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i'll be back tomorrow. some answers are now greetings everyone, you ar watching simone. this is a big week and the assault on women's bodil autonomy from supreme court to stat legislators and relentless efforts to chip away at access to abortion care, even in blue states i'm talking to governor jake and say of washington's date about how he is fighting bac for what he calls an issue o freedom. donald trump is spending mor time dealing with his lega problems lately, giving second deposition in new yor and this time, he actually answered questions but he is fighting progress and othe investigations it is really hard to keep them all straight so we will brea it down for, you don't worry plus now that the expel that tennessee lawmakers are back i action, they have a lot of wor to be done for the democracy that they are fighting for we will take a look at wha is next the movement they have inspired i am symone sanders-townsend and i have something to say.

it's been a very busy week all we start with the continue assault on women's ability t make decisions about our own bodies today, people rallied across the country for the right to have abortions that ryka change in just a few days because a little over a week ago, a federal judge in texas issued a preliminary ruling invalidating the fda' 23 year old approval of th abortion pill, mifepristone. this was nothing short o devastating. the ruling effectively ban mifepristone and further restrict abortion access in ou country, even in states wher abortion is protected. now less than an hour afte that, ruling a judge i washington state issued contradictory ruling in anothe case, ordering the fda not t make changes to mifepristone access the justice department immediately appealed the rulin

from the judge in texas to a higher court, the fifth circui and on wednesday, those judges concluded that the guy in texa was not wrong. -- the fifth circuit order di block the texas judge' decision to ban mifepristone outright, citing the statute o limitations but beyond that, all they agreed with everythin else including requiring multiple doctor visits t obtain the drug and banning it from being sent through th mail so as a result to ensure tha pregnant people in this countr have access to lifesavin medicine, the bide administration appealed again. this, time it went all the way up to the supreme court. and yesterday, justice alito responded and temporaril restored full access t mifepristone that does not mean that th battle is over you can see here, in his order that alito state that lowe courts ruling for just a few days until this coming wednesday at 11:59 pm to be exact after, that the high court's conservative majority coul still rule in favor of nationwide restrictions on

mifepristone millions of americans coul lose access to essential healt care, some are at risk of dyin because of it. the real life fear and dange of the government continuing t try and tell us what we can an cannot do with our own bodie is still very much here in 2023 thankfully, the coordinate offense on that right to choos has been out with some coordinated defense. democratic governors across th country have responded swiftly to the recent attacks on reproductive rights, for example of washington's that who was the first of man states to stockpil mifepristone almost two weeks ago democratic governor jake and sly bought 40,000 doses of tha drug enough to go around for abou four years other states, they follow suit almost immediately massachusetts, new york, california, maine, the list is growing as we speak. these proactive moves to protect reproductive rights, they are absolutely important. this past january, governo ainsley explain exactly why. >> you know political theate

aside, i don't see any, an world in which washington' they changes course on thi issue. >> i will say this in respectful way, what world are you living in? there is a party in our stat that wakes up every single morning trying to take awa this right from women. >> washington state governor jay inslee joins me now. thank you very much for bein here sir let's just start where you lef off. the people and washington state, they are not immune from the assault on abortion rights and access to care because you are the governor >> nobody, no woman is saf while the republican party i at large right now tried to take away this issu of freedom and this is a matte of freedom this is the ultimate issue o freedom in america today, to think that any politician ca order any woman to have forced pregnancy is th ultimate and inclusion of th most intimate, the most an factual thing, your own body

your own family life this is the largest insult o freedom that we can imagine an we can't depend on the judicia system, that's why we acte early in my state to buy the mifepristone so we stockpiled it, now there is some good news here though, no matter what happens to this texas court case, even if th supreme court, even if the trump court would to affirm it we still cannot deliver this product in washington save because of our state laws. that is why we stockpiled it to make sure that we can produce and protect this freedom using mifepristone and the state of washington. >> so governor, when did i actually - what was the moment that becam clear to you that stockpilin mifepristone was necessary i this moment? well, when we saw a decision drop in the texas court, w know that the trump court have women in the bull's-eye of taking away this freedom right

if you look at the court, trum appointee in texas, it was not based on science it was not based on medicine it was not based o pharmaceutical facts, it was simply based on ideology to try to appeal this narrow band of americans. it is a narrow band. this is a 70 30 issue in the vast majority of americans almost every state believe tha this right should not be taken away, for women. as soon as we saw that a imminent, we acted and we go it into our hands within about three or four days and we had it in our hands before the court order and tha is why it was important. and as long as we have done ou possession, we can distribut it to the health clinics under our state law. now i am hopeful that the cour and there still is som possibility, even in the trump court will understand that the republican party is in great trouble right now because they are on the wrong side of america. they are starting to feel th heat, that is why they are certain and they had desanti

signed this antiabortion bill, that - they will not talk about i because they know they are wrong. they know they are contrary to the vast majority of americans so even the trump supreme cour may want a pass on this one, but even if we get a goo ruling out of the supreme court, the republicans will still com back like in idaho where i idaho, in the adjoining stat the legislature is trying to impede on a woman's ability to cross state lines to enjoy a legal right in the state o washington i don't think that they ca come into washington and control what is legal or not illegal in washington, tha will not stand so we have to be creative in vigilant as the price of freedom is here. >> you know governor, you talk about these dueling cases, obviously texas and the ruling out of washington state an then what the supreme cour will do. before we go to idaho, wha will you do if the supreme court issues a decision next week that ends up siding wit

the texas judge or let's say the fifth circuit? >> we will distribute th product because unde washington law, we are allowed to distribute this product eve if it does not have fd approval that's sounds a little strange but it is the law and th supreme court decision would not contravene that law. this is the reason w stockpiled it. because once it's in our possession, the fda does not have authority to preempt or overcome our washington stat law. the supreme court decision wil not affect our ability to move forward, but i'm so glad tha our tierney general, bob ferguson did win an injunction to essentially stop the fd from repealing this approval that applies in 18 states. so i'm glad that we have, that the knobsby other 17 states an some say we are alread protected because of the ability to distribute this product.

but one way or another, this i a rallying cry to all of us wh believe in this that we have t vote we have to vote on this issu because in every race in america today, this is an issu from state legislatures, t governors, to u.s. and others, to presidents. it's up to us to protect thi freedom right. we can't depend on the trump courts >> governor inslee, did yo ever and i mean obviously it worked in democratic politic for a very long time, and year and a half ago, i would even argue two years ago i don't think anyone would'v thought that a democrati governor in america would have uttered the sentence that yo just uttered right now urging folks to go out and vot and that democratic governor themselves thought tha abortion was an issue that the could win. >> oh well listen, i don't loo at this through an electoral lens that is not the reason i tak this position. it is something my wife treaty and i have believed in decades when i first ran for congress, iran in the very, re republican district in eastern

washington one of the first commercials that iran was expressing m poor choice believes and i won a tremendous upset this is where the heart of the american people are, i don't say this because if electora advantage. as it because i believe this i an ultimate freedom issue. and i know some of these republican politicians you know i get along with them in some sense. there is not one singl republican senator and there i not one single republica governor, who ought to b ordering one single american woman in any state to have a forced pregnancy they are not that wise, they are not that divine and they are not empowered by in my belief, our system o government to order a woman to carry a pregnancy. that is just a fundamental belief of mine >> governor, i would also sa they are not my doctor okay? anybody else's doctor. >> that's right. >> we are out of time, sir but i want to leave the people wit this because you talked abou idaho. idaho recently passed a bill

that the governor signed tha essentially tries to tell yo and other states what you al can do they have criminalized someone leaving the state, minor without getting permission fro their parent to get an abortio going to another state irritated letter to th governor of idaho. we will put a piece of that up on the screen for folks but thought that your words an this were so poignant an profound you said that we will protec our providers and we wil harbor and cover your resident who seek health care service that are denied to them in idaho. governor inslee, i would venture to say that like idaho you might be ready to give comfort and harbor to lots o folks from across the country. washington state governor, jay ainsley, we appreciate you sir your time and i appreciate it. >> you bet >> next folks, i have somethin to say about the fightin consequences of what i jus discussed with governor inslee this crusade against reproductive freedoms since le dobbs decision florida's new six-week abortio

ban, it is just another exampl of the assault on our right to make decisions about our own bodies we will also get into th supreme court okay there are calls for oversigh and they are getting louder in the wake of those ne revelations about justic clarence thomas. but first, y'all know who it is my bestie, my colleague richar lui with today's other top new stories. hey richard. >> hey simone, good saturday t you. some of the stories we'r watching for this hour president biden back in th u.s. after wrapping up a diplomatic trip in ireland the white house official telling nbc news while i county on friday, biden ru into the priesthood gave las writes to his son beau the president gave emotional a the chance encounter, th official said. jack teixeira, the massachusetts air national guardsmen trench friday with leaking classified documents feared federal authorities wer on to him days before hi apprehension court documents show he has charges carry a maximum of ten years behind bars attorney general merrick garland saying the defense department is in the midst o reviewing quote the methods of access accountability an

control procedures regarding sensitive material and the city of boston today marks a decade since the 201 marathon bombing that killed three people there were prayers for the victims and activities t demonstrate the communitie resilience, spirit and the 127th running of the bosto marathon takes place on monday more simone for you right afte this break ♪ ♪ ♪♪

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was leaked i told people tha we were living into modern-day handmaid's tale. you know people such me? oh, that's a little hyperbolic isn't it well, i've come to tell you still stand by what i said because here we are. there is a chance that by th summer, if the recently signed six-week abortion ban take effect in florida, a woman who lives in the south won't b able to get the care she needs due to the abortio restrictions across that region right now, north carolina an south carolina are two exceptions, but even in thos states, they're already bill on the table that woul endanger a woman's right - ability to make decisions abou her own body a proposal in north carolina it would ban abortion in the state unless it was necessar to say a mother's life in south carolina, there's a proposal that could make abortion a crime punishable by death. this is not just business as usual, this is not just political opportunity fo people like ron desantis t solidify their base, the bills

moving through state legislatures are resulting i real life consequences for women. we are not just talking abou the south you, because republicans, they're trying to control the rights of women to make their decisions about their bodies around th country. google the word abortion, an idaho or nebraska, o wisconsin. i recently joined my colleague chuck todd and meet the pres now, and we talked about republicans and their lack o consensus policy on the issu of abortion. during that conversation republican strategist bret todd said something i just couldn't believe hear for yourself. >> i understand, it just isn't reality. reality is 65% of this country once roe v. wade >> you have to ask what time you have to ask about, we're gonna sort this out in thi country. maybe state by state, probably won't be done in washington, i don't think. i don't think what the democrats or republicans won can reach a consensus.

it's probably gonna be don state by state i don't know about that. we're gonna end up with portugal like ten-week restriction, arena and with new zealand like 20 week decision i hope we don't end up in nort korea. >> especially, what he said wa america will work it out well, america's working it out women and doctors are bein threatened with jail time an find children are expected to hav babies by their rapists. this is not what republicans campaigned on, but this is exactly what is happening. legislating woman's bodies has always been the underlying desire of the people who wante to overturn roe. cruelty was always the point roe was overturned, the righ to have an abortion, it wa kickback to the state. as a black woman in america, i have a lot of feelings about just letting the states decide the reality is this. the current position america it is untenable. the rules are changing daily

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the manhattan district attorne last month, former president donald trump seems to be feeling a little bit more heat from the multipl investigations he is facing. he was back in new york on thursday, for the othe investigation that is underway there. the former president set for a

second deposition for th investigation and to the trump organization's finances. he sat unanswered questions fo eight hours and according to new york attorney genera trisha james's office, the former president spoke a lot you may remember that in the first deposition, he pleaded the fifth more than 400 times. and yesterday, trump asked a appeals court in washington, d.c. in a separate case to black former vice presiden mike pence from testifying i the justice department's investigation into january six special counsel jack smith als revealed his office is not onl looking into attempts to reverse the 2020 electio results, but also the mone that was made in the process the grift so to speak, his office is now pressing witnesses to quote determine a former president donald trum or his advisors gambit donor by using false claims abou voter fraud to raise money scamming or in legal terms wire fraud and jack smith other investigation, that's the on concerning classified document that were found at mar-a-lago,

the doj was reportedly askin whether lawyers for witnesse were being paid by trump super pac. investigators want to know i those lawyers coerce witnesses and to changing thei testimony. which i do think a legal terms as witness tampering, an thereby obstruction of justice but i am not the legal exper honey, i used to be th spokesperson so if this is making it, is you don't worr we have the right people t break it all down. joining us now are rober mcclain, a former u.s. attorne and now an msnbc legal analyst and anthony kollie is here, th former spokesperson for th justice department okay so my legal experts are here the a bragg received another threatening later this week. robert, can and even will that play a role once all goes to trial? >> likely not simone, if it is coming from some third-party that's one of the things tha will be very difficult here. the judge in this case asked donald trump to refrain from making any statements that might stoke civil unrest

and although ultimately, the judge could put a gag order on donald trump to try and preven him from saying things, he doe not control all of the other people out there who might b saying things and egging peopl on, so i think that this wil be a real challenge in thi case but nonetheless, alvin bragg i think has to have the courag to see it through. it is one of the things that makes it a particularl challenging case i imagine we look at other threats. the threats themselves perhaps can be prosecuted but if trump is not the one who is making the threat, then it's unlikely to come up in his trial. >> okay, so in that case of al of the things that jackson a this working on, anthony as former spokesperson, and you know the thing that everybod wants to know is what can yo tell us about the case when will it be over and i could only imagine tha something hanging out there is will jack summer investigations, which one will wrap up first? what do you think as mos likely what should people at home nee to know about maybe we need to

all pumped the brakes? >> here is why it's so great about this moment that we ar and right. now we see in case after cas after case, where judges are not agreeing with trump' decision to assert executive o attorney-client privilege. what does that mean in practice? this means that the, seeds o the justice department planted many months, ago even before jack smith was special counsel or beginning to bear fruit so i suspect what even jus this week, i should say simone that too high ranking whit house officials apparently appear in front of a grand jury, presumably to talk about donal trump -- >> trump white house officials >> to talk about presumabl trump's state of mind. what does that mean for jack smith? it means that his investigatio is moving forward as aggressively as he said it would. and this is important becaus he has this charge to pursue

justice, without fear or favor that needs following the facts wherever they go and hopefully my hope is that he could still use the mood for expeditiously as the courts would allow him. >> so barbara, one of th expeditious things that is now coming out as the wire fraud piece. can you just lay out for folks why one, just why this could b significant or a big part of this probe that the specia counsel now has into forme president, donald trump? >> yes you may remember during the january six hearings, we heard so lofgren the congresswoman from californi talk about this a little bit and one of the hearings. and this appears recently base on reports to have picked up some momentum in the jacks mit investigation. and this is based on fundraising that donald trum did it after the election an before january six for a defense election fund, on th basis of false claims of a

stolen election. he raised money so wire frau is a federal crime the statute requires proof tha someone used a wir transmission, so could be in a melee website, as part of scheme to defraud others and so if it was based on a lie, based on a lie of a false frau and an election or based on ho they intended to use the money at the end of the day, the were raising money for something called the electio defense fund, which apparently did not exist. that could be a crime of wir fraud. >> isn't it a lie though bars? i am sorry to interrupt you, don't we know that it is a lie >> oh i think we do know tha it's a lie but you have to prove that donald trump knew a the time he made the statement that it was a lie. so i think it is very likely t bear fruit, but you would have to show that evidence. you know in the old words of george costanza of seinfeld, i you believe, it it's not a lie

>> [laughter okay, will i will be waiting with baited breath to find out what happens or i want to switch gears here and talk about the tennessee legislators who were reinstate this week, representativ pierson, representative jones. now i've been beating a drum here anthony, i just reall feel like there is a role fo the justice department to play here should that be investigating what is happening in tennessee and say legislatures across th country? >> i have watched this case, interview that you did with hi last week. i mean it was really exceptional and it reminds m when john luiz talks about goo trouble. i have to think this has wha he had it mine these are two, three individuals who are really saying that you know, politics as usual is not working in thi moment i would hope if there is a rol for the justice department t play here, i don't know that there is but if there, is i am sure that they will look int it >> i, mean barr but maybe yo tell me, why wouldn't there be

a role for the justice to play here we have seen, i don't thin that's a remedy to racia injustice or discriminatio front want to sail with th legislators got their seat back they should not have bee expelled in the first place. what about a private practic investigation under the su rights division? is that something that can happen here? i don't know if it's ever been used in the case of a stat legislature before but treasur things have happened >> yes i don't think it ha been used before, i think it's a possibility when there is pattern among constitutional activities taking place by a government meant body. it's a possibility i would be very surprise though to see the u.s. government get involved in the state legislature because of issues of federalism and separation of powers was this racist? absolutely was it a blatant abuse of power? absolutely but i don't know that it violates a criminal offense. and so i think one of th things that could be, the most

effective outcome here is th amount of public attention tha this has received as a resul of their expulsion and reinstatement. and so what the moral monday and other kinds of rallies are using to dry attention to this fact, it could very well b that the representatives hav been more effective and thei protest on their civil disobedience and the resulting penalty that was a complet overreaction to what they were doing to demonstrate the injustice that they ar enduring in tennessee. >> i have more questions unlucky for, me barbara you an anthony are sticking aroun because we also have more to discuss. next, we will get into the revelations that justice clarence thomas excepted guest from a billionaire republica donor and it has many people asking again, is it time for o four set of the justic system's unique power to affec our lives? to severe rheumatoid arthritis symptoms. with my psoriatic arthritis symptoms. but just ok isn't ok.

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to justice clarence thomas i just a moment. but first barbara, i have follow-up question about wha we were just discussing before we went to that break abou pattern and practice investigations i found what you said so interesting. why is there or not, i mea what is the difference between the texas state legislature an what happened there and th justice department stepping in and any number of police apartments in this country looking into them in a pattern of practice investigations and

then entering into consent t crease there is not this is fairl criminality, there what is the difference >> yes i think it's a grea reluctance, it's not that it's impossible, it's a great reluctance to interfere in the legislative process. and as why that draft letter that jeffrey clark prepared an wanted the justice departmen to send out to georgia recommending that they reconvene their legislatures for the purpose of votin alternate slates of electors and the 2020 election is s appalling for anybody who ha worked at the justic department there is a real reluctance t interfere and the activities o another branch of government especially one that is in th state as opposed to th federal. it's not an impossible, task i could happen at then they would be very reluctant to go down that road and that they would be mor inclined to look for other remedies, political remedies perhaps are more appropriate than what we saw in this case? >> see, barbara knew who the answer and that's why i just had to ask well now we need to go and tal about justice clarence thoma and action want to play for,

folks something that justice thomas said a few years back about the supreme court, liste to this. >> the court was thought to be the lace dangerous brands an we may have become the mos dangerous. i think a lot of it is our own doing and i think the threat are we have lost the capacity, even i think as leaders to not allow others to manipulate our institutions when we don't get the outcomes that we like. >> now, look no secret that th united states supreme court ha enormous power i mean establishing marriage equality as a law of the land. all the way to ripping away woman's right to choose. there is not a person in america at thinkers life has not been affected by the supreme court rulings but th spite the insistence of th court that's above politics, this particular court is subject to very little accountability it's the only bunch in the

united states with no bindin code of ethics now there are calls for heavie supreme court oversight, thi rolling and this i particularly afternoon formations come to light about the relationship between justice clarence thomas an billionaire republican, an megadonor harley crow. according to propublica, thomasville to disclose decades, decades underlined it of luxur travel from crow, vacationin with him on a super yacht an flying on his private jet. both thomas and crow hav denied any wrongdoing. tom is saying, quote i was advised that the sort of personal hospitality from clos friends, close personal friend who did not have busines before the court was not reportable but brand new reporting from propublic reveals it was not just travel crow bought more than $100,000 worth of property from justice thomas and his family, a transaction thomas did not disclose process you wanted to turn the property into a museum and moralizing thomas. thomas's failure to disclose should be a violation of federal law which requires

officials, including supreme court justices to disclose rea estate sales over $1,000 and i would know, i think as a mother still lives in this house, barbara mcquade, anthon kollie, you guys are with me now. anthony, i would start with yo because this propublic reporting, let me just say i a not against people with rich friends who have planes a hone but if average friend with a plan, i want to get on it bu i'm not a supreme cour justice. >> that's right if you, do you have to disclose that if you are supreme court justice. those are what the rules say and listen the fact of the matter, is anita hill told u about clarence thomas. this is not the first time tha he has been accused of breakin the rules. it's just this, time he is not getting away with it here's what i think will happe over the course of the nex several days because this is such a egregious violation of federal financial disclosure rules i would not be surprised if he updated this financial disclosure to reflect thes transactions it's important to note her that this particular propert has previously been included o

his financial disclosure both the property itself and interest that he is earned fro the property so it's a bit disingenuous for him to sell the property t whomever and not disclose th sale >> oh okay, barbara then a what point does this crossed the line from an ethical problem to a legal problem >> well you'd have to show simone, he was doing this to accept something that wa inappropriate. if for example, he was takin an official act in exchange fo these gifts, ruling in a particular way in a case, in exchange for these gifts, that would be a legal problem that could be a crime and of course the way to remove a supreme court justice as through and peach meant. they can be impeached and then criminally prosecuted as wel for accepting a bribe. i think we are a long ways fro that but with so damaging abou this is anthony points out i it's all about this closure. it creates at least th

perception of a conflict o interest you know i have good friends, have dear friends of justice thomas likes to say but they shouldn't give me things lik buying my house an refurbishing it at no cost they don't get me trips, fin it stretch to new zealand or indonesia for me you have to ask yourself, what is it about this relationshi that causes harlan crow to spend so lavishly on his frien clarence thomas? it's because they want to se him come out certain ways an certain cases? and so even that access, i think it's problematic and ought to be disclosed so tha the public at least have confidence that they know wh the justice are spending tim with >> that's, right the problem here if we have time is that the situation highlights the lack of checks and balance with the supreme court and the judicial branch in particular. you and i both work in the executive branch there are inspectors general and expected or branch and you also of congressiona

oversight. >> i also could've taken, cannot roberts made a good point. we have friends, we all do i don't have friends of the plane, if i did i would be on it no but when i worked at the white house, if i would've taken any of the kinds of gifts if you will that justice thomas had, would've been reprimanded an quite possibly lost my job >> that's exactly, right the likes of checks and balances here that is why the situation ha the supreme court cannot polic itself and so there needs to be a enforceable code of ethics tha has teeth. because we see, love to thei own devices, we are going to b faced with situations like w are faced with right now >> i think it's an important point, barbara a code of ethic with teeth, i think that thi important part here. you mention that only once has the supreme court, how the supreme court justices removed is impeachment that's only happened once in our history, samuel chase. 1805 i think an impeachment o thomas in this republica

-controlled house, that is how and peach mint procedures, processes start in the house i very unlikely. but what would teeth look like it sounds like that is a rol for the justice department t play >> yes i think it could be a number of things it could be from center to find true criminal prosecutions but it would be an interesting scenario because of th separation of powers, problems and then the same way sittin president cannot be charge with a crime, i think there is an argument that a sitting supreme court justice may also not be chargeable with a crime it might have to go impeachmen first and then a crimina charge i think with teeth what yo could have is disclosures, centers fines and other kind of reprimands that could expos us to the public and would cause a house to impeach o their failure to impeach could create political issues for th members of the house who are allowing this to go on so i think that is a way tha we can see some accountability in the country and at some

point, the public should and would demand the impeachment o a supreme court justice who is acting so not only unethically but criminally >> well in 18 oh, five the justice that was impeach samuel chase was impeached but he kept his job because that ladies and gentlemen is now th process shutdown barbara mcquade and anthon kelly, thank you both very much the wealth of knowledge this afternoon. i for 1 am grateful, appreciat your time. >> after the break folks thousands have rallied i tennessee against gun violence and the apparent racism that's working expulsion of two black state lawmakers by the republican majority. up next we have one of the organizers who is doing th work, and the movement on th ground in tennessee. tequila johnson of the equit alliance joins me live, stay with us.

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government the story is not over an hou folks because although pearson and jones are back at work, th pair still have to run in special election later thi year if they want to keep thei seats for the rest of the term it's crazy with thousands of young people mobilizing and tennessee ove these issues, the electora landscape in tennessee could see a major shift. we saw the impact young voters had on last year's midterms, the tennessee republicans to not get the message? here to discuss is the cofounder and vice president o the equity alliance tequil johnson. it is very nice to see you thank you so much for coming o today. i was on the ground in nashville and i was there th day after the expulsions to si down with the all three of lawmakers not known as the tennessee three. i felt and i saw the energy on the ground i saw that young people. what is the tone and tenor o the ground now >> i mean the energy aroun this movement has definitely been ignited or reignited.

i will give you a story. last, week when i sat down wit my team of organizers to map out prior to, this to map ou what goals we wanted to set. we base them off of the last two years of organizing nominee people we have bee able to register to vote how many people we have been able to sign our commitment to vote plan. and so we created our metric based off of that. it lasted three, days my organizers were able to hi their metrics. and, fact in nashville w exceeded our voter registratio goal not just for the quarter simone not just for the week before the year. we have already hit our ears voter registration goals so republicans thought it was game, as representative jone said we are now in the find ou portion. >> how are you going to keep those folks involved tequila because you have directl connected the expulsions t republican fears about black voter participation. it seems to me that now thos fears should be amplified give the numbers that you just told

us how will you keep those folk engaged and involved >> we'll know it's some to tak that energy that pearson and jones and lawyer johnson mobilized and actually organiz them during the protest, we had wha we call our vote mob and the mob since for more, belies organize and build power they were out at every actio with q r coats, clipboards backpacks, just old-school voter registration oh score organizing style, collecting as much information and data as possible we are now looking to put abou 100 organizers on the ground this year across the state t one register as many people as we can two, to build up our voter education program, the liberty collective that we have retrain people on actually becoming organizers, sitting o boards and commissions and running for office and, three we will make sure these people get to the polls. i mean it is not a, game the literally lit a fire under a movement that we thought had died down.

>> you are describing a mode in tennessee, i don't know i you know my friend don't wan to thompson of woke folks. and i have, i see what happens when investments are made, particularly in places where folks don't usually invest i turning out black voters push the cell, we are road places and i see what happen when people but money on the ground in those communities. do you feel like you guys ar getting the support that you need and i would also ask about legislation. people are engaged and involve because they saw what happened but are you all looking fo legislation to come out of this? something to address the fact, by the lawmakers and why the were protesting in the first place? >> absolutely, representativ johnson and senator oliver hav already filed a gun contro legislation. hopefully, we will see our lawmakers move and take action on that. but as far as resources, kno there has not been an influx o resources and tennessee, and

particularly to organization on the ground. you know shot to don't want to have been on here on the ground helping advise an really serving as a mentor t me in this time because ther is so many different relationships and things t navigate that if you are in state like tennessee that ha not seen infrastructural investment in over ten years it can be a little bit overwhelming and a lot t really cipher in between we are now going from being movement that was fueled by ou movement as terms of the equit alliance, has been filled by individual donations on th ground in tennessee. and now they're gonna exposure from national entities and it' not and nowhere near enough to really make the impact or to capture the excitement but w are seeing some movement >> all right tequila johnson, thank you for coming on today. i think it's very important fo people to see the folks who ar doing the work on the ground and my sister, we see you. appreciate your time >> thank you sister, thank you

for having the simone. >> and thank you at home for watching symone on thi saturday i hope you learned a little bit, i am symone sanders-townsend and you can catch me right her on msnbc weekends at 4 p eastern and anytime over on th peacock where i have new episodes on the msnbc hub ever monday make sureyou tune in tomorrow, you don't want to miss it united states under amy klobuchar will join me here in studio i will also speak with tennessee state representative justin j. pearson. he was just reinstated to th state house earlier this week, we will talk about what is nex in the movement that he ha helped inspire up next, fox you politicsnation with the grea reverend al sharpton and he is going to interview transportation secretary pet buttigieg. coming up right after the, break i know i will be glued t my tv at my desk p driven, multi-cloud world. that's why you choose vmware. with flexible multi-cloud services that enable digital innovation and enterprise control, vmware helps you keep your cloud options open.

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