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well, we made it to friday thanks for joining us. it is 10:00 eastern. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york they got him, helicopters, armed federal agents all swarming the house of the alleged leaker of classified materials that sent the pentagon into damage control mode cameras capturing the 21-year-old air national guardsman being walked from that home neighbors shocked at his arrest. >> i saw the name jack teixeira, i was like i know that kid that sounds wicked familiar. >> good kid, had a good head on his shoulderin his shouldhoulders, wanted to jn the military. >> just moments ago, we learned the suspect jack teixeira is expected to appear any minute in federal court in boston. attorney general merrick garland signaling he could be charged under the espionage act, the glu details we're learning about the alleged leaker in just moments. in the dark of night in the

sunshine state, florida governor ron desantis signed a six-week abortion bill into law, how this could impact his 2024 candidacy, and what it means for millions of women in the southeast. propublica was first to report about supreme court justice clarence thomas enjoying some of the finer things in life, now pro pupublica has new reporting. one of the reporters behind this story explains what exactly it involved we're going to start with the suspect appearing in court in boston any moment now, nbc's ron allen is outside that courthouse in boston we also have with us nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian at the justice department, and we have clint watts, former fbi special agent, former u.s. army infantry soldier and an msnbc national security analyst, and barbara mcquade former u.s.

attorney thank you all for being here this hearing expected to start any moment what can we expect to happen inside that courtroom today? >> it's scheduled to start at 10:00 a.m., and we have a producer in the courtroom who's going to tell us what happened we expect this to be very brief, a first appearance, initial appearance in federal court lasts a matter of minutes where he will be advised of his rights, explain why he was arrested and then there will be a discussion of bail, and you would expect the government to take a very harsh, very strong stance on whether he is released on bail or not again, it should only happen -- it should only last just a few minutes. and hopefully we will learn more about him. we may not know much more about the government's case against him, but he's a 21-year-old person who was in the air national forward for just about two years, and all this seemed to be happening in a private online gaming chat room. he doesn't seem to fit the

profile of a spy or of a whistle-blower or someone who had a political motive, at least based on the reporting that's happened since his arrest and since the documents were first discovered about a week or so ago. again, hopefully we will have word and we will let you know what happens as soon as we know. >> okay, we will obviously come back to you just as soon as you have additional information. ken, meantime, what are we learning about this suspect, jack teixeira? >> ana, what we're learning is that the people close to him do not believe he had any political motive or was a whistle-blower and that they're saying that he didn't really intend for these documents to spill into public view he was leaking them on a gaming platform called discord in a private chat room called thug shaker central, mostly to younger people it appeared this guy was just trying to impress his friends. he was young himself, as ron said, 21 years old, born after 9/11, but the way he got this material we're learning thanks

to reporting by courtney kube was he was an i.t. specialist. an i.t. specialist within an intelligence unit with a top secret clearance it's not clear whether he used the i.t. access to steal the documents or whether he had access by way of being an i.t. specialist it's just a reminder that there are so many people, 1.3 million people with top secret security clearances including some very young people, including some people with extremist views and the u.s. government doesn't have a handle on it this guy was able to publish these documents on this server they were sitting there were more than a year until they finally began to spill out to other places and they became public causing massive embarrassment, and according to members of congress, potential loss of lives on the ukrainian battlefield, so a real nightmare for the u.s. intelligence community. >> you mentioned extremist views, ken did teixeira have extremist views? >> according to the reporting we're seeing, people in this

chat room who are talking to journalists, they say yes, one of his views was that the buffalo supermarket massacre was allowed by the fbi and the u.s. government to happen for nefarious reasons, and there's also been talk about some racist rhetoric inside that chat room, some extremism around guns and some anti-government views, embrace of conspiracy theories around waco and ruby ridge. that doesn't appear to be his motive, but it sort of adds to the picture of a person with a distorted world view who obviously took this dramatic step of violating his oath and n nondisclosure agreement and publishing these highly sensitive documents, even if he didn't think they were going to become public that was against the law and his oath. >> how does somebody like this get a security clearance is there vetting that has to happen in order for somebody, an i.t. person in this case who's a cyber transport systems

journeyman, that was his title with the air national guard, how did he get a security clearance? >> yeah, so everyone submits an sf- sf-86 which is a questionnaire for national security clearance. they have investigators go through the background remember, when someone's 20 or 21 years old, their background and what's available is fairly limited. i think what ken was pointed to, their views are not well-known nor are they formed nor are you aware of them. i think you had the interview of the naneighbor who said he was good kid, wanted to go into the military that's probably all they got in a background investigation similarly, this goes back to what's in their online profile investigators do not look at that stuff generally they don't have it available to them this is one of the tensions about privacy versus security that's gone on for quite some time now you look at what the discussion faces were, this person's online identity, it's very clear that he had some conspiratorial views about the government, the government that he's working for those are all risk factors,

behavioral factors we'd be worried about in terms of giving someone a clearance. how would investigators know about this on a close forum like this. >> i also wonder to somebody who is a cyber transport systems journeyman who does i.t. work, obviously he has to have access to the networks, but would that role automatically grant him access to the contents of the documents or information that's part of the system >> i don't think we know yet, and i think the investigation will have to move forward a little bit we'll have to get some more details. you know, there's some things to think about. was this individual actually sitting in like an i.t. administrator role you might remember edward snowden, very similar situation, was able to sea e all of the communications or files in different locations. or was this person able to pick up, actually printed out documents that were laying around in terms of this facility and then move them outside of the building i don't know we know these things yet but at the same time, it just

points to this is someone who just two years ago was just entering the military, is quickly given access to all of the secrets essentially that are going on in our government, and it really rewinds us 20 years to when we were going into 9/11, part of the problem was there were silos of information. people couldn't share information. we opened up clearances, and now we've had at least three or four incidents overs last decade where opening up all of that information has led to a lot of leaking of classified information. >> i want to get barbara into the conversation teixeira is likely facing charges under the espionage act. does that make sense to you based on what we know? >> it does the espionage act is designed for this kind of scenario, when a person who is authorized, has a clearance, willfully discloses national defense information it appears that all of those elements are met here. i had a clearance, when i got mine i got training i was briefed. i had to sign documents

explaining, you know, that i understood that release of any of this classified information was a crime, and he no doubt had that same kind of training now, motive is often a decision that decision-makers make, prosecutors look at when they're deciding whether to file charges, so sometimes accidental mishandling is not charged you know, what we are seeing with joe biden and mike pence, for example with their retention of classified documents, but when it is done willfully and shared with others, that could be an aggravating factor that would result in prosecution, even if he only intended to share this with his small group of friends, they alone are unauthorized to receive this information. sharing it on a social media network, an unclassified network alone, there's a risk that anyone in this group may share it with anyone else in the world as happened here i think that charges are very likely for him under the

espionage app. >> i want to play something from "the washington post." papers spoke with one of the members of this online group where teixeira was reportedly posting these documents under the alias o.g. take a listen to this. >> i would not call o.g. a whistle-blower in the slightest. i don't think there was a goal nor some sort of accomplishment that he was looking for in sharing these documents. o.g. was not hostile to the u.s. government he had disagreed with several occasions such as waco and ruby ridge and thought that the government is overreaching in several aspects. there was no heavy snowden like conspiracy here like some people may believe. >> he touches on this here, clint, but what does that tell you with your intel background about the possible motivation for teixeira >> compromise, revenge, ideology, money, ego, the five reasons people oftentimes trade on secrets, i mean, when you look at the discussions that was in that "washington post" article, it's number five, you

kn knows, based on what i've seen so far it's e go he's very young and impressionable this is the danger we have in these sort of closed forums that are very hard to see he probably thought he was with a trusted group of friends this generation has grown up on technology, they'veat was his fs or peer group very different the implications are if he shares that in on an line environment, it can be shared with the entire online environment, that's what we've seen happen over the last two weeks. if he had done that sort of thing 20 years ago in the analog world, would it have leaked out, gotten into pro-russian telegram channels, probably not today it moves very, very quickly. one mistake like this can sink ships. it affects the battlefield in ukraine, this one young man in massachusetts. >> clint watts, barbara mcquade, ken dilanian, thank you for your ongoing reporting, ron allen please come back we have much more ahead in 60 seconds, including a six-week

abortion ban signed quietly overnight by florida's governor. the impact on florida women and others in that region and ron desantis's political future. plus, former president trump and other 2024 hopefuls are flocking to an nra convention today on the heels of several mass shootings the message their presence sends amid a renewed national debate about gun violence. and more reporting from propublica about aus biness transaction between justice clarence thomas and his billionaire friend this is ana cabrera reports, we're back in 60 seconds (vo) with verizon, you can now get a private 5g network.

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announcement the law has some exceptions for rape and incest up to 15 weeks of pregnancy it is widely unpopular in florida. this is a university of north florida poll from march that found 75% of floridians were against this bill including 61% of republicans in that state nbc news senior legal correspondent laura jarrett has more for us. >> reporter: good morning, florida had been one of the last places a woman could go for an abortion in the south. now that state has one of the most restrictive laws on the books. overnight florida governor ron desantis signing a bill that would ban most abortions after six weeks. desantis quietly signing the law just after 11:00 p.m. posting only this photo on twitter a stark contrast to how he publicly celebrated a 15-week ban last spring. >> we are here today to defend those who can't defend themselves

>> reporter: unless blocked in the court, the move will shut off access in a state that saw a 60% increase in women seeking abortions since roe was overturned known as the heartbeat protection act, it does make an exception for abortions up to 15 weeks in cases of rape, incest, or human trafficking >> have all members voted? >> reporter: anger erupting in the florida house during debate over the bill. protests and chaos before the republican-dominated legislature passedit democrats and critics slamming the law as extreme with the white house saying it is out of step with the views of the vast majority of the people of florida and of all the united states all this as the issue of abortion is taking center stage in the 2024 campaign with presidential hopefuls pressed on their positions. >> something that i believe that is a place where you find a

national -- >> i think if we're looking at 15 weeks, what we need to understand is we are not okay with abortion up until the time of birth. >> reporter: meanwhile, a high stakes showdown will soon reach the supreme court over a widely used abortion pill a federal appeals court has blocked a texas ruling that invalidated the approval of mifepristone but rolled back several moves from the fda to make the drug easier to obtain attorney general merrick garland saying the justice department strongly disagrees with the decision and will soon take the case to the nation's highest court. we know this ban will not go into effect right away the current existing abortion law, that's caught up in legal wrangling and that has to get settled before this latest ban can go into effect. we have this just in, thparo block that texas ruling. the drug maker also filed a similar appeal just this morning. we'll keep you posted on that. we have other breaking news

in the special counsel investigation into former president donald trump and january 6th. trump has now officially filed an appeal to try to block his former vice president, mike pence, from testifying in the case, and joining us now to discuss is katherine christian, former assistant manhattan district attorney and an msnbc legal analyst. katherine, good to have you with us just how significant is this, this new filing and appeal trying to block might be pence from testifying? could we expect a decision on this anytime soon? >> i think we will it's significant because it clearly delays the vice president from testifying, but i think, you know, time is of the essence and the court will rule quickly on this issue, and it's interesting because, you know, the vice president has said publicly that he believes that mr. trump was wrong on january 6th and that he, the vice president, had no right to overturn the election. he described mr. trump's words as being reckless and they endangered his family and everyone at the capital that

day, so i anticipate that those public statements that he's already made, he will be asked to make under oath so he's already sort of expressed what he probably will be testifying to, but additionally, the special counsel is going to ask her about the conversations that he had with the president on that day, before, during, and after, and we all saw what happened on january 6th, and we know that vice president trump, you know, the secret service had to bring him down to a secure location, so he will be testifying about those. >> he wrote a lot about his experiences that day on his book that's already out there >> exactly. >> any american has access to that information already, and of course trump has lost some of these other cases where he's tried to exert executive privilege and a judge has essentially said, no, sorry, doesn't apply here and people have gone on to testify. >> it's a delaying tactic. >> absolutely. go ahead >> i was going to say, it's a delay tactic, that's what they're doing, you know, try to

delay him from testifying, and inevitably, he will testify. as you said, he's already said a lot and it's out there in the public for the public to already know >> yes, absolutely well, you know, we've got a lot to talk about in this segment because of all these different cases involving the former president, so i do want to pivot to the deposition just yesterday that trump gave to the new york attorney general's office, and this investigation into his real estate business practices. the last time trump sat for a deposition at the a.g.'s office, which was last august, we reported he invoked the fifth amendment, more than 400 times, and yet we're told this time he spoke a lot. he was there eight hours what can we glean from that? >> that's very surprising. it's surprising because we know that the manhattan d.a.'s office has indicated that they still have a pending investigation involving the exact same facts that the new york state attorney general has filed a lawsuit about, so you better believe

that the manhattan d.a.'s office is going to get a copy of that deposition, and in fact, his answers might also be relevant to the pending indictment that the manhattan d.a.'s office has about hush money it might be relevant, some of his answers to what the fulton county, georgia, d.a. is doing it might be relevant to what the special counsel jack smith is doing. so it's surprising, he had a right to assert his fifth amendment, but he did not do so. >> we don't know what trump actually told them we do know he's been deposed numerous times in the past he's no stranger to litigation, no stranger to depositions it's interesting because "the washington post" reported on a case that happened in 2007, trump gave a deposition when he sued a reporter and according to the post, his answers under oath weren't always truthful, and i quote here, 30 times they caught him. trump had misstated sales at his condo buildings, inflated the pro price of membership at one of

his golf clubs trump's falsehoods were unstrategic, needless, highly specific, easy to disprove when caught, trump sometimes blamed others for the error or explained that the untruthing really was true in his mind because he saw the situation more positively than others did, end quote. again, we don't know what answers he gave yesterday, but assuming he didn't give answers saying i don't know or i don't recall, how useful will his answers be to prosecutors? >> they will be useful because it will show a pattern of misleading statements from, as you said, 2007 to possibly yesterday his deposition and also the other public statements he has made. so they will be very useful to all of the prosecutors who are swirling in his orbit, but particularly the manhattan d.a.'s office because that over 200 page complaint that the new york state a.g. has filed could ask for those facts to be

presented to a grand jury, so he's under criminal jeopardy for the same lawsuit, so it's surprising but he's -- i believe that mr. trump as a client is unprepable. he's going to do what he's going to do. he's going to say what he's going to say regardless of the advice of counsel. >> okay, it will be interesting for us to learn what he actually told them. hopefully we do learn that eventually appreciate your time, happy friday >> thank you up next, the toxic fire that burned for three days in indiana is finally out, but what risk remains? our team is near the burn zone where they have smelled and tasted chemicals in the air. they've seen all kinds of debris plus, parts of florida are still under water after a 1 in 1,000 year storm this and more when "ana cabrera reports" returns it can handle double trouble. for the #1 stain fighter and odor remover, it's got to be tide. - i'm fernando, for the #1 stain fighter i live outside of boston. i've been with consumer cellular for five years.

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we're back with breaking news from the court in boston where the suspected intel leaker appeared just moments ago. nbc's ron allen is back with us outside that boston federal courthouse ron, what did we learn >> reporter: well, it was a brief hearing. behind me perhaps you can see there's a crowd of journalists and cameras waving for the family to come out there are three members of his family in the courtroom, and it was a rather emotional minute when they made eye contact with him as he was brought into the courtroom handcuffed wearing a tan or brown prison jumpsuit they made eye contact with him

and some of the spectators were in tears the judge explained the charges that he was facing they said that he was charged with possessing unclassified documents pertaining to national security and possessing national defense materials. he was told that he has a right to a preliminary hearing, which will come up on the road sometime, and there's a detention hearing scheduled for next week on wednesday when the issue of bail will be discussed. bail wasn't brought up this time at the end of the hearing, he was put back in handcuffs, looked back at his family in the front row, and was escorted out by u.s. marshals so a very brief hearing, as we expected, to be continued next week as this case unfolds. >> okay, ron allen, we know you were getting those notes from our producer who was in the courtroom. i'm also learning the criminal complaint was just unsealed so we have teams looking through that here at msnbc and of course we'll be reporting out on new information, new details that

we're learning there ron allen, thank you for that reporting. meantime, this morning in fort lauderdale, the airport is reopening after it was forced to close for two days because of the record-breaking rain more than two feet of rain fell in parts of southern florida flooding streets, vehicles, stranding lots of residents. fort lauderdale fire is and rescue posted this video of responders carrying a small boy out of his home, they say that was just one of more than 900 calls for help they received nbc's sam brock is live for us from fort lauderdale sam, i see flooding is still a problem apparently how is everybody coping? >> yeah, no question about it, ana. good morning, good to be with you. i'm glad you mentioned that boy being rescued a second ago as i look around in these neighborhoods, this one is flamingo park. you see parents walking around with their kids in their arms or shoulders. in one case, a child in a

shopping cart trying to navigate the flood waters so it's heartbreaking. it's heartbreaking in the sense that for so many people this is not just going to be a one or two-day event. you see the amount of water all the way up to their trailer homes or modular homes in this case or inside of those homes. this is going to be a life changing event they're trying to digest that right now. they're wondering where the help is some neighborhoods officials have been able to penetrate and vacuum out some of that water. top graphically that's a difficult climb so to speak. there's so much water that's pooled on top of this area that's built at ground level there's nowhere for the water to go it's pooled up and all these families are looking at thousands upon thousands dollars of damage. you'll see in a second a parent with his young child a lot of it comes into their doorway. this is the reality that so many folks are waking up to right now. a day and a half after the main event, which as you said was record breaking. you're talking about 26 inches in a seven-hour time frame for context, april typically in fort lauderdale, you're looking

at about 3 inches of rain. 25 years ago there was 20 inches of rain, and now you're saying 26 inches in seven hours this is the aftermath of, that the governor here ron desantis has declared a state of emergency. there are emergencies that have been declared for the city and county too so it's multipronged. critical access right now to infrastructure one positive update i can give you is the fact that the airport is up and running again. that was as of 9:00 eastern standard right now there's about 230, 240 flights that have already been canceled they do run about 600 plus per day. a third of all the flights aren't even going today. this is a humanitarian issue that they're struggling with right now. 900 calls for rescue as much as you see people struggling here right now, you see a gentleman going through his car to my side there have not been reported fatalities or serious injuries despite the fact this has been a life changing event for so many people here, ana. >> a 1 in 1,000 year flood event, sam brock, thank you for

that looks like a long road to recovery for the folks there. now to indiana where that toxic warehouse fire is finally out. residents are getting more worried about the long-term health effects there the mayor of richmond says their focus now will be on collecting air and water samples to determine when it's safe, if it's safe for residents to return epa officials say debris covered a mile and a half from that giant fire, and it contained asbestos nbc's jesse kirsch is live from richmond, indiana, now, and jesse, how are the conditions there right now, and what are you hearing from residents >> reporter: yeah, so ana, the fire is fully extinguished the mayor says he's ahead of schedule we are actually further back today than we were yesterday from ground zero because this morning when our team was approaching the site, members of our team smelled, tasted, saw what they believed to be debris from this site, and it is not something that is really a shock. we were told by officials that

even for days after the fire was put out, we could be seeing smoke and soot and the smell of burning plastic continuing to permeate throughout this community. that just underscores the fluidity of this situation when you have a shift in the wind, the way this debris is moving can completely change we're still dealing with an evacuation order in effect for people within a half mile radius we are outside of that evacuation zone. however, there is still also a shelter in place advisory for people in this community, and the schools in this community are, again, closed today so this is an ongoing issue, however, because we're now looking at an extinguished fire, the city says it can focus on the air and water testing, which will help officials determine when people can return to their homes within that evacuation zone but as you just alluded to, this is a concern for people right at ground zero and well beyond that for miles around it in this community. here's what we've heard from some in this community over the last couple of days.

>> we're about six miles away from it, so it was kind of unusual to see the ash coming from afar like that. i've never seen it in my lifetime i have a breathing problem, so i'm experiencing some of that. my voice is real hoarse now, i have a burning throat, burning nose, coughing i don't know, you know, how much i was exposed to it. >> reporter: those are some of the questions that people have in richmond and the outlying areas. the officials that have been speaking at press conferences say that we may be getting more data today, which could help paint a better picture of what kind of health risks, if any, there are in this community. that's something we're going to be watching for. we're also trying to get more clarity on who may have been responsible for this facility leading up to the fire the city's mayor points the finger at a business that had occupied this facility for years

saying it had been ordered to do a cleanup, but it's not clear if that business was operating here at the time of the fire earlier this week, and records also show that the city itself took ownership of part of that space last year. so some have suggested that the city should have been responsible for cleanup. but either way, it appears that there was a lot of plastic there that ignited and let this blaze continue to fester we're told that across a roughly 14-acre facility, there were six buildings packed floor to ceiling with plastic, and all of that has now apparently been reduced to smolderi and rubble. >> that is scary jesse kirsch, thanks for that update. up next, propublica's latest reporting about supreme court justice clarence thomas and his billionaire friends. one of the reporters on the by line will be joining us with what more they've uncovered. former president trump and his former vice president are both in the same place today,

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we're back now with new details on the charges against the suspected intel leaker, just got the criminal complaint here, and we're learning that he is charged with unauthorized retention and transmission of national defense information and unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material. and back with us is former u.s. attorney barbara mcquade, so those are the two charges stated on these documents, barbara. wha what do these charges mean >> they're both very serious charges. the first one, the espionage act charge is the most serious it brings with it a ten-year penalty. it makes it a crime for someone to willfully remove or transmit national defense information the other one is a five-year penalty. that is the one that makes it a crime to remove classified

information. by charging both of these, it strikes me as a wise choice because strategically it will cover everything that he may have possessed and then shared some things are classified but don't relate to the national defense. some things are national defense but are not classified by charging both of these, they will cover the universe of everything that he might have shared these are steep penalties, up to 15 years in prison for this. of course a judge doesn't have to sentence someone that high if there are mitigating factors, but no doubt this is a serious crime. >> so we're talking about potentially hundreds of documents, right, and other records that were shared online that we know of at least so there's a significant amount of evidence we know prosecutors have right now, how difficult do you think it will be to prosecute this case? >> well, it will depend on the facts, but i think that there are a couple of things they'll need to show one is that he's the person who did it it seems that based on what we've seen in reporting that evidence is going to be strong there will be an electronic paper trail from his computer

and his access that can probably show that he accessed the documents at the same time that they were compromised. there were also photographs showing screen shots that match up with his parents' home where he lived, and so i think proving that he's the one who did it sounds like it will be fairly strong the other is that the person willfully disclosed these things again, you'd have to show that he was indeed the one going by o.g. online and it wasn't some other person, but that seems like a link that will be provable and that his disclosure was willful, that he knew it was illegal to do it based on the kinds of training and policies and warnings that all people with classified backgrounds get. i imagine it will be difficult for him to somehow say he had no idea he wasn't supposed to share these things my guess is it will be a strong case, the evidence will matter. >> barbara mcquade, thanks so much for coming back with us really appreciate it. and now we turn to new bombshell reporting on supreme court justice clarence thomas is

a gop billionaire. propublica is out with a brand new report on a business deal showing republican mega donor harlan crow purchased three georgia properties in 2014 that belonged to justice thomas and his family this is according to state tax documents and a deed reviewed by propublica msnbc has not independently reviewed those documents the transaction was reportedly worth more than $100,000, and according to propublica thomas never disclosed this sale which four ethics law experts say appears to have violated a federal disclosure law joining us now, i want to bring in the reporter. before i do that, though, i do think it's important we let you know we have reached out to justice thomas for comment we haven't heard back, but i do know we have a statement here to nbc news, crow saying that he purchased thomas's mother's home to preserve it for posterity and to eventually open up a museum

about the justice. okay, let's bring in one of the reporters now behind this new reporting. joshua kaplan of propublica. you write that this transaction of crow buying the property from thomas is, quote, the first known instance of money flowing from crow to the supreme court justice. can you just explain why this is so significant >> yes, so this -- there's a federal law passed after watergate that requires most high level government officials including supreme court justices to provide detailed pictures of their finances to the public and, you know, this law, this is a landmark government ethics law that is meant to help the public identify conflicts of interest, to ensure that officials are not using their public office for private gain, and the law explicitly deals with real estate transactions and requires supreme court justices to report

most real estate deals for more than a thousand dollars. so ethics law experts told us that thomas appears to have clearly violated the law here. for context, last week we reported that for decades, thomas has accepted numerous luxury trips from this texas billionaire harlan crow all in secret, including private jet flights, international super yacht cruises, and justice thomas and crow both responded to that reporting by saying that they're simply close friends and this, i think, casts the relationship in a new light. this is the first known direct financial transaction between justice thomas presiand the billionaire. >> could thomas face any real consequences here? or are supreme court justices insulated from allegations >> the law explicitly covers

them, and there is a -- the law allows the judicial conference to refer violations of the disclosure statute to the attorney general for investigation and possible civil and criminal penalties senator whitehouse from rhode island has urged in response to our latest reporting the judicial conference to make that referral to the attorney general. realistically, i don't know whether that will happen at this stage there's extremely little precedent for supreme court justices facing, frankly, oversight from anyone or consequences for violations. the last time that something really anl dalogous to this happened was 1969 when justice abe fortis had -- he had a $20,000 retainer from a wealthy friend and was ultimately forced to resign after threats of

prosecution from nixon's attorney general >> it's quite the reporting that you and your team have been doing. thank you very much for sharing it with us josh kaplan, it's good to have you here. >> thanks so much for having me. up next, former president trump and other 2024 hopefuls are heading to the nra's convention today with a string of mass shootings intensifying our national gun va violence debate, what message does it send you're watching "ana cabrera reports. stay right there (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend of the day with a new line tomorrow. with a verizon private 5g network, you can get more agility and security. giving you more control of your business. we call this enterprise intelligence. from the network america relies on. (man) what if my type 2 diabetes takes over? (woman) what if all i do isn't enough? or what if i can do diabetes differently?

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as this country reels from one horrific mass shooting after another all across the country, several 2024 gop hopefuls are flocking to the nra convention today in indianapolis, including both former president donald trump and former vice president mike pence, but is the nra's hold on the republican party as strong as it once was? nbc's vaughn hillyard is with us from indianapolis and also with us, brendan buck, a former senior adviser to speakers john boehner and paul ryan and he is now an msnbc political analyst vaughn, let's start there on the ground at this convention. what are people hoping to hear from these candidates, and is there a favorite at this point among the nramembers at that convention >> reporter: hey, good morning, ana, we're just a few hours away from when the likes of donald trump, asa hutchinson, chris sununu are going to be here in downtown indianapolis. we are in the expo room of the

nra convention in downtown indianapolis this is 14 acres of supplies and guns here. you've got the main gun manufacturers here, smith and wesson, henry, daniel defense, and this is a room here where you're talking about tens of thousands of folks over the course of the day who are going to be coming in here, and you know, when we're talking to folks, of course donald trump is front of mind, but folks are not naive to the fact that there are other republicans who are going to be jumping in this race and others who are in this race. ron desantis, nikki haley, tim scott, they'll be joining virtually, not here in person, but asa hutchinson, the former arkansas governor who is an announced candidate will be here again along with new hampshire governor chris sununu. we're expecting them between 3:00 and afternoon in downtown indianapolis, ana. >> and brendan, do you think the mentality of republicans toward the nra has changed at all given how common mass shootings has become >> there's no real evidence of that at all.

i've long said that the nra's control over the party has been a bit overstated the reality is that republican elected officials are strongly pro gun rights because that's what republican voters are the nra is as weak as it's ever been it's declared for bankruptcy it's leaders have had a number of scandals. but the support for strong gun rights among republicans has not dropped at all in fact i think that that movement is as strong as ever. you really do not pay a price in a republican primary for being too far to the right on guns any time folks have actually tried to take action on gun control, you've seen swift blowback there was a congressman from upstate new york who after uvalde and after buffalo came out for an assault weapons ban within a week he had to drop out from running for re-election because that's what the nra is

like with voters there i don't see anything changing any time soon. >> you talked a lot about the gun reform debate this week in light of back-to-back shootings. the other big issue we've been discussing is abortion rights. we mentioned that strict law the governor signed in florida banning abortion after just six weeks of pregnancy this law isn't even popular with republicans in his state do you see this decision hurting him in his 2024 race, brendan? >> very potentially. look, this is the problem that republicans have on a lot of issues, whether it's on guns, and i think abortion probably more than any. he has made a lot of promises to a lot of people in the party for a long time, particularly on abortion now while being expected to deliver on them, that are wildly out of step with the average general election voter there's really no mechanism for pushback you cannot be too far to the right on the issue of abortion to win a republican primary.

obviously ron desantis is doing what he thinks he needs to do to take down donald trump the legislative session in florida will be about positioning him that way this will be significant blowback in the general election republicans are very trapped right now. republican voters demanding they go far to the right on abortion where it turns off so many people in the middle and makes ron desantis and really the whole party vulnerable. >> brendan buck and vaughn hillyard, thanks, guys appreciate it. happy friday. up next, prices rising more than grocery prices for the first time you're watching ana cabrera reports. for softness and resilience, without the price tag. if you know... you know it's pantene.

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despite the sky-high costs for airfare. the post-pandemic demand just isn't letting up numbers from the tsa underscore that with daily screenings already well above where they were this time last year now, the faa is warning anyone who plans to fly this summer to expect delays. let's bring in the host of "full disclosure." robin good to have you here. another record travel season. >> happy first week, huh >> it feels good to get to friday let's listen to delta ceo ed bastion and what he expects for summer travel. >> do you see consumer spending slowing down and caution creeping into the consumer >> not maybe in a couple of demographics but nothing at the top level. maybe it's stabilizing rather than continuing to accelerate, but we're in the experience economy. people want to get their experiences back

>> how about supply and demand, right? and airline tickets are still going up there's still inflation there. what do you make of that given all the warnings we've been hearing about the economy and a looming potential recession? >> i think it's a confluence of still excess cash and excess fomo money in this economy after so many years of lockdowns and throttled travel and too, the airlines have been so consolidated. they got their wishes. if you look at the various near-death experiences of the -- what happened at the beginning of the pandemic. there's just american airlines continental and united and jetblue is trying to buy spirit. they have so much pricing power. they can literally make you wait until the very last second for the worst seat on the plane. you have to hold your nose and take the final seat by the bathroom if you don't want to pay up front it's kind of like hold-up money

and that's a function of capacity and very deep demand in this economy people are raring to get out and see the world. >> fridays are eat dinner out night at my house. i love to go out to eat. we just got this report from the labor department this week showing restaurant prices have outpaced grocery prices for the first time since inflation began rising in mid-2021 or so why do you think this is we only have 30 seconds. >> they know how much more an omlette costs to make last year and it's brutally difficult to get people to show up and work tables or the kitchen or short order cooks even for $15 an hour those menu costs, how much can you pass them down and tipflation at the tip counter. so it's brutally difficult to run a restaurant in this day and age. >> thanks for helping us make some sense of it and ending the show on a high note. thank you all fo