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stories, in japan today shocking moment caught o camera when a man threw an explosive device near japan' prime minister, prompting by senators to flee the scene o officials to rest the prim minister to safety nobody was hurt and the suspec was arrested this is the scene in sudan where fierce clashes erupted today, and what the call a apparent coup attempt by apparent mare -- he was sheltering with the embassy team after waking up t deeply disturbing sounds o gunfire and fighting in new jersey, firefighters ar badly containing the state largest wildfire in more than decade 1000 acres burned over several days, but forest fire services say it is 95% contained now. that's gonna do it for me of - i'll see you at 1 pm eastern my friend yasmin vossoughian continues my coverage righ over there
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good afternoon everybody, i' yasmin vossoughian just left of camera from where alex was just reporting from the supreme court is steppin in to protect access to a ke abortion pill, at least for th next few days. new revelations involvin american security in the wak of the arrest of a 21 year old national guardsmen for leaking classified documents this hour, and event marks ten years since the bombing that rocked the boston marathon we're gonna have that for you. live plus, even to mas shootings in the last two weeks, was not enough to tamp down th rhetoric at the nra convention as presidential hopefuls tried to prove they love guns th most >> i guarantee you that i will continue to stand with the nra >> the second amendment ensure that the american people hav the capacity to defend their lives, fortunes and sacred on. or >> i will stand with each and every one of you and protection of what we all know
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is - >> i am a concealed weapon permit holder myself my husband is a hunter >> with me at 1600 pennsylvani avenue, no one will lay finger on your firearms let's be very clear, the issue is not too many guns, the issu is too many thugs, could limbs and savage criminals that is really what the issu is >> we are going to have much more on that ahead, we start though in washington, at the supreme court where protests broke out today over reproductive care rights well trump appointed judge issued rulings that limite access to mifepristone, and fd proved abortion drug the high court has stepped i for, now issuing a stay on those restrictions until wednesday at midnight. let's get right to it with nbc's -- covering the latest. msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance is with us as well quote, let me start with you o this one as you have bee following the story pretty closely. give us the reaction so fa that you are hearing on this latest decision. >> that's right, i just got of
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the phone with multipl abortion providers, an abortion rights advocates wh applauded the supreme court' decision to reserve the status quo as it relates to medicatio abortion they did emphasize that th battle over abortion pills i far from being over, and acces to the pills could look much different by the time mid week we also heard from protester on the ground in front of th supreme court who echoed the same sentiment take a listen. >> a sense of outrage that a judge with no medical training would have the audacity to override a decision of the fda that was the products of experts in the field >> we are getting the christia evangelicals view imposed on the entire country, whic violates the separation of church and state furthermore, the drug that was
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recently band, because it is not safe by a texas drug is on that is used for miscarriage treatment as well as for abortions. >> yasmin, the drug at the center of this battle is mifepristone, which wa approved 20 years ago by the fda and has been on the market ever since it's been used by millions o americans and it is highly saf and highly effective we did hear from the plaintiff in this case who brought the suit about, they call th supreme court's decision t preserve the status quo of the medication abortion standard operating procedure. for, now all eyes are on the supreme court as they ar poised to weigh in on the most highly anticipated abortio related case since the overturning of roe >> joyce, if you will, let's walk through some of this. chloe, thank you for you reporting on this we will talk to you again
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soon as we continue to follo the story. joyce, let's talk about this order right from justice alito arguably one of the most conservative justices on the court. what do you glean from this da to wednesday at midnight especially since it temporaril restores the ability to mail mifepristone >> so in a couple of words yasmin, i don't read too muc into this. this is purely procedural. and the fact that justice alit signed this order only reflect the fact that this is th circus that he considers these sorts of requests from nothing involving him bein involved in this particula case it is important for our viewer to know that this is not about resolving the substance of thi case this is just early times and the question right now i whether there should be an injunction in place that prevents the texas judges orde that would ban nationwide sale of mifepristone.
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the litigation is ongoing. that is the only issue here. so the supreme court is just preserving the status quo unti it can look at some of the preliminary issues in th middle of this week. there's also a contradictory case out of washington state it is likely that because of the split in the circuits, the supreme court will let thi ruling leapfrog from the court of appeals onto their ow docket >> if we look back right, to the overturn of roe, tha decision - supreme court justices wrote that we are turning this bac to the states hands. what is it then doing if i fact, in court, they weigh i on this decision on a national level what does it do to the trust, the sanctity of the court? >> right, so this is why it' so important for the court t zealously protect it
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reputation and make sure tha americans have confidence in its objectivity. because it is called upon to make difficult decisions o issues that are very disruptiv and very hotly debated when the court lacks the publi confidence, decisions like thi don't go down very well. i think it's problematic for our institutions that this i rising just as the court has a number of difficult issues o its plate concerning its reputation after dogs, and what the court explicitly said, was decisions about abortion would be left u to each state. and so the fact that we no have one judge trying to decid for the country, it's very problematic. >> joyce vance, thank you. by the way you're gonna stic around for just a little bit a we dive into some other topics including the calls for an investigation into justice clarence thomas, we will hav more on the abortion pil rulings as well. and where things go from here, with many tim raju, with the
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president of narrow all, pro-choice america that conversation is coming, u you don't want to miss that. the 21 year man accused of leaking potentially hundreds o pages of classified national security documents is now in jail massachusetts, arab national guardsmen, jack teixeira, wa detained after his court appearance yesterday where h was indicted on criminal charges. teixeira now faces a decade in prison if convicted. nbc's correspondent, georg soliz, joining me now for more on this. lots of twists and turns i this whole thing, it unfounded quickly. if you, will, george bring u up to date >> one of the things tha investigators and people wan to know is how someone got thi kinds of clearance and with hi role, being able to share this information as fast as he did. so let's backtrack, we kno that he had the top secret security clearance since 2021. from there he bega transcribing some of these documents, posting them on a online forum that is known to. gamers it is listed as a socia
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media platform one in th documents. he gets paranoid, alleging a the court documents say. he starts taking the documents home it's a big no no, photographs them and post thos online tothis group and you, know in the documents it says that this group wa really just talk about geopolitical affairs in th history of wars. no motive listed so far in thi case so he goes to court. this escalates from his name getting out there, he goes t court, it's an emotional day for the family an emotional da for. him all of the exchanges just love you, i love, you sign that goes from there we then learned that he had a sens that investigators were on t him because he then uses his own government computer, searches for the word leaked t see if his name pops up of, course it does. so obviously it's a big show o force with the investigato showing up to his home neighbors are rattled, they ar saying we have no idea why h did this he is a mild mannered --
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obviously the intent is what investigators are after. and now the attorney general i going, in wondering how this happened they want to know, do they nee to crack down? does the department of defense need to investigate? take a look at what merric garland had to say >> this is not just abou taking home documents. that is of course itself illegal. but this is about th transmission, people who signe agreements to be able to receive classified documents acknowledge the importance t the national security of not disclosing those documents and we intend to ascend that message to show how importan it is for national security. >> yasmin, one of the things that investigators note in these documents is that he would have known, he would'v signed an agreement knowin that with his access to to secret documents he would've known not to transcrib anything, certainly no photograph it and posted online of course, this is now becomin a political issue with members
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of both sides of the aisle weighing in. saying hey, maybe nothing wron happened here but clearly ther is for the discussion about ho would someone so young and i his role was able to obtai these documents? >> i don't think we're necessarily going to kno whether or not they are goin to be repercussions from the lead of the documents. we will speak later on in th next hour with admiral about that but what are the ramifications the national securit ramifications? the geopolitical ramifications of some of what we learned i these documents? much more to come on that george, thank you we are back in just 60 seconds with what we are learning abou an explosion in japan, out o sight for the country's prim minister was just moments away from giving a speech we will be rig bhtack. we will be rig bhtack. you need to deliver new apps fast using the services you want in the clouds of your choice. with flexible multi-cloud services that enable digital innovation and enterprise control, vmware helps you innovate and grow. [tap tap] my secret to beating sniff checks? secret dry spray. just spray and stay fresh all day.
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and we seize correspondent has more >> the prime minister wa unharmed after the attack today, southwest of the osaka authorities say a suspect is now in custody video from the scene showing the young man being tackled to the ground and the smoky aftermath of the explosion, no police have told japanese medi that the man threw an 8 to 1 inch metal pipe, possibly smoke bomb that landed near th prime minister and the exploded setting off widespread panic within the crowd no word yet about the motive but this is not the firs incidents of violence at a campaign event in japan. today's attack is bringing bac traumatic memories of former prime minister, shinzo abe,' assassination just last year i japan. abe was fatally shot by handmade gun in a country that is normally known for extremel low rates of violence, and ver strict gun laws. in the wake of his assassination, japan stepped u security and made to current - growing safety threats to it
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politician after the attack, the prim minister addressed the crowd from a separate location he apologized for causin concern and said we must carry on together. despite the incident earlier today, he has continued to campaign throughout the day. >> thank you, josh lederman, for that still ahead, the florida governor just signed a six-wee abortion ban it is a big victory fo anti-abortion rights supporters so why isn't he talking abou it we will look at the gop' abortion problem coming up plus, a new push for a doj investigation of justice clarence thomas, afternoon formation surfaces about wha he got from a billionair friend and didn't tell anybody can a supreme court justic face criminal charges? we're gonna put that questio to us up next. as we get a, break here is a live look at the commemoration happening in boston right now. marking a decade since the marathon bombing a moment of silence happenin shortly, we wi tllake yo there. coming up. coming up. librarian.
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talk supreme court for a moment there are growing calls for th doj to investigate supreme court justice clarence thomas. over gifts that he receive from republican billionaire, harlem crow. this is coming after propublica, first reported last week tha thomas failed to disclos lavish gifts that he receive from crow. publication advances reporting on thursday, revealing tha justice thomas also the no
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disclose that crow brought property from him. crow publican noting that it i the first known instance o money flowing from crow to the supreme court justice and that crow purchased three propertie in a residential neighborhoo in savannah, georgia for mor than $130,000 belonging to the relatives of clarence thomas including that justice i elderly mother's home, who b the way still lives at tha property and which crow still owns. now senator sheldon whitehouse and congressman hank johnson are calling on attorney genera merrick garland to investigate back with me, now msnbc lega analyst joyce vance. all right joyce, let's tal through some of the stuff. you pointed through a tweet by chris moran at propublic saying this. a key thing to understand abou the undisclosed real estat deal thomas made many other disclosures that year. teaching fees, trave reimbursement, a 530 dolla stained glass medallion but no that property sale to cairo.
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talk to me more about this joyce and how this is an important shall we say, ou take of what it is that crow did not, not crow that clarenc thomas the not disclose an what laws he may have broken >> right, it's an importan admission from his disclosur forums you are required when you ar in any government position either the sort of forms t extensively list these sorts o things and the importance of th admission of this one item i that thomas had actually including some of the property that he owned on earlier forum and then he doesn't document the sale here and the amount of money he received or th fact that harlan crow continue to deal with upkeep on the residents. there is a lot of reason t believe that when these sort of deals aren't disclosed an the middle of other disclosures,
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that there is something that the person who fills the forms out is trying to hide. and federal criminal law reflects that it's a violation of 18 u.s. vote 2001 to make a false statement to the government there are other sorts of violations that are pertinen to the sort of a form an failure to complete it honestly i don't think that we should jump to the conclusion that do will investigate or prosecute, i think it's a long way from here to there but technically, what the justice that here is violation of law that could be investigative. >> talk to me about kind of th calculations if you can that the doj makes. when deciding to pursue an investigation like this, one that would focus on if supreme court justice? >> well you do it if there i probable cause, even probabl cause you have to have a reasonable suspicion that crime has been committed t open the file and to begin t investigate. he would need to have a good
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faith believe that it wa something would have jurisdiction over it for instance, has happened a long time ago. maybe it is outside of the statute of limitations or mayb it's an ongoing violation that doj should be looking at there is a good comparison o supreme court justice in the late 1960s was investigated by doj. and that, casey was receivin some ongoing payments from someone who dealt unless the carotene market, who happen to be under investigation himself but the financial arrangemen that justice - had was not particularly different from similar relationships, other justice at that point in time had with other individuals. nonetheless, he falls unde suspicion, there is some suggestion that this is some sort of a scheme for the perso paying him to avoid prosecutio for the investigation that h is involved in and just a few steps dow rather than being prosecuted so that i think is what th landscape here most likely would look like. there is also the option o
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impeaching a justice or a judg if they are believed to have violated some laws >> so i also want to ask you joyce, while i have you abou evan corcoran. this is breaking from th washington post in the last fe hours or so now. recusing himself from th mar-a-lago documents case, attorney for the forme president of the united states because he testified in fron of a federal grand jury. what do you make of this, most recent development >> well this is a long overdue step it has been very puzzling to see evan cochrane who know better, continuing to represen the former president of th united states in a crimina case where corcoran is a material witness their interests are adverse, h should not be working for trum in that case and this simply reflects the reality of hi situation. >> all right joyce vance for us as always my friend, grea to see thank you. all right coming up everybody, donald trump and mike pence, both appearing at the nr convention in indiana. one got a slightly bette
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plenty of prominent republican making both in person an virtual appearances. including former president trump left little room for interpretation on his stance o gun reforms, amidst a recent mass shootings both in nashville and louisville take a listen. >> let's be very clear, th issue is not too many guns the issue is to many thugs hello ms. and savage criminals on our streets that's really what the issue this is not a gun problem, thi is a mental health problem this is a social problem this is a cultural problem this is a spiritual problem. all right, let's bring in nb senior political correspondent jonathan allen who is covering this convention for us let's take a deep breath and then talk to some of the stuff if we can jonathan so the reception that trum received was pretty positive t say the least. not necessarily surprising some other folks there thoug they're not necessarily get th
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reception that they though that they would. presidential hopeful themselves talk us through some of. that went out and we heard >> i don't think there is an comparison between any of th other candidates and donal trump and terms of the positiv reception they got from th audience with trump, it was more abou appreciating him, applauding him and chanting usa when he walked onto the stage. and when he walked off of the, stage it was necessarily i between. not to say the not hav applause lines but it wa certainly very loud and ther at the beginning of the. and they were showing thei appreciation for what they saw as a very pro gun record durin his time as president. i thought almost all of th other candidates were potentia candidates who spoke you kno had good moments with th crowd. trump obviously a favorite kristie of south dakota, the governor there who said quote am the and are a got a prett good reception as well
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even question and who is see as a moderate governor of ne hampshire on a lot of issues got a very positive response he had a lot of charisma fro the, say she sort of had the argument that we have an argument about individua liberty and how the state care a lot about that its treatment of guns so o positive reaction for most o the candidates but trump clearly far away number one. >> i am the nra, that is quite a commitment at a time lik this mike, pence's home town, how did they go down for him >> mike pence was lost fully booed by some of the trump fan in the audience. there was also applause for him, i don't want to mess this up it was mixed but there was a lot of loud booing, both whe you got to the stage and whe he left the stage. i think we may have some sound from former vice president pence and from former presiden
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trump. >> well nra. i love you too >> i heard it was very rough it's a big news story. you have made news today, don't know what you did but yo made news today. what the introduction you gave >> yes yasmin, it was not fu for pence in that moment and obviously trump having a littl fun with it, trump came little bit later he had been flown in from ne york, teasing is former vice president there. he said to the audience what a nice guy mike pence's, a lot a bit like a cheshire cat ther as he said that. but pence you, know like the reason he was being booed as h stood up to donald trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election he stood up to the people wh rioted at the capitol and trie to create an insurrection. and now here we are watching
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you know people who were there for gun rights for secon amendment rights, booing pence for doing his constitutional duty wanting the one constitutional amendment to be sacrosanct but maybe not wanting to follow al of the rest of the institution >> i wonder if the nra convention on means a trum rally as well right? also, it is interesting becaus the nra does not have the powe of the poll, the money that it once had we talk a lot about the nr during these times of mass shootings but they certainly don't have the influence tha they once had. these are the voters that ar choosing to keep drugs legal i some of these places >> absolutely, the nra has weakened from what it once was in the institution at the same, time the fact tha all these candidates have to g there and pledge there and anglo 80 like this had befor with - a trans upstanding herself and saying i am the nra. i don't know how much more tha you can pledge your loyalty to
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a group. but really what they are doing is using the nra as a condui to talk to the members, th voters who are going to show u and this republican primaries. for not only believe that gu rights but also believe that there are gun rights defending other rights >> jonathan allen for us, as always thank you all right much more on the nra convention and the gop's positioning on gun reform ahea in the next hour with nicole hockley, mother of the sandy hook school shooting victim an the ceo of the organization, sandy hook promise coming up as well in our nex hour, the potential damage caused by the leaked militar documents and how some of th suspects positions could'v gotten their hands on such highly classified information. but first republican strugglin on how to tackle abortio rights, putting the party' newest presidential hopeful in a very tough spot, we will b right back
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reports -- hopefuls are already strugglin to speak about this issue in a big way and chief among them senator tim scott to launch presidential exploratory committee this week, take listen >> your colleague from south carolina, lindsey graham has a bill to limit abortions at 1 weeks, federal restrictions. do you support that measure? >> yes so i would say this i am certainly 100% pro-life >> if you are president, would you advocate for federal limits? >> yes once, again i once agai i'm 100 percent pro-life and i do believe that is not what i said. if our president of the united states i would literally sig the most conservative pro-life legislation that they can ge through congress >> even if it was six weeks? >> i would not talk about si or seven or five or ten. i am saying wherever the mos conservative legislation is, that can come through congress yes. >> all right joining me to tal
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all about, this bad as michael democratic strategist and susa del pressley, how chiapa ravages who also serves as a msnbc political analyst. susan let me start with you on this when will this come back t bite republican hopefuls especially when it seems lik they can't even answer the mos simple question? i mean you think back a decade ago, like republicans runnin on the issue of abortion, it was easy for them to put out there what they wanted when it came to abortion, they fel like they never actually would get. it it was something they campaigned on. now it's different >> that's exactly right, yasmi they thought that role would never be overturned so they ca say whatever they wanted tim scott a shocking because frankly if the president leads the discussion on significan legislation, so he reall messed up but i've bee thinking about this more and more it seems to me even and what will be a conteste presidential election and mean inches the country is so divided, i think abortion is
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going to be on the top of th ballot, not joe biden, not donald trump, people are going to vote and that means a crazy wonderful turnout for those wh believe that a woman has a right to control her own body. >> so basil, what do democrats need to do in order to capitalize on that moment? not only do they have the vote up what they want to protect abortion rights. you look at the exit polling from the midterm elections susan is absolutely right. abortion was number one issue, somewhat argue that despite th fact that republicans that hav a poor showing, and a poor turnout from the election, the democrats could've done more when it came to kind o capitalizing on the abortion issue. how do they keep that momentum going now through th presidential election? do they make abortion th number one issue >> well they can make it a top issue, if i go back to tim scott's point that he wa trying to make in that interview, when he's talking about six and five and seven
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and, nine think about ho callously and capriciously h talked about it right? this is an important decisio and then important polic choice that he seems to just sort of talk about as though not have it mattered and i think what democrats should do is really hone in on that type of language, tha type of presentation to send t the voters look how callous these leaders are. look how callous the republicans are. i don't want to stop, there actually think if you watch th vice president, kamala harri that national last week an then at the national actio network convention, i thin that she is probably the strongest weapon that democrat have not just talk about abortion you can also talk about gu control. you can talk about democracy a a whole and having the right of americans aggravated by these more extreme parts of th republican party
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she could be the strongest weapon democrats up in 2024. >> that's interesting, fossi canyon trailed on on that for moment that is the first time hearing from that. why do you feel like the vic president can be that person because she is a woman when it comes to abortion? because she prosecuted so many cases that came to crime and guns and california? what is it the thing that sets are apart aside from being the vice president >> sure well i think being the vice president is a big part o it if you think about it for period of time, there have bee a lot of conversations about how the vice president had bee under utilized but if you look at where the energy and the party's and frankly the energy of th american people, again o issues of gun control, governments, look at wha happened with tennessee and ho forceful her comments are well received with those comments and how they were across the country. i do believe that whether sh is a woman, as a black woman just in her person and identit
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and how she presents the american people, she can reall sell the democratic message, i she is given a platform and th authority to do so that is the important part here? >> yes if she is given the platform, that major if. there susan, so there's been a couple-foot set up and stepped on when we talk about th abortion issue right tim scott as we just playe some, nikki haley, mike penc as well had some missteps as well when it came to talking about abortion john kasich's action now a msnbc political analyst said this i think that there is a good possibility of trying to reach some kind of a reasonabl compromise it's a way that frankly they need to resolve this issue i am wondering though who that would play best to, what typ of voter that would play bes to and if that's even somethin that could happen? >> it could happen in, theory don't see it playing out because we were too close to the primary process. where i would play out, fo example where a compromise could be's on medical abortion the pill that we have talked about, for a few days now an
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there's been a stay on this bu some are looking to ban medica induced abortions. that is ridiculous and that is something that we saw in wisconsin, also play out the fact that people want to not have extremism take over their lives or their bodies or their spouses bodies so i think that, i don't kno if there is enough time to d it the voters that it would appea to are either republicans wh never voted for trump, forme republicans who may register i the party to vote against trum in a primary but it would take a lot of work and i think they are two into it now. again look at what we're on th sandyston. and just to basil's point, i want to add really quickly about how well the vic president can really force a turnout. florida in 2018 compared t 2022, the governor toria rac there were 900,000 fewer votes cast on the democratic line.
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turnout was not like 53% versu 61%. that's what i think the vice president will be great at i getting people out to vote >> susan el presidio, thank yo and basil michael saying yes from off camera. thank you as well. agreeing with susan there. good to talk to you both all right a day of sombe reflection and remembrance as bostonians mark a decad since the deadly terrorist bombing at the boston marathon that killed three and injure hundreds more. of that city, its mark in th day with prayers for victims and survivors and activities demonstrating that communities unwavering spirit, including a moment of silence. that will begin at any moment. nbc news kathy park is joining us now from boston as we wai for that moment of silence kathy, talk to us about what you are seeing on the ground there? how folks are, remembering tha day ten years ago now? >> hey yasmin, good to be with
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you so this community of boston, they are remembering that they by coming together an offshoot ever since tha tragedy came one boston. that this is what you ar seeing right now we are seeing hundreds of no thousands of people gatherin here right by the finish line. a program is getting underwa right now, earlier this mornin we saw victims family member coming together for a privat event. there was a ceremony and right now you are hearing th applause behind me and you mentioned that the bells tol the exact time on that first bomb went off. this is kind of how they are coming together and the city - >> kathy i think those bells are ringing now, let's take listen as we await the beginning for a moment o silence. 2:49 pm when the first bom went off [bell ringing]
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♪ ♪ ♪ we thank you for joining us on boston day as we remember an reflect on april 15th, 2015. thank you for joining us and a special thank you to bosto pops and boston city's anger tour choir for performing this afternoon. >> america beautiful some ther after the moment of silence at 2:49 pm on that first bomb wen off. ten years ago, to the day an to the moment where thre people lost their lives, a 2 year old woman, a 29-year-ol woman, an eight-year-old boy who would in fact be 18 year old today and over 200 peopl
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injured from that boston marathon bonding want to bring in kathy par back into the situation. really setting chills up you spine kathy thinking back to that moment ten years ag today. this historic run, histori marathon, in the city of bosto happening again this comin monday and elizabeth warre there as well. listening to that moment o silence and of course americ being some right after, it muc of the crowd getting emotional >> yes, absolutely yasmin. it really is a show of force here in boston i have to say speak it was people who are directl impacted by that tragic day, s much could actually came out o such a dark period for boston. so many foundations were created. the norman brothers for example, each of them lost a leg bu interim, they turn their traum into paying it forward b creating a foundation, helping other amputees we spoke with michelle blackburn yesterday. she was a spectator, cheerin
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on a friend. she was 25 years at the time right by the finish line whe the bomb she said was a fe yards away went off. she said in less than an hour, she was rushed to the hospital and she was on an operatin table and the medica responders, doctors are able t save her leg she was planning on actually running the marathon on monday but she said a new entry hel her back she said she is still fighting and she said that fighting spirit kind of happened te years ago after the boston marathon bombing and all of th support and love that sh received throughout her healin journey. >> i have to tell you it's incredible to see, incredibl to see so many people turnin out their commemorating te years since the day. the race itself, i have done i myself, it's an incredible marathon to run. if you are lucky to have don it and i wish the best for all of the runners out there and o course for the families that are continuing to create after such an awful tragedy. kathy, thank you for being there for us we appreciate. it much more on the other side
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