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good day from msnbc worl headquarters in new york welcome to alex witt reports i'm lindsey reiser developing this hour, a ne poll suggest that donald trump's indictment may b causing political damage a majority poll think th former president intentionally acted illegally. 20% believe he did nothing wrong. now just 25% of -- will be 61%, unfavourably. earlier today, trump's lawye in another probe said th former presidents legal team will likely fight to dismiss the manhattan da's case. >> we've been through this if there's an actual legal basis for disqualification they will pursue it. i think there will be some ver well placed motions to dismiss based on the legal frailties o this kind of mental gymnastics indictment that allen is tryin to piece together. >> new today, to tennessee state democrats could be on path to reinstatement this wee after being ousted b republicans. it comes as followed grows ove their obstacle shun, and

despairing of their whit colleague for protesting gun violence expel democrat, just imperious books to my colleague in the last hour. >> we are going to fight to be back in the legislature throug the appointment process of the county commission, in addition to running for our seat agai in the special election to serve district 86 in the state house, because that is what th voters want. they want advocates who ar going to lift up the issue that matter in our community poverty, health care, education, environments, and to gun violence >> a report on that in a moment meanwhile, u.s. officials leak u.s. classified documents ar -- likely are real, came from a leak the senior u.s. official believe some of them have been altered before being posted. the doj and pentagon are investigating who is behind. yet a new reaction today, as concerns and confusion gro over access to a widely used abortion pill. earlier today, democrati congresswoman, alexandri ocasio-cortez, expressin

concern over the broader impac new court rulings could have the abortion pill cases week t the supreme court. >> i do not believe that the courts have the authority to have the authority over the fd that they just asserted. i do believe it creates crisis should the supreme court d that, it would essentially institute a national abortio ban. >> later this hour, the chai the florida party will tell us about her arrest at an abortio rights protest, and the highly restrictive bill that could be implemented in her state thi week we're covering all the stories and new developments, with correspondents from new york t washington, to taiwan. first, to tennessee. what could be big developments as soon as tomorrow, on th expulsion of to bloc democratic state legislatures. the story still dominating newspaper pages there. nbc's kathy park joins me now. kathy, a lot of developments here to walk through

can you tell us about th people who are weighing in, an also the potential developments? >> yeah, lindsey, happy easter good to be with you. obviously, all eyes will b back on nashville this week as we wait to see if those tw ousted state representatives get their jobs back. first up will be representativ justin jones the way this works is that a nashville metro council, starting tomorrow, lat afternoon, 4:30 central time will hold a special meeting an will decide who will fill that vacancy that was left open after a presented of jones there was expelled from hi seat right now, at least 23 members have indicated that thei support, saying that they will vote him back and. keep in mind, this is just a interim capacity, and next u will be a special election the other state representative of, course is representative pearson. right now, it's still unclea what the shelby county commissioners will do as far a the timeline guns, and holding their special meetings tha were waiting for as you can see, thei

representative is in the middl of your screen right, now as we know, he's in memphis, in his home distric preaching at a church. a lot to follow. obviously, those two lawmakers have said that if they are reappointed, they'll take thos jobs back. they've been very outspoken, they've done the media circuit we heard them earlier this morning on the political tal show, and are chuck taught o meet the press managed to spea with those lawmakers he said, he dug deeper about the culture of the tennessee state legislature. here is what he told them. take a listen. >> representative pierson, d you feel like, you've been jus elected to the state house did you ever feel welcome, o did you feel unwelcome when yo got there? >> yeah, it is always been a toxic work environment to work in the tennessee state capital when you have people who mad comments about hanging you on tree, and hanging black people on a tree as a form of capital punishment when you wear a dashiki on the house floor, and a member gets up to talk about your dashik

saying that it's unprofessional they're really sending signals that you don't belong here that is what the underline, an -- comments and responses that we heard on the state floor the comments to myself, and my fellow representative, i really about it's about does not belong i the institution because they are afraid of the changes that are happening in our society in the voices that are being elevated >> >> of course, there are a lot of layers to thi conversation, now but thos absent lawmakers are receiving support near and far on friday vice president kamala harris made a last-minute visit to th university addressing th tennessee three, and prais them for speaking up, speaking up against tougher gun control measures in the state of tennessee. the president as well said t virtual conference with al three of them, acknowledging their leadership encourage them, but also, a lo to follow in the days to come. >> okay, thank you for catchin us up to speed we're going to have more on th tennessee expulsion aftermat later this hour. my colleague, simone sanders

joins us to talk about her interview with the tennessee three. now to two big nationa security stories developin here and overseas, including new details today. on that mystery involving to secret military documents, and overseas china's conducting ne and fantasy military drill around taiwan. -- taiwan, taipei, we're going to begin with ali rough at th white house. ali, any indication about wh might be to blame for the lead documents? >> yeah,, lindsey right now th doj and pentagon are digging for any evidence of a possible trader within the defens department, and u.s. intelligence agencies who ma have leaked these documents. >> new concerns over how secur the country's defense secret really are >> obviously, leaks, if that's what this says, or if th succeeds, it's extremely dangerous. >> after a suspected legal classified u.s. documents abou ukraine's war effort i military strength, they were possibly leaked.

photos of the allegedly to secret documents poste recently on social media the leak, first reported by th new york times, includes map and equipment lists that lay out details about ukraine' military strength, casualt counts, and western weapon capabilities the times reporting that the documents also revealed u.s. national security secrets abou the middle east, and china >> there are some indication that, there are some aspects that the documents that have some authenticity to them. there were also indication that this may be a russian disinformation campaign. they're very good at >> russian state media largely avoids coverage of the documents, one ukrainian official was calling it a bluf by russia. meanwhile, intelligenc analysts say that they'r confident these documents were also doctored. >> the determination has bee tentatively, if this is russian-led effort >> is attempting to target strategic --

in the united states i ukraine. trying to create a bad faith relationship there >> both the justice and defens departments now trying to ge answers. >> it puts a selves a rescue put our allies at risk >> lindsey, the potentia fallout from this is still unclear, but officials are currently trying to assess wha may have been exposed in these documents. former intelligence official say that if certain u.s. intelligence on russia was revealed, one possible implication would be mosco potentially cutting off a ke u.s. eavesdropping channel use for intelligence gathering >> all, right allie raffa, thank you. we know go to -- in taipei. what are the implications of these intelligence documen leaks? >> so there are two real problems here, if your u.s intelligence official with these leak documents one is exactly what ali wa just saying there. that is that there were thes sources, and methods, that the u.s. will collect informatio based on these documents, it seems like it's most likel they came from signals

intercepts, basicall electronic intercepts. if they is the specific piec of information in thes documents, then whoever is, if they were listening to gathe that information, is able to get that information and the were listening to that phone call or something, then they'r going to cut that off. the u.s. could lose a key piec of, a key area that they'r able to gather information from that is a big concern righ now. the second one is more in th diplomatic world that's that some of thes documents appear to show tha the u.s. was even listening in on some allies this creates tension, it creates a difficul relationship and conversatio between the u.s. and som allies depending on exactly what ma be disclosed and some of these documents. i think it's important to poin out, as valid in her piece that they appear to be real, but they also appear to be doctored, many of them we have to keep in mind that i this is some sort of a disinformation campaign by russia, what would be th

motivation behind it one of those very well could b to try to fray this alliance that has been built up in th last year plus, because of the war in ukraine >> okay, courtney, let's go no to the news in taiwan. chinese military jets an warships are and circling th islands and military drills. give us the latest how alarming these moves might be >> while the two things that are particularly alarming here today, lindsey, number one, yes, as you mentioned there are nin chinese warships that have bee circled the island they're simulating a naval blockade, which of course, i an active war. it's very concerning, not just here, but outside the region the implications of china were to actually carry out a real blockade on this island. both imports and exports would be impacted. today, we saw the chines carrying out these precision airstrikes practices, wher they were demonstrating, o they were simulating attacks o specific each are gets in an

around taiwan. one up the graphics that the chinese ministry of defens release shows what appears t be even a strike on what looks like taipei. in the northern part of th island it's extremely provocative the behavior today in addition to that, there are reports that there may be as many as ten ships that are in standoff, a naval standoff right now along the median line that's this divided betwee chinese waterways, and taiwanese waterways. five ships on either side. they appear to be just sort of watching each other at thi point. but the situation is very tens right now. the concern is what come tomorrow, if this is the third of what is supposed to be three-day exercise, accordin to beijing will there be some large sho of force to culminate this exercise that's what we're all watching for. >> okay, courtney. thank you. don but not forgotten. the -- issue was donald trump indictment brought back into view, including that door man.

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via priority, because they hav to take this miscarriage o justice early on look, the issue with venue i that manhattan, there's 87% pr joe biden last election. >> a new signal today from donald trump's legal team, tha motions to dismiss the falsifying records case will b fast and furious joining me now, lisa rubin msnbc legal analyst. along with veteran investigative reporter - he broke the story for yahoo news at the 34 charges being filed against trump would, i fact, the felonies michael, what if you learned about how everything went down last tuesday both and prosecutors, and th trump side >> historic and anyone watching donald trump in that courtroom, and w all saw the images, it was

prettyhe looks sour, and glam. clearly, he was concerned. about the fact that he was forced to be in that courtroom that said, it's pretty clear that the trump lawyers do have a lot of legal challenges that they can bring here. the case that allen bragg ha brought is plausible, bu doesn't seem particularl strong it rests on a novel lega theory that the stat prosecutor can use a federal offense, a federal campaig finance violation, as an underlying crime to bump u what would otherwise be misdemeanor. we will see whether that survives motions to dismiss, o move this to federal court this is going to drag on for quite some time. >> so, apart from challengin

the venue, here are some mor areas where the defense team sees the vulnerabilities let's watch. >> you don't typically run as defense attorney by filing a pretrial motion that says, hey judge, they've got the worst witness imaginable, they'r going to convicted perjure with an ax to grind. that's the kind of stuff wit the judge, the soviet, that wa their choice legal motions that pick apar the statute of limitations problem, the specific intent problem, the boot strapping of perhaps federal election law into a new york case, there is a lot to play with their i think there will be some robust motions i hope, and think, probably, much earlier than december which is the next court date >> lisa, first i should mentio that this is the lawyer fo trump's mar-a-lago classifie documents case let me ask you about some of the things he brought out. the statute of limitations intense. do you see those as weak areas for prosecutors? >> i don't necessarily see the most weak areas, but they're predictable areas for pretrial motions. statute of limitations as really interesting one, lindsey, it's something i've liked a fe

months ago in new york state, where jim trusty is not a practitioner there is case law that says yo can extend statute o limitations for a nonresiden defendants for every perio over 24 hours, if that perso is outside the state let's take it on faith tha donald trump was still a resident of the state of new york while he was presidents and living in washington until the fall of 2019 where h declared himself a resident of florida for, tax purposes. that's still wins th prosecution here, a real meaningful extension of what ordinarily would be a statut of limitations to bring felony charges against him. i'm not so concerned about that the specific intent issue is another potential problem, but i think one where the new york da's office has that amply covered. here's why all they have to show is tha trump falsified business records with an intent t conceal, or commit, anothe crime. he doesn't have to hav completed that crime and, the crime doesn't have to

be his own it could be that he falsifie business records, for example, to cover up the fact tha michael cohen, and allen weisselberg, or conspiring t commit tax fraud, for example, with respect to cohen' personal income taxes. as you think the da has a righ answer i agree with michael, some o these things are untested. i also trust that the manhatta da's office has been studyin this for a significant perio of time, and they have confidence that their case i going to hold up on this motio process, lindsey >> what if one of these cases, as in this indictment, that is in charge, is a federa campaign violation allegation. not a state one. >> you know, one of the things that's really interesting in a statement of facts, is tha allen -- lays out three possibilities for the ways in which this false records charge could b bumped up to a felony. one of them is, as michael mentions of campaign violation that michael cohen was charged with implied guilty to there were two more. one is an intense, by cohe weisselberg, again, to defraud state and federal ta

authorities by disguising as come the reimbursements fo michael cohen have paid stormy daniels. what they did was double the amount of money that cohen would have been owed, that $180,000 that he was out for having paid stormy daniels, an then an unrelated payment to a pollster they doubled that. when he paid income tax, h would essentially be - he would receive that hundre 80,000 back. the other possibility is a state election law violation that deals with conspiring t promote the election of particular person to publi office through unlawful means. those unlawful means don't hav to be something that trump himself died it could be a conspiracy, fo example, among trump, cohen, and the folks at the nationa enquirer, to have paid karen mcdougal through the acquirer' own funds in this fals business records on their end. i do think they have a numbe of possibilities, in the stage in the litigation, they're not legally required to specif which of those theories they'r

relying on they may not ever be require to specify which those theories they may be able to go to th jury and say, we think trump was trying to commit one o these three things or conceal one of these thre things, by falsifying business records. that might legally be enough t get them over the line,. lindsey >> let's take a step back your mind of when the players here stormy daniels, michael cohen, karen mcdougal, david pecker the door man who can you see testifying i this does go to trial. >> well certainly michae cohen. just speaking up on what - the potential tax violations here you know, that has been thrown out there. bragg baited very brie reference to it. if the tax violation is that there was a conspiracy to le cohen defraud taxpayers by not being income on us, and i thin michael cohen would have t plead guilty to that, if that' the crime that alvin bragg's

wants to use year. i'm not going to say that they want - that michael cohen's already pled guilty to multiple climbs including perjury, lying t congress i'm not sure that anyone's going to want to add on th prosecution, side add anothe tax crime to michael cohen, in order for him to testify tha that was the purpose of thes payments i'm not sure that the tax issu is going to fly in this case for that very reason as for all these other players look, the big irony here is we spent the last, you, know more than two years talking about whether donald trump was going to be held accountable for the defense of 2020, and his attempts to overturn the election of course, the events that led to january six yeah, the irony here is th first criminal case agains donald trump goes back to th 2016 election. his very election in the first place. you know, the implication seem to be that information was

withheld from the voters about this long ago sexual encounter he had with stormy daniels nin years before the 2016 election it's a long time ago, about, you know, frankly, what is nott. there are a lot bigger one coming down the pike matt georgia investigation i in its final stages. we are likely to see crimina charges coming out of that i the next couple of months. i think that donald trump ha much bigger legal problems ahead then this particular case >> lisa, that said, when you look at the timeline for thi case, next week the defens should get grand jury minute and exhibits, then there's largely a -- till june. finally deadlines, we got on in august, one is of timber. trump is then due back in cour in december. why might prosecutors favor january trial? given the sense the defens wanted more time, how do you feel the judge is going to roll? >> i think it depends, lindsay

on what they bring some of those pre trial motions. you, know they don't have to bring any of their pre trial motions until august, as you just noted but jim trust seems to be -- and suggested that they ar going to bring a ray o emotions before august if i am the da's office, i'm going to push for the earliest trial date i can so that donal trump can't say to judge one or anyone else presiding ove this case, this is interviewin with my right to be candidate. i'm supposed to be here, o there, campaigning for the presidency of the united states however, i do think that it' likely that this trial wil slip beyond january. what i think the da's office i hopeful, is they can pin dow trump's lawyers to that spring of 2024 date that they propose last week at the arraignment beyond that, if it slips beyond, that i think we're really in danger of a collision betwee the campaign calendar, and donald trump's legal troubles. another thing is that the firs to charge does it mean first t trial. charlie savage at the new york

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have on nationwide access, and those comments from th secretary. does that give you optimism? >> yeah, you know what i happening across our country i not american you, know we have a suprem court that undermines 50 years of law, of protections, of health care. unfortunately, in the state of florida, and states across the south and across the nation, we're seeing these agree jus bands, you know, we're about t pass here, in the state of florida, a six-week, near ban, on abortion. being able to have other acces to tools in order to protect women's health care, and t protect women, it's essential. it does give me hope that ther are others out there fightin to ensure that we're protectin women's right to choose. >> this talk about what' happening in your state. as you mentioned, florida righ now could improve that abortio ban from 16. the governor has signaled that he'll sign what does this mean for wome in your state? >> what this will mean for women in our state is that women will die make no joke about that. women across our state wil

have to either, of one, make u their own personal decisions t take it upon themselves to either have a procedure on their own, or, they have t find the financial resources t leave the state of florida which, of course, we know th republican party are looking devin actual ban on abortion this is not going to stop here in the state of florida. we need women across our state and our allies, to stand up, and fight back we've got to make sure tha people understand that there i going to be health car repercussions associated wit this ban unfortunately, here in, 75% of floridians don't want this but we have a governor who i hell-bent on running for president of the united states on the backs of people here in the state of florida so it was important for myself as well as the protesters, and our minority leader in the senate, lauren, book to show that we are going to fight, an it's important for people to stand with us, and make sure that everyone understands what is happening here in the state of florida, and this is no going to stop here

it is going across the entir country until we start seein more people fighting back. >> let's talk about that on monday, you were arrested we were showing some video o that my understanding is that you were charged with trespassing, i believe, after, a warning. you were told you could be, th correct me if i'm wrong, until sunset what is your experience, and why was it so important for yo to do this knowing the consequences >> let's take a history lesson for a second across the history of america, people have been protesting, and fighting and wars, and being a rusted and som ultimately being killed to protect rights to expand rights, to protect the things that we hold true a americans. so knowing that we have th potential of a six-wee abortion ban in the state of florida. that 75% of floridians don't approve of that we wanted to make sur that our voices were heard that we were heard out loud an clear, and that we are peacefully protesting outsid of city hall the reason we couldn't be at

the capitol is because ron desantis, in the last couple years, has made it nea impossible to protest, exercis a first amendment rights, an protester governments. we can't go inside of th capitol. we can't protest at the capito compound he's even looking to expan outside the capitol compound into the city limits so we got women across our states, they came to tallahassee, trying to fight back, bring awareness to the situation. we know that the people ar with us. it's unfortunate that we weren't able to exercise our first amendment rights we were sitting there, peacefully protesting. the city had just enacted, literally, three days earlier, that this was deemed a park in front of city hall we were arrested for sitting there peacefully, and trying t exercise our first rights, their first amendment rights t protest our governments, and instilling these types of agre just, six stream policies on the people of our state. >> nikki free, thank you for your time.

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their expulsion, and the despairing of their whit colleague for protesting gun violence msnbc's simone simpson sat dow with him for an exclusiv interview. >> it's so interesting to me they said, you were disruptive that day >> who said they >> this is what the charge were the resolution and the reality is, when w first walked and there - that was the disruption. the movements, the communities the people we represent, the that embodiment, that was th disruption to a body that is s defined by white supremacy patriarchy, and plantation capitalism that was a disruption. >> simone joins me now, alon with david jolly, former republican congressman fro florida, and msnbc analysts. simone, what was your bigges take away here from th tennessee three? >> miguel, lindsey, i think had two big takeaways. first and foremost, how th tennessee three are lase focused on the reason that

folks were at the capitol last thursday in the first place. that was the gun violence, tha was the killing of three students, three children, thre adults, at the covenant school but also the everyday gu violence, and the lack o protections that folks hav across this country, but in th state of tennessee i think my second takeaway i when it's happening in tennessee is not unique. it is happening across the south. if you look at the state legislature in mississippi they tended to take over jackson, the predominantly african american city and th state. if you look at the tennessee state legislature, i'm not jus what they did to representatives pearson, and representative jones, but what they're attempting to do to th city council of nashville. again, passing legislation t cut to the members on that - if you look at what's happenin in florida, there is a, there' something afoot across the sal and one could argue across thi country, the people should b pain attention to. >> one mom, the mom wh

actually organize the initia rally which that protest too place, told me, watch us, watc what's happening here in nashville. >> do you get a sense on the ground that sense it's kind of pull to this issue, thes lawmakers to a nationa platform, that some kind o changes on the horizon >> yes, lindsey. the question, i don't know i the change is substantiv legislation. i will say, members of the democratic leadership in the state house, and state senate, told me that they are workin with the governor and th lieutenant governor. their republican colleagues to pass legislation i have a conversation on m show later on today. i think that the substantive change that is a is the number of young people that maybe wer not pain attention to politics we're not necessarily engage and involved they sell it up into these lawmakers, they saw thos children, and those adults slaughtered in school. they said, i'm getting negatio velvet i was there, was at the rally, at fiscal, that the vice president, kamala harris mad

it appearance at the energy and there was electric it was young people. a majority, an overwhelmin amount of young people in that building >> debbie, you know, we talked to some people in tennessee wh have said this expulsion i really just been a distraction a way to distract from the rea issue at hands that is gun violence how much of a national problem has this blown into four republicans? >> well, it's a seriou problem. i think it actually presents three issues that really pierc the conscience of the nation they present the challenge within today's republica party. the issues of race,, right the issues that to, young, black voices were quieted by a overwhelmingly white legislature when a white democratic member joined the does not silence the issue of gods, of simone says, the young voters, we now have voters who are coming o age, who are used to the activ shooter drills in thei schools. that is a different demographi than - ultimately, the stock question of democracy we know that in january six, but in the state capital

around the country, wher republicans have tried to quie voices, quiets so much - this suffrage. these questions of race, of gu violence, and the democracy, are really an anchor aroun republicans right now. we've seen that in the las three cycles ithink we'll see it in 2024 as well >> simone, i want to get you thoughts now on the conflictin court decisions that are leaving an uncertain fate fo abortion pill access cell read the press this morning. new and political analysts - had a conversation about acces the left to thes ultraconservative stat legislatures do you feel this will galvaniz people to get more involved in local politics >> i think so, lindsey i think that we've seen president, an amount o attention, frankly, from the democratic party apparatus now that a number of these restrictive pieces o legislation in bills hav bubbled up to the top. the republican party apparatus for a long time, was laser focused on state politics, state legislatures across th

country. the democratic party apparatus i would, argue had just, in th last ten years arrived at th game voters are now paying ten. shed look at wisconsin, fo example. the supreme court race the state supreme court race i think it is going to make difference it made a difference in th midterm elections. i think it's going to be a issue of the presidentia abortion used to be an issue lindsey, as you will, now that democratic politicians and wan to talk about. but i vividly remember conversations earlier last year, post jobs decision coming down where i spoke with democrati governors who said that this i going to be something that w run on, and something that w are going to dig your heels in on as you can see, that i happened >> as simone just said, if the winds of change already in motion after the midterms, i which republicans didn't pic up as many houses as they were expected, you just saw thi decisive victory for the state supreme court and wisconsin, and why is it still appear tha the conservative state legislatures are doubling down on this?

>> because you have generation of republicans wh grew up thinking that they had to have an absolute position o this it's remarkable to consider th tennessee matters -- now the court decision out o texas, republicans are basically saying, if you thought we were really mad o guns, and issues of race and ways where you see how bad w are on the question of abortio and women's rights to bodily autonomy i think what dobbs presented t the contrary, in the data bo itself, his for the last 30, years there has been this hard as the debates you're absolutely pro-choice absolutely pro-life. you grew up, and you had to be one camp or the other. the decision of roe, we set th national conversation to act americans, are you fundamentally pro roe, o karen's throw. what the data shows a 70% or more of the country's pro roe, whether they identif personally as pro life or pr choice, that is a remarkable opportunity for democrats, and it's one that republican continue to get wrong. >> lindsey, i was just saying, david points should be bolte

and underlines what is happening here acros the country's people, women an men, of gender nonconforming are saying, hey, i don't wan the government in my doctor' office that is what is about. the government's been able t tell their legislatures are no better than your doctor. if you are a democrat, republican, or independent, if you haven't checked a box in a long time, you know that whe you go into your doctor' office, you are doctor so an so tenuous best for, health no somebody down at the state capital. >> simone, sanders and david jolly, thank you so much t both of you. make sure you catch simone today it msnbc at 4 pm eastern she will have much more from tennessee where she spoke with several other democrat state lawmakers, including the minority leaders of the state' house and senate about their ongoing fight. a much-needed break in the middle east tension, but how long will it last? new information, nex t. blood when you brush could lead to worse over time. help stop the clock on gum disease now. parodontax toothpaste... ...is 3x more effective at removing plaque bacteria,

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>> well, lindsey, it has been day of tense but mostl peaceful worship for people of so many faiths, thousands of jews pray at the western wall, receiving a passive, priestl blessing, while christians wer flocking to the nearby churc of the holy -- in east jerusalem. muslim sprain joining th muslim holiday of ramadan at the mosque compound. this is just behind the wester wall, and of course, this is been israeli ratings over th past several days at tha mosque site that has been at the center of so many of the flare-ups that we have seen in the recent last week or so including that latest strike i mentioned overnight. the israeli military using fighter jets, drones, artillery, to launch strikes attack again inside syria, including syrian military sites in response t what israel said was rockets launched from syria into the golan heights. the big fear here is that when you step back and look at al

of the fronts, or israel palestinians, and palestinia land groups have bee exchanging fire over the las half a week, from the gaza strip, to occupy west bank, to southern lebanon, and not to syria, you start to see th potential ingredients for broader regional conflict that could really spiral. the silver lining, if there is one, is that none of the parties here really seem t want to see this escalate into a full scale war the hope is that a relativ calm that were seen over the last 12 hours or so will continue to hold in the coming days lindsey. >> josh, thank you and on this easter sunday, thousands faithful join pope francis at st. peters square for mask on -- francis's just a week after -- where he was - nbc's and thompson - for us and what direction ar

we seeing this >> for people who for th powerful spotlight, tensions t the conflict, it's not talke about. on the one, obviously, news is the one you keep praying for peace in ukraine and that th light of the russian but the highlighted around the world particularly the holy land conflicts at and south trave to the stick hat her report an also - the earthquake victims and turkey so he talks about thi third world war that is goin on in these conflicts where we

don't pay a lot of attention that, today, was his message hoping that ease could be time when this could be a time of passage trump confliction, t consolation. lindsey. >> and, talk to us about the pope's health, and how he' doing. how did he seem? >> i know, i feel like we've all become sort of armchai doctors, if you, well in the past week during holy week because of the 86-year-old's hospitalization for bronchitis i will say, he seemed very strong he was making you, was in hi wheelchair, during mass. he stood up on aided several times. he rode through the st. peters square on his ponytail, an that always does that. we love to see the smiley faces, and to hear viva love papa, an i love you pope. then, when he delivered hi easter message from the balcony, again, his voice was strong.

he sat down for saturday he set up for some of that he did cough in the middle because his voice kind of gave out. you, know he's had a very busy schedule during this week. then, when you consider he's 8 years old, overall, it was a very impressive performance. lindsey. >> and thompson, thank you that does it for this editio of alex reports. i'm lindsey reiser stay with us, more news, after the break. ♪ ♪ ♪♪ voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪♪ (seth) not to brag, but i just switched to verizon. (cecily) wow! voltaren. the joy of movement. (seth) and i got to choose the phone i wanted. for free. (cecily) not that you're bragging. (vo) switch and choose the 5g phone you really want, on us. like the incredible iphone 14. (cecily) on the network worth bragging about. (vo) verizon (psst psst)

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