stay right here, alex witt reports begins right now thanks again >> a very good day from msnb world headquarters here in new york welcome everyone to alex wit reports. developing this, our the battl over abortion pills heading fo a dramatic showdown in the supreme court. i court breaking restriction on the drug mifepristone, bu having access to at leas wednesday as it reviews courts ruling. other, today democrati congressman barboli told msnbc what is at stake >> these decisions place

government judges and electe officials in the middle of suc important ethical decisions an so it is taking away reproductive freedoms, which i is once again one step towards the radical white ring in this country trying to establish national abortion ban. >> and that battle plays, ou concern and outrage over a new florida law banning most abortions after six weeks. earlier today, democratic stat senator shevrin jones told msnbc how floridians are reacting >> they're saying it's too much they're saying that the stat of florida, we're doing way to much as government overreach >> this extremism that we're seeing across the country is starting right here. this is literally the petr dish for what they are tryin to pass across the country >> new efforts to securing classify - locate classified documents as a 21-year-old air national guardsmen is charged under the air national guard act accused of leaking sensitive information online we will have the latest detail in this case in just minutes

also, the gop presidential hopefuls converging at the nra convention in indianapolis republicans embracing gu politics despite public outrag over recent mass shootings i both louisville and nashville. the big takeaways later this hour and calls growing louder o capitol hill for democrati senator diane feinstein to resign as health concerns keep from the senate. democratic congressman row khanna defending his positio to msnbc earlier today >> the single biggest thin this president can do with the republican house is confirme judges instead that were not being able to confirm judges every day goes by, senator feinstein is unable to be there, and i just think for the goo of the country, confirming these judges, let's have somebody who can vote. >> we have a number of reporters and analysts in plac covering all of these ne developments for us. so let's go now to nbc's chloe atkins joining in the studio o

the very latest on these two crucial abortion developments. first of, all we have th supreme court. they are reviewing mifepristone they're reviewing everything about, it's the underpinning of, it what recently the release had created, but w notice a stay until wednesday, it is accessible until wednesday, and then what happens? >> >> so we saw the suprem court move rather quickl yesterday, as on friday, t preserve the status quo as i relates to access to medicatio abortion, the two pin regiment keeping mifepristone accessible it really gave the supreme court a little bit more time t consider the next steps in thi case now the plaintiffs in this case, which are made up of a group o antiabortion advocates and doctors, are also ordered to respond by tuesday at noon from there we would likely o could as soon as mid next week get a response or some guidanc on what access looks like as i relates to mifepristone by

midweek. but alice, i would be remiss i i did not remind folks about the facts a medication abortion it was approved over two decades ago. it is highly safe, it is highl effective, and millions of people have used it since then we even heard from the planned parenthood had not too long ag who spoke about this evolvin court battle take a listen. >> when you look at th original opinion about thi case, it basically takes all o the antiabortion dump scienc and makes it into the opinio as if it is real and true. and you know, we know that mifepristone has been used for over 23 years, and 60 countries, 5 million people have safely and effectively terminated their pregnancies. >> and alex, if fo mifepristone is at some poin no longer available, we woul likely see providers pivot t

this misoprostol only regiment which is safe, but slightl less effective, and commonly used around the world when mifepristone is not available. we would also look and see providers to surgical abortion which is a lot more invasive i a lot more expensive for a lot of patience. >> absolutely, let me ask yo quickly about what happened in florida with governor desantis very little find fair we might add. now signing a law that has mor borgias legal after six weeks. let's remind people, a lot o times when you have no ide they are even pregnant by si weeks. but when you think about this, look at the south, big picture what does it mean for access across the south to abortion >> big picture, you want t take a step back, but after th dobbs decision, florida really evolved into this abortion saf haven state for the southeas and even the caribbean and that is because a majority of the states in tha surrounding part or area of th country have heavily restricte abortion access or have banded with very few or narro

stepsons and so florida has seen a majo uptick and out of stat patients seeking abortion care in the state but the caveat here is that th state ban does not immediately take effect. it only takes effect if another, occurrence 15 weeks then i propelled in an ongoing lega battle >> it's still being reviewed >> exactly it's over the right to privacy including abortion, but if the six-week ban is put into place will not only impact floridians, but it will pack people in the south and east, and th caribbean, and people have t travel even further for care or they won't be able to get care, and will be forced t carry a pregnancy to term. >> thus all of the outrage and protests that we see around al of this issue. our chloe atkins, thank you for, that we will see you again meanwhile, let's go to the classified documents leak u.s. national guard airme jack teixeira woke up in a prison uniform in massachusett today after his first cour appearance in boston he now faces two counts of possessing in transmitting government secrets -- is joining me now with the ver

latest on the investigation. george, good day to you, whe you learning about this >> good day alex. we know this case is obviously going to continue with it's lengthy investigation as w review the documents that were leaked on line this is obviously a very emotional case for the family. we saw this outside of the courthouse his father telling him, i love you, and he responded i love you back, and so let's kind of backtrack a little bit here an how we got here. we know that jack teixeira had some security clearance as far as 2021, it was a very lon after that some of these documents reportedly leake online on a online forum, social media platform, prett much known to gamers, and so jack teixeira apparently kne that investigators were trying to get closer to him because there are reports that he used his government issued laptop t search for the word leak, an that is when he became aware that they were looking into it in some parts of the court affidavit that we were reviewing, he was taking tax he was transcribing informatio from some of these informations,

and posing into this form, which a user there said hey, w are just talking about geo political affairs, and historical context of wars but obviously, there was mor to it than that. and so when she started doin that, he decided than take som of these documents home, start photographing them, and then start posting those online that is why he is facing these charges under the espionag act. now weighing and on this attorney general merrick garland, who's taking this ver seriously, take a listen t what he said about thi investigation, alex. >> this is not just abou taking home documents. that is of course itself illegal, but this is about the transmission, both the unlawfu -- and the transmission of th documents. people who sign agreements t be able to receive classifie documents, acknowledge the importance to the national security of not disclosing those documents, and we intend to send that message, ho

important it is, to ou national security. >> yeah, so what was leaked, a far as we know right now, we know it was related to the war in ukraine and information about ou allies, specifically in sout korea and israel and this is just the tip of th iceberg. right, now talks on the hill we're about possibly keeping a close or tab on those that hav this type of clearance t prevent something like thi from happening >> okay, george police, than you very much for the setup, because we are gonna continu this as we bring in mark polymeropoulos, former chief o operations in eurasia, and sbc national security analyst an author of purity in crisis leadership lessons from th cia. i have one word for this whole situation, absolutely stunning mark and when i think about you, yo have spent decades in th trenches you've been gatherin intelligence, you cultivate, you protect your sources, an what is your initial damag assessment in terms of how serious this is?

>> i think we can break it int two parts. one, is what has bee compromised, and we still don' know they will do a damag assessment on this i am not kind of at this point thinking about in a base scenario, because what is pu on some of these d.o.d. system is not the crown jewels of human intelligence or signal intelligence it is very serious, an teixeira is a traitor should g to jail, but the damage i woul say can be limited in scope. i certainly hope so. but one thing alex, i think we have to think about on this, and there's going to be a lo of questions about how young 2 year old was able to acces this information, but keep i mind, that intelligence unit i cape cod of all places i actually real. they do significant work, an he had a i.t. role which gav him some access to this. and so it goes to me, at the end of, this this is kind of the court notion of when peopl go bad, and that is the frailt of the human condition we trust members of th

intelligence community, in thi case, something went wrong i the security processing, the background ongoing monitoring, and then we have someone, as often happens because they'r human beings, who should not have had access to thi information, and did som things that is going to land him in jail for a long time. >> and our reporter from the washington post as you know wh interviewed a young man wh says that he was a member of teixeira's group on the discor platform here is what he said, and by the way, he is a minor, and th post obscured his face, bu they did not alter his voice but let's take a listen. >> there was a young charismatic man who love nature, god, who loved shootin guns and racing cars it would appear as if he sor of grew angry with the fac that only one or two peopl were paying attention to these documents that he was pourin his heart out and to, and as a sign of just anger, he jus decided to post the full documents. >> so when you talk abou motive, are you mark convinced that this is just somethin

limited to bragging, getting annoyed that people don't give him the street cred he was looking for, these are teenagers mostly in this group mostly male as well, and giv me a sense of how this compare were snowden and others. >> well first and foremost, think it's nothing like snowden, where there were literally thousands of documents i mean snow didn't compromis major national security agency systems. and so i don't think - while this is serious, it's no that level >> you know what mark hang o one second, i'm looking at som of the details here in the washington post, and i featured detailed charts o battlefield conditions i ukraine, and highly classified satellite images of th aftermath of russian missile strikes. this is also on an ukrainian electrical facility, a potential trajectory's of nort korean ballistic nuclear missiles that could reach th united states. this stuff is serious. >> oh, sure, no doubt it i serious. there is no doubt about that substantively it is serious, i think the big worry in the intelligence community is, wil

this compromise our collection systems? will hostile nations do some forensics on this? and if you dive into the substance, a lot of this was actually known already, and so i'm not downplaying it already but putting it in comparison with other kind of espionage scandals of the past, it jus doesn't match up that you raise something about his motivations, i think it' really interesting, and that's where investigators are gonn be diving into this, because h is, from the washington post reporting that video, hi friend was saying that he wa engaged and antisemitic racist rhetoric, shooting guns, kin of looked at the alt-right as place where he was comfortable and so i think their people ar going to really dive into that and you can ask the question how did somebody like this get a security clearance and how did somebody maintain access t those systems. and one thing i suspect is tha there might be football around him who actually knew. so i think d.o.d. is going t have to tighten up this again, because as we mentioned before these are human beings, and we can't have people like thi

with access to this kind o information in the intelligenc community. >> another area that was divulged, and this is somethin we were all talking about fo six weeks ago, it really blanketed the news, and that was the spy balloons the reporting that these lea documents brought details abou to for additional chinese sp balloons, including that one that flew over u.s. carrie strike within the pacific. nbc news has reached out to th pentagon mark, but it's not ye independently verify the contents of the documents. we want to make that point ver very clear but does this new reportin surprise you and is there a negative impact to the chinese knowing that th u.s. knows about it and what they are doing >> this was familiar i think t a lot of, us because if yo recall, when there was a whole controversy over the spy balloons, d.o.d. said that there were other instances the key on this, if you recall the intelligence made a brie --

what's going to matter is that is the information in thes documents consistent with what was briefed before it is not, i think the administration has a lot t answer for, but i get a sens that this was part of th briefings. and at the end of the day, look, i'm not surprised that the chinese know that we know. i don't think that they're gonna be sending spy balloon across the united states anytime soon >> yeah well, okay, i guess we will see, mark polymeropoulos, okay to talk to, you might g on the move, one of the bigges supporters in the house is coming to new york but will congressman jim jordan's big plans for monda backfire we have some answers next. ♪ ♪ ♪♪ voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪♪ weeds... they have you surrounded. you're just gonna stand there? or are ya gonna take your lawn back.

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delegate for the u.s. virgin islands, she's the ranking member of the select subcommittee on th weaponization of the federal government welcome back to the broadcast, good to see you, and so ho unusual is this, and what is behind it. >> well, you know, this is really, remember, members of congress have field hearings but predominately, our field hearings are to go to ou constituents to about th things that they are mos interested in, not the thing that trump is interested in. so this is a trump style attac on our justice system, and i is a dangerous political stunt that the republicans are going to do on monday. >> - soon jim jordan to black elements of the gop in a cas against trump. do you think that was the righ move what are the chances that th court sides with bragg >> well, i don't know. i don't want to get into whether it was the right mov or not the right move, but i think it was born also out o frustration with chairma

jordan as well as other member of the republican party led by speaker mccarthy to try an inject themselves into a criminal receiving i think that that is a ver dangerous precedent for us a members of congress to do, particularly for a republica to engage in a state crimina proceeding, they are the one that are so interested and are believed to be proponents of state rights, to reject th federal government, and to reach into a state prosecution of what is believed to be appropriate crime for them t prosecute. we have heard district attorne bragg talk about the types o crimes, and how this is simila to the many crimes that th manhattan district attorne does this is not a novice, criminal or white-collar prosecution, having done thi numerous times as assistan u.s. attorney. as well as in the manhatta

district attorney's office and the attorney generals office and so i think we should watch and see what is going to happen, and let it play out. jim jordan and others have t do the bidding of their leader trump, and that is why they ar being engaged in this, rathe than looking at the issues tha are what's on america's minds. we see this over and over again, alex, there is not been an legislation done by th republican-led house, whic actually affects americans lives. it's either grievances political stunts, supports a big business, corporations, bi oil, and nothing to affect those individuals or eve inflation, which is going to affect americans lives >> i think it's generall accepted that this has been th least productive, leas effective start to a congres ever, but let's move on to former national director o intelligence john ratcliff

testifying before the januar six grand jury, he did o thursday, after a judge denied trump's claims of executiv privilege. now, i know you are in impeachment manager during trump's second senate trial, how significant migh ratcliffe's testimony be >> what we know that ratcliffe is also joining trump bait stephen miller, homeland security official can push and ali, and as one of the administration officials tha have been seen at the federa court with a grand jury is being held, and these ar individuals who have firsthand knowledge and possibly hav firsthand knowledge as to th intent by the former president to overturn a american election. and so i think that this i really significant that th grand jury is hearing from these individuals, along wit vice president pence, saying that he is not going to figh the appeal of his appearance as well, and i think the court

as well as the special prosecutor are going to ge some very interesting testimon from these individuals >> yeah, we will be stayin tuned for that, that is fo sure let's head to the supreme cour right now, i understand that there are people outside gathering, typically whe there's hot button issues, which this is. the supreme court is reviewing restrictions on the abortion drug mifepristone, we do have shot right now, but we will ge to it, but they're doing s after temporarily preserving access to the drug and so what are your primary concerns as this is playing ou in court >> sure. we know that, you know, th right to reproductiv discussions, reproductiv freedoms is eight individual right. these are rights that should b between individuals, families, and their god, not their government and so we need to remove ourselves from this an particularly when the fda ha approved drugs that they fin effective.

and we know as well that thi is a drug that it's not just used an elective abortions, bu also in miscarriages and other things that women have saw and gotten their doctors, thei health physicians to be able t prescribe to them. and so what we are hoping is that the court will look a what the fda has done an recognize that agencies have broad discretion to utilize an enforce their own rules, and not allow states or the federa government even, the legislative branch, for th judiciary to reach into them and so we have, as house democrats, introduce legislation, women's healt protection act, and we are hoping that that is vita legislation to protect abortio access across the country, despite any supreme cour outrage, and our outrage ove the overturning of roe v. wade we cannot have patchwork state

activity this is really dangerous, no only to women, but to health care providers, to the economies, and to decision about families welfare and so we are really trying to push for this, and we ar hoping that they are going t be republicans that will joi us in this, and we will se where we are after that ruling >> okay, thank you very much for your time, congresswoman stacey - and so who got booed at the nr convention you might not believe it, bu we will tell you next. i learned i can stay undetectable with fewer medicines. that's why i switched to dovato. dovato is for some adults who are starting hiv-1 treatment or replacing their current hiv-1 regimen. detect this: no other complete hiv pill uses fewer medicines to help keep you undetectable than dovato. detect this: most hiv pills contain 3 or 4 medicines. dovato is as effective with just 2. research shows people who take hiv treatment as prescribed

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vice president pence among the gop presidential hopeful flocking to the nra convention in indianapolis this weekend the conference taking place as calls grow for gun safet following deadly mass shooting and louisville and nashville nbc's vaughn hillyard went t the convention van, what kind of reception to the 2024 hopefuls get? >> now with a myriad of policy issues taking center stage i these political debates, and the republicans 2024 presidential field, only expanding, the juxtaposition o friday of former vice presiden mike pence taking the stage of the nra convention in his home state just to be followed just 90 minutes later by his former boss, it was quite the setup >> reporter: former presiden donald trump and former vice president mike pence back at the same event for the first time since the duo lef

washington more than two years ago. the reception for mr. trump -- [applause] overpowering compared to the splash of booze for it miste pence. [crowd chanting] >> i love you. mike >> i love you too >> reporter: the gathering a nra convention a potential republican constituency ahead of potential republican matchup >> well, i'm all in for trump. >> all in for trump? anyone else you're considering >> no, absolutely not. >> are you definite trump? >> no. not definite trump >> reporter: the expo just day after a gunman killed five i louisville, and two weeks afte another killed six and a christian school in nashville. >> but we don't need gun control. we need crime control. >> the issue is not too many guns, the issue is too man thugs, hoodlums, and savag criminal demonstrates. >> reporter: the dueling speeches a backdrop for lega entanglement true. mr. trump asking appeals court this week to block his forme

vice president from testifying in the special counsel's january six investigation, a of the 2024 republican prospects hit the road, taking on the abortion rights debate. >> thank you >> reporter: ron desantis at a republican fund-raiser at ne hampshire, after signing a six-week abortion ban in florida, and tim scott fresh off announcing his presidentia exploratory committee, sitting down for a exclusive interview with nbc's aly vitaly. >> if i were president o united states, i would literally sign the mos conservative pro-lif legislation they can get through congress >> even if it was six weeks? >> whatever the most conservative legislation i they can come through congress >> is what you would say >> yes >> and now as this 202 republican field takes shape just a couple of days afte south carolina senator tim scott announce his exploratory bid, mike pompeo, the former secretary of state in the trum administration, is taking hi name out of the running, sayin he will not declare a former

run for the presidency, meanin that at least this field, at the time in which some republicans are concerned abou the anti trump vote bein fractured, at least one name i not putting his name into th ring here at this time >> okay, vaughn hillyard, than you for that -- south florida's trying to dr out after days of historic rainfall fort lauderdale got the wors of it, with hurricane like rai dumping more than two feet o water, in fact, the city got seven months of rain in just about a seven hour stretch nbc's sam brock is joining m from fort lauderdale sam, i've seen you there all week, and just have to say, have felt badly, and we've bee waiting for water, it looks little drier where you are right now. how are things, and how is the city recovering? >> wait drier, alex, it's good to be with you, and just as frame of restaurants, they received nine times thei monthly output of rain for april. in seven hours, as you jus said it was of biblical proportions

almost you might be surprised i am on the edge - of the street was flooded le as of last night, but it has finally receded. look over my shoulder, and you can see people have taken thei clothing and furniture that is been completely ruined by th floodwaters, getting into th house. they've had to carry it outsid here, and i will show you some video as well. just a second ago, a couple of blocks over, we got shots of back pump trucks, these huge trucks that are actually setting up water from thes neighborhoods where it is just standing pools we heard from the meri yesterday, that we have 14 o them originally, that was no enough, and the requeste another ten or 20 i believe. they now said they have 25 o the ground, doing justice in neighborhoods that are still dealing with this pullin water. i wanna show you another impac of what we've seen and these historic events here, which is the business side of things. this is children's world south and i'll take you over here fo a second it's a daycare center alex tha is so critical to this community, because they have somewhere in the neighborhoo of 98 children here who care for them, and then another hundred and 40 in the second location what we witnessed today is nothing short of miraculous. all of these different group

and staff members and people who live in fort lauderdal have come out. look at all of these they've been sanitizin furniture, i've watched this they have gone down and wipe down books and shares and al of these different aspects o the daycare. they're trying to salvage so they can then got the floor to build it up again. and they just spent $200,000 on-remodeling here and this is what they are face with right now it is a massive cleanup effort to just try to get back to normal now i did speak with the cfo randall fernandez, any tal about the fact that not only i this going on, but three o four blocks away alex, it is his family home. that also got flooded. he said that has to be gutted. so it is a double whammy o sorts. i asked randall about the toll of this trauma over the last several days here is what he said >> who is helping out today? >> everybody we made a post on facebook and -- >> immediate response. >> immediate, overwhelming -

sorry. [crying] >> alex, if there is silver lining to all of this and obviously this i emblematic of so man businesses that could go through something similar, a least the staff here, they'r gonna go and work at the secon location, of 98 children i their families, they hav capacity at that location whic is 15 minutes away and so they're going to have paychecks coming through in th middle of all of this. but still, this is what harden you right now. as communities deal with thi level of horror that everyon pitches and. i looked it was a facebook post, and mingle, said we have peopl coming in from all of th country, and now they're physical labor and time to try to help them in this time of need >> got to tell you, it restore faith in humanity when you see that kind of reaction. thank you so much sam brock art, i appreciate the silver lining note how donald trump surprised the legal wod rlthis week, and wha to make of it. eah. no.

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trump's motion to block mike pence from testifying in the justice department's january six investigation. if the court of appeals rule against trump, he is out o options to stop pence' testimony other than filing appeal at the supreme court. let's bring in kathryn christian, msnbc legal analyst and partner at list an abramson a l o b and forme district attorney of the manhattan d.a. office. or go back to the show, good t see you, so i am curious you

expectations on this does this go to the suprem court, do you think the cour of appeals will rule against donald trump >> donald trump, you can bet they're going to try to go through the supreme court. he has a right to appeal, an of course this just affects th delay of what will probably be the unaffordable testimony o the former vice presiden trump. he has actually already writte a speech where he is already said, in his belief, don trump was wrong, and the vic president of january six had n right to overturn the election and he also publicly said that he believes that trump's words were reckless and they endange his family and everyone else a the capitol that day so we already get a sense of what he will say under oat that he has said publicly, but special counsel once mor information. wants to know about more

conversations and any that the vice president had wit president trump about th election >> bottom line, you think that it gets delayed but it i inevitable what about donald trump who as you know is out for a second disposition on thursday an unlike his first depositio where mostly pride the fifth he surprisingly answered all the questions in a new yor attorney civil case agains businesses, but we don't kno what he said but what does trump's apparent cooperation tell you about thi case >> it says that mr. trum realizes he is in between rock and a hard place. and what i mean by that is, in a civil case, you don't have a right to remain silent i mean you do, but the judge will instruct the jury at th conclusion of the presentation at the size evidence that th fact that the defendants i this case exercise his fifth amendment right to remai silent can be held against him >> so catherine, you are sayin that if the judge was saying

by the way jerry, you need t know that the president, thi defendant, pled the fifth more than 400 times in this case, right? that tells them something. >> and if he didn't, if he testified, because if he didn't, let's say he pled the fift again, they will be instructed the reason why the defendant did not answer questions because the answers would've been unfavorable to him. now the problem when i sai that he is between a rock and hard place is that now he has deposition, and there are thre prosecutors who are swirling i his early orbit, including mor importantly, the manhattan d.a., and i say more importantly because the manhattan d.a. has indicated that - these exact same fact that the new york attorney general ha similarly filed a lawsui against with trump his investigation has not been concluded. so they will take this deposition and see what mr trump said and as a prosecutor, it is always a gift when defendant

do not exercise the right to remain silent because, inevitably, the prosecutor wil argue, while he admitted and what he couldn't deny, h didn't admit and so if he didn't testify at the deposition, it would b held against him in the civi suit, and the fact that he has now testified, it might be use against him and not just the pending investigation, but the current ongoing hush money indictment that has happened >> so alvin bragg is takin notes. i just want to ask you quickly of course, there's the possibility of perjury with th former president to lie unde oath, i mean that is out there still, right >> there is always a possibility when someone testifies, if they don't tel the truth about material facts they have committed perjury an can be indicted for that crime if they don't tell the truth >> what about how quickly yo think the civil case might g to trial, and is a settlemen possible >> well, a settlement is possible i believe the judge in thi

case said that there is a firm trial date, and it is in the fold, and so this is a n nonsense judge, and so i anticipate, and we are already seeing it, that the attorney for mr. trump and hi assortment of cases are goin to play the cases against each other. one attorney who's also th defense attorney on hi indictment in manhattan wa asking for a civil case, why because of the indictment in manhattan. and so you know, he has a lo of legal matters that ar swirling around him. and he can't go to trial on al of them at the same time, bu he can one by one go to trial. >> and try to run presidential campaig concurrent to all of this, tha is a bit of a head-scratcher catherine christian, it' really good to talk with you, look forward to see you agai very soon. meantime, we saw the midterm and most recently at wisconsin abortion is a losing issue for republicans, and so why does s many want to go wndo with that ship that makes you feel lighter than air?

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intensify next week. the supreme court blocking restrictions on the drug mifepristone and preservin access until at least wednesday, as the justices consider wha is next. joining me now is alenci johnson, political strategist, senior adviser for president biden's 2020 campaign, and chief impact officer of ten 63 west broad also, actually pratt who say political strategist and forme republican and nbc think contributor. ladies, good to see you both alencia, you first hear, because this fight ove abortion could have broade implications for fda dru approval do you think that this legally is a foot that up politicall boosting democrats >> oh, 100% this wil politically boost democrats. listen, i've worked a plan parenthood for six years and actually worked with jimmy lawson, and for years, for decades almost planned parenthood in abortion right have been telling folks that this is a losing issue for

republicans. it took a long time for folk to see that when the decisio was overturned, it galvanize support, not just democrats bu also independents an republicans who said, hey, wait, i want abortions to be legal i this country and i actuall want the government out of m personal medical decisions and so at the demographics o our voting population continue to change and become overwhelmingly young overwhelmingly people of color and overwhelmingly women who are engaged on this issue, thi is going to be another critica issue for democrats who went o and 2022 >> what about actually, this fight over mifepristone, that' playing out right now. you also have florida governor ron desantis signed a bill banning most abortions after six weeks. and then a new interview wit nbc news another republica presidential hopeful, that being ten scott, gave hi stance take a listen to him >> if i were president o united states, i would literally sign the mos conservative pro-lif legislation that they can ge

through congress >> even if it was six weeks? >> i'm not gonna talk about si or five or seven or ten, but whatever the most conservative legislation is they can come through congress - >> is what you time? >> yes >> tim scott can get a numbe that he supports, we can't get specific well desantis goes inside this new florida bill in closed-door ceremony, either actions that say that this is losing issue for republicans and since you are a former republican, can you figure out why they are getting behind it this way >> yes so these bands, whether it b over drugs or about potentia nationwide bans on abortion, they are all about the control of women, which is exactly wha the gop is proving that they stand for when they ar flabbergasted and have no idea what to say -- >> ashley, hang on, they looke at the calendar, right they know it is 2023, you ar telling me that they reall want to have control over women?

>> i am telling you that because in 2016, when i became a public network trumper and switch my affiliation, i was told that i should get bac imitation by many trolls o twitter who were republicans so that shows you th republican base, this extrem wing of the party, actuall views women in this day an shows us apparently that women are just vessels of fertility, which to me, reprehensible, bu this is something that the extreme wing and their bas believes and that they will al cater to even though again the cannot talk about it publicly, this is why these bills ar signed in the dark of the night, and this is the whole poin here their crusade for a nationwide abortion ban but that is widely unpopular with voters and this is why it will be an electoral disaste for them in 2024, when women show up to the ballot box an say no more. >> interesting let's go to the republican presidential hopefuls, some of them flocking to the annual nr convention, and that include

former president donald trump. let's take a listen to some of what he said >> i was proud to be the mos pro gun, pro second amendmen president we have ever had i the white house, i think tha has been acknowledged. with your support, in 2024, will be your loyal friend an fearless champion once again a the 47th president of th united states. [applause] >> let me make you promise, as long as there is breath in m lungs, i will stand with you t ensure that the right to kee and bear arms shall not be infringed. >> so alencia, timing wise, it is coming on gun violence is a the forefront of america minds. why? because it has followe numerous mass shootings. what does it say that taking part in this nra conventio still appears to be mandator for gop hopefuls >> well, it shows where th money is for some of these

candidates, and these hopefuls it's interesting, because th nra, they actually haven't bee as powerful as they have bee and years before, i would say, they have not raised as many millions there's a raising millions o dollars, and corresponding a lot of campaigns, but you know what has become more powerfu and i really want to talk about? the activists to try to preven gun violence every town - continues to have balance ears for not only show up and protest against the nra, these pro gun maga republicans, bu they continue to actually ru some of their problems here, and in 2022, hundred 40 seats, state local and federal level, and so i think this does nothing but galvanize th people and people who are tire of gun violence, and tired o these people who are going t constantly say, that you know, this is a critical issue for them >> can you actually, rea quickly, give me a sense o what republicans gained by

attending an nra event >> the theme of this whole segment is that republicans ar toning down. i'm not sure that they gaine anything by attending when the americans dissatisfaction with gun loss is the highest it has ever been. and so this tone-deaf approach to politics, just by scoring political points with an extreme wing of their base i politically very toxic and dangerous for them >> potentially short term gain they would think, but long ter pain potentially okay actually, alencia, it's good to see you both, thank yo much and coming up on our left -- law -- and how a 21-year-old a woun up accused of leakin classified documents on th internet in the clouds of your choice. with flexible multi-cloud services that enable digital innovation and enterprise control, vmware helps you innovate and grow.

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