>> greetings, everyone you are watching symone. they're coming up on what is a pivotal week for the lawmakers expelled from the tennesse state house. all eyes are watching to see i local officials will vote to reinstate them i caught up with the democrati leaders of the state legislato -- for their take on how we got t this point in our democracy, and while former president donald trump is having a goo old time at ufc fights, americ is waiting to see what is next with the felony charges in manhattan and many investigations into the former president. we are talking to his former fixer, michael cohen plus, in the regroup, ryan goslyn is filling with the o why he could not say no to the new barbie movie that is symone sanders-townsend, and i have something to say.

♪ ♪ ♪ if there is anything tha recent events in tennessee and other states have taught us, i should be that state legislatures are critical fo our democracy. i mean, it is where america' policy is made and if we don't know who you're stat representatives are, you shoul get to know them because the are determining the future state houses create policies whose impact can reach beyond state lines and influenc entire regions, affectin peoples pocketbooks, education 's abilities to make decisions about their own bodies and virtually every facet of lif you can think of beyond laws alone, how you state legislature's run has direct impact on you as well i mean, look at tennessee. more than 136,000 tennesseeans woke up on friday morning with a no representation in their own state house. that's because the republica majority expelled of the two

youngest black male legislators, representatives justin pearson and justin jones, saying the violated house decorum rules all for demanding that going t school should not be a death sentence the nashville metro council is set to vote tomorrow night o whether to reinstate representative jones this egregious push to us by the tennessee three has forced conversations among democrat about whether the current ways of approaching opposition ar growing outdated in a ne political environment. recently traveled to nashville and spoke to the tennessee three in the first joint interview since the expulsio votes. we discussed this very issue take a listen. >> the truth is, we cannot continue to operate in a ver old way of thinking in a ver new moment in tennis i american history it's very similar to what we tell people who are republican who talk about the immutabilit about the second amendment we don't live in 1776 where we need a militia you have to have a reality

check on what these rules, wha these laws mean in this presen moment, and to our colleague in the state house, we do no live in the air of the 1950' or 1960s, or 19 hundreds, we have to live in this moment. we have to operate in this moment and act in this moment. >> what would you like the current members of the democratic caucus in the state house to do? >> we have to be honest abou the culture on capitol hill. that it is much more comfortable to conform >> the capitol hill he i talking about is in tennessee, in nashville but it's not just tennessee. from florida to mississippi to texas, republicans are using their legislative powers t marginalize black participatio in government. i recently spoke with th democratic leadership from bot chambers of the tennessee stat legislature. representative -

democratic minority leader o the -- salmon can, see the chairman o the tennessee black's of state legislatures, senator ramesh akbari, the minority leader of the tennessee state senate, an the assistant minority leade of the tennessee state house we started by talking about th growing anti-democratic action of southern state legislatures as i talk to experts across th country, civil rights lawyers, constitutional lawyers, they say this assault, what they ar calling in assault, on black people, black peoples abilit to participate in th democratic process is happenin all over the south and tennessee is just the latest >> i agree if you look at voting rights and the push towards using - restricting being able to vote on sundays, penalizing peopl for offering refreshments, extreme partisan gerrymandering, we are already behind th finish line before we ge

started. just looking at some of th policies, they clearly don't represent democratic values an it is a deep south, southern strategy, i believe, especiall when you look at unchecked super majorities >> how did we get here mister chairman? >> it has been a long an exhaustive process just here i tennessee, just here recently. you know, i think what i happening is one state will se something and it passes. there is no way they would eve do that to the african america vote or do it too -- when it passes and other states, let me try it. >> this did not start as a assault on black people' ability to participate in th political process, and the start as an assault on two young black men representative in the state house o tennessee. this started with three babies dynamos, three adults bein killed in school >> representative jones,

representative pierson representative johnson come ou of the advocacy work this is who they are at the moment, i think the feel these voices were not being heard. i felt - they felt like it was a good cause, this was similarly to what john lewis did, having to sit out on the floor they needed to do something. and they did they took to the floor >> did you all agree with that cause? >> we definitely agree with it because. >> let's talk about the -- we are sitting here toda because three members of the tennessee state house engage in what i would call civil disobedience in the well of th house. >> a few years back, democrats walked off the house floor together >> is that in violation of house rules? >> no, but one member was pu off of a committee and w didn't agree with it collectively, we decided t walk off the house floor which then broke the quorum required

they couldn't do busines without us we have disobeyed civilly, right? we've done it in a manner that stopped business >> i've got my ear to th streets all across the country and as a young person who ha regularly had to pull my chair as a senator, at every table i have sat at, i understand, sometimes, what happens when you've got young people pullin the chairs up and saying, we'v got to do it like this you've got people who've bee here a minute saying, hold o now, we've been here before. and that could create some friction i'm hearing that there was friction, somebody tell me if am wrong >> i always say, you know, i said it yesterday on the house floor in the washington chambe it's not the water that gets the clothes clean, it's th agitation. agitation is a good thing. technically speaking for lik five seconds they technicall broke a house rule and that is disobedience did it arise, rise up to

expulsion? and that is really the point this was a minor, mino infraction in my humbl opinion. it's the opportunity, they are opportunists and they pounce on it. the republicans in the house they doubled down. >> to chairman mckenzie's poin and to answer your question, simone, we all proceed as we see fit. we all have our own tactics. i remember a member, he told u sometimes you need folks t kick in the door and you nee other folks to come to the table and negotiate. >> that's right. >> we can't be critical of our colleagues for how they choose to have their voices heard they are firmly generation - they come from that culture of we are going to have our voice heard right now. and they try to go through the normal system and they wer silenced when you silence the voices of the people, they will find a way to be heard. >> that's right. >> that's what those numbers did. is it different from how i a heard? yes. is it any less effective is it any less important

absolutely not >> representative, you are the president elect of the nationa black aukus of state legislators, what is your -- >> we've had these conversations with our members across the country to say, wha would it look like for the various state black aukus is t say, how do we really ge moving on legislation that supports our communities, that goes to have a bill passed and have legislation that will b signed by the government we have to be aware of tha also there's also a wake up cal about black caucus's that ar in southern states >> what is an intergenerationa lesson folks should take fro what has happened here i nashville? >> i think people to communicate differently. just because someone is younge than you, they talk differentl than you, we are all elected officials. i think that is something that has to have high weight. >> was there a bill you all ar working with the tennessee republicans in the state legislature, the house and the senate to move forward tha will address some of the issues?

as it relates to guns in tennessee. >> we have five pieces o legislation we introduce focusing on red flag laws. focusing on assault weapons, high magazine cartridges and things like that we are - i will kick it back to leade camper - we have open dialogue, i do, with the senate speaker, lieutenant governor and th governor's office. if we are going to do something, the democratic party stand ready and willing to help. i will get over to karen >> on the night, the day w came in after the shooting, th majority leader came to my des and said, let's communicate, i want to do something, let's do something. okay, good as the speaker was leaving, he stopped by my desk and said, i'm open to us doing something great. we had legislation drafted

on our house side, we have a bill limit we were vigorously looking for captions that could hold the legislation. those bills have to go through what's called a delay bill's committee, that is beyond bill filing deadline. i negotiated and was negotiating with the two o them to allow those bills to come out of delayed bills. >> where do we stand on that >> the process is started. but that night, they committed to me, and i will hold them to it >> i talked to constitutiona law lawyers, people who do thi democracy work every day each one of these folks i spok to said, what happens in tennessee, what's happening in mississippi, particularly in jackson, what's happening in florida, it is jim crow. and i think what is happenin here is replacing jim crow >> one difficulty people hav

understanding is the term, the vestiges of slavery. >> talk to me about that >> this is the residue of it even though it goes away, ther is still some residue of it. there is still the implication that african americans may b less than because of the color of their skin's. the schools that teach african americans are less than an should be funded less. education to african americans should receive less attentio in health care, so there wil be disparages -- when those things linger people suffer disparities. you have these unintende consequences we say, hey, there is somethin wrong in our community and i can be linked to slavery they say, that was 400 years ago. yeah, there are still th vestiges of slavery. you have these indications o it we have them pop up, not jus one incident, it's another one someone should've said, i think, last night, after a caucasia

member was retained and an african american member was, not someone should have said hold on now, what are th optics optics? >> their views don't allow the to do that they have no vision -- >> we will have to leave i there. thank you all very much fo this conversation. >> thank you so much >> representative love was preaching, on this sunda afternoon. one former president trump pleaded guilty in a manhatta court room, y'all, it was only the beginning of a very long legal process. more revelations are befor trial. my next guest is not a preache but he is a chief player in th case, he's already served hi time michael cohen served - joins me with his take on th history making week and what comes next but first, y'all know who it is my colleague and bestie richar lui with today's other top new stories. >> hey, symone very good easter to you. here are the stories we're watching for you chinese military jets an warships circling the island o

taiwan today for a second da of drills. after the -- return from a short visit to theu.s.. u.s. forces say that monitorin situation there and have enoug resources in the area to kee the peace. pope francis celebrating easte sunday mass before tens of thousands of people at st. peters square today. the appearance leading som concerns about the 86-year-old's health after bronchitis forced him to ski an outdoor good frye frida services the pope called for peace in ukraine during his easte message. connecticut senator richar blumenthal now on the mend after fracturing his leg at th uconn men's basketball victory parade it happened when another perso at the parade apparently tripped and fell on him during yesterday's great event. he tweeted late last night thank you people for their goo wishes, and confirming he woul have routine surgery today more symone right after this break. ♪ ♪ ♪ because it stinks. ♪have you tried♪ ♪new downy rinse and refresh?♪ it helps remove odors 3x better than detergent alone

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donald trump has pleaded not guilty to a 34 count felon indictment across the five business records, the stage is set for a discovery process an the first ever criminal tria of an american president a key player in the case i trump's former lawyer an self-described fixer, michae cohen. his name appears 11 times in the 16-page indictment cohen also served time, in par for campaign finance violation involving alleged hush money payments to a adult film actress, stormy daniels, about an affair she said she had wit

then candidate donald trump. trump denies the affair ever happened collin and now the manhattan district attorney's office say the payments were made a donald trump's direction reporters a -- insists cohen can't be trusted michael cohen joins me now he is the author of the book revenge, how donald trum weaponized the u.s. department of justice against his critics and the host of the mea culp podcast. michael cohen, it is good to see you on the screen, sir >> how are you, happy holidays to you and your viewers. >> happy holidays to you this happened on tuesday, it seems so long ago. was there anything in th indictment or even the fac that you previously didn't kno when it became public? >> no. i mean, i was pretty sure that and the topics that i wa questioned on by the grand jury, as well as by the prosecutor

before the grand jury, o identified in those statemen of facts >> i read thoroughly the transcript of donald trump's arraignment. during that arraignment, the judge instructed, quote unquote, both sides of the -- i want to bury clear that your words, no one else's words fro the district attorney's office or any of the witnesses that w know the names of how did an of the rhetoric anywhere nea or anything like donald trump. the judge did not make tha point. the da's office basically said in the arraignment that they tried to do what they can bu they basically can't kee people from going out an talking. i'm wondering, has the da' office said anything to yo about your media appearances >> no. we did have, you know, a discussion, early on, about my

media appearances. as i stated to them, there wil be nothing in any of these interviews or any of m conversations with any form of media that will disclose any o the questions, any of th topics, any of the answers tha i had provided to the district attorney's investigators or to the grand jury i don't believe that there i anything i'm providing that ha not been disclosed by the medi so far >> michael cohen, what do yo say to your critics that say your incessant media appearances are damaging to da bragg's case >> they have no idea what they are talking about. it's merely to defend donald trump. there is a whole slew of individuals. why? i still to this day cannot figure it out, despite the 35,000-plus lies told by the former president they want to turn him around and they want to prevent m from being a potential witness

to be used by the district attorney in the future when th case ultimately goes to trial. they will try to muddy up my name they will come after me, mak claims that i'm unreliable, an that my credibility is an issue. they don't finish the sentence symone something we actually spok about when i was going in and saw you on rev owls show politicsnation -- at least finish your sentence. it's extremely important and when they say to me, cohen has no credibility, he's a convicted perjurer, and that i true, i did plead guilty t what is called 1001 violation, but i did not tell the truth t congress but it's important to finish the sentence, whereby what i did, of what i had said wa done at the direction of i coordination with, and for the benefit, extremely important

and for the benefit of donald trump. it's also important to not what this big lie is that they think is going to prevent me from being the credible witnes that i clearly am and that i have shown myself to be. today, by the way, is the five year anniversary of the raid o my home, hotel, law office, an safety deposit box they need to finish th sentence, whereby they explain that the lie was the number of times that i told congress tha i spoke to donald about th failed trump tower moscow real estate project i told them, again, at the direction of, in coordinatio with, and for the benefit of donald, i told them thre times. the real answer was i spoke to him about it ten times if anyone out there, fans or detractors think that's goin to stop me from being credible witness that i am they clearly don't understan

how the process works. >> when i start my show, at th end of every opening of my show, i say i am symon sanders-townsend, i have something to say it was very clear to me that michael cohen had something to say today. you make the point about folks finishing their sentence you talk about the fact yo have provided to the da' office in the statement of facts, details audio recordings tha surfaced in, i believe, 2018 have you discussing the stormy daniels payment with donal trump. is the da's office i possession of all th recordings between you and donald trump is that why you are so confident? >> the answer, simone, that' actually a little bit of misinformation there it's one recording i only recorded donald one time. i explained to the distric attorney why it was i had made that recording yes, they are in possession of that recording but it is one fine, and on

recording from me. >> before i let you go, michael, i guess i have to ask, because one of the other criticisms of you out there, i want to giv you the opportunity to respond you are on a revenge tour an folks can understand if yo wanted revenge from donald trump because you didn't hav the alleged affair with stormy daniels, he allegedly did. >> or karen mcdougal >> would you like to respond >> or karen mcdougal i did not have an affair wit her either it's not a revenge tour. as i have stated over and over again, the problem is thos people who are the acolytes of donald trump, no matter what i say, they don't want to listen to it. this is not about revenge. this is about accountability for the first time in donald's life, he is now confronted wit accountability they basically -

da bragg dropped accountabilit right on his lap he now has to contend with that, you know i've also been very clear when i stated and that -- people ask me over time, you must feel great about what i going on, what's happening that's not true. i do not and despite the fact that, again, it's abou accountability, i am not happy simply because it makes th united states, what's going on the first president ever in th history of the united states t be, you know, indicted this is not a good look fo america. >> i guess i would disagre with you there, michael cohen. i guess i would say i think president being held accountable, going through the system like anyone else, i think is good for democracy an america is now joining the res of the world they are telling me i am out o time but you have to come bac because there will be more t

discuss, it's going to be long discovery process i appreciate your time and happy holidays to you. >> happy holidays to you and everyone >> thank you folks, we will switch gears. there was a resounding victory in wisconsin for democrats record numbers of voters sen judge janet pratasevich to the wisconsin supreme court, hug -- abortion rights and democracy. to wisconsin state legislators join me to weigh in on wha happens next ct. while loading up our suv, one extra push and... crack! so, we scheduled at safelite.com. we were able to track our technician and knew exactly when he'd arrive. we can keep working! ♪ synth music ♪ >> woman: safelite came to us. >> tech: hi, i'm kendrick. >> woman: replaced our windshield, and installed new wipers to protect our new glass. that's service on our time. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ (wheezing)

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voters sent a very clear message. they turn out in record number to elect liberal judge janet protasiewicz all the way to the wisconsin supreme court. the judges double digit victor shifts control of that court t the left for the first time in 15 years the change comes at a critical time in cases about a woman' right to make decisions abou her own body and extreme gerrymandering will likely com before the justices. at the same time, though, special election just gave the republicans a supermajority in the wisconsin state senate they now have the power to impeach judge protasiewicz i they choose. i visited wisconsin righ before november's midter elections and i spoke with democratic legislators who wer facing a very real threat to democracy there because of hopeless gerrymandered maps. back then, i asked how the felt about their chances o ever breaking out of the minority here's what one stat representative told me

>> well, there is a path we do not necessarily have t have these legislative map forever. but as you said, it's not goin to mean that the will of the people is reflected in the capital until democracie actually restored in wisconsin >> the voice you just heard it was at wisconsin house minorit leader greta neubauer, she joins me now as well as state representativ and aura drake greetings to you both. that is not dora drake, i' like - greetings sarah palmieri greetings, sarah tara, i'm going to start wit leader new bear. madam leader, how close is wisconsin actually close to bu -- thanks in part of the suprem court election >> thank you again for havin me, simone it's great to see you. for 15 years, we have had court that prioritized partisanship and power grabs over the state constitution.

the election of judge jane really is a sea change in th state of wisconsin republicans have rigged th rules and, in many ways, isolated themselves, insulated themselves from the will of th people we have an incredibl opportunity, going forward, to move into offense in wisconsin and to challenge a number of laws on the books we believe are unconstitutional, accordin to our state constitution. those include, of course, th 1849 criminal abortion ban and our extremely gerrymandere legislative maps >> so i think the lega challenges are faced i wisconsin right now, but are you concerned about the threat to impeach now justice janet protasiewicz, what will you do if republicans try their han at that? >> of course it is a challenge right? we have, in the state senate two thirds majority fo republicans. this both means that they ca

overturn vetoes by governo tony evers, and they could attempt to impeach elected officials. thankfully, if they did impeac an elected official on the supreme court, governor ever would be able to appoint, replacement. i don't think that's a path we will see them take right now as we have seen in wisconsin and around the country especially in tennessee as o late, republicans have bee willing to go to extreme lengths to continue to hol power and continue to suppress the will of the people >> let us stay on that, leader neubauer i've been making this case, was just in tennessee, i was i nashville, i spoke with th tennessee three and th democratic leadership of the house there. and they made this case that this is happening across the south, and i agree but there is a real assault on our democracy, and attack on

women, frankly, across the country. it's happening in stat legislatures do you think that -- i think that the folks i wisconsin are unique in that they have had all thes elections and are tuning int what is happening in the state legislature. and you think folks ar fatigued, if you will, in your state? do you think they will keep th fight up >> that's a really goo question i will say, it has been hard t be a democrat in wisconsin when the rules are so rigged that democrats at the statewid level are getting about 50% of the vote in every election and we are getting about a third o these seats in every electio for the state legislature, you know you have a problem. it's really difficult fo people to continue to engage when they see their vote is no equal based on where they live in the state of wisconsin. but, because of this electio tuesday, i'm seeing an incredible sense of optimism from people in wisconsin it's not just democrats.

it's people who believe that gerrymandering is wrong. it's people who believe that every voter should have th ability to cast their vote and have it counted. i'm excited about that opportunity we have here i will say that i think we are going to see the same thing in tennessee. now is knocking on doors for election, but when m colleagues were knocking o doors, we heard a lot abou issues we heard a lot about democracy i don't think that voters ar going to forget and that the gop majority in the stat legislature in tennessee attempted to override and duly elected legislators, right of course it's not lost on u that the two legislators who were expelled were black legislators who represen cities i think there is going to be a incredible movement in tennessee that's going to hold their gop accountable there, just like we are seeing in wisconsin. >> spoken like a good millenni elected official, wisconsi

state representative, minority leader in the house bauer, it' very good to see it. we could not get representativ drinks camera up we will be chatting with her very soon. i got you, representativ drake. folks, there are some othe things in the news, we talke about abortion in wisconsin. there is some confusion no about different rulings by two judges when it comes t abortion access and in terms o the abortion pill. there is one in texas, one i washington state access for the abortion pill now in limbo for people across the country, or is it? we will have more fr tomhe political panel next good boy. adt professionals customize and install systems featuring google nest products for any kind of home. what do you think? you're all set. when the most trusted name in home security adds the intelligence of google,

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of the story, kids, on thi past week in politics? perhaps they learned it's not good look to oust to black lawmakers from a state legislature for protesting a lack of gun safety reform, o maybe they learned fro wisconsin supreme cour elections that voters will not respond kindly when yo threatened to limit a woman' right to make decisions abou her own body -- y'all saw her, she is back she's a senior political - mandela barnes is here, th former lieutenant governor o wisconsin, as well as a former state senator and former senat candidate, he's got a lot of jobs and former republican actually pratt outs is also here, and msnbc think contributor. i'm going to start with -- you what's your reaction t minority leader neubauer's comments and just the impact o the state supreme cour election in wisconsin? >> i was in the state assembly i was never in the state senate, but in the state - i find a losing battle every day.

despite losing a battle agains people who didn't really earne their positions, it is completely anti-democratic, th numbers we get compared to how the vote typically winds u statewide, that's why th election matters so much las week with judge jane protasiewicz being elected t the supreme court. the opportunity for fair - when i talk about fair mass, i mean real democracy, peopl being represented at this point, elected officials choosing their voters and not the other way around as it should be there is a long road to go we have a long way to go, a lo more to do, but to be in thi position means so much for the state of wisconsin and the entire country >> ashley, do you think on thi issue of abortion republican have learned their lesson this week do you think they will regre just seeing what happened in wisconsin, also seeing the outrage, frankly, around the

abortion pill ruling i amarillo, texas? >> i don't think republicans will ever learn a lesson simone that's exactly why people ar leaving the party, such as myself it's ironic because the part that claims to want government out of their bedrooms are doin exactly that when it comes t women's rights they want to be involved i very personal decisions that they claim to be against it's really just ironic to m that they continue to do thi and push their own agendas and not learn from anything they'v done the fact that so many youn people have left the party back in 2012, they had a whole new mantra where they were going to recruit and diversify instead, they double down an now it's a party of old whit people, which will continue to be the party as long as donald trump is at the center of it they will never learned an lessons from any of this and i do fear, i have a youn daughter, she is ten months old, what's going to end up happening because of the struggles in the states, which is been the republican strateg all along.

democrats are good at th ground game. they need to get better at the long game. really pay tension to th states or else we will set ourselves back by decades. >> i think senator tim scott and nikki haley might want a word on the optics of th republican party i think you make an importan point, ashley. tara, look, frankly, i think i is shaping up that abortio rights and just women's rights frankly, and health care, ar really shaping up to b defining issues for not just democrats but republicans in 2024 what are republicans saying to you privately? what is your reporting telling you about how they feel this week >> they do not want 2024 to be another row election, i ca tell you that. at the level of the donor class, that people funding people lik ron desantis, the fact he ha $200 million in the bank, a lo of his top donors can -- diva schwarzman, the top gop

donors, they are not conservative when it comes t abortion and they believe the lates abortion law that has come t ron desantis's desk, the six-week abortion ban is too extreme. he does plan to sign it. they worry it will hurt him in a general election if he win the nomination they are very concerned that roe is going to continue t bring out more democrati voters and alienates women i the suburbs, college educated, swing voting women who tend to determine elections. the moms of lansing, michigan. these are the types of topic that make them go out and vote that very much can concern these donors in the republican party. people like donald trump, he even knows abortion is ver unpopular. that's why he actually blame the overturning of roe for the losses of 2022, which made

evangelicals angry with him. ron desantis is taking a different -- he's going further to the righ of donald trump in an attemp to win the gop primary a lot of the people who have been backing him and have been giving him money are worried that he's going too far, tha he's going to extreme. some of them are testing him they want him to stop this abortion bill. they do not want him to sign it i've been told through sources in tele-hasse that he has ever intent to sign the six-wee abortion ban even if i energizes independent women an democrats in 2024 and we end u seeing a repeat of 2022. >> i was smirking while you ar speaking because donald trum appointed a number of thes justices that were influential in the overturning, in the dodge's decision, for anyone who believed, i think a lot of -- people believe that ro desantis wasn't who they wan to be -- look, governor, i guess i want to end with you because really want your thoughts on

we see what is happening acros the country. we talk about florida. we are talking about wisconsin what happened in tennessee the two youngest black legislators expelled from th house. you were a state representativ in wisconsin but now you have turned your tied to electing folks acros the country. what is your advice to peopl in this moment >> - is that they always try to use crime and violence to attack white laetitia in's. if you have two young blac politicians who are protesting violence, and they have foun themselves out stud by the general assembly in tennessee, it is hypocritical, you ca imagine. but in this moment it requires all these people to stand up they knew what they were u against when the joined th protest. they still did because it wa the right thing to do to stand up i can tell you all the peopl around the country are payin

attention to what is going o there. they hopefully can continue to galvanize even more in thi moment >> former lieutenant governo mandela barnes, thank you. ashley patta, thank you. and tara common, thank you coming up next folks, th regroup is here, barbie and ca bringing life to plastic - the trailer for the new movi with an all star cast, barbi -- joining after the break to dig into that and more your best defense against erosion and cavities is strong enamel- nothing beats it. new pronamel active shield actively shields the enamel to defend against erosion and cavities. i think that this product is a gamechanger for my patients- it really works.

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regroup -- we are here at the regroup where we are turning to ou culture critics. we are digging into the circulating under group chats. we will kick things off with the new barbie movie a new trailer and post wer dropped recently the new movie stars, mark arab and ryan gosling, as one iteration of barbie and can. take a listen to this. >> what are you doing here i am coming with you did you bring a rollerblades i >> literally didn't go nowhere without them i >> thought it might stay ove tonight. >> why >> because we are girlfriend boyfriend. >> to do what? >> i'm actually not sure

>> let's bring in our cultur critic this is a television personality and mental healt advocate this is rishi scott. his pop culture expert we follow them on instagram. okay all ryan gosling, don't know if yo do this but he said the barbie screenplay is the best scrip he has ever read richie, barbie is the best script he's ever read? what do you think was in tha script and are you going to see thi movie? >> first of all, yes i will go see this movie i was looking for the black ca in the background somewher because i didn't see them in the front. i did see me some isa ray. yeah, i will see it. i do have to wonder like, what is in the script that woul make it the best he has ever he has starred in a lot of great movies so for barbie to be it, it mus be something amazing >> that is what i said when i read this i said, the barbie movie now, you, so we must see wha this is about. jade, richie makes a goo point.

i all also didn't see any broc or brown cans in the film. but i did see some other barbies. including isa ray, do olivia and some others. that is the inclusivity of the barbies. what does this mean to you what should folks take from it and also, can we talk about ho can was not a main character when we are playing with the barbies growing up can was jus there to assist. >> that's actually exactly wha ryan gosling said during one o his interviews he said that he, this role mad him feel seen and heard. he said he's doing it for al of the cans. so i guess all the cans ou there that never got their crudos or their place. that is one reason why he said he is very excited to do it. and also, as you said, i was s excited when i saw disarray. but then again, i was like, is that it? is that our token? is that all we get one -- barbie >> isa ray is the president in

the barbie movie, essentiall these parties are people that, the barbies have the stashes o them it's as who they are isa ray is the president of th barbies. i found it so, this so interesting. the cast, and just a momen that this movie is coming out. we heard about it last summe and now it is almost nex summer and it is dropping. richie, thoughts >> well, i noticed you sai that the can was mostly a prop back in the day. but what i also noticed wa that he didn't get that prop - they are getting paid like equally, which is actually amazing. i think. but i don't know then i question that in my mind i'm like, shouldn't she be getting paid more because she is the star? isn't barbie the real star o this >> well, well, well. this is a very good point. i mean, we don't know what, we need to check the bag that marco robbie was getting we will report back.

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