it was also resolutions passed by the house of representatives, and i believe the senate as well, condemning the fact that i had been arresd. >> he's been completely cut off. nicholas danilof thanks so much "chris jansing reports" starts right now. >> good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. a dozen more families torn apart today after a shooting at a bank in downtown louisville left four dead and eight others injured including two of the responding officers those officers arriving on scene and engaging the shooter just three minutes after the call went out. >> it is clear from the officers' response that they absolutely saved people's lives. this is a tragic event, but it was the heroic response of all

officers that made sure no more people were seriously injured than what happened. a judge's ruling that could cripple abortion access across the country goes into effect in just four days can the biden administration stop it or simply ignore it? one of those tennessee democrats stripped of office by his colleagues may have his job back by the end of the day, the other by the end of the week but the political fallout for both parties and the state they represent could last much longer but we start with louisville police say they believe it was a current or former employee who was responsible for this morning's shooting at the old national bank. the 146th mass shooting in the country this year. that shooter is now dead along with four others this morning, we saw more proof that it's becoming nearly impossible to find someone not impacted by this kind of gun violence the governor himself, andy beshear making an emotional

revelation in a news conference just a few hours ago. >> i have a very close friend who didn't make it today i have another close friend who didn't either, and one at the hospital i hope is going to make it through my a.g. campaign was out of that building i knew virtually everyone in it. that's my bank i hope they'll all reach out and get the help they need i want people to know that while today is a horrific act, i do believe this is a safe community which officers doing their very best each and every day. that's what we saw here. i want to thank them and all our other law enforcement officers responding and doing their best to try to save some of my friends and many others. >> i want to bring in nbc's ken dilanian who has been following this for us. joyce vance is a former u.s. attorney and law professor at the university of alabama.

frank figliuzzi formerly with the fbi and an msnbc national security analyst so much emotion yet again, ken let's talk nuts and bolts if we can. to start, what's the latest on this >> chris, police say they arrived at the bank in the center of louisville around 8:30 a.m.and greeted by a hail of gunfire. there were reports of shots fired. the police immediately began firing back. the suspect was kid. the police are not saying or aren't sure yet whether he was killed by a police bullet or took his own life. two officers were shot or wounded in the exchange of gunfire. one critically and was taken to surgery. the other brought to the hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. as you said, four people killed inside the bank. eight wounded total, included the officers brought to the hospital police have not yet said what type of weapon was used or what the motive was they did say this was either a rrt or former employ of the bank we were told earlier that they

were investigating this as an incident of workplace violence, chris. >> ken, i know there's another press conference set for 3:00. what are the big questions you think police might be able to answer here? >> obviously the identity of the shooter, chris, and what was the connection to the bank what, if any, evidence do they have about motive and what type of weapon was used here? there are witness reports this shooter had a long gun that's important because we're having a debate in this country -- president biden has proposed an assault weapons ban. it would answer the question of why so many people were killed so quickly even though police responded as fast as they could respond. it's perplexing to me why the police haven't disclosed that yet. they certainly know the answer to that question, chris. >> frank, can you give us insight as to why that might be? do you think they know the answer to that, and what's the focus of their investigation in these early hours? >> i think they've been pretty reasonably circumspect to give

out too much information since it's so early. it also could result in some confusion in terms of the ability to trace the weapon. it could also be modified. a lot of things get described as long guns. they start out as pistols and get modified to look like a long gun. it could be a ghost gun. i think the next press conference they'll want to be in position to say, look, this was the make and model it was lawfully purchased or not. i think that's coming soon but while we all understandably get caught up in this discussion of, well, was it lawfully purchased? was it an ar-15 or assault-style weapon was it mental illness at work? was it a disgruntled employee? there's only one common denominator that cuts across all of these shootings, and that's the gun. that's what we need to wrestle with as a society. everything else falls aside when you realize the one truth and reality in all mass shootings is

the gun. >> joyce, police say the shooter was connected to the bank as a current or former employee people do want to know what's the motive here. you and i have talked, unfortunately, just in the last month, in a situation similar to this, mass shooting. the shooter is dead. but there is still obviously an investigation and questions that people, particularly the victims and the community want answered. what are you looking at right now? >> right so those are the two early concerns in a situation like this where the shooter is dead first, you have to figure out, is there any continuing threat did the shooter, for instance, booby trap a residence or some other place that still presents a danger to the public how did they get the firearms? might there will be other firearms that might have gone into circulation to people that

should not have them are there other, as in the case of the michigan school shooting that we have discussed where parents might bear some responsibility this looks like a different situation. but those are the early concerns law enforcement gets to work on. then you have to think about communities which don't feel sake in the wake of these incidents. that's obviously a gross understatement we heard governor beshear try to calm those concerns and say i still believe this community is fundamentally safe despite this incident a big part of restoring that sense of normalcy is learning the motive for the shooting, trying to understand the understandable, but hopefully to get some sense that it was limited to this very specific situation, and then helping people in the community who have been directly and indirectly impacted and move on. >> ken, what can you tell us about the gun laws in kentucky >> kentucky is a red state with republican legislature, and it's

got very liberal gun laws. there's no waiting period, no state-mandated background check. anyone who is 21 or older and is lawfully authorized to purchase a gun can carry one concealed. the legislature recently passed a law making it illegal for state officials to cooperate with the enforcement of certain federal gun laws. that passed without the governor's signature he didn't veto that bill and it became law a few weeks ago, chris. >> frank, can you touch on the police response? clearly that was a big factor in keeping things from being a lot worse. it also raises the question, really begs the question about it's the reason the police response has gotten so good is because we've had so much experience as a country with this and lessons are learned. >> this is the state of the world we're living in, we're grading a mass shooting by the

level of the police response yes, heroes right now including two officers shot, one in cri critical condition the response seems to be extremely quick and effective. kudos to them. as legislators wrestle with laws and what to do and not do, trainers who study this need to start thinking about this as the norm going forward i think we need more ballistic shields in every patrol car. we need long guns in the patrol car. even in the excellent response in the nashville elementary school shooting, we saw body cam video of the officers having to go to his trunk, open the trunk, unzip a bag, take out his rifle. those are precious seconds that are lost i know folks in law enforcement will be studying all of this and saying money has to be spent in the budget for ballistic shields

in every car so we don't have two officers shot every time we go in, and we need long guns inside every single patrol car >> we'll get our next update at 3:00 p.m. eastern and have it for you live on msnbc. today's mass shooting is part of a string of them in recent days, several involving teenagers and children it started during a high school senior skip day, six people shot, most of them teenagers five of the six have been released from the hospital police say two teenager suspects were arrested on gun possession charges. in new orleans investigators are looking for the person who shot two women and two children at an intersection friday afternoon. 10-year-old boy in that car was critically injured an 8-year-old girl was also hurt then on saturday in houston four people were shot at a

celebration of life. how is that for irony? the "houston chronicle" reports that two of the victims were also teenagers they did not release any additional details gun violence is an issue likely to be at the forefront of the 2024 race for the white house along with abortion rights as president biden tells nbc he is running in 2024. so when will we get an official announcement we're back in 60 seconds e servit in the clouds of your choice. with flexible multi-cloud services that enable digital innovation and enterprise control, vmware helps you innovate and grow. age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv (vo) sail through the heart of historic cities now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. and unforgettable scenery with viking.

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extraordinary legal and political battle that will play out over the coming days and weeks starts with its impact on millions of women, but it doesn't end there. it also includes brand new questions about the extent of the fda's authority, the influence of individual judges over american life and what happens when the two collide i want to bring in nbc's allie raffa at the white house joyce vance is back with me, and robert gibbs served as white house press secretary under president obama and is an msnbc political analyst. allie, he says he's running. >> take a listen to the comments that the president made to our own al roker when asked whether he would run again in 2024, the most definitive and confident comments from the president to that very question listen here. >> are you saying that you would be taking part in our upcoming election in 2024 >> i'll either roll an egg or be

the guy pushing them out. >> help a brother out. make some news for me. >> i plan on running, al, but we're not prepared to announce it yet. >> reporter: chris, the short and sweet answer to your question of, he says he's going to run again, why doesn't he just say it is simply because he doesn't need to right now. remember, it's april we originally thought this announcement was going to come in april now we know that his team is taking their time ironing out really the contours of this expected 2024 campaign, and the reason he's doing that, he has a couple of factors behind it. first of all, we know there's no real hefty democratic challenger that could come out and challenge president biden so far. a lot of the likely democratic challengers he could have faced have already committed to being 2024 surrogates for him on the campaign trail the longer he takes to make this decision, to make this announcement, the less time it

gives democratic challengers to prepare for their own presidential bids. he also is taking advantage of the spotlight being on the former president and his legal woes that's something this white house welcomes as taking off the attention and pressure off the president. so at this point he's kept us waiting for months now i would not be surprised if we have to wait a couple more weeks, possibly months for this announcement >> robert, let's talk about one of the key issues this president is going to have to deal with, and that saab borgs, the texas abortion ruling specifically he's under a lot of pressure from some democrats to take a pretty extraordinary step. i want to play what congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez had to say about it. >> i believe the biden administration should ignore this ruling. i think that we -- the courts have the legitimacy and they rely on the legitimacy of their

rulings, and what they are currently doing is engaged in an unprecedented and dramatic erosion of the legitimacy of the courts. >> just a short time ago, robert, hhs pushed back i they said they wouldn't ignore a judicial order how important is this decision for the administration >> well, i think the decision that was done in texas is extraordinary important. i also believe it's important the decision that appears to have been made at hhs not to ignore the ruling, you can imagine, chris t slippery slope we might soon get on the the executive branch, legislative branch or others decided to ignore rulings i don't think that lessen, quite frankly, the pressure from a health care perspective or a political perspective really on both sides of this this is an extraordinarily important case i don't see or understand how

theplaintiffs have standing here, to be hon 100% honest with you. i don't understand how they can reconfigure a 23-year-old approval for the drug when we know congress, the legislative branch, has the power for the fda to decide those questions. i think this will get put before the courts quickly should the courts de side to go along with a texas judge, i think you'll see a political uprising that will make last year and the dobbs decision look small by comparison. >> that's the politics of it, joyce. a lot of people would agree with robert on both sides of the aisle, frankly having said that, from a legal standpoint, what would it mean if an administration simply decided that they were going to ignore a judicial ruling there are things in process to deal with that, right? >> so i think robert tees it up perfectly, the politics and the law align here you cannot ignore decisions made by courts. we have a process in our country

for challenging those decisions through the appellate process. it's disheartening to see this ruling it will harm women it will damage their health. it will hurt their lives there's considerable uncertainty. just this morning the justice department asked the judge who issued a contrary ruling in washington to clarify his ruling doj making the point that the fda has now been told to maintain two inconsistent policies it cannot do that. the judge in washington in his ruling made a very important point. he said after dobbs the rule in this country when it comes to abortion is state by state that judge declined to enter a nationwide injunction that would have made mifepristone available. without calling out his colleague on the federal bench in texas, he seemed to say the decision in texas is wrong

because it purports to speak for everyone, for every state in the country. the supreme court has said those rules are station wide now it will be up to the supreme court to tell us if that's what they really meant and i suspect it goes for decision very quickly. >> the "wall street journal" had a phrase in describing democrats reacting to the texas judge's decision they say democrats were almost gleefully furious over the ruling on friday do you think that accurately reflects the way the party or at least a good chunk of it sees this issue >> no. i think the party and democrats, men, women, independents, republicans see this as an important health care issue. what the dobbs decision did was put the lives of women into jeopardy this furthers putting those lives into jeopardy. i don't think anybody takes solace or excitement in those

types of decisions i think the politics of this are clear, but in reality, the politics of this are clear in red states and blue states it was kansas that first showed the american people the power of this issue last year kansas is not a purple state kansas is not a blue state independents, democrats and republicans all have pushed back on this decision the first dobbs decision and now this decision. >> so joyce, we just got some new reporting on a different topic, and that is that former president trump is moving to block his former vp mike pence from testifying in front of the grand jury investigating trump's role in overturning the 2020 election what do you make of that, and now what >> so what little we know about this, because these are grand jury proceedings but they're all unsealed we see docket entries that show an appeal has been taken most likely this involves the

former president continuing to assert his argument that there's executive privilege that bars mike pence from testifying to the special counsel's grand jury that argument has been a loser for the former president again and again. it is likely to be a loser here as well. this is simply about delaying the inevitable if you're donald trump. >> joyce vance, alley raffa, thank you very much. robert gibbs, you're going to stay with me the push begins to get expelled tennessee lawmakers back on the job. the vote that could make that happen for one of them today and where thfie ght goes next. mae you don't want -to go bowling with us tonight? -yeah. no. there's my little marzipan! [ laughs ] oh, my daughter gives the best hugs! we're just passing through on our way to the jazz jamboree. [ imitates trumpet playing ] and we wanted to thank america's number-one motorcycle insurer -for saving us money. -thank you. [ laughs ] mara, your parents are -- exactly like me? i know, right? well, cherish your friends and loved ones.

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one of two tennessee democrats who statehouse republicans expelled could be reinstated today more than half of the nashville city council confirms they plan to vote for justin jones' reinstatement telling nbc news hundreds of constituents believe the unprecedented move kicking out the lawmakers essentially negates their vote that message hit a cord nationally with an rnc retreat in nashville days away, a committee member tells "the new york times," quote, even in tennessee you have swing districts. if you've angered tens of thousands of students and their parents, you can expose yourself to a united front. nbc's kathy park is live in nashville. robert gibbs is back with me kathy, how likely is it that jones does get reinstated today

and then what happens with justin pearson >> reporter: chris, good afternoon. it's very likely, in fact. in the next couple hours, the national metro council will be holding a special meeting to potentially reappoint their representative justin jones. right now at least 23 members have indicated they plan on doing that so if all goes as planned, later on today we're told that's part one. the next step will be a special election right now a date has not yet been set meanwhile in memphis which is the district of the other ousted lawmaker, justin pearson, they plan to have a similar meeting on wednesday,this with the shelby county commissioners. a similar process there. we'll have to wait to see how things unfold. here in nashville, justin jones is first up. it seems like local lawmakers here, the local legislative body will be putting him back into

office obviously we're still hearing from republican lawmakers who are saying, if that does happen, there will be some backlash. ultimately we have to wait and see how this all plays out later on tonight. >> kathy park, thank you for that robert, again, we've talked to a lot of the constituents of these two lawmakers who got their jobs taken away from them i want to read you one of the reactions because i think it's very succinct in what we're trying to talk about which is this, quote, they took our representative away from us. it's like our vote doesn't matter given the national spotlight on this issue, what are the optics for republicans right now even if both of these guys are reinstated >> well, chris, the optics, obviously, are terrible. you know, you've got -- first of all, two black legislators that were expelled and a white legislator that wasn't is just terrible optics. as you said, there's been the

disenfranchisement of thousands who elected these representatives to serve them. the rnc is coming to nashville in a bit of, at best, poor timing republicans have given these legislators and democrats in tennessee have platforms they could only have dreamt of a few days ago i think all eyes will be on the republicans in the legislature to see how they react to this, to see if they want to continue this fight which is a dead-bang loser for them, or whether they begin to reach out and try to put this back together a bit and try to heal what is just a terrible move by them over the course of the past few days. >> they've gotten a lot of air time, all three of the lawmakers, and one of them, justin jones, essentially says republicans will live to regret this take a listen. >> the most resounding message we're hearing from the white

house and across the world and people across this nation is that this attack on democracy will not go on unchallenged, that the tennessee house republicans' attempt to crucify democracy has instead resurrected a movement led by young people to restore our democracy, build a multiracial revolution. >> a movement by young people is something you know something about because of your time with barack obama it made me think of when wisconsin governor scott walker said younger voters were key in the wisconsin supreme court election are we at the point when gen z, when the younger voters we talked about so often were going to be this force, really are looking like a force that will go into 2024 >> absolutely, chris if you add in some of the issues that they're concerned about and want to see some movement on, whether it's health care and abortion, whether it's things like climate change, i think it's also important to understand that, yes, this happened in tennessee, or that

election in wisconsin. all these things are connected and they're national these aren't local stories they're being covered by msnbc they're being covered by big newspapers they're on the digital news on the phones of millions of young people, and they see what's happening. it's spreading it's how two events in the last week have really galvanized i think the progressive left and the young progressive left, and really put a spotlight on actions that are going to really be hard for republicans to sort of put back in a box. >> i think the problem obviously is that there's one that we're dealing with today that's seemed intractable, and that's guns but in another recent shooting, it wasn't just students from there that were walking out. there were students all across the country, to your point, who were walking out i do wonder, obviously the number one thing, if you believe in an issue, whatever that issue

is, is to vote for somebody who believes the way you do, but will it make a difference? will they make a difference? how long might this process be do you look at 2024 as possibly a sea change, possibly >> it certainly could be look, legislative movements often take a lot longer than people have time or patience for. that's the sort of system in which it was designed hundreds of years ago by the founding fathers. but i think that the galvanize asian is going to keep them into the process and it's going to hold people's feet to the fire accountability is what really makes our politics go, and i think you're seeing from young people, they're going to begin to hold office holders accountable in a way they haven't in previous years and previous elections.

>> robert gibbs, always great to have you on the program. appreciate it. connecticut senator richard blumenthal says he will be back at work next week and has already started physical therapy after surgery for a broken leg on saturday. the 77-year-old says someone tripped and fell on him at the victory parade for the uconn men's basketball team on saturday, and his fellow senator chris murphy tweeted this, after he broke his femur, he got back up, dusted himself off and finished the parade, the most dick blumenthal thing ever we wish him well. the ohio grand jury issues a decision in the shooting of walker we're up next with the details (cecily) on the network worth bragging about. (vo) verizon

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today a special grand jury in akron, ohio, is set to begin hearing evidence in the police shooting of jalen walker to decide if charges should be filed against the eight officers who shot the 25-year-old 46 times last year. it has businesses in the city on edge, boarding up windows over fears of the potential protests. joining me from outside the courthouse in akron, ohio, nbc's jesse kirsch and also with me, civil rights attorney -- >> reporter: they're being selected today it will include nine members

as you said, special grand jury. this is the only case that they will be reviewing. seven of the nine members will have to find probable cause for an indictment to be issued that could happen against any or all of the eight police officers involved in the shooting death of jalen walker back in june of last year. again, this is about figuring out if any of these officers will face a trial down the line. this is unfolding as we're learning more about what potentially could be involved in these grand jury proceedings we're told by officials it is expected the presentation of evidence by prosecutors could last a week and the evidence presented could include testimony including from the police officers themselves as well as a review of body camera worn footage that an additionally some audio could also be played for the grand jury a nine-member panel. 7 of the 9 have to find probable cause. we're in a community that is familiar with unrest in the aftermath of this incident back in june of last year

you can see there's fencing up around the courthouse. there are windows in town boarded up as well here is part of what we heard from community members. >> i think we've seen this before, and everyone knows what's right and wrong, whether they say they don't or they do they know. obviously, in my opinion it was wrong. they should be punished the way that they punish everybody else. >> reporter: while this is going on, the city has declared a demonstration zone in the middle of a street so people can be protesting, expressing their free speech rights without worrying about traffic coming through, something emphasized is peaceful protest that is what they're hoping to see in this community, chris this is something that will be watched closely. we don't know how long exactly we're expecting it could take a week it's on the prosecutors' and grand jury's timeline. >> it starts with a traffic

stop, ends with a black man debt as jesse pointed out, there's video, there will be interviews. there's an autopsy that found 46 entrance and graze wounds among other things presented to this special grand jury what does the prosecutor need to show to get indictments? we talk about probable cause which have very different from beyond a reasonable doubt at trial. >> that's right, chris really what the prosecutor has to show is first convincing the grand jury that, listen, the analysis applies to each individual shot that is fired. each time a shot is fired, you've got to ask yourself a question was it justified? that's really hard to argue because at the time he's shot and killed, he's unarmed and not posing a threat to the police officers if the grand jury looks at it through that lens, which is how they'd look at it for everyone that's not a police officer, it's hard to say they don't draw the conclusion that each shot that's fired doesn't pose a risk of them facing charges you've got to remember, a bullet doesn't have a name on it.

every shot they fired not only is unjustified towards him, but puts bystanders and other members of the public at risk. >> one of the arguments i've heard is that -- from the police officers' side is the fact that there were so many bullets fired is proof, in fact, that officers thought their lives were at risk >> there you get into a difficult situation, chris you have two sides to this i do not give both sides equal weight however, when investigators ask officers who empty their clips after the fact how many shots did you fire, it's not uncommon for them to say one or two however, i think the more clear indication is they're responding to a situation emotionally rather than rationally police officers do often believe their lives are at risk during traffic stops. organizations like "the new york times" have done reporting in recent years that shows that is completely, absolutely untrue. the bigger factor here is going to be the claim that walker fired a shot during the course of the chase

if you look at the video, you don't see it in the dash camera footage from the police chase. when the police department presented this case they used an overhead camera to say, look, there you see a muzzle flash that means he took a shot. the truth is, it should go from the point of view from the officers who were firing at him when they killed him it's a weak case under those circumstances. >> let me ask you finally about the timing of this, if it takes about a week, if that's how long the jury selection and presentation lasts, is that about typical? does it tell us anything about the complexity of this case? >> it's not at all typical it doesn't tell us anything about the complexity of the case it does reference a subtle version of police reform here is why i say that grand juries are typically empanelled for a period of weeks, not month during that time they hear dozens, often hundreds of cases. hear you have a grand jury empanelled for one week -- well, maybe more than a week but it shouldn't take longer than that.

they'll only hear evidence of one case that lets you know that prosecutors realize they have to reassure the public that justice will be served at the same time it is weighted in favor of the police prosecutors control the information the grand jury will hear they'll probably hear from police witnesses they're not going to be hearing from anyone who speaks on walker's behalf. the grand jury has independent investigative powers, but they really only get exercised when you've got a lawyer on the grand jury who actually knows how to use them because everyday people don't. >> david henderson, jesse kirsch, thank you, appreciate it. police are investigating a shocking attack against a religious leader inside a prominent new jersey mosque. an i'm man at the omar mosque was stabbed multiple times in the back while leading morning prayers. the suspect is in police custody after being subdued by congregates. he faces a number of charges including attempted murder as of now, there's no clear motive. still ahead, the baseless

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now to the drama, the jewels, the royal rift and even a new emoji all tied up in one weekend as buckingham palace reveals details surrounding king charles upcoming coronation. here's nbc's molly hunter. >> the royal family gathered for easter sunday, the first since queen elizabeth's passing, all decked out in blue, kate, the princess of wales hand in hand with her 4, almost 5-year-old son louie. george in a suit looking very grown up and charlotte offering a little wave to the crowd after easter services, the palace releasing new details about the may 6th coronation of king charles. >> many aspects of the coronation are designed to reflect what sort of king charles wants to be. >> reporter: the invitations of

course going out listing his wife camila as queen, instead of queen consort for the first time we have learned there will be two processions, the first, the king's procession, the monarch leaving buckingham palace in the diamond jubilee state coach heading down the mile at parliament street and arriving at westminster abobey. the arch bishop of contanterbur will begin the coronation. >> it's filled with national identity, symbolism, praopaganda it's rooted in our history, and i think that's what makes it important now, and it's wh people very much feed into it, and they want it to happen they're excited about it. >> camila will wear queen mary's crown, and for charles, first the imperial sate crown made for king george vi coronation, and st. edwards crown at the end of

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