not just because, but future generations. >> doctor blumenschein back to md anderson, treating patients and researching cures for lung cancer in prison, dr. ana maria gonzalez-angulo began helpin conservations in a support group. she surrendered her medica license after the trial. >> she took an oath to not hur anyone, to do no harm. and the hippocratic oath i actually says you shellfis minister poison. she violated that in the worst possible way she spun a web of lies, deceit and manipulation in this case now she's payin for it >> that is all for this editio of dateline. i'm craig melvin thanks for watching. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> hello and welcome to mornin joe weekend, i am willie geist it was another busy week wit

manhattan d.a. alvin bragg taking legal action agains republican jim jordan, and president biden's latest comments on his plans for 2024 let's take a look at some of the week's top stories the manhattan district attorne leading the prosecution of donald trump is now suing a to house republican alvin bragg filed the lawsui against judiciary committe chairman jim jordan yesterda in response to what bragg call a brazen and unconstitutiona attack by members of congres on an ongoing criminal prosecution. bragg has come under increased scrutiny to put it mildly by the ohio republican since it became lightly that the former president would be charged i new york city. calling on the game solved t testify before congress, jorda issued a subpoena last week, ordering a former prosecutor i the case to appear before th judiciary committee. in the new lawsuit, the de asked a court to block tha subpoena, arguing that it coul cause irreparable harm to th case if certain secret materia is disclosed bragg ès attorneys also argue

the subpoena i unconstitutional because congress has no power to conduct oversight of the state constitution a federal judge has scheduled hearing on the lawsuit later i the week joining us now senior politica affairs for politico, josh christine. josh, good morning, talk littl bit more about what prompted this lawsuit from alvin brag and what that specific complaint is and where it goes from here. >> well willie, the lawsuit' aimed at the subpoena to mar pomerantz who is actually not current prosecutor for alvin bragg but had a falling ou with bragg about a year ag when alvin bragg, who ha recently come into office, signal that he was not going t bring a broad tax and insuranc fraud kind of case against trump in criminal court. that led pomerantz and one o his aides to resign, but since then, there's been a effort by jordan and other house republicans to try to us pomerantz is kind of a vehicle

to get inside brags office and bragg's thinking not only on that criminal case that was not brought, but th one that was just brought in the last couple of weeks dealing with their issue relaying to trump in those payments to stormy daniels i another woman. and so republicans hope that mark prominence is the way int this investigation and hop they take a -- knock down here in washington, d.c. and see if he can halt th subpoena but i don't - i think is going to be a uphill battle for bragg. >> josh, it looks like republicans are going to loo back and say that paul morantz has also written a book. like how can you stop him from testifying when people o already read what he has t say. >> right, that's the trickiest part of that, given that h wrote the book, it's hard fo him to take the position that can't say one word to you no

and i need to zip it because o this current prosecution tha is going on, and the other thing going on is this turning of the tables, like when trump was an office, you had all o these democratic led investigations out of congress trying to get various document like his tax returns, and th trump would say that those aren't legitimat investigations, this is on the congress is doing that i purely political and now we have bragg trying t adopt those arguments and sa the congress has no legitimate business looking into investigation being conducte by a manhattan distric attorney >> hey josh, quick question fo you here so if this is an uphill battle why bring the suit at all? secondarily, does this impac the timeline for bragg's own investigation you have to deal with the sideshow first before you can get back to th original matter which is looking into trump's conduct >> well, he's tried sam to

bring in outside counsel his outside lawyers, and actually a lawyer out of los angeles, ted boutrous who' handling this litigation, an an aggressive step that he i made here. i don't think it will really derail the prosecution at the moment, the balls kin of in trump's court, the way the judge of their new york se a very long deadline going through august, calendar t hear motion through the end of the year, hence i don't thin bragg is under a lot o pressure up there to push this investigation forward. he is sort of waiting for trum to we turn this volley and so don't see it railing the investigation and i think that the concern is that if they di get him on the witness stand o in a deposition, that we might see a lot more of the inside baseball within bragg's office spell out publicly, and i don' think that he is eager to se that happen it would certainly be a distraction to th indictment in the case that he brought last week. >> what a example of

republicans pop -- hypocrisy. certainly republicans used t say, whenever possible, we tak a power man in authority t states, local governments, t the people what power is not specifically in the federal government, the constitutional reserve in th state of the people, right here you have a republican party that uses, first of al if you look at rhonda stances, uses his power to go after baseball teams, to go afte mickey mouse, to go afte cruise lines, to tell smal businesses what they can and can't do the after school librarians, t go after teachers, to go after local school districts, and it is the opposite. it is cz local power consolidated and state government here, you have these guys wh are no probably went aroun when the first time campaignin saying, let's get the power ou of washington and get down t the people

and yet here you have a ma elected by the people of manhattan, and big brother doesn't like it. and so they are going to com from washington d.c. to a loca delay and try to interfere i his investigation. it is just, again, mor republican hypocrisy >> and it goes to the rock inside the party writ large, and sam put his finger on that point. in talking about how thi infection of trumpism, manga -ism has coursed through the veins of the party at al levels so the idea of federalism, independent state action independent power of the state to govern their affairs on behalf of the people in thos states, only applies if it doesn't touch on a particula interest of ours, and th

particular interest of ours is none other than who? donald trump because you would not have thi level of interference, but for donald trump if it's anyone else, they're gonna be hard-pressed to mak the case for why they are doin and saying things with respect to this prosecution. and so, again it is a furthe example at all levels, all factions of our society are no immune to this infection it is our judicial system, i is our political syste obviously, our economic system and certainly our internationa relationships. everything has been touched by this in the idea is culminated in that interview last night with donald trump praisin individuals who, in their ow regimes, in their own countries, have infected their systems in the same manner to the point where they have absolutely total control. there is no questioning of tha

authority. you know, jim jordan perceives himself to be something that h is not he is a very small man and eve smaller pool relative to donal trump, but he's going to use the authority that he has that gavel in his hand to do hi bidding. to do what is necessary to mak sure that he stays in good favor with someone like donald trump. that is the broth. reflected in pictures like this who in any other circumstances would not have the power tha he has or be in the position that he is, in the same is tru of marjorie taylor greene, mat gates, go down the list, but the infection, the cream doe not rise here. this is sour milk, baby, and the reality for the party is going into a pivotal 202 election cycle, it is curdle milk what are going to do with it you're gonna put a bow on th

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the police response to the mas shooting at a bank and move al on a monday. authorities have released ne body camera video that shows officers rushing toward th gunman nbc news correspondent morga chesky has the latest. >> intense new police body cam video captures to move officer rushing towards the gunman hidden side old national bank. one bullet grazing officer cor galloway, who scrambled to tak cover and returned fire afte his rookie partner, nicholas wealth, was shot in the head [sound of gunfire] >> i think he's down >> authorities say the suspect

25-year-old connor sturgeon wa an ambush position, shooting from behind the lab is reflective glass, until office galloway fired the fatal shot. >> suspect down, get the officer! >> these new images show the shooter inside of the bank armed with an ar-15, investigators say that h purchased legally less than week earlier from a loui vuitton store. officials say sturgeon waite for police, shooting i bystanders before striking officer wilts, who remains i critical but stable condition. >> this young man went bac into the line of fire in order to protect others. >> in a statement to nbc new overnight, the shooter's famil writing in part, their son had a mental health challenges which we, as a family, we're actively addressing. there are never any warnin signs or indications he wa capable of this shocking act doctor jason smith, who treate the victims, getting emotional in pleading for action >> to everyone who helps mak policy, both at the state, city,

federal level, i would simpl ask you to do something, because doing nothing, which i what we have been doing, is no working. >> we're also learning mor about the five lives lot james tut had just celebrate his 54th birthday. those who knew him called him fine units with a heart of gold. 63-year-old thomas elliot, a beloved mentor to many friends 40-year-old joshua barrack, husband and father of two, was an active church member. >> the last thing he said to me, i will do whatever you need to do >> 45-year-old julianna farmer had moved a little to be close to her daughter an grandchildren. >> - i can't hear her voice anymore i can't tell or how much i lov her. >> nbc's morgan chesky reporting from the oval. during a press conferenc yesterday, the mayor o louisville, craig greenberg, made impassioned plea for th state and federal government t do something, anything when it

comes to preventing gu violence >> in a short term action to loot and this gun violence epidemic now, so that fewe people die on our streets an in our banks, and in our schools, and in our churches and for that, we need help we need help from our friend in frankfurt, and help from ou friends in washington d.c. this is not about partisan politics, this is about life i death. this is about preventing tragedies. you may think this will neve happen to you, never happen to any of your friends, or love ones i used to think that the sad truth is that now, n one in our city, known in ou state, no one in our country has that luxury anymore.

last year, i survived workplace shooting, and no yesterday, i have lost a ver close friend in anothe workplace shooting five more families have lost a loved one. it has happened in louisville, it could happen in paducah, in pikeville, in covington. this is happening in america everywhere, and we'll keep happening until we say enoug and take meaningful action >> and maher greenberg joins u now live this morning. they have it right that in the state of kentucky, by state law, even if you wanted to impose new restrictions or tighten up gun laws in some way, or put i a red flag law, as a mayor, yo just couldn't do, it because the state law says municipalities can't make thei own gun laws >> that's correct, and not onl that, but it is also more craz

than that. i as the mayor would b committing a crime if i seek t create order for us in a typ of regulation to reduce th amount of gun violence in ou city that is absurd, that i dangerous, and that is why i a asking my friends in the state legislature to give us local autonomy to make our own decisions about how we can reduce gun violence in our cit of louisville. >> we understand the conversation in kentucky about guns, or in tennessee, tha we've been having for the last couple of weeks, and it's much different than it might be u in new york, massachusetts, or something like that, but wha in your mind is reasonable wit this shock and the tragedy o this ongoing deluge of incidents, but what is reasonable to expect in th state of kentucky? what could change in your mind >> i think there are several things in addition to giving us local autonomy, we can look at som

red flag laws as we mentione earlier. the shooter, as we mentioned yesterday, we release that h bought the gun just recently i the situation in my workplac shooting over a year ago in ou campaign office, where government entered our offic and fired six shots at me from close range, he had bought tha gun only a hour before h entered our office, and so maybe there's some room there. the other crazy kentucky law i that right now, that assault rifle that was used to kil five people yesterday, and use to fire on police officers who were coming heroically to th rescue will one day be turne over to the state and then auctioned off and could end up back on the street and used to commit another crime that is nuts i want to have the authority i louisville where we can destro illegal guns, where we can destroy confiscated guns, so the guns that are used t commit a crime i never used to commit another crime again >> and i understand that tha

is the law, that they turned over weapon used a lot o people inside of a bank an auction it off so that no ar-1 will go to waste, that you try to at least put stickers o them and say, this is what happened with this gun, here's a warning about this gun, pull out the pen, so they would hav to repair it at least to use i again. what is the rationale behind that law what is the justification fo that >> i have no clue. we are doing what we can we are removing the firing pen now before returning them over to the state, that's the farthest that we can go. the money that is used from th perseids of these auctions i used for good cause. it is used for equipment for police departments across th state. that is certainly a importan cause, that's a cause that i support. that is not a lot of money we can assure from a local level and state level that police departments have th resources that they need t keep a safe and to protect every officer. i am firmly committed to tha

goal we do not need to be auctionin off illegal guns and confiscated guns and putting them back on the street to kee our officers safe. we have funds to do that through other means. >> you live with the rippl effects of what happened i your city. you know these people. could you speak to those rippl effects, you saw a picture of couple of the victims, a young woman who just moved back to louisville, and we saw a fathe who was now dead with two smal children, and his wife, we saw that picture the ripple effect of those people, those survivors wh will never ever get over wha happened yesterday >> the impact from gun violenc is enormous. it impacts the families an loved ones, as we were talking about, it impacts our entire community. and whether it is a mass shooting that happened earlier this week in the oval, o whether it is an individua targeted shooting that happens on another street corner somewhere else in our city o in the city, the impacts of gu

violence are becoming far to unbearable for cities like louisville in other cities across the country, and that i why we need to do something. i am hopeful, i woke up this morning optimistic after our comments yesterday the outreach that i received from others around the community, from lawmakers on our city council, in our state legislature, that reach out an said, can we talk. let's have a conversation. this is time to have a conversation and so i am waking up this morning cautiously optimisti that we can work together an even when the news media moves on, that we in louisville, w in kentucky will be workin together we will put politics aside t begin to implement steps t reduce the amount of gun violence in our city, in our state, and ultimately ou country. >> coming up, president bide says he plans to run again i 2024, but he is still not read

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what jim psaki has to say abou this in just a moment, knowing the president very well, but i think the sense is there's not going to be a primary ru against him. that he has the time that he needs, but to your point, ther are fundraising questions, things that will be kicked int gear with his formal announcement but the sense i get from talking to people around him i that he is not in a terrible rush, it maybe this summer >> okay. >> >> so let's bring in ji psaki, she's of course forme white house press secretary an also host of the most popula show in all of television. >> it really is, it' incredible, what a launch. >> it's absolutely incredible. so jim, what do you say to democrats who are nervousl waiting for the president to announce >> i would say he is clearly running. he has never said anything otherwise, but the reason, i addition to what willie said about why he hasn't announce yet, there is not a clea primary that he's competin against that is different from where things looks last august or even september. in addition, the benefit o

being the incumbent presiden is having all of the pomp an circumstance around you, but plane, the music, and also being able to project to the public we are competent here, we ar meeting with foreign leaders we are getting things done for your communities that is what he is trying to project right now, because the entire message the white house in the political adviser around him are talking about running against trump or whomever may be the nominee, i confidence versus chaos. right now, competence is him being president, that is wha they are projecting, and chaos is happening i think we can all agree o that on the other side in the last piece, and willi sort of touched on this to once you announce, it triggers things like how you ar spending political money, ho political travel is paid for hiring a campaign in paying fo them, yes, it means you ca fund-raise, but a incumben president will be able t fund-raise and so i think they are waitin as long as they can at thi point for good reason, as i se

the race play out. >> i think, the most interesting thing really right now as far as announcements ha to do with one desantis. is he or isn't he? he's been raising money, he' been acting like he's going to run, but still, hasn't made in the announcements. so you have republicans, wit joe biden, i understand th waiting part, but with ron desantis, there's been nothing but doubt in more doubt sort o worked up, and then this voi that he has created on the republican side. >> yeah, if you look at this travel a few weeks ago, goin to all of the early primar states, rolling out this boo on this book tour, all of th signs that yes, for sure, he was going to jump into the race, but it has been interesting to see his margin since he starte flirting with it, and says donald trump turned hi attention almost exclusively t ron desantis his margins have gotten much worse against donald trump and we've seen the last couple of weeks with the indictment

and arraignment of the forme president that his support i the republican party only grow and strengthen with the part rallying around donald trump in fact, donald trump go rhonda scientist to come out i support of donald trump in thi case in lower manhattan anyway so if he is running, you bette make up his mind, what is goin to do it number one, and how he's going to do it, because h has been very reluctant to g after donald trump >> 100%. >> yeah, but of course for our friends who are just waking up on the west coast right now, earlier this morning, at six a.m. on the east coast, we talked about the latest ab news poll that actually showed donald trump's rating is a 25%. >> pretty low, getting lower >> yeah, a 25%, it's gone down from 29, this capability ratin from 29% to 25%, a four poin drop, in a six point increas and that's it is unfavorable

numbers, but as really said, and we've seven quite some time, it's really a tale of tw voting groups that, amon republicans, donald trump ma be getting more popular, but among americans, especiall independents, he gets less popular by the day that is a real crisis for th republican party that they are going to have to resolve i they want to ever win election again >> with donald trump's legal problems mounting, some to republican senators say th former president should avoi getting involved in the 2024 senate primaries the hill spoke with several go lawmakers and strategist who are hoping to avoid a repeat o last year's disappointin midterm elections. gop whip john thune, the numbe two senate republican, said it would be better if trump stays out of the way, adding quote sure seems like that would b helpful based on our lack of success in 2022. even senator lindsey graha said quote, if i were him, i focus on his own election, but

i doubt if he will take that advice >> you know jim, how crazy tha you have a guy who is presumptive error for th republican party nomination, and you have leaving senator saying stay out of politics, you are not good at it you cost us the senate in 2022 and in 2020. >> right, and i think that 202 midterms were a huge wake up call for a lot of republican who may have been saying thing critical of trump behind the scenes and thinking still, h has a hold on the base, an needed to campaign with me, want to fund-raise, and now, the candidates he picked, hi message, we are losers in the midterm elections and that is a real wake up cal for candidates who are tryin to take on some of the vulnerable democrats of whic there are many in the 2024 senate field and candidates who are tryin to hold on to their seat it is about their survival, an suddenly, it becomes real when you have a guy the approval rating in the

twenties is so low, i think it is just worth restating that and disapproval, that mean almost two thirds of the public, disapprove of trump. could things change? could he come back sure he has nine lives in many ways or eight lives, or something like that, but 100 percent o the public knows who he is he has name i.d. through the roof so if people are moving in tha direction, that is bad for him and it makes sense tha republican senate candidates and leaders are saying, wait a second, this guy is not goin to help us take the senate which they clearly want to do. >> coming up, tiffany dover is a prominent name along the anti-vaxxer community. but she never wanted to be a part of their conspiracy theories now, she is sharing her stor with nbc's brandi draws knee that's straight ahead on morning joe.

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>> all right, so in december o 2020, tennessee nerve tissue dub or volunteer to receive he covid vaccine on live tv she was going to talk to reporters afterwards to tell them how the vaccine represent help for her after a year of being on the front lines of th pandemic however, as she began to tal to reporters, she collapsed. >> i'm sorry, i'm feelin really dizzy

i'm sorry. >> want to sit down? >> wow >> shortly afterwards, dover explain that she has a condition that causes her to faint. take a listen. >> i have a history of having overactive vehicle response an so with that, if i have pain from anything, a hangnail, o my toe, i can just pass out. i feel fine now, in the pain i my arm is very minimal actually i have passed out probably six times in the past six weeks, you know, it is common for me. >> you don't regret taking the vaccine? >> no, no. like i said, a hangnail ca cause me to have this. it is for me, yes.

>> despite that explanation, dover's experience became lightning rod for anti vaccine conspiracy theories, wit several groups claiming sh died from the vaccine. dover's life suddenly became bombarded with peopl constantly calling her work, commenting on her social media and even showing up on her front lawn after two years of silence tiffany dover exclusively spok to nbc news with a message t those spreading lies about her >> for years now, there ha been this very active communit sort of telling your story telling stories about you. what is your message to that community now? >> my message is simple. it is that i am alive, i a alive, i am well, that is it i hope they believe it >> joining us now, nbc new senior reporter covering disinformation and extremism

brandi - brandy zadrozny. brandy has been reporting on tiffany delivered for two year and finally got a chance t talk to her on a podcast entitled truthers. tiffany dover is dead. the podcast explores how dover's experience became weapon in the global information war. brandy, first of all, you ca see how that is impacted tiffany dover, even just i that small soundbite, answerin your question. >> yeah, 100%. this is a nurse in a tow called higden, alabama she works in chattanooga until she recently quit her job, but it affected everything it affected her teenag daughter and son, who were bombarded with these messages. her family was getting death threats constantly where you hiding tiffany how could you do this to tiffany? it never stopped people showin up with gopros at her door claiming that they were goin to fix our, that maybe she was just injured it was terrifying, and not onl that, but this was a

award-winning nerve in a covid unit during the surges where she was just seeing death afte death after death. so with this on top of that, i really did affected her life s astronomically >> brandy, any of the groups o the people that were pushing that she was in fact dead, did you find out what was thei incentive? why were they doing this was there some kind of fundraising involved, was that the anti vax movement, what wa motivating this absolute hoax. >> tiffany's story, it was sor of special one, it was the first. we think of it as the canary o the coal mine for all of the nonsense out there right now but it was so electric because people were drawn to tiffany i mean you saw her, you saw th video of her fainting, it wa visceral, right, elicited reaction, it's a lot of people left onto it you do have the grifters right who are selling supplements an have their podcast, and she wa on info wars, alex jones's sho

the day after she fainted. there are people with a real financial incentive to pus this, but i would say th majority of people who are following this really people who saw that video and did not see anything else, and we ar just concerned we just didn't know. it's so that is wher misinformation thrives in that sort of information vacuum whe people want answers, and because of the hospitals response, which was to d basically nothing, that just grew and grew. >> nbc senior reporter brand zadrozny, thank you so much, great work, and you can listen to brandy's full conversatio with tiffany dover on he podcast entitled truthers, tiffany dover is dead. and on any platform where yo get your podcasts. >> coming up, joe's ne interview with filmmakin legend martin scorsese this endeavor just ahead o morning joe.

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existence. i was a one hit wonder, twice. who is alive >> we were a bands band, t have the foresight i think i really good. >> you spent a lot of time putting on a show. while you are keeping hidden other aspects of your life >> especially the picture of yourself >> it took us so long to gro up >> it is a rush. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> my shows out of the ordinary >> vegetarian, straight, gay whatever, i want to bring thos walls down and have a party. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> in his latest documentary titled personality crisis, one night only, oscar winnin director martin scorsese turns his lens to the iconic david johansson. the lead singer songwriter o the legendary new york dolls and buster poindexter.

this one-of-a-kind film is a celebration of his incredibl music career in this influence on the downtown new york scene scorsese perfectly capture johansson's unforgettable 2020 performance of café carlisle, where he brings his unique blend of swing, blues, and roc to the uptown audience and martin's courses individually incident joins us now, a great honor to have bot of you here, thank you so much >> thank you >> so let's start by jus talking about, martin, how timing is everything january 2020, a couple o months later, like the world blew up. my god, how fortunate to get i in when you did. tell us about how this project came together. >> i have been aware of, mor than aware, a great fan of the dolls back in 72 73, and throughout the years, followin

the transformation, so to speak, of different personas, david into buster poindexter in so many other things too. we work together on boardwal empire randy poster, our musi supervisor, put us together, and you the lot of stuff o boardwalk. and then ultimately, we even did a sequence of personalit crisis with the people performing as david in the and that was ended by davi tatarsky, who co-directed this film, and it did the film with me and bob dylan, and that sor of thing but i, during that time, i became aware two of the radi show,. i did know it was him curating it, but we just heard this music, and i hear differen combinations of whether it i

americans fall, sicilian folk, south american - maria -- singing [inaudible and all of this sort of thin all mixed together and it became a inspiring kind of foundation of my listenin experience and it affected the films that i made i think the thing is that, w were told that you are at th café carlisle, which normally socially it with cold border you know what i mean >> yeah, i've been playing different years now. >> oh, i didn't realize that >> yeah, i did a couple of two-week runs there, maybe twice a year, and it is a drea because you can sleep there. >> in the hotel. >> yeah. my dream a whole life has been taking an elevator to work [laughter] i used to have this thing, i

wish i could press a button an be in the dressing room, but i is the - that kills you it's not the other accoutrements. >> that's right. >> and the thing was for me, w are going to go and see him at the café carlisle, myself, david tatarsky, and we watch the show, and after it was over, we looked at each other an said we have to shoot this thing. we have to get it on film. we did not know it was going t be a film but we wanted to record it, you know? and ultimately, we folded to gather, ron howard came in, an we pulled together enough fo us to get through two or three nights of shooting at the café carlisle within two months, less than two months, i was flying aroun with irishman, opening irishman, and less than two months, tw weeks later, was the shutdow and we had just captured it in

time >> your songs are just a vibrant today as they were i the early 1970s. do you ever give yourself chance to stop and say, it has been a wild ride, but damage at the core of it, i'm a prett good position -- musician >> i don't go around faking on like this or that are the othe thing, i'm just like me, and when i do think about it, will give you an example, joe, when morrissey got us, the dolls together to do a concert in london at the meltdow festival, i don't know how man years ago it was, early, maybe 15 years ago or something, i was kind of hesitant, becaus like with the dulse, i had over the years, just taken o the journalist kind of, they were trashy, they were flashy,

they were junkies, whatever, and that was about as far as i went with it this is after years, so started listening to the records to prepare for the show, and i was quite surprised ho good they were you know i don't usually sit around listening to my own records at home, you know and so they were very musica and pretty genius lyrics, if i do say so myself, and fun, a lot of fun they were >> yeah, last night i checke out, i had to do something, got back around 12:00, midnigh today said oh my god, i had to get to sleep, so let me chec out the album too much too soon, and i had this big system, and it is a soundproof room. it was one in the morning, and i play the whole album it was, it was fantastic

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the week's top stories the justice department has arrested a 21-year-old air national guardsmen i connection with the leak o highly classified document online the documents, some of which may have been altered, including assessments of the war of ukraine nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell, has details. >> backed up by an armored swa vehicle with guns drawn, the fbi arrested a 21 year old airman first class in th massachusetts national guard working on i.t. and thei intelligence wing, where the government says is the sourc of that major intelligence leak >> the justice departmen arrested jack douglas teixeira in connection with a investigation into alleged unauthorized removal, retention, in transmission of classifie national defense information >> the russian - first posted that teixeira under the moniker og, posted intelligence in a private grou of mostly young men on a

discord, a online chat platfor popular with video gamers. the post spoke with an anonymous member of that cha room populated by gu enthusiasm who frequentl shared racist memes. >> i don't think that there wa a goal or some sort of accomplishment that he was looking for in sharing these documents. of course, there is some fancy government sentiment >> to share ahead enlisted three and a half years ago anonymous group members said that he was naturally there bu not a whistleblower. >> og was not -- to the u.s. government whoever did disagree wit several times such as waco and ruby ridge and thought that th government is overreaching i several aspects. there was no heavy snowden lik conspiracy here like som people might believe >> the least intelligence wa online for months, with photos of classified documents visibl for weeks. >> some of it was in public. >> clearly, the administration was low on the uptake. how is it not discovered, an how is it that an individual like this could have the acces if they did. >> in ireland, president biden downplayed the impact. >> i'm not concerned about the

leaks, but i am concerned that it happened, but there's nothing contemporaneous that i am aware of that is of great consequence. >> according to the new york times, one of the leaks reveal broad infighting inside th kremlin over the scale of thei casualties in ukraine. in the washington post i reporting that the u.s. expect the war to continue into nex year kristen -- asked poland's prime ministe about that >> is that your assessment >> i think so too, because russia has huge in vast natura resources, human resources >> now the pentagon is reviewing who has access to to secret >> we do have stringen guidelines in place fo safeguarding classified in sensitive information. this was a deliberate criminal act of - a violation of those guidelines, and if there are any areas where we need to tighten thing up, we certainly will. >> andrea mitchell reporting there. let's bring in former suprem allied commander of nato, -- james defeatist, he's cheat an

national analyst for nbc news. let's see this morning, to parts of this. so just how damaging some of this information is, president biden downplaying that a island yesterday, and then jus how a 21-year-old eric nationa guardsmen got access to it, wa able to distribute it, and leave it up on a social medi platform, it appears, fo months >> i'm going to go with or number two as the bigger problem. i think that as you look a what will come out of this there will be some significant tactical information that flow across the wires to russia russia will use this to try an drive wedges between the u.s and some of our allies who are named in it. there will be some heightene awareness of the war and s forth, but that basket i think is smaller as a concern then the classification and the tightening up. i think this is a fairly

significant leak really in terms of opening a new can o concerns here, you have a very youn individual who has access, somehow, perhaps through a burned back, perhaps through his duties in the i.t. world but then he is picking it, tearing it out, a photocopying it, and putting it in privat chat rooms that is a tough problem to crack from a counter intelligence perspective and i think a pentagon spokesman is right need to focus on the fact that this is a insider threat all of this sophisticate counter cyber surveillance would not have stopped this. what would stop it is tracking who has that kind of access. it is more of a human personal problem then it is a surveillance problem, willie >> yeah, and the fact that h even had access to it at 2 years old as an internationa

guardsmen is concerning as well so admiral, was there anything in what we have seen publicly, and we want to be carefu because we don't have all that authenticated, some of it ma have been altered, but is ther anything and there tha surprised you, it's no particular surprising to you i'm sure that we are conductin surveillance even on our own allies, but was there anything else in there that raise you eyebrow a bit? >> i think that the number one thing that really stood out at me, and i've been tracking thi perhaps more than the averag person, but the rapidity wit which the ukrainians are using of their air defense systems i've said for a long tim willie that there is really tw wars at play here. the ground war, whethe ukrainians are doing quite wel with our help, and we have a spring offensive coming. there is an air war that hasn' really unfolded yet. putin has not really launche his airports against ukraine i big ways, because he's afrai of getting plane shot down

what we could do to improv this is redouble our efforts not only in how we giv classified clearances to individuals, but in the post clearance phase, we need to be more observant of individuals. that doesn't mean that we want to turn our military into hey, we are spying on each other, but it does mean that if you see something, if you hear something, say something that is the way that you can find these kind of insider threats. >> still ahead on morning joe, the latest of a legal battle over the abortion bill as newly signed bill on the procedure puts the nationa focus on florida we will dig into what that means for governor ron desanti and his potential presidential aspirations, and mor importantly, for the women o his state. you are watching morning joe we will be right back. so it's decided, we'll park even deeper into parking spaces so people think they're open.

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ron desantis signed a six-week abortion ban into law. he did that last night in a move that may underscor just how controversial the bil is, desantis announced the decision with a tweet just after 11 pm, hours after the ban was approved by th republican-controlled stat legislature. just two out of 28 republicans in the florida senate vote against the bill, which does make exceptions for pregnancie involving rape or incest u until 15 weeks those exceptions, however, wil only be allowed if a woman has documentation like a restraining order or a polic report the bill does not change current exemptions for the lif and health of the mother, stil though up to 15 weeks. the new law will only take effect with the states current 15-week ban is upheld. that ban, which desantis signe into law last year, is the

subject of an ongoing lega challenge before florida's conservative-controlled suprem court. so jen palmieri, this is jus another chapter of what we hav seen just in the past couple o weeks, but in the last almos year now since the overturning of roe the wisconsin state legislature, abortion was a central issue that texas decision by a judge out there really putting o hold or banning the abortion pill, and now this in florida. a six-week extreme abortio ban. >> the, and i love tha desantis tweet this after 11:0 at night, as if people aren' going to notice, but we ar called a 15-week ban, becaus that's also what the mississippi law was. in the dobbs case. 15-week ban a year and a hal ago we thought was extreme lindsey graham offer that as the alternative, the moderat alternative as you recall in the midterms, and even thoug

politics is clearly against th republicans on this, like yo see it in wisconsin, we saw it in the midterms every week another example of widesprea politics for them, but he then goes with a six-week ban because you think that's going to be popular in the republica presidential primary and there is the vice, and i mean the politics of this ar clear, but it's also, we nee to remember, the impact, the rulings on the abortion pill the impact that this is having on women, i mean he just ran off the list, if there is case of rape or incest, ho onerous it is for the woman to prove that but when you look at the politics, this, look - the republicans have bee saying, we've seen reports on, this we know we have a problem we know the abortion positions are too extreme. but when you have people lik

desantis, number two in th presidential primary pushing forward with a more extreme ban. >> and joe, if ron desanti does one for president, if h does somehow find his way to the nomination, good luc pivoting to the general afte this a six-week abortion ban, which is something like a 15 position nationally, but let's look at the state of florida and how it is changed even since you were in congress there. what do you make of th six-week ban now in your hom state? >> well it is going to be problem for ron desantis lik you said or any republican tha gets behind this in a genera election we have seen this time and tim again. the republicans know what th politics are for a abortion ba in a general election an republicans apparently don't care it's a florida is one of the states again, we always thin of it as a republican state, and we have always thought o it as a republican state, an then barack obama winds it

i think bill clinton won it on of the two times that he ran and i suspect, again, right no it is breaking red trump obviously won by three o four points there, but i wil tell you, there are a lot of people in florida, as everybod watching the show knows, tha move down from the northeast that moves down from the midwest, that moves down fro places that have a much more moderate view of the issue o abortion and they move forward anyway of course, as you noted, and that's why he signed it at 11:00 at night i suspect if this had come out right after the dobbs decision before republicans understoo the wicked backlash that the are getting politically on these mirror bush and bounds some of these more extreme bills, he may have signed it i the middle of the day, brought legislators around, but instea he signed a love o'clock las night and tweeted out th picture. that is not a man who wants it

to be front and center of th news today, but it is. eugene daniels, i'm sorry, eugene robinson, i'm in different time zone here eugene robinson, you look at wisconsin. here is a state that i was calling, i think we were all calling perhaps the tightest swing state in america just like -- that said, it was florid florida florida in 2000, i became wisconsin wisconsin wisconsin, and yet because o abortion, because of 1849 ba there, an extreme abortion law and wisconsin, one of the most important state supreme cour races in recent years turned into a blowout an 11-point win for progressiv forces, something that nobod saw coming just like the kansa abortion referendum, nobody sa

that landslide coming. and you just wonder wh republicans in states like florida, in states lik michigan, in states like wisconsin, keep moving in thes extreme directions it always causes them to lose. >> it absolutely does. you saw it and wisconsin, an that was a blowout in wisconsi terms. you saw in kansas, you saw the kentucky, in these deep re states, what abortion rights when the basic constitutiona right in these cases, stat constitutional rights, t abortion is on the ballot, voters want, they won it, they want to protect that right and what desantis signed, an by the way, we did notice, w saw ron, as you saw, this is a close to a complete abortion ban as you could reall

conceivably get, except fo that 1849 law in wisconsin i mean, six weeks, that is before we even knew that the are pregnant, there are all of these conditions even on the rape and incest exceptions this is a radical sort o handmaid's tale abortion ban and it's going to be no ston around what desantis's neck. >> coming up, donald trump onc again places vladimir putin, chinese leader xi jinping, and even north korean dictator kim jong-un. we will play for you what he said next. next on behind the series... that performance was legendary. they just piled it on. roast beef, ham, oven roasted turkey. all on the subway club. three peat - that's great. three meat - that's epic. the subway series. the greatest menu of all time.

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president xi is a brillian man. if you went all over hollywood to look for somebody to play the role of president xi, yo couldn't find it there's nobody like that the look the brain. the whole thing. we had a great rionship. we get along so well, that was a great chemistry we had great. we talked about everything a great chemistry. but people ask me, how smart she is, i said top of the line you've never met anybody smarter. how smart is kim jong-un top of the line. people say oh, this in that, really smart you know when you come out and as a young man a 24, 23, eve though he sort of inherits it, most people, when they inherited, they lose it. and that is easy stuff he took over a country of very smart people, and very ver inject people. very tough people at a ver young age, and he has tota dominant control that's not easy.

he's very smart. putin? very smart >> it takes your breath away >> it really does. >> talking about president x like a matinee idol, the look, the brains, all of it. and we have to remember, the case of putin, that we can g through all three of those putin right now for more than year's conducting a war in which he's killing ukrainian children, he's killing civilians, attacking their infrastructure, and so he' also praised vladimir putin, but to do it at this moment in history makes it all the mor extraordinary. >> and president xi has become more dictatorial over the last several years. , there are two, you'v probably read, two people got small group together to protes in a seaside town, and they're going to jail for over a decade. you look at what putin did very smart really, you hav seized a wall street journal reporter, very smart and again, you look at the

people that he praises, an first of all, it is abhorren that he is praising some of th most evil leaders of the world stage, and this is something that he did starting here in 2015, when he came on our show and talked about how great vladimir putin was, and ho horrible barack obama was. and when we said yeah, but h kills journalists, he kill politicians, he said will we kill people to again, there's something reall screwed up and the way he look at the world, and i must say very disturbing for the cold like followers that he still has that will warship a guy wh worships the biggest tyrants o the globe. and on top of that, donald trump is alone in callin vladimir putin very shrewd very smart the guy has wrecked russia's military, he has wrecked russia's economy, and i don' care what all of these article

say about oh, it's not as ba as, no, he has wrecked the economy. he has ruined their trade at least for now with europeans a far as energy goes he had europe energy dependent on him no more. and president xi, one mistak after another over the pas five years, and here is a gu who wants to run for president between rhonda santa this covi lockdowns. he's worshipping president xi, who had the most tyrannica covid lockdowns on the globe and again, this is, is a projection is a confession? i am not sure what, but it i so unbecoming of a forme american president, and it speaks to his last fou authoritarian power. >> you almost wonder whether h is doubling down o predispositions, because w can't bring himself to admit that maybe he was wrong when h was president and hi assessment of thes authoritarian leaders and so

you have to say no no no, still believe it, but you ru through the list of what those people have done, and presiden xi, who has crashed the chines economy during the course of his covid lockdowns, is on the point of doing exercises where he looks like he really migh make a serious attempt o taiwan president putin, who is just managed to expand nato's borde by 800 miles with russia doesn't look like a very goo strategic move, and has lost hundreds of thousands of his own troops in ukraine in a war that just has not won hi anything perhaps the most startling i his assessment of kim jong-u in south korea, where he say that he is totally dominant an that he had inherited this, bu he has a very energetic very smart people well he has people that ar totally oppressed by polic state and risk going into concentration camp in terms of doing anything to try to oppos him. the degree to which trum admires these leaders who ar

dictators, in the case of ki jong-un, certainly a reall aggressive police state, ruthless leader of his own people, it is astonishing to hear him say this, let alone the look, the hollywood look is that really perhaps what is really all about that he likes to look in the feel in the power of these people in wishes he had it himself. >> absolutely, that is alway what it's about. and michael steele, we kno that donald trump getting used to grow his lead in this early early polling in the republica primary. another poll showed his lead over understands was eve bigger than it was before th rain and last week, but we als know that abc ipsos poll shows broadly he has a 25% unfavorability rating in the country, talking about donal trump running for reelection not just a primary, th restaurant in a genera election to become president again. when you hear this, as a republican, even if you're a

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lawmakers who were expelle from the legislature last week now have been re-appointed t their seats. remember they were protestin over gun safety laws and we see news corresponden blaine alexander has the new developments >> the vote happened in less than one minute. >> it passes >> ousted state representative justin pearson is headed bac to his seat in the tennessee state house. the decision was in the hand of the shelby county commission among the seven members wh showed up, a unanimous decisio to reinstate pierson, one of two lawmakers who is unprecedented expulsion ha become a national rally an cry. >> they try to expel the peoples choice and the peoples hope they awakened a sleeping giant >> last week, tennessee'

republican-led house voted t expel pearson and fellow representative justin jones, both democrats, after they broke house rules whil protesting gun laws. >> this is what democracy look like >> surrounded by a crowd o hundreds, both lawmakers gathered at the national civil rights museum before marchin with supporters to fill th commission chamber >> what does it say to you tha so many people are supportin you? >> justice happened in the state of tennessee today >> republicans say the expulsion was fair punishmen for violating house decorum, speaking into bullhorns on the house floor. critics say it sets a dangerou precedent. a group of senate democrats ar calling on the justice department to determine whethe that expulsion violated th constitution or federal civi rights, writing, unless the do steps in, anti democrati actors will only be emboldened >> blaine alexander reportin for us from tennessee. eugene again goals, in les than a week, you have both o the justin's reinstated to

their seats. all three of the people ar back where they started a. i had a democrat say to, maybe republicans who made thi decision might have well a ben elm accredit plans for wha they gave the party, overturning the will of th voters, expelling them for a peaceful protest, and then allowing them, they just com right back they got all this energy for the gun rights movement and th democratic party >> that's exactly right. when you talk to republica political strategist especially here in d.c., the talk about how much of a misstep this was for republicans in tennessee, right? you galvanized these folks who made both of these men nationa figures. they spent days on televisio all across the spectrum talkin about this you get called racist for days and days and days. it was very obvious from the beginning that both of the gentlemen we'll be right bac where they started like yo said it's kind of a political misstep for republicans in tennessee on how they handle

this i think you have not see republicans, nationa republicans saying anythin about this because they want t stay out of it it was not a winning issue it is not a winning issue fo them you also have vice president harris going there as justin pierson said, it awakened a sleeping giant in tennessee. it doesn't mean there is going to be any gun legislation, gun safety legislation that is a red state. you're going to have a lot o these young people continuin to protest [inaudible one woman was not voted out. they're going to continue to fight this fight as we continue i think we have like a month o two left in session. republicans had a misstep here >> let me just add to that, yo know, we wouldn't know who these people who were a couple

of weeks ago if not for th actions of the state republica party. they absolutely elevated these protesters, these lawmakers in ways they never could have imagined, probably grateful fo the elevation, the money the raised, the attention they brought to the cause of gu violence in tennessee. these were amplified by th fact that the state republican party took an extraordinar step to expel them from th chamber. i guess i have a question fo george as the resident republican on the panel here if you still deem yourself one i suppose. is this just kind of indicativ of moderate republican politic in your estimation, this notio of shoot first, aim later, trying to take out you opponent if it backfires, so be, yo just move on to the next thing >> in my defense, i left the republican party five year ago. >> fair enough >> i absolutely agree with all that has been said

it really was a stupid thoughtless reaction t something that angered them. i think it just meant to pitch to the most extreme elements o the republican party - you have to have the quorum in a legislature. you want to have peacefu debate to expel these legislators particularly when they are going to get reinstated, it wa completely counterproductive as was just said, no one would have heard about these peopl but for the fact that they wer expelled they expelled the two blac eyes but not the white woman it really is an amazing degree of stupidity >> the republican governor o tennessee yesterday signed a

executive order aimed at strengthening background checks, nibbling around the edges. that's the republican governor of the state of tennesse saying, we have to do somethin to meghan saver. the people who get them don' have the kind of backers tha might cause them to do harm. coming up next, nbc's tremaine leah brings us a story of tw lawmakers who call themselve the bipartisan band of brothers they say that it goes fa beyond politics. that story is just ahead o morning joe. morning joe.

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session of congress hits its 100 day mark while most sea divisions among lawmakers, three freshma representatives are trying t prove otherwise. pat ryan, wesley hunt, and joh james represent differen states and different parties but they are old friends i graduates of the west poin glass of 2004. nbc news correspondent tremain

lee has their story. >> in 20 years, you think back to the young men that you were how much different are these guys >> they are the exact same >> freshman representatives pa ryan of new york, john james o michigan, and wesley hunt of texas are on different sides o the political aisle. ryan is a democrat james and hunt are republicans the three men say they share a connection which goes fa beyond politics. for four years, they were west point classmates they proudly served the nation in the years that followed >> does it feel like you guy are like family? >> anytime you go through this intense, crazy experience, you form a bond. we all wore the red, white, an blue the goal was to graduate and b the dean >> young cadets when the plane struck the world trade center, the three men say 9/11 pus them towards a lifetime.

>> there was a cloud kind of over us. this was no longer a trainin process. we were going to go to war for our country. >> they say it is those shared experiences which help the recognize the need to reac across the aisle at a time whe many divides run deep. >> we will get a funny loo when i go over to the othe side or jon comes over to ou side people are like, you guys ar actually talking yeah >> we had a -- they put it on the cover o politico we have a bond that transcends all politics >> trust a shot between th political parties into thi country. patrick and i don't always agree. west and i don't alway disagree they would never deliberatel hurt me. >> their hope now is to us their west point bond for good

working to enact legislation which helps veterans >> for me, it's very personal. i brought him home safely from 12 months in combat only t have him take his own life what a failure that is that we could not get that right we are beginning to work on veterans mental health issue and we are going to beginnin to - making sure that the natio does not turn their back >> is it too idealistic? >> if we cannot make that work shame on us, shame on ou democracy. >> are we going to agree o everything absolutely not yes, we have some work to do but i think the three me sitting up here right now ar willing to do the work i want to see this in progress that we have seen in the pas few generations to, three, four, five, six generations from now

>> tremaine ali are boarding there from washington. there's an entire generation o post 9/11 veterans getting int politics there's a long list of brigh young stars. we saw three of them sitting right there. >> those three sitting right there for the first time in long time on this program ar in reality and the real world. it gives you some sense of hope, some sense of optimism for the future of politics three west point graduate, the are now in congress carrying their west point code -- of honor, loyalty, team unity, whether it's a platoon, company commander, whatever, o members of congress of the united states. for the first time in a long time, you feel, at least i do, a bit more optimistic about th future of american politics. >> i feel exactly the same way look, a lot of politicians watch this show. this is a show of record i washington that's what america wants. if you're sitting at home, that's what -- usa today did a poll what is the most important

thing you want in your leaders the number one thing was a ability to compromise and work with the other side. that is the gold standard righ there. how the 430 -- is it for under 30 members >> 435 >> they understand that and ge that that's the gold standard >> i'm excited as to how the post 9/11 generation o veterans and national security professionals who served i iraq, who served in afghanistan, who served around the globe, how they are going to influenc foreign policy going forward you look at the aftermath of those wars and the seismic political uprising within th republican party over th entrenched hawkish foreign policy and how that changed in 2016 with donald trump it's going to be interesting t see how these veterans wit actual experience steer th policy >> in all of, that you are correct. one thing that congressman rya said, he brought someone hom after 12 months of combat only

to lose that veteran to suicide. you bring someone home that's the goal. you bring legislation home bring it home as a unit! they get the i wish more people did >> let's hope someone can be spread around the house of representatives, maybe ove into the senate. who knows? coming up next, it has bee almost three years now since broadway star nick cordero die from covid complications his widow amanda kloots ha been keeping his memory alive. her latest project is children's book inspired by he life with their son. amanda joins us next on mornin joe. starting a new chapter can be the most thrilling thing in the world. there's an abundance of reasons to get started. how far we take an idea is a question of willpower. because progress...

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trying to move on now from the covid pandemic it's much more difficult for people who lost loved ones t the virus. broadway star nick cordero die of covid complications in july 2020, leaving behind his wif amanda kloots and their youn son elvis. nearly four years later, amand is helping to keep her lat husband's memory alive with children's picture book titled tell me your dreams inspired b her own bedtime rituals with their son. amanda joins us now. she's a new york times bestselling offer and co-hos of the daytime show the top. it's great time -- >> thank you for having me it's so nice to be here.

>> congratulations on the book i love the genesis of th story. you and your young son elvis were sitting in a rocking chair. let's talk about our dreams. >> i think our children inspir us always. this was truly inspired by elvis. i should have included him as coauthor >> he has royalties. >> he's going to get it. when he has a line in this boo that's exactly what he said to me we wouldn't do this ever night. do you want me to tell you m dreams yes! it is really sweet it's a nice ritual we do >> those are some of the mos special moments. maybe it's just you and your child. what kind of dreams do you guy talk about >> elvis loves trucks an airplanes like any other two year old he loves to explore. i just thought about creatin

this adventure for him that he gets to go on. i love dreams. i'm a big dreamer. i always have been there is this world injury means that exists nowhere else you know i just wanted him to connect t his father i made it all about an adventure that he got to go on with his dad i was not a part of it in the morning, i would come get him out of his crib. tell me about your dream where did you go what did you do? that became our thing that w did every night. >> you had many chapters tha were not expected given what happened in the loss of your husband. i'm so sorry i'm very inspired by how you have been so public with you journey. i know it's a very tough thing to talk about. you ended up - i really admire you when i can't imagine doing it your son was only nine month old when your husband passed away you have raised him as a singl mother can you talk about that journe and how it inspired you to d this book and what we've learned about yourself i am sure your strength has to

have some private even yourself >> oh, yes i did not expect to be a singl mom. i have just been thrown into being one. i am a working single mom. i have like five jobs. i am constantly needing help and asking for help and i know that's really hard for a lot o people to do, to say, i need help i can't do it all by myself. i've learned that i have to as for help in order to fill my cup and do everything that i need to do, also have to have helped i think that when you are pu in a tough situation, you migh be at your weakest point i life that is when you find out wh you are, what kind of strength you have i think that's what i have found, that i can do this, i can raise him on my own. i can include nick i everything that we do. i do that. i want him to have memories of his dad. with this book, it can be

tool for any parent. the pandemic caused a lot of loss - grandparents, friends, siblings, parents. this can be a way for any pair to talk to their children abou loss this person isn't on earth, bu let's go adventure with them i their dreams >> first of all, congratulations on your story. you are incredibly inspiring what do you say to someone out there -- not everyone has the ability t write a book for a lot o different reasons. what do you say to someone who has suffered the kind of los you have as someone who is going throug it, there is no playbook everyone is a very different what do you say to people? >> i would try to find a community. what i've learned is that grie can eat you up inside. you feel like no one understands the pain you feel so lonely and you fee like, i'm never going to get through this if you start opening up an meeting other people through

either grief centers communities, all people who go to this place to revel in thei grief, you talk to people an they have stories and yo realize, oh, i'm not alone this person understands my pain you have the same pain oh my gosh, let's talk about our pain you leave and you don't feel alone in this world. you feel like you have thi community. once you have a community, you can do so much you can get through so much. you are not all alone. it really makes a difference >> that does it for this edition of morning joe weekend we will be back with the liv monday morning at 6 am eastern have a great weekend >> this is the katie phang sho live from miami, florida we have lots of news to cove and lots of questions to