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of donald trump's indictment there was speculation mcconnell was waiting to comment until after specific charges were unveiled now it seems likely he won't respond until he is face-to-face with reporters once he returns to public peappearances. he had an accident recently. a spokesperson said yesterday, quote, if we issue a statement, we will let everyone know. and in california, the los angeles times reports that after three months of relentless snowfall, the state is now facing a flood risk from that snow melting, which could last for months officials warn that runoff from melting snow will send torrents of water rushing from the peaks of the sierra nevada to the flilf flf foothills and valleys thousands of feet below. the biggest threat will arrive once temperatures reach the 90s for an extended are period of time we'll be watching that that does it for us this
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morning, lindsey reiser picks up the coverage right now ♪ it's 10:00 a.m. in new york, i'm lindsey reiser right now the tensions that have been simmering in tennessee for the last week or even longer are boiling over this morning. protests are gaining steam inside and outside the state house despite the rain against republican efforts to do something that's only been done three times in that state since the civil war expel some of their fellow members specifically these three democrats are under fire for participating in fiery gun reform protests on the house floor last week. today they'll have a chance to defend themselves, but with a republican super majority can they survive the vote. we're live where that high stakes session is getting underway. major escalations in the mounting legal battles faceing former president trump former vice president mike pence saying he will not fight an
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order to testify in the federal probe. sources say the new york judge in the hush money case against trump has now received threats since tuesday's historic indictment the new actions to keep him and his family safe as stormy daniels makes her first on camera comments since that history making arraignment about the possibility of testifying against trump. >> i look forward to it, you know what i mean because i have nothing to hide i'm the only one that has been telling the truth. i think having them call me in and put me on the stand legitimizes my story >> and a deadly storm system is on the move this morning, threatening a huge swath of the country stretching from texas to new england. just after a vicious tornado yesterday tore through missouri leaving five dead and a widespread path of destruction we're tracking where it's all headed as the damage to the midwest comes into sharper focus this morning. >> glenallen will never be the
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same there's no doubt about it. >> right now it's about the families, it's about the loved ones it's about picking up the pieces >> but we begin in tennessee where the republican-controlled house is set to vote today on expelling those three democrats. that would take away representation at the state capitol for more than 200,000 people, that session just getting underway you're looking at a live look on your screen right now, nbc's priscilla thompson joins me from outside that capitol in nashville. also with kris brown, president of brady united and tennessee state senator jeff yarbrough who's pushed several gun reform measures this session. walk us through the process, what we can expect and what you're hearing from protesters >> reporter: yeah, lindsey, some of those demonstrators have made their way inside the building, but as you can see behind me, i'll step to the side here, hundreds of people out here, there are students speaking, young people speaking at the podium there saying let them talk in reference to those three
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democratic lawmakers, and you also see all of those folks up there near those capitol -- on those capitol steps with their umbrellas, with their signs. there were some men in suits who just came out on the ledge just above them, unclear if those were lawmakers or not, but they were looking at this scene that we are experiencing here in realtime of people calling for change, and some of the people that we've spoken to here are saying that this isn't just about gun reform at this point, it's about democracy the idea that these three democratic and elected lawmakers could be expelled by this republican-controlled legislature -- >> yeah, priscilla just so we can tell people what's going on. i know you can't see the feed we're seeing inside. we did see two of those lawmakers walk inside, one of them we saw raise his fist, so there's definitely an energy to today. i mean, what are you hearing from protesters about really the historic nature of this? are you noticing any people who
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are supporting this vote >> reporter: yeah, we have not seen people here who are supporting this vote i will tell you the bulk of the people that we've spoken to and we've seen are saying they want action on gun reform and that the focus should not be on these three democratic lawmakers and the fact that they joined in on these protests last week and standing with many of the people who were here, but that it should be on the issue of gun legislation. and i want to play some of the conversations that we've had so far this morning take a listen. >> the answer to all of these awful, terrible killing of our children in the schools is not arming teachers, but it is getting rid of too many guns on the street >> these children and the adults in that school will never forget this this is not something that is going to go away >> reporter: and today's session is expected to last anywhere from two to three hours, and this is expected to come up at the end of the session during unfinished business.
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these three lawmakers will have an opportunity to plead their case they will have attorneys there, and then a vote will happen. it requires a two-thirds vote to vote to expel them and in a republican-controlled legislature, it's very possible that that could happen, but of course there will be demonstrators in there filling the gallery, and this could get chaotic as we've seen in recent days with state troopers having to escort people out but it remains to be seen how all of this will play out. certainly all eyes on that chamber here in tennessee today. >> you mentioned they could have their attorneys present. i was talking to a lawmaker earlier today who said that there was some confusion and conversation around gloria johnson's pick for representation and whether he would, in fact, be able to speak without approval from the whole chamber. let's bring in senator yarbrough, and senator, tennessee has the 12th highest rate of gun deaths in the united states that's according to every town for gun safety and we know the tennessee senate judiciary committee voted to postpone all consideration of
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firearms legislation until next year, including your bill that would make it a crime to leave firearms in a vehicle or a boat without it being locked up another person i'm talking to in the chamber there is telling me this is semantics. what's your prediction for the rest of the session and how does it work also if the house decides to pass something firearms related >> well, look, i mean, i think what we're seeing today in tennessee is actually sort of the best of democracy and the worst. we are seeing students and parents that are coming and pushing us to take action, and then we're seeing the house getting distracted with this expulsion of rightfully elected members. look, i think that we can get gun legislation passed this year we are -- there is still plenty of time in the session there are numerous procedural vehicles for us to take up the safe storage legislation that i sponsored. we're working with people on the
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other side on extreme risk protection orders which would have been very vulnealuable in helping to stop incidents like the one we suffered here in nashville. >> we are seeing really an exroerd nar moment we're seeing protests in nashville. we're seeing protests from students across the country walking out of classes and demanding action here. one of the lawmakers up for expulsion told "morning joe" last hour that the legislature's first order of business in nashville in tennessee wasn't to address the concerns but to do this what are the solutions to this problem? >> the solutions are right before us in states like california and new jersey, in new york, in states that have actually embraced the idea that protecting public safety and stopping the number one killer of our kids, which today is gun violence, must be a priority so in tennessee, yes, the kinds of bills that the lawmaker we were just talking to is putting
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forward, extreme risk protection laws 19 states had in the district of columbia have those. expanding the brady background check system right now in tennessee, you can buy a gun online with no background check at all. that's insane. having a permitting system instead of repealing it, which is what the legislature did last year, banning assault weapons, restricting high capacity magazines. ensuring that there are safe storage requirements in the state. these are the kinds of laws that states across this country have adopted, and you know what happens when they do death and injury by guns is reduced. guns that are in the arms of people who are at risk to themselves or others have the capability of being removed, and that kind of law, an extreme risk protection law, for example, could have been hugely helpful in this particular case. i just want to say one more thing. democracy and gun violence prevention are completely linked
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these are not laws that are opposed by any but a few fraction of our society. 90% of americans want expanded brady background checks. and so to the idea that this legislature is seeking to expel individuals instead of who decry gun violence for our kids, instead of moving forward with these kinds of proposals that are pending in the legislature is appalling and it is fundamentally anti-democratic. that's why you see these young people and parents protesting. and we need to keep it up because we knead need to hold te lawmakers accountable for putting the gun industry before the looives of our children. >> we're looking at a live picture inside the gallery, people holding signs, no taxation without representation here senator yarbro, we know that house democrats proposed a bill with a super majority, unclear if it would go anywhere, which
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would include a red flag law, banning bump stocks and no more permitless carry we know the government has announced more funding for school resource officers but not any kind of gun reform at the present moment where do you' thi see this goinn your state i believe a live look here, this is one of the representatives, justin pearson of memphis who's facing expulsion today this is during the pledge of allegiance here. senator, where do you see things going here this session? any real change for the people protesting if they can look forward to and also, are you concerned about the precedent today sets >> so to answer the first question, nashville has had three mass shootings in the last five and a half years. in each and every instance, the family members or law enforcement knew that the perpetrator was a threat to themselves or others before it
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took place, but in tennessee, there's no procedure at all to make sure that we can stop those people are actually obtaining weapons or maintaining them, and in this instance with the covenant school, we had a person who was undergoing mental health care whose parents knew that she shouldn't have weapons, but was still able to go purchase seven weapons in five -- over the course of three years from five different gun stores, and that's just not common sense, and everyone knows it. regardless of whether you're a gun owner or how you feel about the second amendment, i think we all understand that there are some people who don't need to have weapons when they're going to pose a threat i think we are finding progress a little bit it's a glimmer of light and we are working right now to turn that into a window of opportunity with our friends across the aisle what's going on today is a disproportionate and dangerous precedent. typically expulsion from the
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tennessee legislature has been reserved for the most egregious offenses, not even when people are indicted, but when they're convicted of felonies. that is when there have been traditionally been expulsions in tennessee. because three members in the midst of a gun violence epidemic and national tragedy joined with protesters to demand change, that is an abhorrent reason to consider removing them from office >> kris, do you feel given the amount of protests is demonstrations we've seen, some people that i've talked to in tennessee believe both activist and lawmakers alike believe that if people keep the pressure up, something can change and be done do you share that feeling? >> absolutely, es, i do, because we've seen that happen in other states. let's look back to the horrific shooting at marjory stoneman douglas high school in florida,
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and before that shooting, florida, for example, did not have an extreme risk protection law. after those protests and i participated in many of those at the state capitol, florida adopted a number of laws of course ron desantis took them back a bit just now by signing permitless carry, but they advanced the three different kinds of protections including the kind of protection here that is so basic that when i talk to average everyday people they can't believe it isn't in every state, which is removal of guns from those at risk and we have heard so often as we just heard now that the signs are often there, especially with mass shootings why are we depriving citizens i the state of tennessee from being able to take steps to protect their own citizenry. and indeed across the country what has always made the difference is exactly this individuals saying i've had enough lifting their voice, and
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peacefully protesting, which is what is happening today. to realign and get lawmakers to understand this issue is not going away, and until they vote for our safety instead of the gun industry, they will be held accountable. >> kris brown and state senator jeff yarbro, thank you so much our thanks to priscilla thompson right now they're doing roll call we'll continue to watch the proceedings and report back with updates. much more when we're back in 60 seconds, including stormy daniels speaking out for the first time on camera after former president trump's arraignment. and could vice president pence's potential testimony in the special counsel's january 6th probe be a turning point for the case plus, an update from missouri, a state highway patrol on the tornado devastation as we track an outbreak of dangerous storms sweeping across several states, still trying to recover from extreme weather. idaho is the first state to restrict interstate travel for abortions, the implications for
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the legal headaches facing former president trump are getting more intense this morning on multiple fronts on one hand, as former vice president mike pence now says he won't fight an order to testify in the federal probe of his actions on january 6th, and on the other, adult film actress stormy daniels is talking publicly for the first time since trump's historic arraignment centering around the all all alleged hush money payment made to her on trump's behalf dasha burns is in west palm beach, florida and also on set, danny cevallos. how significant is it, his participation in this grand jury, and how soon could we see it happen? >> it's only significant if there's some piece of information that mike pence has concerning his communications with the former president that
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we don't already know about. and a lot of this universe may already be known if for no other reason than folks like the january 6th committee last summer pieced together a minute by minute breakdown of where everybody was and what everybody said at different times during the january 6th siege, and we all know that mike pence was there and so, i can't imagine there are too many communications between him and the president in the moment, but perhaps leading up to it, we've already heard about meetings where trump is berating pence, imploring him to do something that pence knows is wrong. we already know about that if there are additional conversations that could possibly incriminate the former president, that may be what special counsel is trying to do. or it may just be a case of special counsel wants to make sure all the bases are covered and no stone is left unturned. >> dasha, is there any sense from within trump world after this pence news that things are really starting to hit critical mass legally for the former president? >> reporter: lindsey, listen,
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what i wouldn't give to be a flay on the wall behind those closed doors of trump's legal teams conversations, but the sense that i get from trump world itself, especially from the campaign side is that, bno, they're not necessarily concerned about this their take is the former vice president. he's already written a book. he's written op-eds. he's gone to town halls. he's given interviews. what more is there to learn? well, we don't know, right there could be additional significant information as danny said, but the sense that i get from the inner circle of trump's world is that they're really feeling emboldened by this recent indictment by the show of force and show of support from the republican party across the board, and they feel like that will carry over to these other probes, these other investigations as well, lindsey. >> danny, i want to play a part of stormy daniels' interview with piers morgan. >> have you any kind of closure
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with your time involving donald trump to see him jailed? >> specific to my case, i don't think that his crimes against me are worthy of incarceration. >> if you're the d.a., how do you feel about stormy daniels giving interviews like these she's a potential witness. >> yeah, i wouldn't be too worried about whether or not she thinks president trump should go to jail for this alleged crime but i would be concerned as would any prosecutor about a witness, potentially important witness, going out isand giving interviews alvin bragg has that problem in spades you have michael cohen giving interviews, stormy daniels giving interviews. alvin bragg knows when that happens the defense is sitting there with a legal pad, taking notes and they may try to introduce the interview itself in video to the jury if there's anything inconsistent with what they plan to testify about but you know, the reality is prosecutors are prepared for the fact that witnesses, witnesses
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like cooperating witnesses, which is what michael cohen is akin to. those are people that have credibility problems, and so they know that they're ready for it, but certainly alvin bragg is not happy that witnesses, potential witnesses are out there giving intervaus. it would be the same problem if the defense had important witnesses out therine doing the same it's unnecessary risk. for alvin bragg and all the litigants here, the only important ball game is the trial, not interviews. >> dasha, the trump campaign last said they were up to $12 million just since news of the indictment broke we can't confirm that until the official filings are out but is the feeling here that all publicity is good publicity? >> reporter: well, lind see, i'll tell you how one republican operative put it to me after this indictment and after the charges were unsealed, the anti-trump lanes in the republican party are virtually
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nonexistent. those doors are closing, and they are closing fast. i mean, laook, you've seen even his opponents and potential opponents come out in full force against this indictment, attacking the d.a. and you've seen the grass roots as well. look, it's important to sea the republican operative as and alls and the big names in the party come to his defense. if those numbers are any indication -- and by the way, of that 12 million, the campaign tells me about a third of those donations are coming from new donors so that means if they're to be believed, and we will have those records eventually to check them, but if they're to be believed, that means also the grass roots, the voters, the base, they are coming out in full force to his support as well that seems to track with the conversation that i've been having with republican voters as well so right now this indictment is really propelling him into the republican primary as full, full front runner status here,
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lindsey. >> two sources tell nbc news the judge presiding over this case is getting threats what can be done about that? >> very little if it doesn't involve the president. the problem is this is probably the only defendant in the history of defendants who has this kind of power and minions out there who do dumb things when they hear him say things, even if trump himself is not delivering a threat. this is a conundrum. i expect the judge is going to try and stay above it for as long as he possibly can and only intervene and issue some kind of order if he absolutely has to. he doesn't want to wade into first amendment issues >> thank you both so much. so far in 2023, there have been more than 480 reported tornados, double the average this early in the year the latest community torn apart, glenallen, missouri. >> power went off and the house just started shaking. >> glenallen will never be the same there's no doubt about it. >> we have a live report from the devastation, and an update from a member of missouri state highway patrol about rescue,
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millions of americans are still staring down the threat of severe storms after tornados and thunderstorms devastated parts of the south and midwest yesterday. in missouri at least five people are dead, several injured, after a tornado with winds topping 100 miles an hour tore through bollinger county and then in kentucky, thousands of people lost power after strong winds knocked over power lines in illinois, the national weather service says one twister lasted more than 20 minutes and covered roughly 18 miles nbc's maggie vespa is live from hard-hit glenallen, missouri also with us, nbc meteorologist michelle grossman. maggie, what damage are you seeing, and what are the next steps for people there >> reporter: it feels like we've been saying this so much in different communities across the country. the devastation here in glenallen is absolutely gutting. it takes your breath away.
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in a painful twist of fate, we're standing on what was the foundation -- it's still the foundation but not much else of the glenallen fire department. this is basically now just completely destroyed it's now a concrete slab with just pieces of the building and litter basically at this point, just kind of scattered around it we have a ladder here. we have firefighter uniforms here in the background we're told firefighters were racing here in the wake of the tornado to get their equipment and help victims when the tornado destroyed this building after destroying several homes you can see efforts to get power restored here in glenallen are ongoing, crews have been speeding all around town trying to get power poles back up, trying to get power turned back on for everybody in the area who still doesn't have electricity, but just look at the wreckage basically in the foreground of that shot. this is what we're seeing all over town. people here again absolutely devastated we just talked to a state trooper here in town, authorities here in town telling us they know that this has been happening in other communities
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this happened recently in arkansas we were down in mississippi just last week in the deep south. that community decimated by these long track tornados. you said it just before the break. more than 480 so far this year typically this time of year in early april, we're at about 250. so this has been a devastating year this is just kind of the latest chapter. lindsey. >> wow, maggie, thank you. so michelle, these storms that damaged parts of the south and midwest, they're heading east now. what can the east coast expect >> hi there, lindsey, so good to see you. the good news is we're not expecting widespread tornadic activity it's going to be quieter today which is good news the tornado risk isn't zero, but it's very, very low. the main risk will be wind and also some hail as we go throughout the afternoon hours but let's go ahead and take a look at a flood alert. we have a risk for flooding not only today but tomorrow and also saturday 8 million people impacted by flood alerts where you see the green, that is a flood watch. we're going to see rain day after day. it's all due to this same cold front that's moving through.
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it's sort of going to park in the south, that's where we're going to see rain over this area for several days red over corpus christi, that's a flash flood warning. that means flooding is happening right now or it's imminent we're going to see them popping in and out throughout the day and over the next several days this is what it looks like on radar. you can clearly see where that heavy rain is. where you see those brighter colors, the oranges and yellows and reds that's riding right along the front there. we're looking at a lot of lightning on the southern end of this cold front. that's because we still have ha l lot of energy. we're going to see some thunderstorms in the mid-atlantic by this afternoon and this evening concern about a flash flood risk in portions of the south into the gulf coast states because of those high fall rainfall rates, especially are whwhere you see t dark blue. austin, san antonio, and also corpus christi look at these amounts. we're looking up to 6 inches of rain over the next several days. this is the start of the easter
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weekend, and it's going to be a wet one for many we are looking at the chance for severe storms, the greatest threat being some high winds that's in portions of the mid-atlantic back to you. >> michelle grossman, thank you so much. and our thanks to maggie vespa and your crew on the ground. for more on the recovery effort, i'm joined by the public information officer for the missouri state highway patrol. thank you for being with us. i'm sorry that we're talking under these circumstances. what can you tell us here about the damage in your state and what are you seeing with homes and businesses >> the homes and businesses in the glenallen area have been severely damaged some of them just completely destroyed yesterday the crews went around and observed 123 houses, 76 of which sustained some type of damage, 34 were okay, but 13 were completely destroyed. first responders have been out workingall night long trying t restore services and power to the area, so today we're into more of a recovery mode, just
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trying to restore the services to the people of the community >> and so does that mean, sergeant, then if you're in recovery mode, that there are active search and rescue operations unfolding right now. >> the teams that went out yesterday, they went house to house, door to door. everybody in the path of the storm in the county is accounted for and we don't -- everybody has been accounted for, so at this point, you know, we don't have anybody missing or anything like that. s sadly, we did have five fatalities in this, and we will be releasing those names later on today however, at this point everybody is accounted for. >> sergeant, anything that you guys need right now? >> well, right now we are managing the volunteers, their organizations on site that are taking care of, you know, just what we're doing right now we've got plenty of food and water at this point. the parking lot yesterday was full of first responders, today
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is full of heavy equipment, bulldozers, excavators, tractors, that sort of thing to assist so we're working through that system, getting the needs in place, and then using those resources in a proper manner >> all right, sergeant clerk parrott, thanks for taking time out of your busy day. >> thank you. idaho's governor just signed a new law, the first of its kind creating a new crime of so-called abortion trafficking what it means for young women relying on neighboring states for abortion access. protests in france int intensifying over pension changes passed into law. what we're seeing ahead. you can't always prevent what's going on outside... ...that's why qulipta® helps what's going on inside. qulipta® gets right to work. in a 3-month study, qulipta® significantly reduced monthly migraine days... ...and the majority of people reduced them by 50 to 100%. qulipta® blocks cgrp-- a protein believed to be a cause of migraines.
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pills or bringing minors across state lines for the procedure. it's the first law of its kind in the country supporters say it will fight, quote, abortion trafficking, while opponents say it will harm young women and it promised a legal fight. nbc's ali vitali is covering the law for us from washington walk us through how this law works and whether there's any indication other states will follow suit. s >> reporter: look, this is certainly the first law of its kind that we've seen it's exactly the thing that advocates have been concerned about. the ways that states are going to try to restrict and potentially prosecute people who try to go outside the state to get borks care n abortion care. if you are prosecuted for this and found to be guilty of it, you could go to jail for two to five years, and this applies to anyone who helps a minor who's pregnant get an abortion in at state, but it also includes
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access of the abortion pill. and i think it's important for us to note here that the abortion pill, especially in states like idaho and other rural states that already lacked access to care and had distance and travel as a barrier, especially during the pandemic, we watched the fda make it easier for people to access this kind of abortion care through telehealth and through other mechanisms, even being able to receive the abortion pill in the mail certainly now in idaho that would be near impossible within 30 days because that's about how long it will take for this law to go into effect, and i think it's also important to note that they're not just putting this in place for any regular person who might help a minor access care, they're also saying this would apply to medical providers who might refer clients out of state for abortion care or even to be able to pick up the abortion pill over state lines. the other thing i would point out here, lindsey, that's important, is if local prosecutors do not move to prosecute these cases, the state
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ag can also pick them up meaning that enforcement is a key here to this bill >> rachel, what are you hearing from people in idaho about the impact this will have? >> i mean, i think that what's obvious is that this is an admission from, you know, the extremists that are pushing this agenda that they acknowledge that folks are going to continue to seek abortion care folks are going to not want to prosecute these crimes because they're not, in fact, crimes, and so the fact that, you know, young women specifically are being targeted by this just demonstrates exactly how out of touch these laws are with what the people want in idaho and across the country >> rachel, to make sure that the law wouldn't violate a constitutional right to travel between states, this law makes only the in-state part of the trip to an out of state abortion provider illegal as i mentioned, we can expect a legal fight here are you concerned about other conservative legislatures enacting similar legislation >> i mean, of course, i'm coming to you from texas where there's already laws that encourage to a
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certain extent vigilanteism around people are trying to criminalize folks seeking, you know, life saving abortion care. i think we should be very concerned about all of these laws where a very small group of people are trying to turn americans against americans for seeking health care, even if it doesn't extend past the borders of the state, any policy inside of a state like this is already extreme, and so when we say, well, it's not as extreme as it could be, that's a very slow slide into authoritarianism, and i think that we should all be very concerned about its effects on democracy. >> ali vitali, rachel o'leary carmona, we'll have to leave it there today. thank you. lawyers for fox news are preparing for something that looks more and measureore likelt billionaire rupert murdoch will have to take the stand fox has argued that his testimony is not necessary
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attorneys for fox have already agreed to let hosts including tucker carlson, sean hannity and maria bartiromo testify at the trial. jane tim is covering everything about this legal fight does this mean we'll definitely see murdoch on the stand >> it certainly seems like we're going to see the mogul in court in person. the judge said this witness is pretty critical to dominion's case and gdominion is trying to prove that fox corporation was involved in the statements the only way they seem to be able to prove it is hinge it on the mourdock's involvement in the post-election period, the intimate handling of editorial coverage that we see in some of these emails that have come out as evidence, that's where they're trying to go fox, of course, says that demanding witnesses is the statement from a fox spokesman, demanding witnesses who had nothing to do with the challenged broadcasts is just the latest example of their
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political crusade in search of a financial windfall but there's -- these emails are pretty stunning when you see the realtime connection between the murdochs and the coverage in the post-election period as the judge put it in his summary judgment motion, reasonable jurors can disagree z and it's the 12 jurors who are going to have to decide. >> thank you. next, taiwan's future in focus as china blasts speaker mccarthy for meeting with the island's leader. the message the u.s. is aiming to send to china as a group of lawmakers visit the island right now. plus, the ongoing protests over france's pension reforms growing more violent today the latest in paris, next. new apps fast using the services you want in the clouds of your choice. with flexible multi-cloud services that enable digital innovation and enterprise control, vmware helps you innovate and grow. y'all wayfair's got just what you need for your home. do they have stylish beds at great prices? and enterprise control, whoo, this bed is dreamy.
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this morning protesters also stormed the paris office of black rock that's the world's biggest money manager, and video showed protesters entering city hall with red flares and smoke bombs. yesterday rat catchers hurled rodent cadavers at city hall the interior ministry says today more than 11,000 police officers have been deployed across the country. 4,200 in paris french president macron survived a no confidence vote over the plan two weeks ago let's go to nbc's foreign correspondent claudio lavanga, and french journalist for lci. she was a spokesperson for president macron's campaign in 2017 claudio, first off, what's happening? what are you seeing? >> reporter: hey, lindsey, while the protests have been going on for weeks in france, and especially after in the past 11 days, after the prime minister used special constitutional powers to push through that reform that you just mentioned
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to increase the retirement age from 62 to 64, but they have escalated further since yesterday, since wednesday after talks between the prime minister and trade unions have broken up. now, you've seen that in those pictures, the hundred trade unionists who have been protesting, they stormed the whole of a building in central paris that is housing the office of blackrock, the u.s.-based investment firm. they were holding red flares they were chanting anti-reform and anti-government slogans. they were firing smoke bombs and fire crackers, spent about half an hour in that building and then they left elsewhere as you've seen, i don't know whether you've seen the pictures, but elsewhere in leone, protesters have been clashing with police have responded with fire gas, tractor drivers have joined the protests by clogging and blocking all the roads in that city, and then 100
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protesters blocked the access way to paris charles de gaulle airport. certainly that gives you a sense of how protests are escalating in france. >> laura, what can you tell us here about how significant this moment is? >> i can tell you at this moment that in paris the situation is not really good because a few minutes ago, there was fire and there were some grenades which have been fired near a restaurant on the left bank in paris. and that's really important because the restaurant was the restaurant where the french president macron celebrated his victory of the second round of votes in the 2017 presidential election >> wow >> again, a few minutes ago you had the restaurant , which has
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been set on fire there's no injuries, but it's extremely symbolic, lindsey. >> yeah, we can see in the video right now what looked to be potentially workers there trying to just pour buckets of water on that fire that you're talking about. just stunning images here. laura, you know the president. is there any possibility that the government will reverse course in response to these protests? >> no, absolutely not. the french president is completely determined to make this reform. according to him and his government, france has to adapt to the globalization so another huge problem because all the polls are showing that the population does not want this reform. i can just tell you that after the strike today, which is, again, a general strike, the unions just announced that there will be another strike next
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thursday so a lot of people here in paris and all over france are extremely worried about what could happen with this breaking between the french government and the demonstrators. again, according to the ministry of interior, we do not have official figures about how many people are in the street today, but we can clearly see that it's hundreds of thousands of people and not only in paris, but in also other cities in france who are opposed to this reform. >> i mean, we've seen some of these demonstrations, laura. do you feel like what we're seeing today the last couple of days is a flash point? >> i think it's a very important day today the government is saying the demonstrators are going to be tired, and they're going to give up and one we can see that again, people march in thousands of
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strikes and now it is national wide and there is a huge fear among officials that the young people are going to join the movement and you have to remember that the story in france, in 1968 there was a revolt of french young people and people here fear that if suddenly young people, teenagers, children, are going to the streets next week and are more and more in numbers, joining the unions, that could be for a lot of analysts a kind of new french revolution and, again, it is now really personalized. and you can really see the public anger united after prime minister who used the article to push the pension reform. and also the french president. in the demonstrations, you
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really see people against the french president three weeks ago, they were saying, they were screaming, we beheaded a king in 1879, we can do the same to you, emmanuel that's a minority, but it is really, really -- that's why people are worried here. this public anger against the french president >> i mean, quite the rhetoric there. as we're watching the live images here, i'm seeing people really of all ages is the public sentiment here against this type of reform, is it spanning multiple demographics and ideologies? >> yes it is absolutely right to point that out because at the beginning, you know, it was a demonstration against this reform and against the fact that the prime minister used an
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article and said, okay, we want this reform to happen. and now it is much more that an anger against the pension reform it is about something else and people are worried, people have in mind what happened in january 6th, people have in mind what is happening all over the world in democracies and, again, the french are in the streets, they do not want this reform. they also, as i told you, a kind of public anger which is not good at this moment. >> all right, laura haim, thank you for that we will keep our eyes on that and we still have our eyes on nashville, tennessee, where we just heard from state representative justin jones, one of three democrats facing expulsion today for participating in gun reform protests on the house floor. he was admonished multiple times for speaking off topic we'll keep monitoring this hearing. but, first, the growing tensions
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promised president tsai unwavering support here's what he told andrea mitchell after the meeting >> do you worry that meeting with president tsai in the united states is going to further escalate the tensions? >> it shouldn't by any means i would sit down with president xi macron is sitting down with president xi we're making sure the rhetoric doesn't get higher, we're looking at how can we deter that war does not happen, right peace through strength >> the meeting drawing a strong reaction from beijing, with the chinese foreign ministry accusing tsai and mccarthy of promoting taiwan independence. the ministry said china would take measures to defend its national sovereignty joining me now from beijing is nbc's janis mackey frayer. how significant have these meetings been for the taiwanese government and what is the reaction in beijing? >> reporter: well, it is important for taiwan's government to shore up the support that it can. certainly from the u.s., in the
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form of weapons sales. but also diplomatically. tsai ing-wen was on a tour of guatemala and other countries that have still maintained diplomatic relations with taiwan just two weeks ago, honduras decided to cut ties with taiwan and establish relations with beijing. so, this was important timing for president tsai, but also very coincidental timing with the diplomatic frenzy that has been under way in beijing today. not only was there the foreign ministers of saudi arabia and iran shaking hands over this landmark deal that was struck a few weeks ago to re-establish diplomatic ties, but, of course, the state visit of french president emmanuel macron. sitting down the street tonight with xi jinping, macron saying he was going to use his private time with xi jinping to impress
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upon him the need to use his clout with vladimir putin in order to bring about a cease-fire in ukraine. but bringing it back to taiwan, there was actually rather muted reaction here today. for the past few days leading up to the meeting in the u.s., there were the threats of retaliation by beijing, there were the words of condemnation that the meeting would go ahead. but we didn't see those words matched with actions today in the form of military drills. it is still a possibility that it could happen in the coming days or weeks ahead, but for the most part, beijing seemed very focused on its own role as a global diplomacy today and not wanting to upstage itself. >> janis mackey frayer, thank you so much for that reporting that does it for me this hour. we'll be

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