to members of the bohemian grove which is a secretive all men's club and to indonesian driving instructors. we piece it together wit records we got from sources an from the information act, an eventually we put it all together >> all right, josh kaplan grea reporting. thank you for joining us that is all in for the week, alex wagner starts right now with ali velshi. >> this is why i have neve taken friday night light >> i'm violate >> it's hospitality, i suppose >> that's gonna be a investigative story about me making me taking rides o e-bikes. >> the point you made is one that's important the man's job is to judge, our job is like, that it's for u all the. time and you just say, tha wouldn't pass the smell test >> the guidelines are ambiguous, what should you do here. that's what he does for a job. >> i agree with.

you thank you for that great reporting. -- pro that propublica kind o stuff. thank you for joining us tonight, alex's office evening she will be back nex week we're gonna start the evenin with breaking news out of texa were trump appointed federal judge has issued a ruling th lava act on the lives of nearl every person in the country. why do we say every person because it's about every perso who can become pregnant, everyone who cares about someone knocking apartment, an everyone who cares access to regulated drugs. pretty much everyone has a stake in the case. it revolves around the first o two pills better use i medication abortion. mifepristone, first approved b the fda in the year 2000 it's been used overseas fo that gates before that but tonight, the approval is o pause. because of a case brought by a group of conservative christia lawyers, with a history of failed lawsuits talkin transgender student athletes months, ago one month ago, the

lawyers on behalf of antiabortion organizations and doctors argue to the u.s district judge, matthew ka merrick, that the fda lacked the authority to approve mifepristone it didn't adequately study the safety and efficacy. they argue, the drug was not properly vetted when it wa approved nearly 23 years ago. they argue that the fda, the food and drug administration did not have the power t approve the job. which begs the question, i they don't the judge has merrick to revok the fda's approval of the judge, which is been used by millions of people across the country safely i might add, they asked him to order the judge peopl from shelves, nationally whether temporarily or permanently. they wanted access to a drug that's used more than half o all abortions across the country. the drugs that safer than pill like tylenol, viagra, an terminated revoked

the antiabortion with it's bee attacking the fda's approval o mifepristone for more than 2 years. they've been dreaming abou this mentoring for decades they got it. at least the first taste of it in part, the cause micro eas the ruling a few hours ago the judge ruled tonight that the fda of mifepristone in 200 was wrong, he's temporaril invalidated the approval fro 20 plus years ago. passive, tonight this judg says mifepristone is no longer fda approved for nationwid distribution hub the judges also decided that the order won't go into effect for another seven days fro now. given the conservative fifth circuit court of appeals and the united states supreme cour the opportunity to see kacsmaryk's order. it would probably appeal any ruling that reverses mifepristone fda approval, tonight before airtime attorne general merrick garland issued this statement, quote, the

justice department strongl disagrees with the decision. and will be appealing th court's decision and seeking a stay pending appeal. the department is committed to protecting americans access to legal reproductive care. i quote. we'll watch to see how the biden administration respond to this ruling a judge in washington, washington, state mayo provided another room fo mifepristone to -- tonight, that federal judge, the same level of rock in th judge issued an injunction prohibiting the fta from movin mifepristone from the market and 18 state that really, like isn't direct conflict with the ruling fro judge kacsmaryk, and texas where do we go from here, in the whole country grapples wit the major access issue, what i the fda, and what is the federal government do now. and i noticed today asked. joining us now is -- president of nehra pro-choic america. and lauren jarrett, nbc senior news correspondent

let me start with you. we had this response from th department of justice. and even before we have that we have this thing we don' normally see on the same day minutes apart from each other. competing rulings that are unplug well to the same agency >> and arguably, in conflict with perhaps not in conflict everywhere that's one of the issues how is the fda supposed to abide by both of the rulings kacsmaryk put his out first, saying that the fda, you do no have the authority to do this. i'm putting it on hold however, i'm not gonna give th plaintiff exactly -- it was a nationwide injunction immediately. instead, you say the dus department - and try to go to fifth circuit court of appeal, and try to ge my order put on hold as of right now, people should understand that the drug i still in circulation it's not being really from the market i think it's important for our audience to understand that. however, as you pointed, out i a different judge just minutes

later says, no, no, no wait minute, actually the dru should stay in circulation, it should maintain the status quo so for instance, what happen in eight days from now, judg kacsmaryk, in texas, his order goes into effect so, in a place for instanc like illinois, which is a part to the washington lawsuit. what is the fda supposed to do how is it supposed to comply with both of those orders. and that's why the justice department, this case is almos immediately headed to th supreme court. it's gonna have to reconcile these things >> many, i'm gonna ask paschal friction - plea planted abortion. one campaign planned to have mifepristone, should people be getting it now should they be talking to th doctors and hanging on to. it is it a particularly safe drug i preplanned my tyleno stopping in my house >> american should be planning their reproductive health care absolutely stock up on plan b the morning after. pell but, yes on mifepristone, washington state and the participation for the stat

file that case, there a.g. the in stock piling mifepristone to it's an important point, ali in these times you need to mak sure they're ready and prepare to protect yourself. we know, mifepristone's been safer for over two decades it's safer than tylenol. and it's been a critical way t get very safe access t abortion care, regardless, o where your at but i think the mos important thing i want to make sure folks understand about th case is this was an effort at a backdoor national abortion ban opponents of abortion have middle to pass the abortion ban, supreme court only bad abortio in states that were willing to do so. and this is a way for them t get an abortion access to th most harmful - safe abortion access in all 50 states you pointed out, it's alarming it's the core issue at thi moment >> laura, what's the reasoning behind the argument, that th fda doesn't have the authority to approve this drug and i thought the fda ha

authority. >> it's more that they wen about it the wrong way it's not that the fda doesn' have the authority to approv drugs. it does that every day i don't think their argument i really that, their argument is more, you didn't take into account the safety concern that we have asserted, and the judge has bought into that wholesale, this opinion is chalk through of mine that makes it very clear the judg is totally on their side i that regard. on that issue, and a number of other issues, but obviously, the justice department has put forth a litany of evidence t suggest that this drug is safe and effective, and that it has said basically you don't get t second guess the fda's authority on that, i, ghan this is never been done before and it's never been the case that a federal judge has essentially told the fda, what to do about a drug that it thinks is safe, over the objections of the fda. >> interestingly enough, many, the fda doesn't take other companies research when it

comes to drugs, it conducts it own research but this drought, i believe wa invented in france, maybe i' making this, up 1980 o something it's been a long long time. it's widely loose across europe, and its efficacy and safet have both been heavily researched and proved. >> yeah, extensive trials when this was introduced in the united states. the reason behind, you pointed it out in your intro, this cas finally got airtime with matthew has merrick, he's trump appointed judge. he's an extremist with ties, t extremely consider - organizations like liberty institute. this organization is as yo said, created a ne organization in amarillo, to get in front of him becaus there's been efforts for decades to undermine the fda's authority here it's been tested, it's bee trialed, it's been on th market for over two decades. so left, at the end of the, da may or not been the attempt of the alliance are hippocratic amidines organization that was made up to file the case

to undermine the fda but it's important to know tha that's exactly what woul happen, and even if you don' care about abortion we know th majority of americans do car about abortion, and are with u on this issue, including 49% o republicans, and want to see medication abortion approved even if you don't care about abortion the fact that this would undermine decades of fda authority is chilling, i should affect every single american, everyone should be outraged we've seen strong statements from the doj, president, vic president. the democrats in congress. and it's important to note that - the already settled up and ready to fight, it's gonna b critical what happens in the next couple. wakes >> - actually brought that case laura, i don't like to weigh into your lane there was something interestin that the judge said. judge kacsmaryk, said the fda' face political pressure to quote, increase access t chemical abortion. what we're calling medicatio abortion it's almost like he was saying part of his ruling was to give

the fda cover from what he say is the pressure that they ar facing to increase access. >> i'd like to see is evidence for. that >> i don't know how tha works? >> it's interesting, a lot o these arguments aren't eve arguments that the plaintiff proves made. at the hearing on this, week ago, he was of a outpourin different arguments, ways to knock this down that the group themselves hadn't even put forth. it's just interesting how much sort of advocacy you saw, from the judge on some of these issues obviously, he'd, say, look o the judge, i have the law right, as a matter -- typically, the planet's need t be the ones to raise the issue in the first place >> that's why it's strange, sh was offering them a figliuzzi. many, without mifepristone there's a second drug, it' generally given a two drug cocktail for slightly differen purposes, mifepristone was additionally approved fo different purpose when it wa first invented

without the axe tone t mifepristone, the second dru can still work tell me about that, it efficacy, and why it hasn' been targeted the same way >> we're surprised it hasn't been targeted the same rain we should be worried, paying attention to make sur that it's not up next. but misoprostol is the second, drug you can have a misoprosto protocol for abortion. it's definitely still availabl and we want to make sure folks know that they can request tha drug as well, the same when yo said folks go out and reach ou to the doctor is about makin sure they have access to mifepristone typically, in the next week that beings, that h believed firmly, americans, an dr. provider should be have th right to provide any type of a medication abortion, or an kind of abortion care that i legally allowed. mifepristone is the most popular because th mifepristone and mifepriston cocktail, as you, said i

frankly the easiest, it's th least painful, it's the most comfortable for the majority o patients if that makes sense -- prefer protocol by the majorit of providers , think technically, asked, yo can still get a medication abortion care after th decision should there not be a stay that being, said we should hav the right to have access to th best protocol for us for our, bodies what our providers want to. have and this is the mos popular procedure. the most popular karen abortio care over 50%. and the fact that it's being taken away in this manner in a threat to abortion care and threat to wreak productive freedom. and the nature of the case i the fact that it got in fron of the one specific judge in this, very, very problematic play it is an overall indictment on our. corryton and overall - it raises questions abou judicial ethics that when it begin to with our friends in congress in the next comin

weeks. >> i think it's worth noting it's not just about abortions. mifepristone is used to manage miscarriages so, these decisions expose the slippery slope between how w talk about abortion and how we talk about managin miscarriage. we talked to doctors leading u to one we thought that thi decision might come out week ago, and one of them told, me, look more women are going to die as a result of this becaus you cannot manage abortion properly, you get infections sepsis, we've seen the horro stories, it just worth noting think for the judge, this is he's obviously catching it i terms of abortion, and certainly how these groups hav styled, it and what th interest is. but for many, many would'v taken mifepristone to manage miscarriages, this is disrupts their access >> all three big blocks of states in the south, miscarriage no savvy women and their doctor fear they might get prosecuted if they'r having miscarriage there are women who seek the care fo

miscarriage because they'r worried that there is -- >> there's doctors that will prescribe the drops they'r worried about getting -- slippery slope thanks to bot of you >> - thank you for making time this evening for us all right, we've got more to get to including why som republicans are feeling regret at alarm after seeing what happens to their party whe they began on taking awa reproductive freedom, class, two black lawmakers expelled from the tennessee house yesterday. get a visit today from the vic president, kamala harris more on that just ahead.

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>> the republicans gathered in january for the first part meeting since their big re wave for the midterms became allred puddle. they adopted this resolution affirming the republican's commitment to life they specifically gave thi prescription for the nex election cycle, quote go o offense in the 2024 election cycle, and expose the democrat extreme position of supporting abortion on demand and quote, go on offense now that marching order migh come as a surprise to anybod who thinks the republicans induced fall of roe v. wade is the force that shook the 202 midterm elections. but regardless, republican resolve to double down wit more anti abortion legislation more antiabortion candidates

this, week one lawmaker an idaho describe what that posture look like for th actual humans. including the voters in he state. which banned at a state travel for abortion from minors >> my mom would say she paid i forward, my dad did. and i want to do that for my grandkids. but i can't encourage my two daughters to settle in idaho with the laws we have in the box. i would be terrified, have m daughter is trying to carry pregnancy here this is not a safe place to be pregnant i think the statute is turning families apart >> feeling the lawmakers concerned about being able t be there both for her agin parents, and our futur grandchildren. was idaho's new law creating a crime called abortio trafficking. it means if you help a perso younger than 18 years old, travel foreign abortio procedure, or the pick u abortion medication withou permission from a parent o guardian you could face jail time if you're an aunt, uncle

grandmother trying to help you pregnant relatives, you can go to jail. today in texas, a woman is burning a premature daughter after only 33 weeks of pregnancy. 20 weeks into our pregnancy th woman learned that her fetus had a fatal condition. the brain and skull would neve develop. the baby would not survive lon after. the doctor told her quote, because of the new laws yo don't have any options you need to go on with you pregnancy. her newborn by just four hours after being born in, florida governor ron desantis is expected to soon sign a six-week abortion ban after the state senate approve a bill this week despite fears public opposition, the chamber had a positive i the bill for ten minutes a protesters screamed, peopl will die and that's just the thing, eve just in the state of florida this legislation is unpopular. most floridians disprove of th supreme courts with dobb decision recent polling shows 64% o americans believe abortion should be legal in most cases. voters largely back abortion

rights take a look at the wisconsin supreme court election thi tuesday. liberal a line judge, janet -- trounced her more conservative opponent in our race of open seat on the states highest court. for to save its has been - abortion writes her defeated implemen expressed his opposition t abortion he lost by 11 points as michelle colbert wright cit piece for the new york times titled, the abortion ban backlash is starting to freak out republicans. the, quote you cannot messag away forest birth. republicans political proble is twofold their supporters take th parties position on abortion seriously. and now, post, rosseau it is everybody else and. quote joining us now is ne york times columnist, michelle goldberg, michelle, great to see you. thank you for being with us. let's first talk about what' happened in amarillo, texas, the federal judge, judge kaz merrick ruling - political in the way that it

was brought, the group who brought it form them selves in amarillo where there's only one federal judge, it happens to be this guy, everything about hi background suggest how we woul have ruled on this thing and even in the ruling, he seemed to be giving cover to the plaintiffs that they weren't looking for. >> it's a shocking ruling. i also think, i've learned about -- the law that brought margare sanger, the law that sandr murder was arrested on a drug - d h lorenz i think it's worth noting that a good part of his ruling is about imposing the calm stoc act. a lot of people didn't bothe to repeal. they basically assumed anythin became a dead letter post fo roe v. wade. i also think it's a reminder that nobody in this countr under a post-dobbs regime, i doesn't matter if you live i the bluest city, blue is state your act is to reproductiv rights are not secure.

and that's what this reall aims to, daryl the abortio pill is already banned in many many states in the country, so already banned in texas, the want to pull it off the shelves, in new york, in california, in every state in the union and what we've seen in these post-dobbs elections is th issue has been most positive i swing states, places lik michigan, wisconsin, where the election >> -- going to sway abortion laws in immediate ways again, people in new york an california need to be cognizan of what's happening. >> you think about michigan an the victory of the fou democrats at the highest level in that state. so much of that was about th fact that they had a ballo measure, a positive ballot measure, enshrining abortion rights but there was also a lot o election denial -- not quite clear what motivated what look at the ballot measur

starting in kansas, last year. more no matter who put the ballot measure on, what side o the equation you are on, peopl responded to same way, whether you are in a liberal o conservative state folks don't want this stuff. >> montana - kansas, montana, kentucky, over, and over again these ballot admission is when they're put tua straight up or down vote. the american peopl overwhelmingly want abortion t be safe. the problem is that republican largely do not i mean republicans don't overwhelmingly approve the dobbs decision but you said before, 64% o americans want abortion to b legal. in all our most circumstances. that same poll shows that 63 of republicans don't wan abortion to be legal are all i most circumstances this is why you have a party that is hostage to the - for 50 years now >> let's talk about that, an culture. i want to do it then and now

when roe fell. and culture made a comment tha said, outside the media no one seems especially bothered by the decision she's now put out a statemen after wisconsin to say, th demand for anti abortion legislation just cos republicans another crucia race pro-lifers, we won, abortion i not a constitutional right anymore. please stop pushing strict limits on abortion or there will be no republican left it's an interesting comment. i don't pull-up and colter tweets on this show to make point. but even influential conservative standard bearer like her, are saying the strategy is wrong. >> right, and it's not just an colder, it's the wall street journal editorial for variou other conservative figures tha are starting to say, we cannot get elected under thes circumstances. but the problem is of course the reason that th antiabortion movement ha crusade against roe versus wad for almost 50 years. was not because they thought i

was a great just as a matter o constitutional law, it's because they wanted to do what they're doing now, and that' maybe a little some republican who are happy to harness all o that passion when it help them they didn't realize that the were serious, they intended -- all across the country >> let's talk about that lindsey graham talked abou introducing a bill for 15-week abortion ban, at a federal level, interesting, mitc mcconnell came out and said, i think most members of my conference prefer that this be dealt with at the state level. that maybe mitch mcconnell reading tea leaves about the 64% of americans who don't support abortion, even thoug 63% of republicans - while 63% of republicans do. at the same time, this whole let the states deal with its staff, hasn't worked out all that well. throughout the southeast of the, country you have basically a block of states where abortion

is effectively impossible to get. >> effectively impossible to get, and you know if you showe even in some of the earlie stories, even when the presidents is medically futile even when the woman's house, are even the life is in danger it's striking that tennessee recently, because there's so many horror, stories they trie to pass these very, very narro exemptions to abortion bans. and it got stripped down s much under the pressure of the antiabortion movement, first they took out some thing tha would've allowed you to have a abortion when the pregnancy wa due. they took out rape and incest. eventually, into passing thi ridiculous law that basicall says that if you perform a abortion to save it, someone's life you can use that as a offensive court. -- no one is going to want to treat a woman in crisis unde the circumstances.

but that the regime that we're in and if that's not antiabortion activists intended, they hav trifectas in many of the states there's nothing to stop them from amending the, loss but they don't want to do that >> michelle, it's an important call thank you for being with us. michelle goldberg. we appreciate your time. lots more to get to. coming, up clearance time this is taste for luxury, vacations and aboard yachts, provided by a genotype mogadore is raising questions about gifts, and supreme court justices are required to disclose but first, two black lawmakers ousted by tennessee state hous over gun reform protests now a symbol for the fight for democracy in this country. they might not be gone for long we'll explain, up next hawaii was too expensive so i brought it here. you know with priceline you could actually take that trip for less than all this. i made a horrible mistake. ♪ go to your happy price ♪ ♪ priceline ♪

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>> it's been just 24 hours since republicans in the tennessee house of representatives voted to expel two black members over there participation in a protest for gun safety at the tennesse capital. already the move sparked a national uproar, and a show of support for the two eslami garage today, president biden invited the tennessee lawmakers to the white house as vice presiden kamala harris made a surpris visit to nashville to show support for them to ex members of the tennessee legislature. and a third member who misse being ousted by a vote >> they understood the

importance, these three. of standing, to say that peopl will not be silenced to say about our democracy here's the cross - here is the pleas. who here is the demands of its people you say the children should be able to live and be safe, an go to school, and not be i fear [crowd chanting] support is flooding in fro across the country, senato chris murphy, noted supporte of gun safety advocates he say he's raised over $400,000 to help reelect the two men in th special election to fill the vacated seat under tennessee, law the count government and the districts represented by those expelle lawmakers will now get to point -- tennessee house.

already, the majority of members on the nashville metro council have vowed to use thei power to try to re-appoint the ousted member justin jones, wh represents that counter, and ladies in shelby county, tennessee, said they'r exploring whether they can reappointed the ousted member, justin pearson, of one of th expelled lawmakers - are considering refusing t seek the lawmakers if they are reappointed. >> the question is will they see us, we've heard from the other side that they may not see it as even of our counci appointed. even if we win special electio they won't allow us to b seated it's another affront to democracy that we saw with charles ivan, when he was young man in georgia when they refused to seat him. i don't know what to expec from this but i hope the natio sees, the alarm is blaring loud, but as if it happened in tennessee, cannot been anywhere >> if it can happen in tennessee, it can happen anywhere, joining us now i

manuel raven, as chair of th democratic party, first blac person to hold that position i tennessee. the mystery most, thank you fo joining us >> thank you for having me >> are you surprised the reaction are getting across th country. i understand your counter poin in less constant called you an said, we're gonna help and their evening and help you raise money to get these two reelected. >> absolutely. the outpouring of support ha come from every state in the nation it's come from sitting governors, state party chairs, it's come from elected officials at all levels of government, who recognize what we're facing here in tennessee >> talk to me about th conversation you have fo instance with the head of th party in wisconsin >> we talked about some of the difficulties that tennesse legislature has, on the people of our state we've also talked about some o the opportunities that we've had to make a difference acros tennessee. we're actually in about te days, will begin a trial on ou

redistricting of the state house, state senate maps they also had a conversation about some of the ongoin issues that representative have faced, its side of th state legislature. we talked about a litany o issues >> the redistricting matter is an interesting one you have some real representation issues in tennessee, which result in the kind of legislature that you have right now tell me about what this cases, how can make a difference fo this type of movement, thi type of grounds wall of people who want their elected representative to do their bidding, to fulfill their well >> after republicans gerrymandered the maps i tennessee, we vowed to challenge them in state courts we felt they'd be illegal. rightfully so, they were illegal. we had a successful beginnin stage of that litigation, with the state senate maps were struck down, say it appealed t the state supreme court, for

the entire case to b dismissed. the state supreme court upheld it and sent it to trial that will be again, in just ten days and pretrial hearings, th state axed again for the cas to be dissidents but a chance early court denie the request. we feel good about the merit of the case. and the bounds of what i represents it was a clear violation o tennessee state flaw that really specifies ho redistricting should tak place. we didn't sue based on racial, political gerrymandering we sued based on a clear violation. and illegal gerrymandering o the state maps i think we're gonna be successful once this litigation, once the trial wraps, and th litigation is over what >> you did not see what the basis of racial -- re-seems to be playing a par in this though there are three members, who was expulsion was voted on to them got expelled, one miss being expelled by one vote, an

she made a comment as sh walked out when asked abou that she said, maybe it' because of the color of my skin the two black members go expelled, what do you make o that >>, blah, obviously i think th general public will be able to decide for themselves after th hearing yesterday. i think republicans left tha question lingering was this racially driven if you look at some of the issues we faced in tennessee during black history month, we had representatives who were wanting to strip john luiz's name off the street sign and replace it with donald trump boulevard. we had those sam representatives offering u lunging as a way for people to be executed in the state in the same legislative genera body, the general assembly, we had sitting speaker on the house having a public meltdown with the former democratic caucus chair about whether o not he was racist, or whethe

or not their race based issues happening in the state legislature. there is a history of racial overtones. that i think the public is beginning to galvanize aroun and say something's not righ here >> i want to play somethin that justin jones said on meet the press. it's interesting, his speech i the legislature went viral and i think that may have helped the cause. the way in which he presente the case but listen to what he said o meet the press >> i ran for office someon that spent ten years doing community organizing i was one of the younges lawmakers, black lawmakers are trying to represent my generation, and they told me that, basically, i'm a pretty, i need to humble myself. i said i'm not coming your a -- a legislature. a colleague. unequal. >> that's an interesting point he makes but this generational issue is interesting. the idea that these are youn people, who grew up with these gun drills, active shooter drills and things like that. who are angry about what

happened in tennessee. and they seem to be more i sync with the public the legislature in general does? >> absolutely. i agree. you can see that by th outpouring of support in protesters that showed up at the tennessee state capital. and peacefully protested they didn't come there to brea the law. they came there to make sure that they could help change th law. to save their own lives. look, in the state legislature these representatives are no stranger to justin jones they know that he's been standing up in that same building fighting as an activist. and trying to move - all across tennessee for years. so, there are no stranger to justin jones, they know that he's outspoken, they knew when he got there that he would be voice for constant change. and he has continued to do that, and as the chair of our stat party, it makes me proud to be a democrat in the south. we need more people stepping up there were confederate statutes,

in our state capitol building, there are no longer ther because of the persistence, th standing up of justin jones. we need to applaud, that recognize. that became they're fighting a racist element that existed in tennessee. >> - thank you for joining, us we appreciate your time >> thank you, ali. >> coming up, supreme cour justice clarence thoma speaking out over a report detailing luxury gets accepted from longtime friend a friend who also happens to b a major gop donor, why his defense is raising mor questions about the ethica standards placed on th nation's highest court that's just ahead. stay with us ♪ ♪ ♪ introducing astepro allergy. now available without a prescription. astepro is the first and only 24-hour steroid-free spray. while flonase takes hours, astepro starts working in 30 minutes. so you can [ spray, spray ] astepro and go. no, no, no, no, no, no, no. there's a problem with my paycheck. it's short. someone messed it up?

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pro public has amazing work, the l.a. times reported that their 2004 story apparently had an impact after it was published justice thomas stop disclosing gifts all. that was almost 20 years ago and today reacting to th propublica article, justic thomas explained why he said quote, only in my tenure at th court, i sought guidance fro my colleagues and others in th judiciary. and was advised that this sort of personal hospitality fo close personal friends, who di not have business before the court, was not reportable. i have endeavor to follow that council throughout my tenure and have sought to comply with the disclosure guidelines. unquote. for someone who call themselves, and original us, this is a stretch. while it's true the suprem court justices aren't required to follow a code of conduct, they have a disclosure wir meant. besides, he's saying h accepted all those expend, jus luxurious gifts including

500,000 dollar trip to indonesia. and nearly summer retreats a harlan crow its late great - disclosing them because they qualified as hospitality i'm sure someone in these lega circles can look up th definition of hospitality. and argue, the justice has a point. but what about this quote, for lacrosse when the federa aviation administration on flight aware, suggest that thomas makes regular use o cruise planes. the jet often follows a patter from its home base in dallas to washington, dallas airpor for a brief stop, and then o to a destination that promises the visiting and back again. twice a brazen, years the chat has followed the pattern whe thomas appeared in crows properties and dallas. once for the january 4th, 2018 swearing in of the fifth circuit judge james ho a quiroz private library and again for a conservative think tank conference that gro hosted last may. even under the most farfetched

of perpetration of the word. that's not hospitality that's someone using someone else's private jet for persona use. the most shocking part of it all, is just a start - which brings me to the other thing he said today, quote these guidelines are now being changed as the committee of th judicial conference responsibl for financial disclosure for the entire financial missionar just this past month announced new guidelines and. that's right the new guidelines, in a wink, winked justice thomas says tha personal hospitality does no include gift of aid food lodging or entertainment i'm not a transportation and substitutes or commercia transportation and it explicitly states, that stays on property facilities owned by an entity, -- must be disclosed, even if they're owned wholly in part o in part by an individual

unquote. our friends at slate raised good question about this and that question is whether quote, the new guideline captures - first time ever. orphaned merely bolts, italicize, and underlines what should have already been obvious. and that's the real issue here that there should have bee obvious to a supreme court justice. and while it's unclear whether thomas has violated any law or regulation by accepting such gifts, and not disclosing, the i have two distinct, fires one is that thomas understands he' wrong, he was just trying to hide what he did, or, to which is my biggest fear is that he' not wrong and what he's been doing could just be business a usual in the court we have one more story for you tonight about potentia democratic challenger to joe biden. in the 2024 presidential race one that trump adviso steve bannon's reporting reall excited about. th'sat up next blood when you brush could lead to worse over time.

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little longer. that does it for us tonight. alex is back next. week you can catch me this weekend on my show, 10 a eastern, and this week's meeting of the velshi banned book club. judy alvarez will join me to talk about her modern classic, how the garcia girls lost thei accents. the book follows the forme sisters and their parents from the dominican republic, to the streets of new york city it's written reverse karadzic. lay the reader discovers the four girls distinct worlds and identities piece by piece decades after its publicatio it's still deeply resonant it talks about family dynamics adolescents, and the - time now for the last word wit jonathan capehart. who's in for lawrence tonight. >> hey, ali velshi, great to see you, thanks very much. >> have a great show >> all right this historic week rolls on. monday, donald trump arreste and charged with nearly thre dozen felonies tuesday, voters in wisconsin and in the right-wing lock o