainians have gotten used to hearin from this mill blogger community. there are people who are bot incredible champions of the war, russia's war in ukraine, but a the same time, they are very critical and actually tatarsky said last, year he criticized, slammed the top brass of russi as untrained idiots. it's unclear who calls of this this is something we will hear in the next couple of hours or days >> matt bradley for us, than

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nashville for the victims of last week's school shooting. one of those is nine year ol evelyn - known for her infectious laugh family said their goodbyes jus yesterday. the emotional farewell comin after a protest erupted at the tennessee state capital last week, where prospects fo stricter gun laws appeared dim in - the nashville mother who organized the protest spoke to msnbc. >> it's really obvious when th shootings started. it was after the assault ban expired. they act like they cannot do anything about it. as a mother, i can't sleep a night and i am in tears ever time i think about my son at school by himself. >> joining me now is tennessee state representative and democrat john ray clemmons, th chairman of tennessee hous democrats. thanks for joining us on the representative clemmons, w appreciate it. the lieutenant governor is

proposing increased security making windows, for instance bulletproof. we know the shooter entered th covenant school from the sid doors, blasting through thos glass doors, crawling throug and then making their way up t the second floor, where they kill those six individuals three of them young children red flag laws, it seems, lieutenant governor, is also open to as well. what is the plan and actuall changing things and gettin something done >> first of, all thank you for having me on today we are still reeling here in nashville. our community is hurting we are working through this, leadership on both sides of th aisle has been in conversation and trying to find commo ground on this issue i really appreciate this wee former governor -- democrat and republican issued a statement in a piece calling on us to fulfill the legacy of

senator howard baker, republican and said, you know, we need to find firmer groun on issues, find something smal we can work together on. we are the divided on this whole topic. we are working through a lot o issues across the aisle. red flag laws are certainl something we should be looking at and we are pushing for it right now. we are looking through - people to take persona responsibility for their fir arms we hear a lot of talk on the republican side of the aisle about personal responsibilit and while it matters, i thin that applies to firearms a well we are working through this. i hope my colleagues across th aisle are more than just talk. i'm wanting to see some action on their part. we are willing, as democrats to meet in the middle and even you know, make the smalles progress possible, whatever we can do to effect change an protect our children as a father of three small

children in elementary and middle school here in nashvill who are in school less than mile down the road from th shooting, this is obviously traumatic event. it happens to communitie across every state this one is certainly stil fresh in our mind. i hold out hope that it will result in change in some policy >> what is working through thi looking like i ask you this because i was o the ground in nashville the da the shooting happens i made my way from mississippi to over there. speaking to folks on the ground, i have been at these schoo shootings before i'm a parent, you are a parent parents are scared to send their kids to school, right? red flag laws, for instance, w know the shooter is bein treated for an emotional disorder we don't know what tha disorder was we know that the parents of th shooter knew the suspect actually had a gun in thei position they knew they had a gun i their possession a red flag law, for instance

could have worked in tha scenario had they told police, right? that's an important part o this story are those the types of conversations you are having with your colleagues across th aisle to get them on board for real change that can make difference >> yes, absolutely that's the very conversation w are having behind closed doors and in public settings really, there is a stron unwillingness across the aisle to even do anything on thi issue. after the uvalde shooting, i called for a special session because our legislature was no in session at that time. i didn't even get a courtesy o a response from the governor o legislative leaders across the aisle. right now, we are in legislative session. we have the opportunity to d something. the red flag laws certainly, according to the publi information, they would have made a difference. it's important to remember red flag laws, the real intent o

those and the spirit of thos laws is to protect someone fro themself in this instance, it would'v not only protected and the murderer, who, unfortunately literally lived four block from where i am sitting righ now, from my own house, an would've not only protecte those children and those innocent victims, it would'v protected her. that's a conversation we are having the facts are what matter here it's not the rhetoric, it's no the political gains man ship it's the facts if we focus on the facts and what will make a difference to protect our children, i hope w can make progress. that's what we have got to cut through this, all the nonsense and just really, you know, hav thoughtful conversations and take action. but, you know, immediately we cannot wait like you said, you attended to many school shootings. one is too many. you've been to multiple. >> i sure have tennessee state representative john ray clemmons, thank you

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those smiles. that's why i do what i do. >> well, folks, it happened, i that and the paycheck. got indicted, or as i smell it indicated. frankly, it is time and that i come clean, admit i broke th law and go quietly to prison april fools! the radical left democrats are doing to me is worse than an crime i've ever committed, and i've committed a lot, close to 34 >> snl there, comedian james austin johnson doing what th show does best ahead of tuesday, when the former president show up for his arraignment i manhattan. joining me to talk about this, katie phang, host of the katie phang show here on msnbc

i will be outside th courthouse on tuesday, monda and tuesday, anchoring ahead o this arraignment good luck. >> i will be looking for wha are you going to be watching for? >> two major things. when the indictment is unsealed, i'm going to look, one, at whether there is a narrative provided by brags office and indictment is a charging document, a toss the defendant these are the charges, the statute violated some indictments have a story, kind of like here is wha you've done wrong, and the here are the charges that yo are facing i would like to see what narrative they are using fro bragg office what is the underlying story here number two, what is the crim i'm calling the kicker falsification of busines records in the state of ne york is typically a -- we know there's a felony, at least one, you've got to hav another crime. what is it is it tax fraud? campaign finance violations? inserts fraud? what is it that is the

secondary fence that kicks i to being a felony? that's what we are all interested in seeing, frankly. that gives you an idea o what's going to be the strengt of the defense that is being brought by donald trump. is there a statue of limitations problem? is there something that's goin to affect the strength of brag case that's what we will see thos bases of paper >> what are your expectation of the charge that would kic it up to a felony, from what w know >> it is the hush money pain here's the other thing, is i just stormy daniels or does it include karen mcdougal, wh also was negotiating the hus money payment as well. the campaign finance violation are the biggest deal the most direct link to th falsification of the busines record the other thing is, are ther 30 counts, 34 counts, what i the basis for each and every one of those counts? >> how big of a witness do you think michael cohen's and wa to their case? do you think that is a problem for trial? >> he is a critical key main witness, why stormy daniels did not

negotiate anything when it comes to business records. even more so, eyes and weisselberg, for example, is more important and then stormy daniels would be because he' the one who actually assiste in the falsification of thos documents. michael cohen's credibility, like any witness, this is what i want to emphasize, and h witnessed, whether a cop, victim, a civilian, an eyewitness, they are going t have the credibility be an issue. that is why there is a jur instruction that is read to th jury at the conclusion of th civil or criminal jury trial before the jury goes t deliberate cohen is like any other witnes in this case the more important thing is, can you trust him because he i a flip can you trust him because he previously, you know, did time for a campaign finance violations my answer, who best to know th extent of the crime then the person who was in the room >> michael cohen at this point has nothing to lose. >> and all have his statements have been tested, though yasmin when you think about everything he said has bee tested, meaning he has said it over and over again. is he going to b

cross-examined of course. i do think he has credibilit that's intact. >> we ask about the specia airing tonight, very excited ahead of asian america heritage month, it is titled o the culture is aapi, women tal to me. what's in it what can we expect incredibly excited for it. >> frank, honest conversatio by a group of icons in trail blazers from the aapi communit that we are willing to sit down, let their hair down, and have very, very transparent conversation about relationships, professiona journeys, what struggles they've had, and whether or no they really fit in are we still a part of where w came from in terms of ou countries and our cultures or are we totally assimilate into the american culture no that we don't have the tight deep roots we used to have >> i love this all of these series, all these conversations have been so incredibly honest and it's important for women, especiall women of color to be hones about their journey in order for all of us to move forward. >> i think so. >> and rise as well. >> i want people to watch it

and leave and say, i had tha journey as well. it's not just the a i p -- >> thank you, as always. i'm going to be seeing you a lot over the next couple o days >> you will be >> of course, you can watch th katie phang show airing at saturdays -- her special, as we just spok about, the culture is aapi begins at 10 pm eastern tonigh on msnbc and streaming o peacock as well. before that, at 6 pm eastern you've got your work cut out for you, girl, she joins our special coverage on trump' indictment led by -- you see the panel right there. all-star panel that does it for me in the first hour of the yasmin vossoughian reports. we will keep rolling here. our next hour starts right now ♪ ♪ ♪ >> hey, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian if you are just joining us welcome. if you are sticking with us, w thank you for that we continue to follow th breaking news. a rising death toll an

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