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world. >> i pray and continue to pray that even in doing this it wil bring awareness to other peopl out there about certain type of people and being very cautious and being aware >> so the lesson is be careful when you get close to. >> be very careful, very aware very important >> that's all for this with positive dateline, i'm craig melvin, thank you for watching we and this is dateline. >> i never dreamed somebod could do this. i didn't know why anybody woul want to kill him you're watching on tv, you see it all the time. you just don't think you can happen to you. >> they were a young couple in a hurry to make their fortune. >> 50s, hundreds, twenties
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piles of money >> building a life until one life and it all too soon >> what happens your husband mom? >> i believe he's dead >> he was laying on the floor, and i got scared but >> a young father murdered in broad daylight. it didn't look like a robbery. lots of valuables left behind. lots of secrets to >> it sent chills up my back something was tearing th family apart >> or, was it someone? >> >> in most cold blooded evi person a family feud and an innocen man caught in the middle >> people see the coast of the loved ones, i wanted that so bad. so bad >> hello, welcome to dateline. marcus was a family man.
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a loving son, devoted husband, father of two boys he was also a businessman. like his parents and a successful one of that the money was pouring in, in fact but family business, the two really seem to mix is that what led to mark's death, or was it something else? here's keith morrison with''th root of all evil'' >> the hunting is good here in the arkansas delta, twice year a horde of migratin mallards descend on floode rice fields, deers stare out through thick hardwood, yo have to be quiet, an surefooted, your aim true. that is what marc despain's da taught him, that is what mar taught his own son befor hatred warmed its way in >> sometimes it's overwhelming that anger, isn't it >> it is it is. >> the anger that pitted fathe
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against son. >> it almost got physical, i just, it breaks my heart >> and husband against wife. >> i just wanted to go int protective mode, and protect u all. >> that brought the hunting to town, on a deathly quiet summe afternoon. >> can you please hurry? >> okay i'm going to get the out there. >> please and an ambulance >> what could be left but th bitter taste of recrimination? >> he is evil. he is not the kind of person that he has the public convinced that he is >> jonesboro is both a college town, and a farm town. it tends to the needs of young minds, and rice farmers on the vast plains of sticky fertil clay west of the mississippi river. it is where marc despain breezed through school with hi
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easy charm tana is his mother >> he was the only freshma that we know of that was chose by a senior to go to the senio prom >> marc became a high school football star, his siste jackie watched him bring trophies home to lay at th feet of his father jack. >> he always wanted to impress him and stuff. >> and then, well it's an ol story really >> when i was 18 and he was 19 we just bumped into each other >> pretty michelle, she wa sitting on top of a car when mark spotted her one night tiny, doe-eyed, before lon pregnant >> the way i was brought up, i you got a girl pregnant, you married her. that was just what you did >> so, there was a shotgun wedding. two families thrown together marc and his parents jack an tana, michelle and her lon divorced parents, her mom kath
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and her dad carl michelle also brought along baby from an earlier relationship >> and he never treated he like she was not his, never. >> together they had two boys. >> he loved his kids anything they ever dreamed of, he would do. anything >> the little family moved int a trailer marc's parents bough them, and marc studied hard to become a real estate appraiser like his mom and went into business with hi parents, which, said michelle, is about when things began t go wrong >> marc didn't like to b pushed around by his dad he was an independent person >> the growing tensions spille over at the kitchen table. marc demanded a bigger share o the money. they argued, and then michelle chimed in. oh boy >> oh my goodness. when she opened her mouth, dad just flipped off the handle and, of course, marc just i don't know, stepped in as a husband,
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like a husband should do >> that is how it began, the trouble between father and son the trouble that was going t get so much worse. marc split away from the famil business, michelle helped hi with bookkeeping >> i was just amazed at what they were able to accomplish >> and they were a good team said michelle's mother kathy >> they both just had th ability to work together and make money >> marc got into real estate investment, his first a traile park no one else would touch >> i couldn't believe he bough that what are you thinking? have you lost your mind? he flipped it, made abou 100,000 dollar profit. >> so having done it once, h figured he could do it again and again? >> absolutely! >> and the money seemed to rol in marc moved his family to a upscale neighborhood in th southern part of town.
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a drift from his own parents he spent more and more tim with michelle's, taking them o family trips, he even hire michelle's dad carl to be hi rent collector
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tell me what's going on. >> i don't know. >> michelle ran across the street to a neighbor's house desperate to hide. >> she's not answering the door >> do you want me to stay on the phone with you >> no i need someone >> okay, call your mom >> it was a voice that scare me you know, pick up the phone, you hear one of your kids on the phone, you hear her crying >> kathy raced over there, found michelle sobbing on th curb >> she's going i gotta get t him, i have to get him i grabbed daughter by th shoulders, and i go, michell he is gone he is gone >> so he was, dead on his ow kitchen floor.
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michelle despain's brain the images of the awfu afternoon, shadows in th hallway, her husband, hi
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blood. >> he was laying on the floor. >> is it a sight that lives in your mind a lot? >> a lot oh yeah. >> outside, a crowd of polic and friends, and family, and curious neighbors gathered o the street below marc's house. among them, in an awful state, was marc's sister jackie >> everything was wrapped in tape, police officers, you can't cross here, you can do this, can't do that. i don't know, i just wanted to hold his hands or something. >> detective vic brooks was on the other side of that polic tape >> when i first walked in, i noticed that there was som papers that appeared to be knocked on the ground, and there was some broken glass an stuff liek that on the floor >> investigators snapped photo of the chaos, drawers pulled out in the bedroom, clothe thrown into a bathtub, a
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jewelry case toppled over. somebody was looking for something? >> possibly. >> they asked around the neighborhood, did anyone see any strangers that afternoon and, yes, someone did. nvestigators told prosecutor scott ellington. >> an african american was see in the neighborhood wearing certain colored shirt. >> it wasn't just that, late somebody said they saw an agin and beat up blue mercede circling the neighborhood. so, thieves casing the house maybe, and yet, as detective brooks looked around the house he could see this just didn' have the hallmarks of robbery. the valuable stuff, tv sets, guns, computers, wer untouched. and, look at this photo, sitting next to marc's keys an cell phone on the kitche island, is a container of ic cream. >> it appeared that he had jus walked in and set these item
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down and then was caught totally off-guard. >> all of that seemed like a planned ambushed, dressed up t look like a robbery. the way investigators pieced i together, somebody was waiting for marc to get home, then crept up from behind, shot him twice. >> he had suffered two gunshot wounds, one appeared to have entered on his left side, an another shot he sustained to his face >> that was a kind of a kill shot, or something >> yes >> somebody is making sure >> it appears so, yes. >> why would someone want to kill marc despain? >> i was so confused i just - i didn't think marc had an enemies. and i didn't know why anybod would want to kill him >> detective brooks soon discovered a possible reason even though they had bee living lavishly, marc ha serious money trouble. >> he was kind of embarrasse to have to come and get mone from me. >> it was a couple of months before the murder, sai
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michelle's mother kathy, mar asked her for cash to help pay for michelle's birthda present. >> you know, it's very unusual because usually they go out an buy whatever they want >> not anymore that summer 2011, jonesbor real estate was far from recovered, many of marc' rental properties were underwater, the bank was closing in, tenants were being forced out of their homes. >> so, - >> was there was anybody upset with marc, was it his tenants, could this have been somebod like that? >> and then, an ugly littl surprise crawled out of marc's own troubled family. marc and his parents were -- lawsuits at each other ove some shared property the prosecutor heard tha marc's dad jack was a hothead. >> jack was very, very angry a marc for mishandling thi property that they co-owne together >> yes, but it went deeper tha that, it went to a very dark place as you will see. and because of it, marc hadn't spoken to his parents in years so, when jack showed up at the crime scene, the suspicion was well, laudable michelle's dad carl, started yelling at him
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poison far more potent tha money had come between fathe and son. >> i never saw it coming, don't think marc ever sa coming >> it began, said michelle when her 13-year-old daughte told them an ugly story. that her grandpa jack asked he to take nude photos of herself on his phone marc called a family meeting >> marc told us that you know, there is a problem, we want to help you, you know, we are not here to point fingers at you o judge you. >> jack swore he did nothing wrong. >> marc called in the police tana, jack's wife of more than 30 years, left him, moved in with marc and michelle >> how do you prepare for thing like that? >> you don't you don't prepare. >> what was that like? >> you just, your mind is in overdrive, you know trying t think, you know oh my god, could this have possibly
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happened >> but, after the police interviewed the girl, and then jack, and the girl again, hear her story change and becom more elaborate, th investigation was dropped. and tana riven with guil forever suspecting jack abused his granddaughter, went back t him, and begged fo forgiveness. >> the man i have been married to for over 30 years, and went to high school with, and the doubting him, and knowing shouldn't have >> but marc and michelle believing the girl, never spok to his mum or dad again, cut them off from the grandkids, disowned marc's sister when sh took jack's side >> i believe dad 100%. i don't believe he had anythin to do with it. >> so that was the ugl backdrop to the murder investigation. and detective brooks would hav to figure out if this year's old unproven allegation had so eaten away at marc's dad tha it pushed him over the edge.
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time to meet potential suspect number one >> i'm gonna close that door mr. despain. >> detective brooks sat down with jack in an interrogatio room and watch the man fall apart >> i can't >> was this true grief the detective was witnessing, or regret, or guilt over somethin jack had done or hadn't done >> i was too late. >> too late? what did he mean jack didn't shy away fro discussing those abuse allegations, here's how it happened he said >> she had taken some nude photos of herself and sent the to her boyfriends. >> jack said he found out th
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marc, not kill him >> i know i -- but i love him dearly. >> anyway, when marc was murdered, said jack, he wa miles away at his own house. >> i was on the roof trying to put some shingles on >> that alibi would have to be checked out of course. but even before detectiv brooks had a chance to do that other members of the famil came down to the police statio and told them, don't be fooled by jack's tears. he was an angry, and possibl violent man. >> he said i will ruin you and your family. he said, for y'all accusing me of this. he said, i will see you burned this is michelle's dad carl, the man who'd been cursing jac out on the street right at the murder scene >> if that's what you're asking, i'd point it at jack >> detective brooks coul plainly see this was a famil with a troubling history so they made a decision, t attend marc despains visitation, take a look around, see what his gut would tell him
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>> i saw a note in your case file, you wrote this has to be one of the strangest visitations i ever attended. >> yes it was just a cold feeling it just did not feel right >> was the killer sitting amon the mourners, planning a nex move >> coming up, a family feud at the funeral. >> she calls the police on us. >> and somebody else calls the police with a tip that could crack the case >> that was a nice little gift >> it was. >> when''the root of all evil''continues. the #1 choice of dogs. digestive and neurological side effects have been reported. ask your vet for heartgard plus.
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the violence in the middle east now, back to dateline. michelle and marc, jus children really, when they got married. now marc was dead, gunned down in the family kitchen, and michelle had to plan his funeral. she was barely functioning, sh said >> i couldn't even tell you wh was at the, you know, who wa there. it was just a blur it all still feels like a blur >> but there was one thing she was clear about. marc's parents and sister were not welcome at his funeral it was the same at the cemetery >> she is literally trying t get him in the ground before w
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caught carl right where he sai he was around the time marc wa gunned down, meeting his daughter at the bank where she worked he could not have shot marc. while the investigatio continued, marc's parents spen time at the cemetery finally able to do what they couldn't when their son wa still alive. >> we talked to him, talk to marc >> the rainy days were the worst. i didn't like rainy days >> what do you mean, rainy days? >> i didn't like him getting wet. i knew he was in heaven. but i just didn't like the rai on him >> and then, pure luck really, remember how neighbors reporte seeing an african-american stranger in the neighborhood now, someone called the cops with the tip someone who matched that description was actually boasting about shooting marc
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despain. >> that was a nice little gift >> it was. >> couldnt take him long t find the guy street name? quallo real name? terrence barker. and he was nervous >> i can see your heart beatin through your shirt right now i know you're scared >> he denied everything. >> detective brooks wasn't buying it because by then, detectives also tracked down the driver of that beat up blu mercedes seen near the house before the murder. and he told the cops that he took quallo to meet a man at a church parking lot and that man wanted a job done was that job murder? by now, detective brooks had been working night and day for a week his store of patience ran out. was it that angry speech o another long night in his cell the next day, quallo cam clean. for a promise of $7,000 to $10 000, still unpaid, he said, he
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took the job to shoot and kill marc despain he didn't know marc from adam, he said, it was the man from the parking lot who took him t marc's house, told him where t lie and wait for marc, gave hi a gun. and then, quallo said somethin rather surprising. the shooter who executed a stranger for the mere promis of a few grand, said that he was appalled, not at himself at the man who hired him if the hitmen was telling th truth, detective brooks's hunc was right. someone who claimed to lov marc also plotted his death. but who? coming up, michelle confesse to an affair >> and there was another surprise >> there were two insuranc
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that he was tired of it. >> did you investigate whether or not any abuse actuall occurred in that marraige? >> there was not any abuse eve found to have happened >> so, if the abuse story wa an obvious lie, why did carl d it marc's parents were certai that he didn't come up with th idea on his own.
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the real mastermind, the believed, was someone else ver close to marc. his wife, michelle >> -- see carl taking my son's life with michelle being involved >> michelle was far from a loving, doting wife, he said the woman they knew was pure self interest, would d anything to get what she wanted exhibit a -- so, what was it that jus turned marc against you? >> michele's manipulation. >> it was michele who pushed marc to break away from th family business, they said michelle who tore the family apart by stoking her own daughter's allegations of abus to drive a permanent wedge between marc and his dad and get marc and his money all t herself. they could easily see he goating her father int planning a murder. >> michelle is a sociopath she absolutely cares nothing
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about anyone or anything but michelle >> what an allegation, if true and, as it happened, detective brooks was pretty sure he sa an effort by the grieving wido to manipulate him. in the interview room, o course, right after the murder all that emotion in her voice. .. it seemed like an act t him. >> there were no tears no tears >> but her voice of desperatio captured on the 9-1-1 call surely that was real maybe not. one of michelle's neighbor said they saw her standing calmly in the middle of th lawn >> they see a women standing out there talking on her phone it didn't appear to be in grievous situation, for sure >> didn't look like she wa
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calling around the neighborhoo for help >> no. >> mark's sister still remembered how cool michelle seemed at the crime scene. >> i think what bothered me th most is how clean she was. like, her hair was still perfect, her nails were stil perfect. >> what would you have expected? >> well, as brutal as it sounds, some blood underneath he fingernails, or something. >> like she got down there and tried to revive him? >> something >> though detective brooks too a look at michelle's story as he invited marc, who wa working from home, to have lunch with her downtown an then after lunch they went across the street to buy ice cream for dessert. even here, marc had only minutes to live. phone records showed that in the hours leading up to mark's death, there were calls and flurry of text messages betwee michelle and her dad >> what the investigator found
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was that there was an enormous amount of texts missing. there were chunks of texts missing from carl's phone an from michelle's phone. >> anything interesting or suspicions about the fact that there is something missing fro both phones? >> immediately it wa suspicious >> on the day that her dad was arrested, detective brooks invited michelle back to the police station and asked her point blank. but she admitted she was hidin something. seeing a guy an affair? it all tumbled out how michelle was dipping int family finances to pay for her lovers apartment, for hi groceries. maybe marc was on to her was about to find out what michelle was doing behind hi back marc's parents believed th michelle they knew would rathe see her husband dead than risk being on the losing end of a
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messy divorce. >> so it was all gonna fal apart? >> yeah. >> from trailer trash to a ric woman, so she thought in her mind she didn't want to go back t being trailer trash again. and she just couldn't stand it the thought. >> but if mark died? >> we found there were two insurance policies huge for the amount of $500,000 >> that is a healthy chunk o change >> yes, sir. >> a whole notch of stew and suspicion by now but none of it actual proof. months went by, michelle wen on with her life jack and tana pushed investigators to keep going, investigators to keep going, they eve
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i'm natalie morales. a family rift, sexual beus allegations, money issues, big insurance pales, even an affair this story had all the makings of a hollywood script, but i was all too real for all those who love and lost marc despain his parents wanted the truth and sorted investigators here's keith morrison with the conclusion of the root of al evil >> jack and tana despain heard how their son's widow wa living with a boyfriend on her arm, with life insurance money in her pocket. and they fumed >> she is buying stuff and buying clothes, and going to restaurants and it is very har for us to take >> detective brooks wa
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determined to see the case through. just like marc's parents, he believed michelle orchestrated>i
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away for lunch >> yes >> she says she can. >> she can and he replies, okay i will let you know the time >> in my review of some of the text messages is marc wasn't interested in going to eat lunch that day, but she begged him to take her to lunch >> after lunch, remember, sh asked marc to linger for an ic cream treat. all the while texting her dad, said the prosecutor. tipping him off to marc' whereabouts, as carl placed killer in their home >> it kind of sent chills up m back how -- what kind of person hav you got to be to let you husband walk away from you knowing what he's going to wal into when he gets home >> armed with their ne evidence, police arreste michelle she was charged with capital murder, for planning and orchestrating the crime. she denied it, said she coul explain everything
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and agreed to tell us. >> why people should believe that you had nothing to do wit the plot to kill marc? >> because i didn't. he was such a good dad such a good dad. anyone who knows me, knows tha my kids are so important to me the most important thing and i would never want them to not have their dad >> but she did want out of the marriage, she said so, those back and forth texts with her dad that day di involve a plot just not murder. >> what did you think he was helping you do >> leave >> how was he going to help yo leave? >> by getting things while w were gone. >> so, she'd keep marc at lunc while carl and two hard hand moved her stuff out of the house. but her dad changed the plan o her, she said. used those men to kill her
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husband. she swore to us she had no ide when she met her dad at th bank that day, what he'd jus done you're this close to each other, father and daughter. and you're looking in his eyes you're talking to him. he gives no hint that he jus killed your husband? >> not at all. >> and then michelle, what's the expression threw her father under the bus carl killed marc, she said, no because he thought marc wa abusing her, but for money for a piece of the insurance payout >> but you were gonna get th insurance. >> correct >> so, even if it was his idea it makes you look pretty guilty >> right one thing that he always tol me and my sister growing up wa that you use people for what you can get out of them, you know >> that was what he told you >> i never dreamed he would do it to me
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use me >> did he? or was michelle the clever user? in our interview, michelle denied being a maste manipulator. she denied she stoped those se abuse allegations, or that she engineered marc's split with his parents. for that, she blamed jack an tana >> i never would have walked away from my kids in the first place. i never would have >> in the end, they didn't wal away from their kid either because who was pushing from day one, to solve the murder who kept pushing month after month after month? >> my opinion on that is their hatred toward me it wasn't anything to do wit marc it didn't have anything to d with marc. it was all about jack despain' hatred towards me. >> you seriously believe that? >> i do. >> michelle, out on bail waited for trial her mother, kathy, defended he
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around town. did you ever let yourself thin she was involved >> the daughter i know the daughter i helped raise? no >> meanwhile, michelle's attorney's toke a closer loo at those recovered tex
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apprehension, said the defense >> after some prayer, marc's mother said she could live wit that >> i'm not a gambling person you know, even if we'd went to trial, it would have only take one sympathetic juror to hav set her free >> it was more than three year after the death of her husband when michelle despain walked into the courtroom to be sentenced. she left in handcuffs, mouthin i love you to her mom. her dad and the shooter got 35 years. but michelle, though sentenced to 30 years was out on parol after less than five until then, her mother raise
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the kids jack and tana hope one day those kids will want to know them but they will want to hear about their dad, about their love for him before all this hate >> marc's friends told us that you were his hero, jack. >> yeah. >> you knew that >> god, i loved. >> i'm sorry, jack >> they set up a charity t help other victims of crimes it's called marc's place >> we are going to try to move forward, something positiv that we think marc would b very proud of. >> and on a fall sunset, the gathered family and friend together to remember their son and finally say goodbye. >> i tell people all the time, the ones you love, let the know, because you never know the moment they may be gone.
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>> that is all for this editio of dateline. i'm natalie morales. thank you for watching hello, i'm craig melvin, and this is dateline >> all i could see was a dar hallway the light coming out o a broom. what am i going to see, abou is this going to be? worst-case in there and what i going to my head >> lisa and kevin and marriage blending their lives and children's >> one big happy family over there. >> with enough love to block m foster daughter with a trouble past, sabrina. >> but she was told by being place with the - she was ecstatic >> i happy home, until it wa ri

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