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answer so let's get started breaking news, access to the abortion pill, mid upper stone and legal limbo after duelin federal rulings. what does this mean fo tightening reproductive rights in america plus, support for the tennesse through pouring in, by's president kamala harris me yesterday with the lawmakers after the republican-controlle house votes to kick two of the out of the state legislature i will speak with the member who managed to hang on to he seat by just one vote. and later, michael cohen i will go one-on-one with th star witness in th unprecedented indictment of former president all of that and more is coming up our good saturday morning to you i am katie phang we begin today show with breaking news out of texas the fate of abortion access fo

tens of millions americans i now uncertain after conflictin decisions by two separat federal judges late lost night first, a texas judge blocks th food and drug administration's approval of the abortion pill, mifepristone the ruling is on hold for just seven days and attorney general, merric garland, along with th manufacture of the abortio pill and the fda were quick to file former notices of appea to the conservative fift circuit. second, just a few minutes after the texas ruling, a judg in the state of washington issued a separate decision regarding the same drug. and that judge granted a victory to a group o democratic attorney generals who wanted to protect abortion access but that ruling would only apply to the 18 states tha suit in the washington decision meaning that right now, th fate of a pill that is use nearly all medication abortion in the united states i frighteningly uncertain. there's a lot to sort out here

so let's start with nbc news white house correspondent, allie raffa. ali, good morning. i just laid out the lega nightmare that we are in but what are we hearing from lawmakers, particularly from president biden? >> good morning. the decision was expected for few weeks now from texas it came as a shock to many considering the safety recor of the drug and the fact tha it's been fda approved for ove two decades. it's also the most commo method used in medicated abortions and it's more popula after roe v. wade wa overturned last summer this could be come the mos consequential ruling o abortion access since there an it's bringing the portio access - president biden reacted to thi ruling saying that it poses risk to embolden rights across the u.s. because the court substituted its judgment for the fda. the president said in statement that if this rulin were to stand on there would b

virtually no prescriptio approved by the fda that would be safe in these kinds o political ideological attacks. adding the lawsuit in this ruling is another unprecedente step in taking away basi freedoms from women and puttin their health at risk vice president, kamala harris, echoed that sentiment, sayin the decision undermines at the fda ability to - like him a fairy drugs and insulin, for example senate majority leader, chuc schumer, said in a statement that democrats remain committe to enshrining the women' protection act which would codify abortion rights international law. you'll remember that was attempted shortly after roe wa overturned last summer it lacked the votes needed t pass notably, katie, very littl reaction from lawmakers on the other side of the aisle. that's definitely somethin we're continuing to monitor as this case possibly becomes a new test for the supreme court which could have the final say here, katie. >> thanks to you, allie raff

live this morning. joining me now so we can take deeper dive's alexis mcgil johnson. she is the president and ceo o planned parenthood's federatio of america alexis, i know you're busy since last night but i wante to address this. as women wake up in americ this morning there are, as i mentioned, dueling federal court rulings on whether the can use mifepristone at this point, and practically speaking, what kind of guidanc is being given to women wh want to use the abortion pill? >> practically speaking, mifepristone is still availabl at least for the next seve days you are absolutely, right wome are waking, up patients ar waking up with appointment this week. i think it's very important fo us to reassure that they wil be able to seek abortion car in mifepristone, where it is available. but the bigger point here, i think, is that this is a crisi of democracy when you can have one activist conservative judge make decision like this, file a

opinion like this that is so politically motivated that it' not grounded in anything but junk science, he cites the jun science that was put before hi by antiabortion opponents in a way that really contradicts th 20 plus years of safe access t mifepristone that women have relied on to and pregnancies safety it's a crisis of democracy and health care. >> alexis, to that point, let' be clear the fda approved the use o these bills 23 years ago they've been used safely republicans and antiabortion groups are claiming that the fda failed to adequately consider the safety risks of the pills. but major offense -- occurring in about 0.3% of cases. what is the potential impact o the fda's approval process as whole? should this texas ruling b allowed to stand >> look, i think the vic

presidents comments were spo on, we are talking about a unprecedented challenge of the fda's approval process o medication not just of massive purse down but it threatens the fda's approval and authority when you have an opinion tha is second guessing the science it is also second guessing our ability to make decisions abou our own bodies, vertical proposing the fda. i was pleased to see the wor charge in washington role that the fda isn't allowed to pol mifepristone, and to creat this tension so that w actually can identify a way fo us to move forward >> you speak, alexis, about th tension between those courts it's no secret the judge matthew kaz mark, the texa judge, he is an uber conservative trump appointee who pretty much signaled fro the get-go that he is going to rule against women's reproductive rights. the plaintiff in that case

basically -- to get its case before thi judge. is there a fear that mor reproductive rights could be o the chopping block if litigant can cherry-pick judges lik this >> well that is why it's a crisis of democracy upfront, we're seeing it exactly play out as they intended the judiciary is in disarray when you are guaranteed to get judged his merrick in th northern district of texas when you know that that will b the judge that will decide issues related to abortion rights there is a title ten that came before him, as well as a effort to defund planned parenthood that is before hi case now we know that the appeal will g to the fifth circuit, which is also conservative and now up t the supreme court. they have created and weaponiz the judiciary system in a wa that completely contradict where the majority of american people are

we saw it play out in wisconsi this week, a landslide victory in the state supreme court where voters showed up and sai we want access to secure our abortion rights. we want to get rid of laws tha were created in 1849 t determine whether or not we ca control our own bodies and, yet you have a judge that can make a decision abou whether or not we are able to, in the privacy and safety of our own homes, and pregnancies and make decisions about our future and our family and ou lives. people have been very clea about what they want to do they do not want thi judiciary. they do not want politicians o activist judges involved i making that decision for them. >> alexis, thank you for joining us this morning. we will obviously have a com back as we keep track of wha is happening with this particular decision as it's in conflict with the washington

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>> the fight for democracy i of unfolding right before ou eyes in tennessee. vice president, kamala harris, made a trip to nashville t meet with former state representatives, justin jone and justin pearson current state rep, to gloria johnson. and a tweet, the vice presiden made her position clear saying that the tennessee three won't be silenced and their demand for gun reform must be heard the meeting coming less than 2 hours after the republican-led

vote to expel these lawmaker from the tennessee state legislature. republicans claim the tennis 3 violated house rules by leavin a peaceful nonviolent protes in the house chamber, demandin action on gun violence yet those republicans only expelled the two black members and spared the third white member instead of working towards solutions to prevent gun violence, this is what tennessee republicans ar focused on suppressing the voices of thos who speak up for justice and for our children's safety. i have the honor of sharin this time with tennessee state representative, gloria johnson she is the one representativ who survived that expulsio vote representative johnson, it's a honor to have you on the sho this morning look, republicans accused yo and justin jones and justi pearson with disorder an dishonor to the house. let's speak frankly. how did this republicans not bring shame and dishonor b making such a blatantly racist movement expelling only the tw youngest black members of th house? >> i think they have brought

dishonor to the house. over the last few years, multiple times but this was just incredible that they did something like this for such a small an fraction, disruptions on the house, floor that we've seen i the past much more severe than this and yet for only the fourt time in history, they decide to expel members for that smal -- a few seconds -- it was maybe 15 seconds before the speaker called recess. so most of the four or fiv minutes we were up there was during recess. >> tennessee house speaker cameron sexton, pushback o claims that racism had anythin to do with expelling your tw black colleagues but not you he said in an interview on fox news that you are, quote trying to cloak racism in this

which there was nothing on this they were all given du process. look, i followed what wa happening that day as it was occurring to you and you colleagues what are you saying about hi defense of due process >> i'm, there was absolutely n due process. that was a kangaroo court. i mean, we went in there - my counsel had requested t have video he refused us video. the first motion they make whe we get started as to allow their video. we had not seen their video, w did not know what they wer gonna show even when they told us wha their video was, they said i was just that day on the floor it actually wasn't just that down the floor, they had edite other things in. so it was a farce from the ver beginning. the document that they had for me had multiple things liste in it that i absolutely clearl

on their own video did not do. it was absolutely not do process, they know it, but world saw it and it was abou silencing the voices who wer speaking out against gun violence because they had no interest in taking real action to prevent children in tennessee from being gunne down in their classrooms >> and what is your reaction now to - sorry go ahead >> the speaker actually went o fox news the day after and sai that - accused the parents, the toddlers, the teenagers were there of being insurrectionist and trying to rush the chamber doors. none of that ever ever happened at some point in the day there

was a scrimmage between couple of teenagers in the highway patrol but that's the only thing that happened it didn't happen at the same time as when we went to th well and they conflated all of those things and put togethe this video it was still an incredibly peaceful day we were out there talking to parents. parents were telling us ho afraid they were to drop their kids off at school tha morning. >> that is the most importan issue. the reason why you wer protesting in the first place. and you, along with mr. jone and mr. pierson, represent about 200,000 constituents how do your republican colleagues really think that disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of voters of thi elected representative is goin to go down >> it's really not a good look i don't think they expected th support that we have on both sides of the aisle i mean, the reality is, during my last election last, year we polled on common sense gun

legislation. i have brought red flag laws two times in the past, planned on bringing another. i haven't written up overwhelmingly, a majority o republicans, are u independents and democrats i my district favor red flag laws and other strategies like safe storage laws universal background check with no loopholes. overwhelmingly, both sides o the aisle. they have made a hug miscalculation here and thei efforts to keep their a+ ratin with the nra and the tennessee firearms association >> well, i want to thank, yo tennessee state representative gloria johnson, to fighting th good fight, getting into goo trouble in continuing to mak sure that the children are going to be safe to the best o your ability thank you for joining me thi morning, i appreciate you. >> thanks for having me. i appreciate you for having us >> and joining me now to

continue this conversation i tennessee congressman, steve cohen. he sits on the house judiciary committee, served as a tennessee state senator fo nearly 25 years. congressman, it's always a pleasure to have you on th show after former state representative, justin, jone was expelled he said quote, we have lost democracy in tennessee. how worried are you for th future of democracy in you home state >> well, the tennessee - has gotten worse and worse the tennessee three are al beacons of democracy and peopl speaking up for the district and raising the right issue. gloria has been doing that for years, and the two justices ar doing that now, they are newly elected freshman the houses and republica controls, majority control when i was there the democrats always had a majority, sometimes a narrow majority. the senate always was majority, and how she won in the house. now they're just five senators out of 33. there is about 23 or four or five reps out of 99. the republicans are drunk with

power. they are running over th minority and they are doin pretty much what they want what they did with guns, makin them more available in our state, is unhealthy. what they have done with the appointment of judges electing -- the legislator taking away fro the system that we had working for over 200 years - close to 150 years - they change that have more control over the judiciary democracy has been at risk what happened over this past week, we are ashamed of th tennessee general assembly of the state of tennessee. i've had other times where i'v been ashamed of the state from actions, but never of th general assembly like this this was beyond -- these people should be allowed back in, i'm sure the county commissions will recommend the and they will serve the rest o their appointment and they wil be elected by the constituents

of course it will cost us mone but that doesn't seem to bothe these people but they turned out family planning, money aj tybee money -- they never expanded melia kade which we gave them 1 million dollars from the government to do they won't let the federal government tell them what to d and i won't give any money t planned parenthood which gives condoms people to protect from hiv and a.i.d.s. and they don' have pregnant women who get th family planning money -- because the federal government -- of abortion. because of these reasons - tens of millions of dollar from the federal government. it's like a theocracy up there we need gloria johnson, we nee justin pierson and justin jone up there to let people kno that the barn is on fire >> congressman, i've got les than a minute. i want to ask, we've reached a point where gun violence is leading cause of death for children in our country. right now republicans ar

controlling the house. if the death of children is no enough for them to act, what can congress do to protect them? >> we've tried in the past, we passed a bill last year afte uvalde we commend chris murphy and -- for their work north carolina, truly -- we could work on red flag laws there's a chance there could b a red flag law that could be passed we put a lot of money in state -- some of the states will ge near them for some strange reason, across no judges o something. we need to have. that there should be an assaul weapons banned maybe we can limit at least wh can carry an assault weapon or who can own one to some extent history of mental illness, background check - some program to limit who ha those weapons. that's the real problem. what they did by protectin schools with security officers and more mental health dollars has nothing to do with wha

happens in las vegas, wher lots of people were shot dow in gay clubs in california orlando, churches in south carolina, texas, movie theater in colorado and other places malls, walmarts, el paso none of these laws affect thos things at all. that's where most of the masters happened we need to protect our childre but we also need to protec america from restricting weapons of mass destruction, semiautomatics, automatics tha are the weapons of choice an they need to be -- the nra has a grip on th republican party >> the united states congressman, steve cohen, than you so much for joining th show and theringer insight we appreciate. you >> are welcome, kate coming >> up, former fixer t star witness michael cohen joins me next to break down his ex -- ex boss is no good very ba week and protections for what i next to come in the arrest and potential trial of donal trump. stay with us stay with us

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the 2020 election and no indicted former presiden donald trump was arrested at this week. as trump was pleading no guilty to a 34 felonies and lower manhattan courtroom, all eyes focused on that man d alvin bragg's and this other than trump, there was on of the man who feature prominently in that case michael cohen. the one-time attorney and fixe for trump, cohen watched his camera loving former bos looking very unhappy as he was led by law enforcement into th courtroom where he faced the judge he has reportedl attacked with posts on his social media platform. so what to make of this week's historic moment? joining us now is michae cohen. he is the host of the podcast, co-host of the political breakdown podcast, as well a the bestselling author of both revenge, how don trump weaponize the u.s. departmen justice against his critics, and disloyal, a memoir, th true story of the former personal attorney to donal

trump. michael, good morning, thank you for joining us how did it feel to watch tuesdays arraignment of donald trump on 34 felony counts of falsification of his records >> you know, it is interesting because so many people contacted me, whether it was b social media or texting saying this must feel great, finall there is vindication that is not how i felt, that's not how i felt at all. i'm glad that accountability i finally at donald's doorstep at the end of the day, it is a very sad day for america in th fact that he is the firs president in u.s. history to b indicted it is such a terrible look for that united states of america, especially in the eyes o foreigners, in the eyes of our allies, and i think it als shows an inherent weakness t our adversaries.

it is a terrible day for america. but it is a good day for justice and accountability >> michael, you toward rober costa the expect to see quote, complete and total mayhem at trump's arraignment. yet, there was a total dug there, a very few supporters and no protests. we did see trump slink back to mar-a-lago immediately after that court hearing your thoughts on what trum then try to grandstand while h was in new york city >> first of all, that is one prediction that i could not be happier that i got wrong i was right on so many predictions, this is one tha i'm ecstatic with the tens and tens of trum supporters that were there including marjorie toile greene who just sat there an the second she got to new york she got the bronx cheer and ra her right out. i think she was here for all 3 seconds. she realized there was n support. the same thing with jordan santos

he is another one that got booted out of the downtown are extremely quickly. the one thing that of course that we all saw, and on one ca say whatever he wants. we also look on his face as th door slammed the police office didn't eve hold the door for him as he wa coming through you could see the look of, not just anger, but fear, complete and total fear in his eyes that is why he needed to run back immediately to mar-a-lago so that he could go ahead an he could inflate that to fle the ego of his by having a dinner with marjorie taylo greene and surrounded by all o those ridiculous accolades and followers. many of whom were probably employees that filled th ballroom there when he went on to do exactly what judge marchand told him not to do. she told him, stop wit

violence, stop and hatred, sto with the attacks on individuals, whether it is himself meetin the judge, whether it is the warriors, the prosecutors, alvin bragg himself, any of th witnesses, donald refused to abide by his rules that is who dom trump's. >> michael, to your point, d you think that we are going to see a gag order in this case seeing how trump cannot contro himself and keep his mouth shut. >> i certainly hope not, tha would fall right into don' playbook again, don't forget, i was involved in writing so much of the playbook early on. if in fact the judge goes ahea and put a gag order, the first thing that don will do is have his counsel file for a claim order, a motion for a violatio of his first amendment constitutional rights.

something that he knows very well which is what revenge i all about, donald trump will weaponize the department o justice and he will use that t slow the case down on top of that, he will use it regardless of how the result o that case comes out. he will then use it to try t have the judge recused he will try to compound is nonsensical request to have th case removed to someplace else someplace that he seems to b more favorable i certainly hope that they don't fall into that trap, tha is exactly what donald i thinking right now >> you know michael, i want to take a turn to something a little bit more serious. you and i have spoken abou this idea which we can tune in and turn the tv off if we don' want to watch this anymore this trump saga. some of us may stop watching the katie show, move on the da

on saturday, - >> why would anybody do that why would anybody stop watchin the katie phang show >> thank you for that point, but you know michael, you an your family, you are livin this what i really wanted our viewers to understand is tha the level of vitriol, hatred and the legitimate physica threats against your safety an that of your family that you are suffering right now becaus of donald trump. >> well, it is true. unfortunately, we can't shut i off, especially. well i'm here in new york city let's say 92, 93% of all of th people who passed me by in the street as i continue to try to lead some semblance of a norma life, trying to get back to my old life people will come over and sa thank you for standing up fo

truth, thank you for doing wha you're doing don't give up, it is very easy to give up is not so easy to stay in th moment as i'm forced to be there is always those seve people out of 100 that are margus they are true die hard trump supporters the level of vitriol as you've expressed is off the charts. especially through social media, which is easier to ignore than the person on the street i told you the story, it's onl fair to tell the viewers on 63rd street and third avenu going to an appointment, a guy with a new jersey relicens plate stops his car and leaves in the middle of the street. he gets out, he wants to engag a physical altercation i asked him to get back in his

car, i won't back down we had a standoff, literally i the middle of the street wit horns honking and so on. this is the level of insanit that donald trump brings to th table. these people, for whatever reason, decide that they wan to take on his fight the fact they've never met him they have -- he wouldn't do a thing, he would lift his finger to hel them if they were on fir across the street and he had less water that would require him to walk across the street. but yet, look at the thing that they're willing to do, if they were smart, we look at th january 6th insurrectionists the thousands of them that are sitting in jail, or prison because they were doing what dom told them to do. we do at the capitol he hasn't helped a single on of them, going back to the ver

first point that you brought up, that is exactly why nobody, of tens and tens of supporter there, the biggest group o people happened to be the media. that not only was the same thing there, the same thing in front of his apartment on fift avenue >> well michael cohen, i alway appreciate you joining the show lending us your insight, we're gonna keep on looking forwar to seeing where that indictmen goes thank you for joining us thi morning. >> as always katie >> and coming up next, we ar only 90 days into the new year they've already been more than 140 mass shootings in america. will this crisis, it i disturbing easy to become numb to the nation's number one cause of death for children an teens. after the break, a candi conversation with a national pediatric surgeon about th grim fiscal realits ieof gun violence keep it right here keep it right here

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the expulsion of two black lawmakers from the tennessee house, it's important to sta focused on what they wer fighting against in the firs place. gun violence when shots rang out at the covenant school in nashville o march 27th, minus six guess wa in the emergency room ready to spring into action tragically, none of those thre child victims whatever eve make it to the hospital. joining me now is doctor jay we'll, and chief of pediatri -- the president-elect of the american society of pediatri nurse neurosurgeons. doctor, thank you for bein here the washington post reported that what makes an ar-15 s deadly is the bullet speed it's cartridge holds enoug propellant to send a bullet at a speed that would cross six football fields in a second. we're gonna show now a animation that may b disturbing to some viewers, want to warn everybody this - i want you to describe what an

ar-15 bullet does to a human body, especially a child's little body. >> thank you katie for keeping attention to the subject because it's important those two very bills here there is the gun itself and then there is the bullet the issue with the assault weapons is that it is a larg magazine so there's a high capacity of bullets. there's a high velocity of the bullet as you mentioned. and there's the low recoil that means that you ca basically put a lot of bullets quickly into your target without the kick, so to speak. so you can really do it lot of damage with more than just one bullet when the bullet itself hits th target, which often is the chest because that is th widest part of our bodies, but it could also be the head or other parts. again, children and teachers aren't wearing body armo suttons bay the area that ou colleagues see most in the emergency room for injuries. it can also cavitate, we'l passes to the tissue, th bullet itself can fragment and

also displace a lot of the other tissue so as the bullet passes through, any type of body soft tissue there is basically cavity of air that is around the bulle itself the destructive capacity as th bullet begins to tumble an fragment into multiple piece is pretty profound sometimes you see a smal bullet hole, for a smaller hol that is the insurance wound, but the exit wound i significantly larger and with great deal of damage the washington post did a nice job of that animation to try t explain exactly what's happening. >> doctor, you wrote a piece for time magazine last yea right after the uvalde schoo shooting in june of 2022 in the piece you say, quote, i people could only see what m colleagues and i see in thos trauma bays across our country i believe that their politic of extremism would give way to

their humanity, and common sense legislation would be within our grasp there is a debate over whether it should even be necessary to see that evidence of violenc for lawmakers to do the righ thing. after all this time, with so many victims, do you reall think, doctor ellen,'s that pr gun rights advocates are gonna change their minds >> it is a tough time in tennessee and it's a tough tim in our country the way i look at it, there ar four variables to how this happens. there's the, bullet there's the, gun there's the shooter, and there is society if our society continues o this track where there is th politics of extremism there' gonna be difficult to sit at the table and come to an agreement. the more name-calling from either sides, it's gonna pus people apart even further. i remember vividly being intimate the emergency roo that monday. there were 30 plus people there, chief of pediatric in d.c., chief of pediatric surgery was

there. a number of nurses and other support personnel and we waite and we waited and we waited, w would intermittently here that something was coming in a live and then they said no one is coming because no one survived it made me think about the fac of that time piece that yo mentioned, katie, six months ago after you've all day in that piece i wrote about colleague of ours who was th chief of pediatric neurosurger in connecticut who was present in newtown he talks about waiting and waiting and waiting. here we are with newtown, an then uvalde, and the nashville. all of the shootings in betwee where this group of people i the emergency room are waiting to do what they know how to do if you watch the video of thos police officers, rushing towards the fire, leaning in like some of them apparently didn't even get the chance t get their body armor on becaus they were so urgently gettin towards the shooter to sto what was happening

that gives me such a sense o pride, to see that happening that is the way that we felt not emergency room we wanted to be able to do our job. that is what we know how to do we wanted to save those kids lives, and we couldn't do it we can't do it because the majority of people and a majority of children that ar shot with high velocity weapon -- low recoil high velocity assault weapons, the essentially -- i mean, they die at the scene. that makes it impossible for u to care for them in th emergency room across th country. >> doctor jay wellons, i'm speechless i want you to thank you fo taking the time to have this transparent conversation about the impact of these assaul weapons on not only your profession but also all of our lives. we thank you so much for being here today >> thank, you katie. >> coming up, they say a dog i a man's best friend. after the break though, i will talk to one man who is makin it his mission to be the bes friend to vulnerable stree

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loving home, sadly that is not the case for millions of dog around the world in thailand, there is an estimated eight and a half million plus dogs with almos three quarters of 1 million of them abandoned by their owners now, an irishman living in thailand makes it his life mission to save dogs in need o the island of co-some way. joining me now is nile harbison, who's dedicating his life to rescuing dogs in thailand. he's also the author of th forthcoming book, hope, ho street dogs taught me th meaning of life. nile, you've got an incredible story. take a brief moment to tell us about -- and why you're making it you mission to rescue these. dogs >> yes first of all thank for having me on there's so many dogs i thailand that are street dogs, like there are in many parts o the world. i ended up in hospital myself, i suffered from depression and alcoholism and i nearly died unfortunately. and i decided to change my lif and save dogs. so i now feet 800 street hug

every day and help save as man as i can, including this littl one here who is named afte britney spears >> i'll, i know you've got brittani, those of us that are following you on stromata ar familiar with who your dog are. can you tell our viewers about britney and her back story >> she was chained up with her five puppies she then abused her fighting i re-homed her five puppies. she was really aggressiv because she had been badly treated. it took me eight months to cal her down and socialize her she tried to buy me at the start and attack me. she would lunge through th air. just having her sitting here o msnbc is quite the achievement to be honest >> you know, nile, you've got puppy named wacker you have an instagram post saying that he's living proo that we all get a second chance he survived a disturbing attac with a hammer. how does all of this resonat for you today, and what is the

message you are trying to send overall to people that are following you and ar interested in what's happening with the street dogs >> to be honest, it is a story of positivity. i come across some bad cases he had his head split open and nearly died, he came within millimeter i had to carry him into the be and get him treated. the story, when i log into m social media euro so ago i was looking at politics, ukraine really depressing staff. treating dogs is by no means a happy subject but i try to put little characters on them an tell their stories and the resonate with people and i think it put a smile on people faces. i've got 1 million followers across social media and they just enjoy seeing their little recovery it's like brittani here, she would be dead along time ago through social media they ca follow a little positive story >> niall, before we let you go tell our viewers about how they're able to support you. >> i think just following me o social media, instagram, it'

my name, or twitter. introduce off to the dogs. i know you are a follower, i'v seen you on there. once you get to know the characters, you will just be able to support me that's the best way. >> you know, niall, to you point, even on today's show, there's a lot of very seriou inside stuff that's out there. i wanted to make sure that i brought you on so that peopl could see what you're doing. her generosity, your selflessness, the fact tha you're helping those animals that don't have a voice an that you're giving them th love and help that they need i want to thank you now now, niall, i want to thank britney for staying up i know it's late where you are i want to thank you for being, here thank you so. much >> thank you. >> i want to thank all of yo for joining me this morning on the katie phang show i'll be back here tomorrow morning where i will prop -- joshua kaplan. he's part of a team of reporters this week with bombshell exposé on the luxury jet set vacation supreme court justice, clarence thomas

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