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you may not have not heard anywhere else, and why so many people, even in the -- we will set the record straight then, taking apart the dangers of antisemitic attacks o manhattan da alvin bragg and george soros and later, one democrat chos the rest of his party how to get angry on gun violence an school shootings and why tha anger matters. >> good evening. i am mehdi hasan we have all heard it it is unprecedented. it is shocking to see. a taboo has been broken. the indictment of donald trump by a grand jury in manhattan's impending arraignment in les than 48 hours has less - including for many liberals, about how rubicon has been crossed when it comes to dealing with former presidents how this can open the doors to endless political persecutions of former presidents going forward. so tonight, i have one simpl

message for everyone following the story, especially for my fellow journalists we have her entire framing o this indictment wrong. in fact, earned her approach t this indictment is missing the forest for the trees because you know what is reall shocking and unprecedented not the indictment of th former president first and goa crime, but the sheer number of crimes that this forme president is currently being investigated for there is this indictment i manhattan, possibly fo campaign finance laws involvin hush - who is accused of having had a affair with, something h denies but we don't know. none of us has seen th indictment yet leah. there's also the da in fulto county, georgia, investigating trump for trying to overturn the presidential election. and the special counsel at the justice department investigating both trump's mishandling of classifie documents and his rule - you want unprecedented that is what is unprecedented. not trying to hold the accountable for it in terms of alleged criminality,

he looks - and so look, if you judge trum by the standard of ordinar citizens, which is the standar he should be drugged by, in functional democracy with th rule of law, by the way, i should add, and ordinary citizen is what trump is right now. what is shocking is that it ha taken so many decades to actually get around to indicting donald trump i mean, how has this not happened before? this is a man who firs appeared on the front page o the new york times almos exactly 50 years ago in octobe 1973 he and his landlord father wer being investigated by the nixo justice department for discriminating against black renters. and, in doing so, violating th fair housing act but the trumps settled out o court and got away with it and the donald just kept settling in just kept gettin away with it for the next five decades. this is a man who, along wit his businesses, according to a analysis - prior to him becoming president, was involved in at least 300

500 legal actions in federal and state courts during th past three decades indeed, the sheer volume o lawsuits as usa lawsuits - unprecedented for presidential nominee yeah that is what is unprecedented. rather than focusing on ho former - and thereby playing into his supporters games in th process. we should be focusing on how nor formal president has bee accused of the sheer number of crimes he has been accused of. we should be focused on how fe people in america, let alone former presidents, have spen five decades being accused o lawless behavior but never facing any real lega consequences as political scientist set basket wrote on twitter this week, is it shocking for forme president to be indicted sure is it shocking a guy named i literally thousands of cases over the past half century would be indicted? not so much. it took manhattan da and manhattan grand jury to do wit the justice department under

bill barr wouldn't do. it took a manhattan da and manhattan grand jury to do wit the justice department under merrick garland still hasn't done on tuesday, the twice impeached, now indicted ex president will turn himself into prosecutor in downtown mount hatton a 2:15 pm. authorities say there's no pla to put trump in handcuffs or look even a holding cell but h will be fingerprinted an likely have his mugshot take as all defendants do i criminal cases he will then be escorted int the courtroom while here enter in a pretty almost an lee no guilty after which he's expected to b released on his ow recognizance until another court date is set. while trump is unlikely to mak any public statements doing -- that day because, today isn't campaig announced that he will hop o his private jet and return t mar-a-lago tuesday night t deliver arrive remarks tha same evening look, for far too long we've just taken it for granted that those around trump can go to jail, but not trump itself

in the stormy daniels case michael cohen went to prison but not trump. in the trump organization case allen weisselberg was convicte but not trump. when it came to russia and the mother investigation, paul manafort was put behind bars but not trump. he is tough london he is not -- up until now -- bill pascrell did on twitter that when it comes to th people he surrounds him self with, -- chief strategist, personal lawyer, deputy campaign chair, campaign cfo, were all convicted of trump crimes bu not trump. no not teflon don up until now as the editor of the new republic pointed out this week he has been a one-man crim wave is in her adult life. the wonder is that it's take this long for him to b indicted yes. yes. exactly. so please don't buy into the right-wing framing of this

indictment, that this is somehow crossing a line. what are shocking is not that former president has bee indicted, what is really shocking is that after all these years, donald trump will finally see the inside of courtroom. let's discuss more with my panel tonight. david henderson, forme prosecutor and civil right attorney he is also cnbc critter bitter -- past politics podcast and th special correspondent fo vanity fair, dina bila, -- sirius xm and the msnbc dail columnist, and danielle moodie host of the podcast wove f -- and the new abnormal thank you for joining me tonight. david, i want to join star with you no one outside the da's office knows what exact charges or th totality of the evidence bragg has. based on what has been mad public, how worried are you as a lawyer about the facts of th case michael cohen isn't exactly an ideal witness and then there's the likelihood that brag felony cases is dependent on a

rather untested legal theory >> here's the thing. we talk about the facts of the case, mattie, if you are his lawyer what you will say i look, they are trying to tak me down and they are desperate to do it the only - is a convicted felon but if you are the prosecuto you far back with what you pointed out in your opening, look, everyone he surround himself with is a convicte felon. that is not my fault -- the company itself got prosecuted there is no one i can bring to you to talk about what happene -- so in that regard, it is difficult. 99% of all cases end u resulting in a plea before the go to trial. my guess is financial crime, i is 99.9 9% so the prosecutors will -- the array of witnesses lik stormy daniels, michael cohen, you have to present, but here' the thing -- yeah >> sorry david, finish you point. >> no, i mean, here it is, you said it already. we can't try away from doing

the right thing just because i is hard. we talk about marginalized people, facing crimina justice. we don't ever have tha conversation -- needs to happen here >> and david, you mentioned, i might not just be michae cohen's testimony. earlier, lanny davis told cn earlier today that - documentation about a trum hush money payment to a second woman who claims to have had a affair with him which he denies that might be a game-changer o the prosecution. does that change the calculu at all >> i think it does i think it changes the way the story will develop in trial. here is the simple truth you and i have high-leve conversations about the law in environments like this and there's a reason why jon grisham is the bestselling author several times over. he - at the crux of the story you have any affair that people tr to cover up, so everybody come forward and introduces yet another set of circumstances involving the exact same thing yes, it will play a role i this trial >> dean, a common refrain i've

been hearing from republican and even those who - contentious relationship wit trump is that the hush money case is so weak, so week it wa upended by cy vance, that wa the argument put forth, even b former trump 2016 rival je bush of course, trump humiliated jab, jobs wife, jobs -- hey, vance would do this have a listen to what van said this morning when he was asked why he didn't prosecute th hush money case. >> i was asked by the u.s. attorney's office in the southern district to stand dow on our investigation, which ha commenced involving the trum organization and as someone who respect that office a great deal and believing that they may have perhaps the best laws to investigate, i did so. and i was so surprised after mr. cohen pleaded guilty, bu the federal government did not proceed now on the areas tha they asked me to stand down on

>> so, the reason the manhatta da pursued the charges because the justice department first under bill barr and then under merrick guilderland refused to act. >> sure. can we just get donald trump i going to be having a netflix crime series at some point season one is new york, season she's fulton county, i can't wait - trump prison commissary. -- show their support - there will be some fun to this can we enjoy that for a moment second, this indictment is going to be so far be a body beyond the stormy daniels mone and so many people in the medi have latched onto that as if that is the truth. -- that is not for stormy daniels and go look at the allen weisselberg indictment, just 1 counts there are numerou felonies in the -- manhattan da brought in the closing argument that the prosecutor told the jury not only did trump's explicitl

sanction tax fraud, thei felony through the don't dea with the election crimes to deal with covering up tax fraud. so i think you are going to se much more, 11 republicans, the are defending it they know what is in the indictment because they thin trump is above the law donald trump is not beloved -- so he is above the law >> what i have left since thir stay is the republicans like mike pence saying it i outrageous it is nonsense -- danielle, even before news o this indictment broke, trump called his supporters to protest telling them to quote, take our nation back these words echo - attack on the capitol. and you know, january 6t partly happened because more enforcement didn't think a bunch of white guys, conservative trump supporter would write in the way the did. and the people who turned up a the ellipse on january 6th loo like you are meeting you'll. maybe -- lessons have been that thi time around? is met and ready from my happe

on tuesday >> yeah. i honestly think that that i another story that isn't being talked about this is the fact that th former president of the united states is having people in new york city, having the police they were all hands on deck. every uniformed officer is there and counted for. they're putting up barricades. what does that tell you? it tells you that this man has incited violence before. and they are preparing to no be caught black footed supposedly, in the way that th d.c. metro police were and the national guard was and that every single other la enforcement who had known, the knew, because these people wer organizing in plain sight. you have these proud boys an oath keepers organizing on facebook it wasn't in the dark web. so you know, reality is that this man has incited violenc before and they want to make sure tha it doesn't happen in new yor city >> yeah. it's a very good point

we all know that he incite violence we know just by the actions of law enforcement. you heard what i had to sa about the right-wing framing o trump's indictment - crossing a line. it is unprecedented. you could open the floodgate for political prosecutions, of other ex presidents in the future wouldn't be more damaging to our country's address that former president is someho immune from legal consequences just because of a job they onc held in particular, someone who i allegedly committing crime even before the white house. >> yeah. i mean, i think as you are seeing in your introduction, there are so many differen malfeasance is that look lik they could lead to rea prostitution from trying t overturn the election, to hi role in january six. this is not one watergate. this is 15 water gates so i do think the the idea tha he can be immune from the la

because he once had a job that he is running for again, i completely - trump has been savvy in the wa that he has made this a case against our american justice system and against the government and he has sort of set the other trump supporters, if you want to support maga you hav to support me. which has helped - >> it has definitely helped hi poll ratings i don't know whether he help his legal case quick question to you. i want to ask you quickly, 6 minutes just aired an intervie with marjorie taylor greene. leslie starr sat down with the infamous georgia congresswoman they put out a promotional - i play a clip in the show, the put out a promotional tweet in which they said they - in your face they are. apparently now, according to our media, being antisemitic being islamophobic, th conspiracy theories is jus being intense and interface. >> unbelievable. and you know, this is currency

the tension is currency. there are hundreds of member of congress many of whom are working hard i won't say all but many o them are working hard and doin great stuff. and they would kill for 60 minutes. so, 60 minutes is using that time to elevate someone who at fastest bad faith actors a worst is - >> a fascist david henderson, thank you ver much for time in analysis. molly, dean, daniel plea stick around we will talk more about gu control with you later thi hour coming up next, attacks on alvin bragg and george soros regional time high a republicans result you racis and antisemitic tropes knowing of donald trump'ins dictment don't go away.

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well, i could switch us to xfinity. those smiles. that's why i do what i do. >> i have no interest in that and the paycheck. getting involved in some typ of manufactured circus by some soros da >> people's-ing faith in the law because the democra party, democrat prosecutors in manhattan and zeroes prosecutor, wants them to lose faith in th law. >> this prosecution or all o them didn't bragg's george sources side >> also, he was a drugstores funded da. so he is maybe listening to hi master george soros was saying we need this done. >> does raise the politica elements like george soros and that made the politica ambition of the manhattan da that to run on this position o indicting the former president

>> point of order. for two men who have never had actually matter spoke to one another, when da alvin bragg and philanthropist george soro -- in the same breath, not an eve more peculiar when you say source has never given a dam t alvin bragg in this democrac pack hasn't even either. -- color of change did then spend $500,000 promoting alvin bragg's candidacy. even they never gave any money to alvin bragg so this isn't just anti-semiti dog whistling about a jewish billionaire, they are not just depicting sources or which jewish puppeteer, they are depicting him as a rich jewish puppeteer patrolling a black man, an animal, quoteunquote as trump disgustingly called the minahan da it is racism squared joining me to discuss all this is peter beinart, -- jewish currents. professor, - political analyst. peter, thanks for coming bac on the show. correct me if i'm mistaken o

not, these gop attacks directe it ragen soros, the do follo along history -- controlling black people do they not? >> yes absolutely because historically, th racist area tape about black people is that they are no capable of running their own affairs. and making their own decisions and the antisemitic stereotype about chooses that user kind o senior stir geniuses, popp masters who control everything so that is why, during a civil rights movement, a lot o segregationist said that the people who are really runnin martin luther king's operation where the jewish communist i is why a lot of people in the south africa that the person really rough running the african national congres wasn't not - party. because the belief that huge has the sinister power in they believe that, the racist belie that black people actually can't make decisions for themselves >> indeed. it is a dark and depressing. peter, take a look this cute

little tweet from rhonda scent -- who says, i will read it out i mentioned george services -- literally antisemitism my new york times gues contributor -- 's finance starkey, but i thin it is right revealing. he did have to apologize for suggesting congress wa controlled by aipac. yet ron scent is and is like he's think it's fine to sa alvin bragg is controlled by george soros there is a complete double standard on the use of antisemitic tropes here. >> yes absolutely i mean, i don't think th rhonda scent is things he is antisemitic, i'm curious lot of jewish presidents, as to lot of folks but they just seem to be willfully blind to the reality that these discussions about george soros is not coming fro an innocent place. look at how victor or mom ha used, george sources fro hungry, look at how viktor oregon has relentlessly used soros to feed into thi

antisemitic stereotype of th kind of jew trying to. destroy the country. look at happened at tree o life synagogue these people have forgotte that the guy who shot up the tree of life synagogue i pittsburgh believed that soros in the hebrew immigrant ai society we're bringing these immigrant caravans, and that i why the attack the synagogue this is not stuff to be played around with. >> which trump and other republicans endorsed at th time, in 2018. the reason why i am not as generous as you when it come to saying i don't think he's been antisemitic, i think it i no we will tell you why let's say george soros was funding alvin bragg, which h isn't. since one republicans not okay with billionaires fundin politicians are lawyers? don't they say money's speech? still they say corporations ar people don't they think it is fine fo billionaires like koch to give their money, charles koch, but not the evil george soros? you have to ask the question what is it about the jewis billionaire that they are problem with >> right certainly they are not opposed to money in politics i think what they are oppose to fundamentally is a kind o

alliance between different groups that have a history o being dispossessed and discriminated against. whether they are jews, or blac americans, were lgbtq. they might come together t push back against the whit christian nationalist assaul on american democracy. and one of the things that makes rhonda santas and frankly, some of ron desantis's jewis friends most upset is that n matter how many times they tried to convince american jew that they should vote for them because they support benjami netanyahu, most american jew actually believe that we are safer if we align with peopl who like us, have a history of discrimination and try to make our country quality for all. >> i will tell you what, peter there is a time when he used t think wow, you could - any other minority, especially the jewish community, if onl people took islamophobia a seriously as we took antisemitism we can't take that say tha anymore. we don't take it seriously

anymore. it is deeply dangerous, in the time we live in right now. -- tree of life synagogue i hope people learn lesson from that. peter beinart, thank you for that your time i appreciate it. >> thank you >> still ahead, we keep talkin about the unprecedented nature of the former u.s. president being in indicted but it is fa from an unprecedented elsewhere, even among other democracies across the world can slow me down. now, skyrizi helps me get going by treating my skin and joints. along with significantly clearer skin, skyrizi helps me move with less joint pain, stiffness, swelling, and fatigue. and skyrizi is just 4 doses a year after two starter doses. skyrizi attaches to and reduces a source of excess inflammation that can lead to skin and joint symptoms. with skyrizi, 90% clearer skin and less joint pain is possible. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms,

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experience yet another terrifi school shooting. a massacre this time in nashville tennessee, where three children, three kids, and three adul staff members were killed. two days later, democratic congressman jamal bowman publicly chastised a republican colleagues for doin nothing on can reform. setting off this intense confrontation with republica thomas massie in the hallway o

the capitol. >> [inaudible] >> morgan's looking -- lead to more death you are looking at the data. look at the data morgan's lead to more death. >> are you listening to what i am saying? i can't calm down. children are dying nine year old children the solution is not to arm teachers have you ever worked at school have you ever worked at school >> three things worth noting one, messi goes on about armin teachers but at least on school staff member was armed, according to reporting from th tennessean to, mass he can't answer a simple question, have you ever worked at a school

bowman is a former teacher himself. massie is not. and three, him telling bowman, a black man, to calm down is a best condescending, at worst racist oh, in bowman's outrage is o course, justified. of course he will come down. he is representing what hi constituents and people across the country are feeling righ now. ridge. a rage americans are justifiably angr about school shootings about the killing of our kids. and all of our lawmakers on th hill should be channeling that anger. and that no, my panel is bac with me. molly, let me start with you arming teachers is the ridiculous gop solution, the same teachers who they don't trust to teach our kids abou american history or se education. we give them guns. >> yeah. they don't trust the teacher to pick the box but they won't have guns. i mean, thomas massie is such good example of this kind of congress person. his whole goal is to make th government small enough so i can be drowned in a bathtub.

he is a person who is really a libertarian and this is such a smog, fake answer. yes, we just want to arm teachers because if we can arm teachers, don't trust them t teach kids, but we trust the to carry weapons in the reason that republicans love this talking point is because they know democrat will never go along with it. so they think they have hit stalemate. >> >> and it is not just arm teachers, we have other, wonderful solutions from the gop. dean florida, rick scott sai they automatic death penalty should apply for schoo shooters but of course, most of them ar dead at the end of the shootings. in this case the shooting wa killed on site clearly, that the dust penalty isn't a deterrent, despite senator scott's galaxy brain take this week >> the big thing, mehdi, the big thing for people t understand is -- deflection for the real issue. every single day in america, today, yesterday, tomorrow five children will die -

there is only 45 shootings i schools last year. 320 other days, kids die fro the guns why? access this easy the states with the most lax gun laws have -- bowman, was a superhero who is channeling anger if you don't give us anger w will get numb and check out. we don't want that we want people to stay engaged they democrats need -- wrote about it repealing in 2005 giving immunity for civil lawsuits fo gun manufacturers. it is unbelievable that that happened president biden talked about it, as a lawyer, civil lawsuit cause company to make thei products can be for, like smar technology for guns -- to make the trigger work that will save lives they won't do anything republicans don't. the rally about repealing that law. that can motivate the people - can strike you down -- immunity from lawsuits >> good point. daniel, in the exchange betwee

bowman and massie, you see democratic congressman form th majority - tempting to hold bowman back he then sullenly walks away. i just noticed, it's not jus republicans who want bowman an others to come down. it is establishment from the democrats to haven't shown sufficient outraged on thi issue in recent years. >> i'm just so tired of th faux civility. did we not see republicans g to blows when they were trying to count the votes for kevin mccarthy the reality is is that mos americans are as angry a representative bowman. they should be children are dying and the republican party say that is okay you have people offering u solutions like, let's just hav one door it is not the guns that ar killing the kids is the fact that they can't ge out of the classrooms quic enough let's build white boards tha are bulletproof. let's send kids to cool with bulletproof backpacks.

let's train teachers like yo would a navy seal. but let's not get rid of the guns i am tired as well and jamal bowman, who is representative, is exhausted and everyone should be channeling that outrage. i don't want my members to b civil as we are seeing childre be gunned down in thei classrooms and that is normal this is a normal thing i america? we are the only country that this happens in. and we just shrug it off and it is the next new cycle until the next school shooting until the next mass shooting and then everybody just goes about their business we are over it at this point, there needs t be a national boycott. people need to walk out. we are over it >> well said on that note, last quick question to molly, how is it that people in france ar protesting over pension reform and people in israel are protesting over judicial reform, and americans haven't taken to the street over -- buttered and school again an again?

>> we are seeing some of tha in the state houses in the younger generation has bee really good with that kind o thing in the march for our lives. but certainly there needs to b more of that that needs to be organized and i will say that the on thing that is good is that bon -- enormous organization. there is a lot of organization in the space and they are goin to, at some point, be bigger than the nra so, yes. i agree. >> we will have to leave i there. molly -- daniel moody, thank you, all o you, for joining me tonight. and sticking around. i appreciate all of you. >> coming up next, the america dream is a myth. if the rich and powerful don't face it counted billet-y whe they couldn't make crimes. don't forget you can listen to the mehdi hasan show fre wherever you get your podcasts

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legal system that it took this long for donald trump to b indicted but it isn't surprising. the u.s. has a long history of letting the rich and powerfu get away with crimes george w. bush still hasn' faced any accountability for illegally invading iraq 20 years ago. instead, he got a second act a a reasonable republican wh became friends with a michelle obama. the wall street bankers wh helped crash the economy t thousand eight you know [interpreter] great depression they almost all got of scot-free. how can anyone buy into th idea of the american dream i we never hold the rich and powerful accountable my next guest has written book on this alyssa court is the author o boot strapped, liberatin ourselves from the america dream. she joins me now melissa, thanks for coming o the show congratulations on the book. let's talk about the gop's response to trump's indictment they're trying to dismiss this as a bookkeeping case.

it is not a crime. funny, they never had that sam -- sharp with crimes. their argument seems to be won one of their own get prosecuted it isn't a real crime. white collar crimes, financial crimes, are real crimes. >> yeah. i think one of the things to remember is that this is par of a long colin. the khan that trump starte when he claimed to be self mad and cool to republicans an many others by claiming he didn't inherit this money from his father and that he paid hi taxes and that he was actually a legitimate businessman and i think we have to get t the bottom of the self-mad mitt before we have anothe trump, another strongman lik this lying to our people and w are going to continue to lie but it all starts with thi cone of the self made man. >> you talk about, in the book you talk about trump's privileged background. you can your book in a quote trump implied that he believed in her 12 to be a sign o inborn superiority

crediting his success to his good jeans or the right gene supposedly better bread on a cellular level than others, he put i will put aside the - -- another people is it any surprise he thinks h is above the law as a mindse like that? so to a lot of other ric people >> yeah. a lot of other rich people elon musk is a great example one thing that i found in th research from my book as man of these people not only got these benefits from thei family, from inherited wealth, but also from things like ou government we look at subsidy trackers we see like somebody like elo musk got billions for tests law. and obviously this is, we have to tear this myth out at the root that so many -- it is not just jeans or family or this kind of terrible superiority that these peopl have it is the lies they tell themselves and others abou everything >> so, alyssa, tell us about the thesis of your book.

what was your biggest take awa and examining the idea of what the american dream, this commonly invoked phrase by politicians, what it reall means in today's age o spiraling income and wealt inequality >> right i have the media nonprofit devoted to inequality, and the economic hardship reportin project. what i see a lot is this abuse of the american dream as a way to and shame more people o people with class instability, jovial class instability and this isn't how the america dream started. the american dream started i 1931 by john trussler adams, who argued for the expensive american dream more communal, more based on actual merit so what i see is thi bastardized dream which reward the already successful and the rich and punishes those who ar financially and emotionall struggling that is true of politics a

well >> we are living in a time when, i saw today all over my social media, people saying - life expectancy is worse tha similar countries. yet no one seems to want t draw obvious conclusions about why it is. all the red states look wors life expectancy because thos are the ones blocking medicaid and blocking access to care. come from the uk where there i a universal health care. it seems like a no-brainer a one of the reasons people is struggling in this country because of universal healt care other welfare related issues to >> absolutely true if you look at a state where like west virginia, partly why they have such high overdose rates as they don't have polic like armored auction and the don't have a - california does. and i love that you bring up the unadjusted, i love the nhs we need more support for peopl struggling there are people in my book wh are using gofundme to pay fo their basic health problems.

the more complicated ones. and it is one of the biggest sectors of gofundme this crowd funding site, where people are paying for - national disgrace. the earlier part of your program, stressing how we need to be outraged where is the outrage >> yeah. you are right. i was talking in the context o gun control but the same applies to health care find it bizarre that peopl shell gofundme pages if it i normal no other industrialized countr has people asking for money on gofundme to get basic health care treatments. willis accord i'm so glad yo have written this book thank you for coming on th show it is called boot straps living rating ourselves from the american dream it is available now. thank you. coming up at the top of th hour with ayman mohyeldin, lanny davis, michael cohen's lawyer on his reaction to th trump indictment and his promise that cohen will be - and former federal prosecuto alan weisman will also join th conversation that is next nine.

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we'll be right back here nex sunday at 8 pm eastern could now find the show on the analysis - during the week on peacock time now to head over to m good head friend ayman mohyeldin. ayman, good evening, before head over to you, i mentione at the top of my show when i comes to the donald trum indictment, i personally a frustration with this constant implication of this is unprecedented, as if this is somehow abnormal your former foreign responde and i'm a guy who grew up in europe this is actually quite norma in the rest of the democrati world. isn't it france, italy, israel, i won south korea. they have all prosecuted forme presidents and prime minister. there is a study by acts heels saying leaders who left --

and at least 78 countries. 70 so our fellow americans need t wake up and realize that we ar behind the rest of the world when it comes to holding forme leaders accountable. this is american exceptionalis of the worst kind. >> yeah. i'm glad you brought up that point. we are seeing in realtime what happens when you don't hol former leaders accountable for their alleged crimes off to do is just look at what is happening overseas in israe with thousands of israelis taking to the streets in protest. you may recall trump's bestie, prime minister bettered me netanyahu in israel, he wa facing corruption charges when he decided to run again fo office and what does he do, as soon a he returns to power? it begins to overhaul th country's judiciary, t effectively she'll themselve from any prosecution he's basically rigging the system so that he cannot b tried or how to countable. so you talked about this las week on your show, which i

thought was brilliant. if donald trump, who is no facing what could be one o many criminal charges, actuall wins the white house again i 2024, i personally, i know you won't be, but i certainl wouldn't be surprised if h takes a page from netanyahu' playbook and tries to get hi republican cronies, we kno there is a lot of them, to shield him from any lega accountability by passing laws to shutdown cases or prevent him from basing any lega consequences or shutting dow the da's investigation if they could. who knows? which is why democrats need to take action now, to preemp that >> i think democrats, the bide white house should, receive -- doj memo that says you can't indict a sitting president robert mueller hit behind that they should get rid of tha tonight. >> absolutely. couldn't agree with you more m friend thank you as much, as always great to see what matty. enjoy the rest of your evening >> - new details on the trump indictment in just a moment i, will speak with lanny davis michael cohen's attorney, beau

unreported information tha cohen handed over to manhattan prosecutors and what his forme fixer might do at the trial. plus, how many handier alvin bragg made his case for do senior official, andre weissmann will join me to talk about that he says charging trump was required by the rule of law. after the break, the other major story this week, tha wisconsin's state supreme cour race, -- we'll explain why this electio should matter to every america and a whole lot more i may be in mohyeldin. let's get started. oh >> tonight, we have a muc deeper sense of -- and the reason it has taken so long to get to this moment thanks to a pair of stunning new revelations. breaking earlier today, lann das,ic