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issue that jesus would kill you unless you raise $8 million. >> well, i think that it's -- >> not joe >> i think we end the program with jonathan and now donald trump has become the leader of defund the police. >> yep >> on that note. >> let me just say, though, before we leave, there is no question, though, one thing that we all agree on, at least barb barnicle and i agree on, the red sox pitching staff. >> snuck one in under the wire. >> we need to play sarah mclaughlin and raise some money to get some arms in boston >> you need to go up into the tower, the prudential tower, right, mike, call for money in boston >> cry, i'm going to cry >> that does it for us this morning, blessedly lindsey reiser picks up the coverage right now
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♪ it is 10:00 a.m. in new york i'm lindsey riser and this morning huge new questions swirls as the historic case against president trump launches into a new phase the prosecutor alleging new information at the center of the charges. he's not saying what that information is, something trump's legal team is already pouncing on. >> i mean, where are the underlying charges the indictment actually did not list what these underlying charges are. >> trump overnight lashing out at both the judge and district attorney, despite warnings from the judge to avoid dangerous rhetoric did his comments last night cross the line, and what does all this mean for his presidential campaign? breaking news out of missouri, multiple people are dead after a suspected tornado strike in the southeastern part of the state, the search for survivors. a double barrel seismic
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shift in politics, progressives in chicago and wisconsin scoring massive electoral victories, first by electing former teacher brandon johnson as chicago's next mayor, second by flipping wisconsin's supreme court to a liberal majority for the first time in 15 years the massive implications that single race has for abortion rights and the state's elections. and outrage in tennessee after massive protests on the state house floor over gun reform, state lawmakers are set to vote tomorrow on whether to expel these three democrats for their actions during that fiery and at times combative rally one of those three lawmakers joins me later this hour to discuss what he saw including the moment where he says one of his republican colleagues shoves him. we are going to begin with the fallout from trump's historic court appearance and some big questions at the core of the d.a.'s case starting us off, gabe gutierrez
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and lisa rubin, vaughn hillyard near mar-a-lago, and dave aronberg state attorney for palm beach county, florida. we know that you were in one of the overflow rooms during the arraignment. we also know the next hearing isn't scheduled until december what happens next? >> over the next few months, lindsey, there will be discovery given from -- by the prosecution to the defense, and then motions, motions, motions. >> that's discovery. >> discovery, evidence. >> so everything the prosecution has. >> the prosecution needs to give it over to the defense so that the defense can mount a defense. they need to know what evidence is there against him, and there are concerns by the prosecutors that former president trump might actually leak some of this discovery, leak some of this evidence or just post it on social media so that came up during the arraignment yesterday. by the way, unlyinike any arraignment i had ever seen before, so significant into so many ways. it devolved into basically opening statements just seeing the former president
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of the united states say not guilty in his own voice, it was just incredible. back to the time line, august and september, that's when we have some motions hearings as well decisions on the motions by december and that is when we could potentially see former president trump back here in new york. his defense actually raised the possibility that he may waive the right to be present, but then there was some back and forth there. the judge said at this point he thinks he probably should be here but he could revisit that later. then the prosecution during the arraignment said they were eyeing a date of january 2024 for this trial right smack in the middle of a heated presidential campaign the defense said they thought that was unrealistic they're thinking they might want this more in the spring. >> not politically because they want more time to mount a defense. >> they think they need more time and they want to push this back further into the spring and so right now it's an open question when this trial could get underway, but hugely significant. it appears this will play out in the middle of a presidential
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campaign, and of course that's not even taking into account the other in fvestigations into forr president trump. >> also as we mentioned, we heard from joe tacopina this morning on "today. i want to juxtapose something he said with something the d.a. said why the case is being brought now after a number of false starts here it is. >> we've had more evidence made available to the office and an opportunity to meet with additional witnesses. >> there's no new evidence that's spin. i'd like to hear him articulate what that is. >> if d.a. bragg does have new evidence in this case, why keep it so close to the vest? >> it's definitely a strategic choice, lindsey, and it's within hisright to do it. so as gabe noted earlier, there will be discovery in the case. president trump and his legal team will get access to that, but there are concerns about how president trump may use that evidence already yesterday lawyers raising the prospect of what's called a protective order that would limit president trump's use of documents
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produced by the district attorney just to his defense in this case. some of those documents are so sensitive that he should only be able to review them in his lawyer's office. so one is about his use of the discovery. the second thing is they don't have to reveal their entire theory of the case at this stage in the pleadings that will come over a series of months and through motion practice if you're them, why do it now if you don't have to. >> if some of the items in discovery could potentially be so sensitive that the defendant would have to go to his lawyer's office to review them s that typical for a case like this even though we haven't seen a case like this or you're thinking the context of some other investigations the former president is currently facing including classified documents. >> given who this defendant is, it's not unusual at all. certainly it's the sort of thing we see happen all the time when we're talking about people who either have a criminal past or who have been particularly provocative on social media or in other public fora. >> let's talk about the meat of the case we've got 34 charges against trump. they were elevated to felonies
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because the d.a. alleged trump chitte committed crimes in furtherance of a second crime, there's no second crime listed here in this document in the statement of facts what does that tell you here about the strategy >> i think, again, alvin bragg was asked about that yesterday, why didn't you mention the second crime, and he said at this stage in the game, we don't have to. all we have to do is allege that he intended to commit or conceal another crime. there will likely come a point in the case either because trump's lawyers move for what's called a bill of particulars, that's more detail about the theory of the case or as we reach the evidentiary stage. there are a couple of possibilities. one is a violation of state election law that prohibits conspiracies to promote or prevent any one person's election to public office through unlawful mean. the other is possible campaign finance violations on the federal level, and the third is an intent to commit tax fraud between michael cohen, allen weisselberg with donald trump's consent.
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>> since you are giving us a crash course here in law school 101, real quick, you called it a bill of -- >> particulars. >> bill of particulars what would be the time line until we would see that? >> you know, they have motions do in august >> okay. >> however, if you were the trump team, you might want to foreground that motion you mightment to make it sooner to hammer home the idea that alvin bragg has not been sufficiently specific about the theory of the case on the other hand, delay, delay, delay, attack, attack, attack, trump's mow dus op ren die could wait until august to do it. >> lisa talked about the other potential charges, crimes, that were named here in the statement of facts or charpgs. is the d.a. allowed to elevate state charges by pinning them to a federal campaign if it is the federal campaign finance violation? >> lindsey, that is the big question because lisa brings up the potential other crimes you have to have a second crime for it to be elevated to a felony well, one of them could be a federal campaign finance
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violation. but this is uncharted territory. can a state prosecutor piggy back on a federal law like that? we don't know, and that's part of the danger of this case also, it could be a violation of new york election laws, lindsey said, but that's a state law and can it apply to a federal race or would federal law preempt th state law, we don't know that yet, and then there's the tax fraud potential. here's the problem there, michael cohen was given more money than he laid out to pay the taxes, so is the state of new york out any money we don't know, unless the trump organization claimed a tax deduction improperly so there are a lot of questions out there. now, the facts, i think, are pretty damning against trump in that indictment that came out burk but the question is whether this case will make to a jury >> can i jump in for one second? you know, dave was talking about these three crimes
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you don't have to show that they were completed all you have to demonstrate to bump it up to a felony is a specific intent to commit them so in michael cohen's case , fo example, he questioned whether new york state was out so money. it may be that michael cohen's plan to do this was discovered by the department of justice before he ever got to filing a 2017 tax return or state tax return. >> wouldn't it be conspiracy then >> definitely there is the possibility, as i noted, the state election law violation here at issue is a conspiracy. people have asked why didn't they independently charge it here's one possibility that crime is a misdemeanor. you can use a misdemeanor to bump up a false records charge to a felony. but if you're asking yourself why didn't d.a. bragg charge this conspiracy, it's because that conspiracy as large as it was would have just been a misdemeanor. >> all right, vaughn, let's get over to you here we know that trump is always trying to convey strength at all costs. we saw a lot of bravado during his speech last night.
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any indication from his inner circle about how he's feeling about all of this when the cameras aren't on? >> reporter: i think it's important to note when we're talking about his inner circle, here, lindsey, is the small group of folks that do surround him very intimately now are folks who understand that there is no managing donald trump. we watched him operate in the white house, and for now donald trump is going to take that microphone at his free will. he is going to post on his social media account at his free will he took on the district attorney head on last night, he took on the judge, judge merchan who is overseeing this case in new york last night of course there is the threat that the judge could try to place a prodder protective order or a gag order even on the former president despite suggesting that he has yet to even consider it and that the prosecutors have yet to request it, but for donald trump, i think it's worth noting it was on march 25th about ten days ago in which i had suggested to him it seemed like he had been
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frustrated by the investigation spoo into him, and he cut me off and said i'm not frustrated. why would i be frustrated. i'm winning in terms of his republican primary yesterday his own attorneys walk out of the courthouse, todd blanch says, quote, he's frustrated he's upset but he's motivated. really what donald trump says is trying to go up on stage and come from a position of strength an and suggesting this is not going to hurt him. on the other hand his own attorneys have acknowledged their client is somebody who is being taken aback by the prosecution into him, and of course this is -- he's not naive to the fact that he's got three trials likely ahead of him now over the course of the next year. >> a little bit of indication vaughn for you in your line of questioning, not that you needed any. that was quite an exchange we saw about ten days ago judge merchan said if he saw problematic comments from the
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former president, he would have to take a closer look at a potential gag order. what is the line there >> i don't think he's crossed the line yet he's gone so close you don't attack the judge's family or the prosecutor's family is and get away with it the next step would be a partial dwag o gag order. the problem is if he violates that gag order, then he could end up 30 days in jail that's the quickest way for him to end up in an orange jump site in this case in my opinion. >> thank you so much. much more when we're back in just 60 seconds, including the reaction in swing states to the former president's 34 felony charges and his grievance-filled speech plus, breaking news in missouri, multiple fatalities reported after a suspected tornado ripped through the state. the latest on the search and rescue efforts. and why a supreme court seat pickup by liberals in wisconsin is potentially the most important election result of 2023, and the losing candidate is going out on this note.
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well, cherish your friends and loved ones. let's roll, daddio! let's boogie-woogie! in the hours since trump's arrest, the former president has immediately jumped back into campaign mode delivering a speech last night from mar-a-lago releasing new campaign merch, and sending out a fund-raising blast trump is still widely regarded as the front runner for the republican nomination. and so far his opponents in the race have jumped to his defense, but the question is will that last let's bring in nbc news washington correspondent yamiche alcindor and national reporter for "the washington post" and co-author of "i alone can fix it" carol lenning. republican operatives suggested that the full-throated support is unlikely to last forever. do you think that that could end as the respirator primary heats up or even before >> i think that's really hard to
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predict, but i hear you, lindsey. i think that, you know, what republicans have always been slightly hobbled by and they've con fessed this privately but no publicly is they're sort of waiting to see what happens with donald trump's sort of control of the party is he still the standard bearer with the public? do they risk losing his, quote, unquote sort of sacred base if they come at him or show any lack of fealty to him. that's the big risk for those people you know, mitch mcconnell despite having huge, huge disputes with donald trump still sort of parrots a kind of line from time to time. they've had a terrific break personally and politically, but when it comes time to take the stage and discuss what worries him, he often sounds a little bit like a defender of this former president in part to make sure that the
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voters who are so loyal to trump don't turn against the party >> yamiche, the response from republicans has largely been supported, including among his likely rivals that we just showed, but at least one presidential hopeful says he should drop out of the race. can you tell us what we've heard? >> what we've heard from republicans is largely a robust defense of former president trump, really saying that this manhattan -- this potential manhattan prosecution of him is really a persecution of him and that it's the wrong thing to do. take a listen to what some people including john bolton and mike pompeo have had to say. >> this is a political prosecution, and the prosecutor should not have made such a judgment to bring these charges gns against the former president of the united states. i think it will divide america in ways that aren't good for our republic. >> speaking as someone who very strongly does not want donald trump to get the presidential nomination, i'm extraordinary distressed by this document. i think this is even weaker than
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i feared it would be. >> please help president trump, if you can afford 5 or 10 bucks. if you can't afford a dollar, fine, just pray. >> so while it's interesting to hear all of those republicans really say either, one, the case is weak or, two, this is really all about politics, i will say that i think we're waiting -- and i say reporters and people who are watching this are waiting to see whether or not there are going to be any cracks in the republican support. i also wonder whether or not voters who didn't vote for donald trump in 2020, whether or not they're going to be motivated by these new charges, whether they're going to be motivated to sort of get behind him. i think it's a hard sell to make that's what he has to do is gain new voters if he wants to not only win the nomination but really win the general election. >> on that note, i got to be quick on this last one, the entire country is watching and reacting to the news this morning. we're going to show you some front pages here in battleground states what are we seeing with middle of the road voters >> you know, it's really hard after the very first day to say, okay, here's how the rest of the
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country views this, how people who are not on either end of the partisan divide take this news, but i'll tell you what serious lawyers have to say about this, which is there are serious legal consequences for donald trump on other investigations, and of those, there are more to come, right? there's more evidence to come out in this manhattan d.a. case, but there's a mar-a-lago records case about whether or not donald trump obstructed a criminal investigation to hold onto what he viewed was his property there's a lot more evidence to come out of that if jack smith decides to prosecute and there are multiple buckets of investigations about what donald trump's role was in trying to, for the first time in history block the peaceful transfer of power and overturn a free and fair election the results of that election so i think we should all just keep in mind it's going to be a bumpy night to quote a famous actress.
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we're going to have a lot more bumps in the road and we'll see how that affects voters who are in that, you know, middle ground. >> thank you. next, a likely tornado ripping through southeastern missouri this morning with reports of multiple injuries and fatalities what we know about the storm and the extreme weather across the south and midwest today. stay with us switching to verizon business internet. (woman) it's a perfect fit for my small business. (vo) verizon has business internet solutions nationwide. (man) for our not-so-small business too. (vo) get internet that keeps your business ready for anything. from verizon. power e*trade's easy-to-use tools like dynamic charting and risk-reward analysis help make trading feel effortless and its customizable scans with social sentiment help you find and unlock opportunities in the market with powerful, easy-to-use tools power e*trade makes complex trading easier react to fast-moving markets with dynamic charting
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we're following breaking news, report of multiple fatalities and injuries after a suspected tornado ripped through parts of southeastern missouri here you can see some of the damage there in glen allen, missouri right now there is an active search and rescue operation in bollinger county this could just be the beginning of today's severe weather. more than 62 million americans are in the path of storms today. nbc's maggie vespa is live from chicago, and nbc meteorologist michelle grossman joins me what's the latest we know about
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this likely tornado in missouri? >> yeah, lindsey, that video as you just showed is absolutely stunning we just got that into our newsroom the tornado that we were talking about going through early this morning, one of several lines of storms you can see that damage and destruction in a really rural part of the state. that's about two hours south of the st. louis, and it's missouri highway patrol that is now telling us about those, again, multiple injuries and fatalities on the ground. our affiliate also on the ground in the last hour, interviews from people in and among that destruction. let's take a listen. >> it was a lot of cracking, loud wind, and then we were outside looking at it, and then them two told me, my fiancee told me to run inside so we ran inside, ran in the bathtub, and it was in a matter of seconds, and then it just hit, and it was
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just awful >> so again, this is in glen allen, missouri, just a couple of hours south of st. louis. we're also seeing reports, we have seen reports over the last 12 hours or so of tornados touching down in parts of illinois that are just south of chicago, including in the peoria, bloomington area, fulton county, illinois, reports of destruction and damage there. this is a beaten and battered part of the country. we've had multiple severe weather systems over the last couple of weeks making their way into parts of the midwest, even the south like parts of texas, arkansas, mississippi, alabama people in these parts of the country just feel like this is sort of a dangerous and devastating broken record that they've had to just sort of keep track of, this latest round of severe weather putting people in these parts of the country at risk for the next several hours, people hoping they've seen the worst of it at this point. >> so michelle, what should people in the south and midwest expect in thecoming hours?
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>> oh, sorry, so we are looking at the chance for this strong cold front to move through really warm air. so the problem is it's really long it's stretching from michigan all the way down to portions of texas. back behind it, we're looking at frigid air we have blizzard conditions in portions of the northern plains. as this cold front is moving through, summer-like temperatures you're going to have that clash zone that's what we're looking at right now. looking at radar, you can clearly see where that cold front is very heavy rain, wherever you see those brighter colors, the yellows, the reds, the oranges that's where heavy downpours are happening. we're also looking at the chance for flooding, flash flooding you see those little boxes, those are watches and warnings we have severe thunderstorm watches in the yellow. severe thunderstorm warnings are in the orange, and then we have tornado watches in the pink. we don't have any tornado warnings right now we had one about ten minutes ago, but these are popping in. they're popping out. any of these storms could produce some rotation. when you get those warnings, you do need to heed your local authorities. you need to get to your safe place. we listened to that couple where
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they went into the bathtub that was a great idea. anything you can do to protect yourself we're going to continue to see these storms race off to the east we have a lot of electricity with these storms. you can see all that lightning that's indicating the amount of power these storms have, and we're going to continue to watch this over the next 24 hours. 62 million americans at risk for very strong tornados we could see e f 2 or greater. that's going to take some time for the national weather service to get in there and kind of do their surveying. we're going to see really large hail you can google and see the pictures from yesterday. we had baseball-sized hail and lindsey, we're looking at winds gusting up to 60 miles per hour when we see a tornado go through or really strong storm, we could see the winds higher than that. >> maggie vespa and michelle grossman, thank you. next, after the mass shooting at a nashville school pushed thousands to descent on the state capital building,
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first police officers to respond to the deadly nashville school shooting are revealing how they felt and what went through their minds rushing into danger and stopping the shooter it comes as authorities reveal more of what they found in the shooter's home including weapons, ammunition, journals, and a suicide note nbc's kathy park is with us now from nashville what else have we learned about the shooter, and what are we hearing from these heroic officers >> reporter: lindsey, good morning to you authorities are revealing that the 28-year-old suspect acted alone and planned last week's attack for months. and while we still wait for a motive, for the first time we are hearing from those responding officers who entered the building on monday putting their lives on the line to save others >> these are the fist responding officers who charged into the kcovenant school in nashville t stop a killer firing more than 150 rounds >> i couldn't get to it fast enough. >> not knowing what i was walking into, i went through that door with purpose
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>> within minutes of arrival, they describe the urgency to save lives >> saw shell casings on the ground, bullet holes on the door so i immediately made entry. >> reporter: officers rex angle burt and michael collazo ended the bloodshed that took the lives of six innocent victims. their body cams giving us a glimpse of how they jumped into action. >> once we started hearing the first shots that's when things kicked into overdrive. we had to push past the victim because we continued to hear more shots being fired. >> reporter: their quick response being called heroic as they put theirs own lives on the line without any hesitation. >> they were so in tune to try to get in and take this threat down that they didn't think about their own safety. >> reporter: nashville police still have not released a motive in the shooting but authorities say the attack had been planned for months and the suspect considered the actions of other mass murderers a search warrant at the assailants nashville home uncovered trove of clues including shotguns, ammunition,
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journals, year books from the covenant school where audrey hale was a former student and a suicide note as the investigation presses on, a renewed passion to protect >> me personally i took an oath on june 4th of 2012 to serve and protect this community my family sometimes comes second it has to. >> reporter: meanwhile, this heartbroken community still struggling to make sense of this tragedy. >> reporter: and lindsey, it's not just the officers being recognized for their quick response but the teachers as well who active shooter training. they were able to pull kids out of hallways, away from windows, and if they didn't do what they did, things could have been a whole lot worse. >> just incredible we heard one adult female in one of those 911 calls she said we're hiding in an art classroom closet and the dispatcher said keep quiet i talked to another teacher who watched that and she actually said they stayed calm. that's what i need to do
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she was watching that as a student. those officers are just incredible thanks for that reporting. also in tennessee, a controversial vote is set to happen tomorrow to potentially expel three democratic members of the republican-controlled house. republicans say the three democrats were disorderly when they joined protests at the state house last week calling for more gun control following the covenant school shooting those democrats are state representatives gloria johnson, ju justin pearson and justin jones. jones took this video on monday when the expulsion process began. she says it shows republican justin laugherty pushing him on the house floor. jones filed a police report after the incident, and tennessee state representative justin jones joins us now. thank you for being with us. i was at the rally on thursday in which people were calling for gun control, a lot of parents, a lot of young kids. talk to us about what happened during that day and also what happened with your colleague when you say that he shoved you.
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>> yes, thank you so much for having me. our community's in mourning. i represent a part of nashville and this happened in nashville, and the first action of my republican colleagues is not to pass common sense gun legislation but is to expel their colleagues, three of us, for standing with thousands of tennesseans, mothers and students and grandparents and community members who are demanding action we called for an assault weapons ban, and what we're seeing now is an assault on our democracy to silence the voices of not just us but of our constituents and silence the voices of a movement what is happening now is our state, lawmakers on the other side of the aisle are taking the unprecedented step of trying to expel us from the state legislature. this has only been done three times in tennessee house history. they're doing this as a way to distract from the issue, which is the mass shooting that happened here last week. >> representative, do you know where the votes stand at this moment i mean, do you feel like after tomorrow you'll still be a member there and go to work? >> the republicans have a super
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majority the speaker of the house is pushing for this expulsion he went on the news and lied and said these students and mothers and grandmothers were worse than january 6th insurrectionists the speaker of the house condemned the protests he's instigating violence. he is trying to foment this political lynching of us lawmakers standing with our constituents this is not about us this is about silencing the voices of our district those people are going to be lose their voice because of this extreme republican super majority. >> the house speaker did say that you walking up to the well of the house violated rules of decorum, as you mentioned he characterized it as an insurrection we didn't see armed people storming the state capitol i know the issue is so important to you and many of your constituents would you be okay with your
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republican colleagues doing what you did for this issue or any other? >> yes, we walked up to the well after repeatedly having our mics cut off. we were not allowed to talk about the issue of gun violence. throughout the week they would not let us speak as a minority party, and so we went up to the well because our people are continually pushed back and silenced and so the speaker's already taken our committees he's turned off our i.d. badges to get into the building he's limited our parking access in the state capitol, even though we still work here. so what happened was -- what we did was to dramatize the issue you were in nashville where john lewis talked about this history of good trouble, of calling attention to the moral crisis at hand what we're asking for is the speaker of the house to take action and to address the crisis of mass shootings in our state >> representative, we know that the governor of tennessee released a three-prong approach to bolstering school safety. it includes more funding for school resource officers or
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guards at every public school. there's no mention of gun law reform in fact, there are bills currently up before your general asemi assembly that would expand gun access can you talk to us about where your state moves from here with so many calling for change >> well, these young people, the thousands who you saw who walked out of class, it was the largest protest in a decade in tennessee. they're going to change, my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, i'm in the capitol right now and right below me there's a committee meaning, they're trying to arm teachers they're passing these laws that proliferate guns in our community. if guns made us safer, what is going on here. we had a mass shooting, my constituented were impacted in antioch with the waffle house mass shooting. >> i talked to the mother of one of the victims there who was surprised that five years later almost this month, no house has moved. tennessee state representative
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justin jones, we'll see what happens tomorrow, thank you for your time. >> thank you. next, a wisconsin election wow ser, what the result of the country's most expensive state supreme court race ever means for the future of everything from abortion rights to gerrymandering and the 2024 election plus, a political newcomer and former teacher now set to be the next mayor of america's third largest city, how a teachers union organizerea bt his opponent steve kornacki is here breaking it all down. (vo) if you've had thyroid eye disease for years and things are a no-go because you keep seeing double, or...your bloodshot eyes have you seeing red, it's not too late for another treatment option
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two races, two seismic political shifts we'll start in wisconsin and the results of an election that could have major implications for everything from abortion rights to voting rights. wisconsin voters elected judge janet pardisaywit ss, shifts the court's balance of power to liberals that second race in chicago where this morning there's a new mayor elect, progressive candidate and former teacher brandon johnson. here's what johnson said just last hour on "morning joe" about one of the major issues in the race, rising crime. >> i live on the west side of the chicago. my wife and i are raising three children we might be the first mayor ever elected to the city of chicago that will wake up every single morning in the most violent neighborhood in the city of chicago. all of us are going to come together to build a better, stronger, safer, chicago what's required in this moment is real collaboration. >> joining me now nbc news
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correspondent shaquille brewster in milwaukee and national political correspondent steve kornacki at the big board. what can you tell us about wisconsin's new supreme court justice and what her election means for the state? >> reporter: hi there. this could mean a significant shift in policy here in wisconsin. this supreme court, which has been conservative for the past 15 years has been at the center of some controversial rulings over the past, even just past couple of years. it's a court that shrugged down covid restrictions months into the pandemic it sided with republican-drawn maps despite the democratic governor here vetoing those legislative maps, and what we saw from her throughout her campaign was a unique strategy while she said she would never prejudge a race, she did say she wanted to share her values with wisconsinites saying one of her values was a woman's right to choose that is an issue that is likely to have come before this court in a state where abortion is essentially banned after the overturning of roe i want you to listen to a little bit of what we heard last night.
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zblp w . >> wisconsin voters have made their voices heard [ cheers and applause they've chosen to reject partisan extremism in this state. and second, it means our democracy will always prevail. >> reporter: now, this is a race that was incredibly contentious. you mentioned the record spending you mentioned the outside influence in it, and it was contentious and really nasty even beyond the final vote was cast we heard from daniel kelly last night during his concession speech he called his opponent a serial liar he said that she wasn't worthy of a concession. he ended his speech by saying, i wish wisconsin the best of luck. i think it's going to need it. a lot of intense emotions here in the state of wisconsin. >> help us dig a little deeper into both of these races.
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>> let's take a look at wisconsin. a year and a half from now the 2024 presidential election and i guarantee we're going to spend a lot of time that election night looking a the tht this state it is hard to look at and see a way the republicans win the white house in 2024 without winning donald trump as donald trump did in 2016 when he won the presidency with that in mind, what kinds of trends can we see from this race last night here with the democrat aligned candidate won by ten points. a couple of things jump out. number one, the suburbs. we have been talking about this for the last decade really, a big shift in suburban areas all around the country, suburban areas that were once reliably republican, moving away from the republican party toward the democrat it has been less dramatic outside of milwaukee i'm circling three big republican counties, traditionally republican counties they call them the wow counties, washington, waukesha and o'zaki right outside of washington.
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republicans have just relied on these counties historically to drive up huge numbers and drive them to victory statewide. what we saw last night was continued erosion of republican support this these areas take a look, i'm going to show you ozaki county here north of milwaukee. the republican aligned candidate kelly wins it, but look at that margin it's about 4.5 points. put this in some perspective let's just wind back the time machine here a little bit. in 2020, trump won ozaukee by 12 points in 2016 trump won it by 19 go back to 2012, mitt romney, barack obama, this was a 30-point republican county coming all the way down now to about county coming all the way down now to about a 4.5 point republican county we saw something similar in
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waukesha again that's a 16-point win for a republican aligned candidate look, trump was winning this in 2020, winning this by almost 30 in 2016. so erosion of republican support in those suburbs, and there's also you take a look they call these to the bow counties, three counties here, brown county, winnebago county you're looking at green bay, looking at appleten, oshkosh these are three counties donald trump won in 2020 and all flipped last night those are big trouble signs for republicans in wisconsin as we look forward to 2024 and the other big one was for the race for the mayor of chicago. mayor johnson wins this, very close race here. crime obviously, quality of life issues played a central role in this campaign. this had been in the preliminary round when lori lightfoot, the
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incumbent lost, the first time in 40 years the incumbent lost a re-election race in chicago, and this will end being the closest since that same year and this the closest election in four decades in chicago general election >> fascinating all right, you're getting us interested thank you so much. feks, a high stakes show of support. china is now reacting, though, to house speaker kevin mccarthy h'sigh stakes meeting today with the leader of taiwan. small business. (vo) verizon has business internet solutions nationwide. (man) for our not-so-small business too. (vo) get internet that keeps your business ready for anything. from verizon. >> woman: why did we choose safelite? we were loading our suv when... crack! safelite came right to us, and we could see exactly when they'd arrive with a replacement we could trust. that's service the way we want it. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪
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this morning secretary of state antony blinken took questions from a wall street journal reporter about her colleague evan gerschkovich who currently is in jail in russia >> there's no doubt he's being wrongfully detained by russia, which is exactly what i said to
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foreign minister sergei lavrov over the weekend >> those remarks after lawyers met with gerschkovich for the first time yesterday according to "the journal. the paper's editor-in-chief says his health is good and he's grateful for the outpouring of support he's received. he was arrested nearly a week ago after russians accused him of espionage charges both gerschkovich and the journal denied the accusations against him. in just a few hours house speaker kevin mccarthy is set to meet are with the president of taiwan in california china's government warned against the meeting and that the meeting would worsen u.s.-china relations. nbc's erin mclaughlin is live now from simi valley, california where the meeting will take place. what do we expect from the meeting and who else has the
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president met with >> reporter: hey, lindsey. this is being seen as a contentions moment, so much so words matter for example, this is not being called a visit it's being called a stopover as tsai transits from central america, her trip there back to taiwan she's expected to meet with u.s. house speaker kevin mccarthy as well as a bipartisan delegation of u.s. lawmakers. take a listen to what speaker mccarthy had to say about this expected meeting yesterday >> look, i'm going to sit down with the president of taiwan it's very important country we have to build together, our relationship and make stronger as we go through they believe in freedom and we're doing it at the reagan library, so symbolism there with how freedom and working together the world becomes a safer place. >> reporter: tsai had another transit stop or made another
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transit stop last friday in new york there she met with the democratic minority leader hakeem jeffries as well as a delegation of bipartisan senators including republican dan sullivan who was part of the senators releasing a statement earlier today and sullivan taking the opportunity to make it clear that u.s. lawmakers will meet with whoever they want especially on american soil. we also heard earlier today from u.s. secretary of state in his remarks say that china should not use today's meeting as an excuse fooratchet up tensions. lindsey? >> relations between the u.s. and china are the rockiest they've been in decades. how will this meeting impact that >> well, china has said it will have a severe impact on relations, but we have to understand at this point there are no talks happening between the u.s. and china on any issue even climate change issues they said they were willing to work together on.
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this comes after, of course, the spy balloon scandal and a speech last month by china's president xi jinping where he named the u.s. as leading a western campaign to contain and suppress china. so there's very bad vibe happening between these two countries. and china is saying that it's not overreacting to tsai's stopover in the u.s., that it sees it or perceives this as the u.s. entertaining the idea of taiwan independence, which would be a violation of the one china policy that the u.s. subscribes to china sees this not as a stopover or transit but something more organized, and that's why they made the reference to not making the past mistakes because the u.s. position on this is that these transits are routine for taiwanese officials. we're not likely to see an
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immediate reaction military wise in the taiwan strait because right now china's president xi jinping is hosting a state visit for france's president emanual macron, and it's not a visit they want to upset diplomatically, so there is the kperktation there'll be continued tension over this perhaps into next week >> thank you for your reporting. that does it for me this busy hour i'll see you back here tomorrow. jose dias reports start right now. and good morning i'm jose diaz-balart this morning new fallout in the political universe as trump goes from former u.s. president to criminal defendant after being arraigned in a new york hush money case we'll break down the unsealed indictment and the legal questions that remain still to be answered. democratic congressman bennie thompson who was the chairman of the january 6t

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