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defendant trump in photos that will live in infamy. the first american president to be charged with a crime. defendant donald j. trump, is seen here surrounded by his legal team a photo trump most certainly did not want you to see. it's nothing short of a remarkable image of the new reality for the man who raged in all caps on social media ahead of his day in court before surrendering for arrest and processing in manhattan criminal court. trump was uncharacteristically grim and silent, ignoring questions from reporters before pleading not guilty to 34 felony

counts of falsifying business records in the first degree. the now unsealed indictment lays out the 34 counts. in the form of numerous entries made with, quote, intent to defraud and intent to commit another crime and aid and conceal the commission thereof the indictment isn't explicit about the other crimes trump tried to conceal but it's laid out clearly in the prosecutor 'statement of fact as a scheme involving trump and america media incorporated ceo david pecker, noting in june 2015, defendant trump announced his candidacy for president. and soon after, in august 2015, met with lawyer a, michael cohen, and pecker at trump tower. at that meeting, pecker agreed to help with the defendant's campaign, saying that he would act as the eyes and ears of the campaign by looking out for negative stories about the defendant and alerting lawyer a,

cohen, before the stories were published. the ami ceo also agreed to publish negative stories about the defendant's competitor for the election the broader scheme played out in three parts. first, a payoff to a trump tower doorman, alleging in november 2015 the ami ceo learned that a former trump tower doorman was trying to sell information regarding a child that the defendant had allegedly fathered out of wedlock at the ceo's direction, ami negotiated and signed an agreement to pay the doorman $30,000 to acquire exclusive rights to the story. the second part, suppressing woman one, presumably playboy play mate karen mcdougal quote, the defendant, the ami ceo, and lawyer a, had a series of discussions about who should pay off woman one to secure her silence. ami ultimately paid $150,000 to a woman one in exchange for her

agreement not to speak out about the alleged sexual relationship. prosecutors say, quote, the defendant did not want this information to become public because he was concerned about the effect it could have on his candidacy. in other words, it was clearly intended to influence the 2016 election then there's a third part, the hush money payment to buy stormy daniels' silence after the release of the "access hollywood" tape in october 2016. quote, with pressure mounting and the election approaching, the defendant agreed to the payoff and directed cohen to proceed. cohen discussed the deal with the defendant and trump organization cfo allen weisselberg. the defendant trump did not want to make the $130,000 payment himself. and asked cohen and weisselberg to find a way to make the payment. the final part of the scheme, prosecutors say trump arranged to reimburse cohen for the payoff he made on trump's behalf saying cohen submitted ten

similar monthly invoices by email to the trump organization for the remaining months in 2017 each invoice falsely stated that it was being submitted pursuant to the retainer agreement and falsely requestedpayment for services rendered for a month of 2017 well, in fact, there was no such retainer agreement, and lawyer a, cohen, was not being paid for services rendered in any month of 2017. after the twice impeached former president's arraignment, manhattan district attorney alvin bragg addressed reporters about the importance of pursuing the case against trump >> under new york state law, it is a felony to falsify business records with intent to defraud and intent to conceal another crime. that is exactly what this case is about 34 false statements made to cover up other crimes.

these are felony crimes in new york state no matter who you are. we cannot and will not normalize serious criminal conduct >> we have a distinct and strong, i would say profound independent interest in new york state. this is the business capital of the world. we regularly do cases involving false business statements. for trump, the ultimate indignity is he got away with the "access hollywood" tape politically, but he will now have to pay for it legally at the hands of manhattan prosecutors and the people of the state of new york. joining me now is hugo lowell, political investigations reporter for the guardian who was in the courtroom today for trump's arraignment. katie phang, host of the katie phang show on msnbc, and charles coleman jr., former brooklyn prosecutor, civil rights attorney, and msnbc legal analyst. thank you all for being here hugo, i'm very excited to hear from you please talk about the atmosphere

in the court today, what you saw, and specifically what you observed about donald trump today. >> well, extremely tense when we got to the courtroom, there were probably about 20 court security officers, probably around five to ten secret service officers, and we were waiting for a while first, the prosecution team walked in, and then trump's defense counsel walked in. then, trump walked in. and when trump came into the courtroom, he looked particularly angry, visibly shaken, and the most gaunt that i have seen him. and it was really striking i have never seen him look so, i guess, afraid. and i have never seen him look so serious as he did today and it was striking how all of this was on his face, even as he showed no discernible emotion throughout proceedings i think principally, it was the result of him walking into the

courtroom, being read the criminal charges, and actually hitting him. we spoke to advisers when he learned about the indictment, and he was kind of hit then, but when he actually walked into the courtroom, i think he was hit to a whole new degree and the gravity of the moment really sunk in. >> just to stay with you for a moment, you have covered donald trump. you covered him at trump tower, at mar-a-lago. what you're describing is a very different donald trump than the one that people who watch the apprentice or watched him as president experienced. >> this is a man who is excellent at being performative, about being a star of his own show and he has been talking for weeks about how he wanted to be the star of his show this time, too. he was talking about how he wanted to be handcuffed and all this bruvaundo about how he wanted his hands behind his back and i want to be a martyr. when it actually came to the moment, he was really drawn, he was really gaunt and there was none of the performative stuff that you saw

kind of in the lead-up to this arraignment. once he made his way into the courtroom, where there were no tv cameras and only the photographers at the start, that was the tone that he set and that was the demeanor that he had. i have never seen anything like it >> let me come to the table for a moment back to attorneys here you know, it's like when they say in boxing, you really don't know anything until you get punched in the face. then you really find out which god you serve. and i mean, donald trump has for his entire life, has someone fixing things for him. he always had a fixer. >> always wanted a roy cohn. >> he had michael cohen, allen weisselberg. he's always had someone to fix it even for donald trump who has gotten away arguably with committing a few crimes in his time over the course of his life, suddenly it's different when you're in court >> think about it this way you're talking about someone who went through a mueller investigation, nothing happened. impeachment number one, nothing happens. impeachment number two, nothing

happened all of these formal proceedings that have taken place have not led to any actual consequence. but during each of those, you still had the status to be in control of the institutions that were investigating you you still had a certain level of power over the people who were making the decisions now, you are not in that arena anymore. you are in an arena where you have no control. you can't control the narrative. you can't control the actors and you can't control the system so those are new things for donald trump to experience and the fact he's a litigant in myriad civil cases has nothing to do with this because this is a space where you will lose your freedom. and that's something he hasn't experienced before >> there was all the talk of him putting out a fake version of the mugshot they could sell on t-shirts it gets real when it's a real mugshot. i want to talk about the case though i found it fascinating just to read through it. i want to go through this with you guys the understanding that i have here is that very simp lay, to put it in very simple terms, you

had this agreement between these three parties. ami, david pecker, which is the people who published the national enquirer, michael cohen, and donald trump. and they say we're going to squash any negative stories. it's an illicit child, we'll pay $30,000 to this person this person says they had an affair, they get $150. this person gets $130, then we'll reimburse and pretend we make a shell company that ain't real, two companies, they pay out. and then we reimburse cohen and say this was a retainer. ain't a retainer this to me reads like a pretty standard thing that gets prosecuted in new york it doesn't seem extraordinary to me >> all you have to do is plug and play a defendant so for all of the drama that this is former president donald trump. he's just jail number donald trump now. that's why the judge referred to him as mr. trump, not former president trump. this is what alvin bragg said at the presser this afternoon this is the bread and butter of

the new york d.a.'s office your timeline is right, and that's really important, what's laid out in the statement of facts and the indictment august 2015, that agreement. pecker, cohen, and trump, catch and kill no negative information. why, because i'm running for pr president of the united states doorman gets paid off $30,000. june 2016, karen mcdougal gets $150,000 everybody is quiet still haven't heard anything september 2015, the audiotape between michael cohen and donald trump, trump telling cohen, pay cash what do you mean this whole setup, this arrangement? just pay the cash. october 7th, 2016, "access hollywood" tape comes out, everything blows up. we're on the eve of the election there's drama, the evangelicals maybe getting a little nervous on october 27th, 2016, stormy daniels gets her $130 thon it was all for the purpose of being able to win and influence the outcome of the election. that's why it's so important for people to understand you want to talk about an election being stolen. you want to talk about stolen

elections. donald trump stole that election in 2016. but for this information really coming out then, i honestly believe he bought his election that's what he did >> i mean, the issue is, something like 16 united states senators withdrew their endorsements from donald trump people like reince priebus, head of the rnc, said you shouldn't run. there was proof there were people saying this maybe ain't going to work. so he had a motive to want to do this and he seems to have put in place sort of an insurance policy to say that there will be no human witnesses, right, to his sexual corruption. >> this timeline that katie has laid out along with everything you said is going to be critically important down the stretch when you're talking about a trial. one reason for that is you're going to have to basically connect the notion that these payments were made to influence or specifically under new york state law, to promote or prevent an election basically, that's the underlying charge or one of

the charges bragg alluded to during his presser the reason that becomes so important is because that's going to be the hook if you will that helps him get to the felony there are a lot of people who are saying, you're using a misdemeanor to get to a felony and this may not be worth it to those people, i respond, you cannot say on one hand we will prosecute anyone who has broken a law and hold everyone accountable and cherry pick which laws are worthy of going forward on alvin bragg has a job as the manhattan district attorney here in new york, and that is to enforce the law. donald trump has broken the law, and that's what alvin bragg is doing. it may not be the sexiest case, there most glamorous case, but alvin bragg is doing what alvin bragg has been elected to do >> it's a basic case there is a piece in this indictment, i'm going to go back to hugo in a moment, but i want to come back to you guy, where in february i believe of 2018, trump invites david pecker to the white house, specifically to thank him for helping in the campaign that's part of the indictment.

>> thank you for the campaign help right there. >> he admits it. >> correct, and that's a big part of what alvin bragg will be using, along with the timeline you laid out and sort of just each step, how all of these things were directly connected to the campaign in order to establish the overall legal theory i know a number of people were wondering before we got this indictment, what was going to be the thing in addition to the actual payments that was going to help him get to the felony. and what was the underlying charge this was not necessarily what we were expecting, but it is a viable legal theory, and i will add, joy, for people who may sort of not necessarily love to hear this, it's also a defensible theory as well. i think donald trump's attorneys got off relatively light today with what they thought they might have been facing with respect to potential tax fraud or something even worse, around the federal charge if alvin bragg could have made that out, but he didn't. he chose a safe route. this is a relatively tight and thinly threaded indictment, and i think that it's also

defensible >> i want to go to hugo for one moment take us back for just a moment that is sort of an important piece of this, what was the mindset of the trump campaign at the time that all of these shoes were dropping? there's also a controversy about him calling a former miss universe a pig, and there was all this question about whether women voters and that's mentioned in the indictment, there was a concern that women voters would walk away what was the state of the campaign at that point >> right, and this is going to be crucial to the trial, because the trump campaign has -- the trump legal team has long said look, trump was always going to be killing these stories because he was a public figure, and he had a history of trying to kill these stories since he became famous but there are certain points in this indictment that we hadn't necessarily anticipated, which i think makes it very clear that a lot of these specific payments to stormy daniels, for instance in particular, were tied to the presidential campaign. i think this is really notable for instance, when michael cohen

told david pecker not to publish stories until the election was over there's a lot of election related activity, a lot of election related testimony that michael cohen and david pecker will be star witnesses in the trial because of what they know and the conversations they had about holding stuff until the election was over. >> there's testimony from michael cohen that he goes into the white house and meets with trump in the oval to confirm that he's going to get paid back then i want to ask you, katie, specifically about this. this is a statement of fact about cohen in a pressure campaign to your point, something that doesn't seem to be charged the fbi executed a search warrant on cohen's residents and office in the months that followed, the defendants and others engaged in a pressure campaign to make sure lawyer a did not cooperate with law enforcement. on the day of the searches, lawyer a called to speak with the defendant to let him know what occurred. in a return call, he told lawyer a, stay strong are you surprised there isn't an

additional charge related to trying to pressure michael cohen not to tell the truth? >> witness intimidation. we're talking about robert costello, right? the one witness trump brought before the grand jury, the grand jury thought this was not that important. part of that speaks to the challenge that michael cohen's credibility is going to have and even though we know that michael cohen is the only one who has done time for what happened here, i think that by pitting the costello and cohen thing together, it may not have been literally worth it. why, because it doesn't necessarily fit with the cleanliness of this particular indictment if you look at the 34 counts, they cite section 155.10, here's the crime, here's the date, here's how it was booked it's falsification of a business record i think if you added that one additional witness tampering, wince intimidation, you muddy the water. you add the drama. >> here's the challenge, every time this comes up and i go back because i'm not a lawyer so maybe i'm not qualified to do it, every time someone brings up the cohen credibility thing,

here's my problem with that. everything michael cohen has said has turned out to be accurate he pleaded guilty to crimes all of which except for one were related to doing something at the behest of one perp, donald trump. he's the only person who benefitted from it, the person michael cohen did it for in this indictment, it says they created a shell company to pay at his behest, michael cohen doing that for donald trump. michael cohen pleaded guilty to it ami admitted to the feds it was a crime, admitted it was for the campaign if three people commit a crime and two people admit that it's a crime and woun goes to prison for it, the third person also committed a crime. i see an issue with donald trump. >> the credibility issue is one. katie and i have this conversation we're no strangers to trying cases with witnesses whose testimony is vital to our case, and who have credibility issues. what you do with that as a prosecutor and basically say,

this person was so close to the action >> he was the one doing it who else would know? >> that's how you overcome that. i will say that michael cohen is not doing alvin bragg any favors with the amount of talking he's doing. that came up from the defense in the hearing today where they were talking about the fact that as the judge was talking about donald trump being on social media and talking and saying what he was saying, they brought up the fact that michael cohen had been on the steps of the court talking about what was going on with the case and with the grand jury, and that is something that as a prosecutor would make me nervous. >> one thing really quickly, the discovery in this case, the defense is going to get the grand jury testimony there's no depos, no depositions. so they're going to get all the grand jury testimony, the witness list, and they have to figure it out. the second thing is if they file a motion to dismiss and they lose, no appeal, meaning they're not going to stave going to trial. >> we have to pay for all this stuff. i will say one last thing and definitely going to commercial this should not even be alvin bragg's problem. this should have been done by the feds

the feds had the case, they booted the case under william barr and booted it to two state prosecutors in georgia, that should have been done by the doj. this should be a federal case. hugo lowell, katie phang, and charles coleman jr., we have to make sure dad at home gets his honoriffic >> up next, trump's arraignment was met with protests, counterprotests. "the reidout" continues after this (regular voice) let's fix this. (alternate voice) poligrip power hold + seal gives our strongest hold and 5x food seal. if your mouth could talk, it would ask for... poligrip.

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. much like the twice impeached former pred's four years in office, today was a three-ring circus. earlier in the day, trump supporters seemed to outnumber anti-trump protesters but as the day wore on, trump supporters appeared to be outnumbered long island congressman george santos showed up to pledge his allegiance to trump, perhaps hoping trump returns to the white house and gives him a pardon he left after he was met with a swarm of reporters and counterprotesters. marge raw taylor green was also there but promptly bailed after her insults were drowned out by shouts and whistles. democratic congressman jamaal bowman of new york showed up to remind the congressman the job she gets paid for in taxpayer money actually is. >> marjorie taylor greene needs

to take her ass back to washington and do something about gun violence do something about affordable housing. do something about childhood poverty. do something about climate change do your freaking job, marjorie taylor greene. you don't need to be in new york city talking that nonsense go back to your district what are you doing here? you're here for politics you're here because you want to be vp. >> wow, well, when trump arrived at the courthouse, he was greeted by a chorus of demonstrators chanting, no one is above the law trump is not above the law while defendant trump has never had that many fans in new york city, frankly, he has created a massive national following of supporters and politicians who pledge blind aleiegeants to him no matter what that wasn't always the case. during his present 16 campaign, he was facing challengers from republicans up until the day of his very nomination at the convention today's indictment shows he and his campaign wanted to secure

republican support at all costs, especially after the release of the "access hollywood" tape, which led 16 republicans to jump ship ultimately, none of that really mattered he was elected president and he skirted accountability up until today. the real irony here, though, is he is in legal jeopardy because he wanted republicans to like him. little did he realize, they just want to be just like him joining me now is charlie psychs, editor at large of the bulwark, and i asked my producers to look this up. it is kind of amazing to me that after all that has happened with donald trump and what he's dealing with now, he did all of that because he was afraid republicans would ditch him because of "access hollywood." his polling numbers went up after "access hollywood. he was actually more popular with republican voters in october, it was october 7th that "access hollywood" happened. he was at 48% support before, 52% and 51% after. it did dip a little bit back to

48% by november. but it didn't hurt him at all. isn't it ironic that he went through all of this and may now face jail for something he didn't even have to really do? >> well, i don't know that that's true because i remember october 7th, 2016, very, very well that was really in many ways a pivotal day for republican politics, a pivotal day for american politics because everything was hanging on a razor's edge you had republicans who were backing away from him. the was a sense if there was one more shoe, one more bad story that everything would fall apart. as we know what happened was nothing really happened. all the republicans who had pulled their endorsements scurried back to him that was really a turning point. it was an indication of how much the republican party would swallow, what they would be willing to go along with, and they never really recovered from that but now, you put it in context

of the payoff of stormy daniels and the timeline is really interesting to me. the amount of panic and concern in trump world after that "access hollywood" video, what if that story had come out in late october 2016? they thought it would be extremely damaging they thought it might be devastating. and that's why they paid her off. fast forward to today, where donald trump for all these years thought he had pulled it off he thought he got away with it and today we found out that he has not gotten away with it. there in fact are consequences to all that. so you know, thinking back on that particular day, it is so interesting, donald trump is the only man in american presidential history who could pay off two porn stars and have people think that it was trivial. but this was a conspiracy and a cover-up in the crucial days of a presidential campaign. so there's going to be a lot of

attempts to spin this as something minor or tawdry, but if you remember what was actually going on there, this was a decisive moment in american politics. >> the thing is, and the reason i say that is that the poll was not of republican politicians. republican politicians were walking away, but what they didn't realize is that what they were leading was a base that was more akin to a marjorie taylor greene, at the base of the republican party, i think there was a schism they didn't even realize. the voters didn't care okay, they didn't. they cared, and people like reince priebus who you know very well from wisconsin, was like whoa, you probably shouldn't keep running at the end of the day, who controls the party people like marjorie taylor greene joe tacopina had the nerve to get up and say he wasn't posing with a bat he was posing with an american bat to show an american-made bat. the excuse making, that's what comes up from the base that's what i find ironic. they didn't understand their

voters didn't care about trump's lasciviousness >> maybe there were enough swing voters who might have cared, but you're absolutely right. we wouldn't have marjorie taylor greene, she wouldn't be a thing today if it wasn't for what happened after october 7th that world that was created by caving in after "access hollywood" and now we know all of the attempts, the payoffs, the hush money and everything that republicans were willing to accept, and it is really when you think about it one of the many sort of fundamental basic big lies that undergirds all of this trumpian era that we're in. and so, you know, you mentioned reince priebus one reason i remember that night is because i was texting back and forth with reince priebus and he was telling me he was in tears and trying to talk donald trump into getting out of the race he eventually made his peace with him, he worked for him, he became an enabler and

rationalizer that was in many ways exactly what the rest of the republican party did. i remember what that night was like, and believe it or not, i think things could have gone a different direction, but of course, they didn't. and now we know one of the reasons why it did not >> yeah, i mean, it wasn't -- it's not just kevin mccarthy that works for marjorie taylor gr greene, all of the republican establishment works for marjorie taylor greene and her ilk. that's the base of the party at this point charlie sykes, thank you very much up next, a refreshing look at karmic justice, and that is today's events, with yu yusef salaam

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railing about how unfairly the justice system is supposedly treating him when in reality that treatment is actually pretty cushy compared to how people of color has been treated by the justice system for decade at today's arraignment, trump was not in handcuffs or shackles he didn't have a mugshot taken that is nowhere near the worst of what the criminal justice system has to do one case involving the exonerated central park five who were wrongfully convicted of a rape of a white jogger more than 30 years ago you'll remember, trump took out a full-page ad in four major new york city newspapers calling for the state to adopt the death

penalty and use it on the teens. something he has never apologized for >> mr. president, will you apologize for the central park five they have been exonerated. >> you have people on both sides of that. they admitted their guilt. if you look at linda and some of the prosecutors, they think that the city should never have settled that case. so we'll leave it at that. >> joining me now is yusef salaam, one of the exonerated five, candidate for new york city council and author of "better, not bitter, the power of hope and living on purpose. it's so great to see you >> thank you for having me >> i have to tell you, i'm a couple years older than you and i had just moved back to new york when your case began and watched it every day and was severely traumatized by it not anywhere close, obviously, to you guys. but i was a teenager too what tat case told me is it was not safe to be a black teenager in new york. i was terrified as a result of that and everyone i knew was

too. very, very curious as to how it felt for you in particular having been through what you were and having that man want you dead, want you to be killed by the state of new york to watch him have to face the criminal justice system today. how did you feel >> 34 years ago, i wasn't afforded the presumption of innocence. they looked at the color of my skin and judged me by it they never looked at the content of my character. in america, they say you're innocent until proven guilty rather for the black and brown community, they look at you and say you're guilty, guilty, guilty i look at what happened today, and it was a moment for me it was a moment because here we are on the cusp of can i go from calling it the criminal system of injustice which everyone knows me as calling it, back to calling it the criminal justice system this moment is a moment i'm sure when i think about dr. king, you know, the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice. i get the opportunity to be

front and center with all of my lived experiences, and it's a bittersweet moment at the same time you know, when i think about the rhetoric that's out there when donald trump says, you know, if they could do this to me, none of us are safe >> come on >> we live in two different worlds people take my words and bend it and try to attribute it to other groups no, i'm talking about donald trump and the people who use privilege as a weapon. for me, as a member of the black and brown community, and hopefully as a representative of our community, i know far too well all of the lows we have been in, all of the places we have been pushed into, the margins of life. and now here we are with the opportunity to say we're supposed to be living. in fact, we're supposed to be thriving god gave us a birth rite to say we're supposed to be here, and therefore, here we are >> and the fact that, you know, he talks about linda fairsteen,

the irony and the karmic irony that it is a black d.a. that donald trump has to face, and that he is getting the full -- he's being afforded all of the full protections of the law is something, but i have to talk about this because you are running for district nine, this is a map, too small for me to read it. i have to squint and look at it, but you took the thing that had to be one of the most painful things in your life, this is it, i'm holding it, this is your ad that you have created. there it is on screen. that mimics the ad he created that called for your death >> oh, yeah. >> andyou turned it into a campaign ad for your campaign. why? >> people need hope. they don't necessarily need to just look at my story and say wow, great move. no, they need to understand, we absolutely can resuscitate our lives. when you look at the harlems of the world and you walk around and you see, what, you see hopelessness you see sleeping giants, you see people who have said, you know

what, i don't even want to participate, but they don't realize yet that nonparticipation is participation. i heard eric thomas say, you have to recycle the pain you're going to go through things in life, might as well get something out of it. here i get the opportunity to take all of the things that i have lived through and rather than just going through it, i grow through it. i think that i with the light that i have been given, can shine the way forward. that's why i'm running for city council. >> yeah. when is the race >> the race is june 27th >> okay. >> i'm excited >> yeah. >> folks are, you know, for me, it's not politics as usual it's not business as usual this is my first entry into the political sphere, but at the same time, i have been watching. i have been gathering information. i have understood the people who have been closest to the pain, why? because i have been in pain. and now, we have to have a seat at the table it's no longer enough for us to

march in the streets for justice. we now have to have someone who is advocating for us in the halls of power that can insure that their voices are carried and echoed and echoed and echoed >> i am amazed by you. by your grace, your ability to survive and thrive i wish you all the best. harlem would be so lucky >> thank you >> dr. yusef salaam, i'm going to give you your honorific too god bless. best of luck thank you. and republican lawmakers meanwhile in tennessee, ooh, speaking of protests and they're trying to expethl ree of their democratic colleagues for taking part in a peaceful protest against gun violence we'll talk with two of those democratic lawmakers next. will be big. new toasted baguettes. cater your next event with panera.

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wouldn't have conversation about the insurrection what you see here, this wasn't a protest. it was an anti-democratic faction seeking to keep trump in power by forces their way inside the capitol, assaulting police, and hunting lawmakers, including the vice president, with the intent to intimidate or kill them that was the insurrection. but because republicans going to republican, the party that backed the insurrection is spinning any protest against their policies as insurrection they're weaponizing the word to distort the concept of peaceful protest. in tennessee, students have been rallying for gun reform every day since last week's mass shooting at a nashville school on thursday, hundreds of children, students, and parents gathered at the en10 capitol to demand gun safet

>> thank you both for being here i want to start with you representative jones the speaker of the house i tennessee called the protest b these kids - may be worse than the januar 6th insurrection courageous your thoughts. >> i think that the speaker of the house, and thank you s much for having us misread think that the speaker of th house owes the young people an their families, their mother and the grandparents who joine them an apology. because his words were insulting to a grievin community. i represent, i'm a part of nashville, this mass shootin

happened here in nashville rather than responding wit compassion, he responded b demonizing young people who ar simply saying we want to live. we don't want kids shot in elementary schools this is preventable. we should act. instead of listening to the us young people and encouraging them and comforting them, th speaker incited he tried against them and try to portra them as violent. >> these marches were at the you reminded me of march for our lives in florida and representative johnson, ther is a republican stat representative william lambert who asked protesters, thes kids, who are out there just trying to survive, getting through high school alive, quote, is there a firearm ar there that you are comfortable being shot with, he ha corporately. please show me which one it is it is shocking to me that that is the kind of rhetoric that i happening in your state, you house of representatives, an that it is you all that they are trying to expel. do you expect this vote to actually be taken to expel you

>> you know, i think that it likely will. they have not demonstrated any understanding, they can't read the room they have not demonstrated any understanding. i don't know if they have even looked kids until the the ey if he asked that question of them when you - spoke with, i talk to moms tha morning who had dropped thei kids off and were so worried about where they're going to b able to pick their kids up and what they be safe, and the didn't even look them in the eye. they did have a conversation they didn't listen to them and it is remarkable how the treat people we see that every single day and the way they treated these folks who were afraid for thei lives, i am a teacher, i was a a school we had a school shooting and lost a student i have seen the trauma and the terror in children's faces >> yeah. >> i don't know how you cannot

listen to these people who are concerned. >> representative jones, there is an incident i want to sho you here, i want to let yo talk over it it even appears that one o your colleagues physically shoved you will, have physical contact with you can you just explain wha happened >> last night on the house floor was a very sad day for tennessee. our colleagues in a partisan man -- partisan vote for expulsion, voted to begin a process o expelling us as i was reporting in th gallery as they clear the medi and were gathered in the gallery, the speaker - i was reporting it and m colleague representative justi lafferty pushed me and took my cell phone and acted in disorderly way but he is not being threatened with expulsion we three lawmakers who simpl were saying that we stand with our constituents as they cry out and plead for us to take action on kids being killed in schools, we are bein threatened with expulsion. but being expelled for standin

in doing our jobs as legislators. to listen to the grief of ou people and active on it. >> the last thing, representative johnson, have there been incidents, understand they have bee lascivious frightening incidents of a sexual nature from which there have been no attempts to expel members, right >> well, absolutely. i mean, we have had members in each other's office chairs. we have had members, we have a child molester, we had a child molester on the house floor fo years. i brought, he was it admitte child molester i brought in an expulsion fo him. and i'm cheering and education committee. he was a teacher and basketbal coach that sexually abused 3:1 year olds. and we try to expel him. and they said well, you know his voters knew and the electe him. so we can't overturn what they want it. >> unbelievable. we'll, please come back. we want to know what happens with their cases tennessee state representative justin jones and gloria johnson, we will be praying attention t

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