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it is report card time the maga-controlled house just marked its first 100 days in power. democratic congressman gre casar is here to help us great their work plus, double trouble special counsel jack smith's investigations into trump ar both ramping up, and his forme top aides are finall testifying before granaries. then, a worst of the wee first. ted cruz makes his debut

appearance facing off agains lindsey graham who's gonna take the top spot? i am ayman mohyeldin let's get started. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> bear with me here for a moment, professor ayma mohyeldin has some grading t do this week, kevin mccarthy an the maga-controlled hous marked 100 days in power, 10 days of score settling for right virtue signaling, an circus like hearings at a pace that would put the wrangling brothers to shame. it has been such a hectic 10 days that it is easy to forget that all the individua episodes of bedlam the gop unleashed in the holes o congress just a few short months ago, house republicans required a excruciating 15 ballots to elect kevin mccarthy a speaker. that is unheard of in modern american politics. as a consequence of that, part disunity, desperate concession had to be made to the most extreme members of the

republican caucus, the likes o marjorie taylor greene, lauren boebert, matt gates, and others, they leverage the situation to secure mark committe assignments and increase their influence in the caucus. and that is where the real chaos began. it's one of mccarthy's first actions as speaker was to stri representatives eric swalwell, adam schiff, ilhan omar of certain community assignments. and that has been the 12 punch of kevin mccarthy's tenure empowering the far-right allies, subverting the democrati process. consider jim jordan' weaponization subcommittee which was allegedly supposed t produce evidence that american conservatives are victims of a vast federal plot to suppres their freedoms instead, the panels hearings have devolved into conspirac elated therapy sessions for grieved right wingers. and then, there is the highest oversight committee chaired by a friend of this show, at leas one of our favorites, jame comer, a republican who ha been quite vocal about his desire to investigate and take down the bidens, while als

shutting down vali investigations into trump an his family now, let's be fair here for moment, before going t properly grade the maga-controlled house, we ca just focus on how badly th committees have devolved, we should look at the work they are doing for the people you know, the actual legislation there crafting, th real work. and lo and behold, there i been almost no substantive legislation passed by the gop. instead, mccarthy holds vote on absurd things, messagin bills, denouncing socialism, and condemning critical race theory that really have no chance of becoming law, and do nothing to solve the actua problems the american people are facing and guess what the next 100 days, well, thing are not looking great 14 mag either we have just seven weeks t raise the debt limit or risk cataclysmic economic consequences and house republicans appear n closer to a possible deal an then back in january

so, if we're going to grade th first 100 days of the maga -controlled house, well, tha rate is pretty low and this professor has littl faith that is going to improve as time goes on. joining me now is democratic congressman greg casar o texas. congressman, it's great to hav you back on the show thank you so much for making time for us. i wanted, and i imagine your expectations probably were not very high like mine were, bu has anything particularl disappointed you in the past 100 days what grade would you give hous republicans? >> well, the house republicans certainly get a death, doubl minus, on delivering for a minute american people but as you point out, they ver clearly haven't said that as their goal and, so even though it's not going well for them, we have t work doubly hard to make sur they don't achieve their goals one of which is to try t instill despair an hopelessness and the community and we know hopelessness is th greatest enemy of justice. they want to keep making folks

despair with these messaging make us feel like we can't mak any change, make folks fee like government is so broken why even participate we can't let them do that. and then, second, as you noted speaker mccarthy is giving the keys to the car to the marjori taylor greene faction of tha republican party, an threatening to drive the car straight to the global economy costing people millions of job and untold economic sufferin if we don't do what they want, which is cut critical programs like social security, medicaid medicare, head start, and snap these are incredible program that we want and built as democracy. we want to grow them, and we can't get into negotiating and compromising with folks that are holding the entire economy for ransom >> let me ask you on how i looks like from the inside i mean, you're on the hous oversight committee. you've witnessed just how much of a circus chairman james comer's hearings have become what can you tell us i mean, you know, outsiders, are we getting it wrong? is there any misconception is there any important wor that's actually being done

>> this is a critica committee. it used to be chaired by legendary texas congressma jack brooks, who wrote the impeachment proceedings fo nixon, investigating watergate made sure government trying to effectively and efficiently. he was called the meanest me and congress, even though he was a nice guy, but it was because he had no patience for grifters and people that i used government power an dollars. it's an incredible power but when the horrible trai crash happened in east palestine, james comer wante to investigate the biden administration, but didn't wan to call in the ceo of norfol southern when we had a hearing abou fentanyl, he didn't want t talk about addiction counselin or treatment for folks, or addressing the public health crisis of fentanyl they wanted to blame this on immigrants, which even the mos conservative border patrol chief said, it's not immigrant that are trafficking fentany into the country they just don't take i seriously because they are

really pandering to fox news i'm recognizing, you asked m take on the inside, i'm readin bills. they're watching fox news, and they're trying to play the oversight committee for fox. >> let me ask you about th debt ceiling for a moment, i the showdown, has everyone o notice edge, how nervous are you that house republicans can actually lead us to default? i mean, is there any opportunity to get their grade up >> i think the american people have to create an environmen where the people lead and th politicians follow now, we saw a similar situatio when it seems like the house republicans want to march to shred the affordable care ac or obamacare but people came to the capitol folks went and make sure tha this was on local news they were talking about it i churches they were talking about it wit their families and obamacare was saved. we need a similar moment for snap and foreheads start and for public housing and for social security. we need to create such a publi outcry that ultimately, if the

democrats are able to hold together, we're able to pull a few republicans and, they have a very narrow majority, an keep the global economy afloat but also make sure that thes programs that we've won over centuries of organizing ar able to hold, and then hopefully, we win a hous majority back, and are able to expand medicare and medicaid t cover more people rather tha contracting those key programs >> congressman, let me get you thoughts about what's happenin in your home state of texas. it's been in the news for number of reasons. first, your reaction to th ruling judge kacsmaryk's rulin on mifepristone? >> texas has previously been o the forefront of expanding abortion rights. it was here in austin, texas where i'm sitting, where a 2 something year old lawyer name sarah weddington sued the state, to never get a case to trial before, one in front of th supreme court, and one roe v wade, winning abortion right for the whole country. and i believe it's up to peopl in the south to bring that back, and not accept a lone judge, a

one right-winger judge in texa taking safe and effectiv medication off the shelves i mean, what are they gonn come for next? i agree with wha representative ocasio-cortez and others have said that we the biden administration, we want them to continue to stand strong do not just appeal their case, but to do everything in thei power to not let a judge abuse their power and see such contempt for democracy and judicial wrote that's why we need to expand the supreme court and, gerrymandering, and citizens united, and bring power back t the legislative branches o government that's responsive t the people >> let me get your thoughts on greg abbott here this week, we also learned about the man, governor abbott has said he wants to pardon, o at least try to facilitate a pardon for, a man who wa involved in the murder of black lives matter protester the newly revealed court documents now show daniel perr regularly shared racist meme and sent racist content an private messages

do you think greg abbott wil backtrack on his efforts t secure a pardon for him? >> ayman, there are no winners in a murder trial. greg abbott is trying to win political points off of this pardon just about a couple miles away from me is where this killin happened that was on the city council a the time, and it was really, really devastating and the challenging time and the jury deliberated o this case for two days after listening to two weeks worth o witnesses, and unanimously had a conviction for murder. and when tucker carlson went o tv and said governor abbot needs to pardon this perso because they shot a black live matter protester, governor abbott sprung into action, and issued this pardon and i think he's committed t that just like he's been committed to not springing int action on gun violence issue for the children in uvalde and those teachers that were killed he is the same governor that passed permit-less carry is the same governor tha

passed open carry, so that there's folks walking around with these weapons of war. these supposedly law and order republicans can never, again save an equal justice system or for public safety, or for accountability, after things like this pardon from governor abbott, after the attacks on the district attorney in manhattan that's going after donald trump for them, it is a la protecting me, but not a lot for the. >> congressman greg casar, thank you so much. greatly appreciate your time a always thanks for coming back on th show coming up, if donald trump has nothing to hide, then why does he keep trying to block people from testifying in front o grand juries make it to that and more but first, richard lui, is her with headlines hey, richard >> hey, ayman. very good saturday to you. university reached a tentative deal with faculty units to end in nearly weeklong strike. about 9000 faculty and graduat student workers went on strike monday they had a series of requests, including better job securit for adjunct professors classes expected to resume nex

week, according to schoo officials. at least 11 were killed and 21 injured after russian missiles struck a residential area in sloviansk, ukraine rescue teams are still searching for four people, i believe, and they're under the buildings rubble and france this presiden signed a controversial bil into law and it increases th state pension age from 62 to 64 the legislation was pushed through parliament without a final vote that prompted nationwide protests since january more ayman with ayman hymoeldi right after this break ♪ ♪ ♪ troducing astepro allergy. steroid-free allergy relief that starts working in 30 minutes, while other allergy sprays take hours. now with astepro fast allergy relief, [ spray, spray ] you can astepro and go. stop mike pence from testifyin

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before a grand jury in one o the federal probes is facing trump filed an appeal earlie this week and asked a cour yesterday to take immediat action and blocking pence' testimony in the special counsel's investigation into trump's efforts to overturn th 2020 election. of course, this is on brand fo the ex president trump has already tried to block other former aides fro testifying before the same grand jury, citing executive privilege. a federal appeals court ha since denied that emotion an some of those aides have begun testifying, including the like of stephen miller and trump' one-time director of nationa intelligence, john ratcliffe joining me now is my saturda night panel, hayes brown writer and editor at msnbc daily. we cynthia alksne, msnbc legal analyst. she is also former federal prosecutor and mike lyon, host of can w please talk broadcast.

great to have all of you wit us cynthia, i'll start with you given the appeals court speier dismissal of trump's motion, trying to block his former aides from testifying, wha chances does he have to no block pence's testimony, and what with this look like i this appeal work to go to th supreme court? >> he has zero chance. he will lose in a district court. and he lost in the distric court already. he will lose on appeal, and my conscience, the supreme cour will take it i would say slim to none, an slim has walked out the door >> all right, hayes, you thoughts on this i mean, we don't know th specifics of what trump' former aides are being asked but there are reports that federal prosecutors are lookin into whether, you know, th former president and his advisers scammed donors by using false claims of vote fraud to raise money, an specifically, they're lookin into the time period between november 2020 and of course th insurrection, and later in january 2021 >> yes, i think that there i

no chance that this appeal fro trump is going to have muc effect and i think that the special counsel's right to look in thi area because they were raising so much money during thi period and what jackson, the specia counsel will be looking at, is what where these aides sayin in private versus what the were telling people when the were making the fundraisin appeals. now, one of the most damning pieces of evidence that we'v had so far to the fact tha they were trying to commit fraud by trying to raise all thismoney was that trump had outside investigators look int the claim of fraud befor january, and was told directly by these investigators from th berkeley research center, if i believe, that there was no truth to these claims. and yet, they were still sending these fundraisin emails given what steve bannon ha been charged for in manhattan, and the manhattan court fo raising money to supposedl build, that was never going to

happen i do think that that is a very strong case for jack smith t make, eventually >> let's switch gears for moment to a different specia counsel probe, mike, the one folks are handling o classified documents investigators are also askin about whether the former president showed off a map t his aides and visitors wit sensitive intelligence information that he took whe he left office and as more information abou these investigations come out, we see the links that trum tried to maintain hi connection to the white house. what do you make of this, mike >> you know, ayman, first off, a great question and thank you for having m back on the program. you know, i've had a bunch o former federal prosecutors criminal defense attorneys, an even a former fbi special agen in charge of espionage on th program to talk about this and the common line through al of them was this special documents case, right? with respect to not only the amount of documents that the former president had in hi possession, but the fact tha

he's publicly gone o television, on sean hannity' program, saying he's declassified them in his mind, so he's entitled to then recently on a program on msnbc on meet the press, with todd one of trump's attorneys was talking about playing th whataboutism game as we always like to talk about here on thi show, saying that the former vice president and pence and biden when he was a vice president, both misclassifie documents. and at the time, i tweeted, if you are president trump righ now, your attorney is playin the whataboutism game in the court of public opinion, the you probably need new lega counsel. so, i think the big thing fo me with this, with respect t former president trump's case, and like i said, of all th people that i've talked to i the legal field about this this is the one with the mos teeth, right because i would refer to cynthia on all of this as well obviously. but i think this is the one of the most teeth because it has paper trail, and it ha contradictory statements fro the former president o television, on his truth socia platform and we know that there is, lik i said, a paper trail leadin

back to it was actually foun at the residence in mar-a-lago >> yes, and i remember recentl that interview that he did o fox were basically, by som people's analysis, confessed t taking these documents and saying that you're allowed t do that, and that i can do it. and cynthia, i want to ask about that we know that federal investigators have found evidence that shows trum looked through documents and moved boxes with thi classified material, after h was served a subpoena to tur it all over. as prosecutors move forward to mike's point in this investigation, what type o additional evidence might they need to charge trump wit obstruction here could the interviews that he's also done come back and haun him? >> sure, they can come back to haunt him. but the key evidence, we'll, first of all, let me just sa this -- the document section o the case, the espionage sectio of the case, that has to d with having the documents an self he basically needs a case, right? you stole the documents. we told you we wanted them back your promise to do it. you didn't do it you lied about we ask you then. you said - and we served him a subpoena

you lied again, and then w found them so, that part of the case is actually pretty easy, and read to go. and the obstruction case looks like it's also getting easie and ready to go, because the one thing we know is a federal judge has pierced the attorney client privilege on th obstruction issue with one o his lawyers. and now, we find out tonight and that the lawyer has recuse himself, evan corcoran, and yo don't recuse yourself unless you think there's an indictmen coming down the pipe and his testimony relates to the obstruction. so, not only do we have th documents part done, the obstruction has to do with corcoran, it has to do wit walt not, i don't know how t pronounce his last name, movin the documents, and the testimony that they have gathered that the presiden went to the documents and south, so he has the statements t sean hannity and his ranting o truth social could come in, too, but the heart of the soul of the case will be people at

mar-a-lago who know that h went to the documents and lied about it >> all right, panel, stick around, got a lot more t discuss. next, new complaints have been filed against clarence thoma after more allegations o wrongdoing have surface. ♪ ♪ ♪

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the sale the transaction marks the firs known instance of money flowin directly from the billionair into thomas's pockets. the shocking revelations com on the heels of last week' report, also from propublica that details how we -- on lavish trips for nearly 2 years without disclosing them. thomas has a parent -- has prompted understandabl outrage. senator sheldon whitehouse has called on the judicial conference to refer -- for a possible investigation citizens for responsibility an ethics in washington today watchdog nonprofit has filed a civil and criminal complaint against thomas, my panel i back with me hayes, thomas made many othe disclosures that year travel reimbursements, even a 500-dollar stained glass medallion, not the propert sale to harlan crow. what do you make of this >> i mean, one of the points that has been made many time

over the last week is that w expect the supreme court justice to be able to interpre really obscure, difficult, thorny laws, but his apparen excuses that he couldn't understand the ethical guidelines that were require of him that makes no sense. he has to have known that this is a transaction that should have been reported, and if thi is his argument, maybe h should be on the bench to this point. maybe he should consider retiring if he can't keep trac of those sorts of things in hi head i am just saying, there is n way that anyone who is in that position would not know that you have to disclose this sort of deal period >> the troubling thing for m is that propublica reports - after its report, slee confirmed that thomas's mother actually still lives at th house that is now owned an completely remodelled by crow.

i think, for my opinion, tha complicate things even further for the justice. this wasn't him selling th house and moving on, his mothe still lives in the house tha was paid for by pro. >> right and, they did $36,000 worth of improvements and the propublica asked thomas an asked crow, by the way, is she paying any rent? and crickets they aren't answering. what that leads my prosecuto knows to tell me is that no, she's not paying any rent. we'll wait and see about that. there isn't any question tha these are all things tha should have been reported, and we also know and - and we're not, and we also kno that some point during the tim to heal in this home, he reported it as a renta property so, it was appearing on hi forms, and then after he sol it, and naturally disappeare without any explanation. so, i don't think you can sa with a straight face that he

didn't know he was supposed to do this, of course you know. and he was hiding it he should be referred to the justice department, he has violated the law, he has ethically challenged, and he does not belong the suprem court. i don't think there's an question about that, and we al want dancer round it because w want to love the supreme court and revere like we did when we were younger, and it just does not deserve that kind of respect any longer >> yeah, i was gonna say a lot of us still think -- believe that the supreme court is above the mistakes that w are used to seeing in congress perhaps even in the executiv branch we always like to think it's the one last branch of government that has been pur and has not been corrupted , story go ahead >> all of these -- many of these justices in fo the american people and said i believe in roe - and led people to believe that roe v. wade was safe and the believe in the presidents, and the minute they have the votes

they took away woman's right t control their own body everybody who has a uterus i this country knows they rely to and now, to add to that, thi justice has been taking half 1 million dollar trips and pretending that he doesn't hav to report it, and he think that we're also stupid, that w can't figure out what he's doing. well, i'm not smart enough t be a supreme court justice, bu i'm smart enough to se corruption when it smacks me i the face >> yeah, i think i'm with yo on that one. mike, in a statement t propublica, crow said that h purchased thomas's trout hea home to preserve it fo posterity and said quote, my intention is to one day create a public museum at the thoma home, dedicate to tongue the story of our nation's second black supreme court justice. do you have any plans to participate -- clarence thomas museum i savannah georgia when and if i ever opens up? >> eamonn, i was thinking abou this when you're inviting me o the program tonight, because

i'm a fan. everybody knows that i'm areas fan. if i wasn't raiders fan, you saw the amount of raiders here of my house, it's akin to what harlan crow has in naz memorabilia. so, we need to start looking a things from a right and wron perspective, and not a orange-y perspective everybody should be on the sam side of this equation here because, at best, this i incredibly unethical injunctio propriety, and at worst it's a violation of the oath that justice thomas took, and h could be potentially compromised to vote in favor o the way someone telling him to vote -- coming our podcast this coming week, and he's been very vocal as well as other house and senate members like yo mentioned with sheldon whitehouse, calling for justic thomas to resign i'm in favor of that as well if that's the course it's goin to take, because i know th legal experts i've talked to and it's a tricky road to do impeachment. there's only one justice in ou history that's been impeache in 1805, so this is not an eas

road to travel, but again, a best, it is incredibly unethical and we should all be on the same side of this about this man paying for these trip and on him disclosing them >> he's, what do you make from the radio silence from thoma on this report he's not even come to spea publicly about it, but is ther a defense that he can mount, o see just going to continue t take this? >> he's gonna continue to take it, because why wouldn't you a this point on one hand, he has -- career really he asked questions on the bench the fact you put it esteemed about the shows that he's least a little bit worried about it the idea that this purchase wa simply to build a museum a some point, it boggles the min that that's the reason it wa given. that couldn't wait until later you had to buy it now, one there is no sign of his mo moving out or preemptively buying it fo when she dies? that doesn't - the idea that impeachment is basically off the table is sad

really, because that sort of thing that makes the constitution deal with the supreme court. that was the idea of the founders to say well, we'r gonna put these people on th bench for life but for good behavior. and, without good behavior impeachment was supposed to be the tool, the very political tool, that was used during the man. if that's not an option, the they're at least needs to be some sort of investigation within the senate judiciar committee if the house isn't going to do it, to look an compare the difference between what the son judiciary committee is gonna be focuse on, versus what the hous judiciary committee is gonna b focused on if the house republicans had any serve integrity, they woul be jumping up and down tryin to investigate this, trying to see is this person who will be have trusted to ensure the constitution acting in a corrupt manner if they want to talk about corruption and government, which they clearly do, the nee to be looking into this. >> yeah, instead republicans are too busy -

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documents for material they carry a maximum sentenc of ten years behind bars so how do we get here? well, last week the new york's heist publishes story about th existence of the frostbite documents that have been circulating on social medi exposing potentially hundred of pages of intelligence about u.s. spying methods and russia efforts in ukraine after an intense weeklon investigation, federal authorities were elected t share an i.t. specialist a otis international guard base, he holds top secret security clearance when has bee allegedly posting classified information online since december joining me down is a mar tomrob-less, he's an nbc national security an intelligence analyst and he's former cia officer it's good to have you back i the show i think you were quite shocked that these leaks first appeare on a gaming chat room that consisted mostly of teenager and moderated by a 21-year-old to share i need to know, were you surprised by this? is this something that caugh

you off-guard? >> well, first of all, it' great to be back in the show i think that we're learning lot about generation z now you know, this of course i quite common, amongst folk that age you know 19, 20, 21 these gaming - the love of gaming but these chat rooms, but the what we're really learning about in terms of my world and th intelligence business is tha there's quite a counte intelligence and security risk involved here. so i think the entire proces on how we think about back o investigations on boarding perspective officers and als continued access to classified information, the department of defense and intelligen committees is going to struggl a bit to figure out how do w monitor these chat rooms their privacy concerns, bu certainly we had a bad apple and he got through and that's problem. >> are you surprised - you know the intelligence folk better than i do, is a commo in a 20 and one year olds woul have access to this kind o

information? that's wanted to meet his ag or killers age and say - but it's more about th experience that perhap somebody who has more longevity, more experience in the intelligence community would have - perhaps more emojis stable and mature and is not as readily accessible to these document as this young man was. >> sure, it's a great question i think a lot of people have been scratching their heads on that but, the fact of the matter is that particular the u.s. military, our young men an women are given tremendous responsibility at a young age, thei 19-year-old to manage a nuclea reactors on subs they're 20 year olds who wor at the national security agency with top secret clearances so the fact that we have peopl so young might be a surprise but that does exist. what happens here is in that kind of i.t. sector, when yo have someone administering systems, they would have acces to classified information. this intelligence unit that wa located amazingly not by coach

scott massachusetts, you never thought the cape would be th center of the intelligence world for a week but, this uni did have worldwide responsibility so somebody with administrativ access would have the abilit to pick and choose through som of these - so this classified material. i think gop is gonna look to tighten that up, but not a particular surprise that someone so young and knowing that they would have these access these are things that i thin there's going to b investigations on the hill will be a lot of questions asked, but this was common dut practice that i think will b -- people take a hard look at i now. >> there is someone the righ who are trying to paint to share as this anti-war whistleblower. the discord group actually doesn't seem to seem that way. given the information that was leaked, is this even a fai label to consider? how do you assess th significance of what he ha released as opposed to the motivation of why he release it >> sure. we'll first and foremost, he

released classified information, he obviously took it out o secure spaces. he broke the law, i think he's gonna sprints quite some tim in prison. you signed secrecy agreements, you are well briefed on this so there's no doubt that h knew what he was doing was wrong. there's a couple points in this first of all, the hard right defense of this is ridiculous, and i think no one's taking it particularly seriously i mean, there's something abou -- in this discord, we don't know who's on their, so he migh have the strange motivation to be kind of showing off and sharing these documents with friends. but there's also reports tha there were east your peons i this check roop, it be ver easy for a hostile intelligenc service posting is someone she be a member of this group. so there's a lot more to tha story. but again, the idea that somehow this is some sort of whistleblower or hero is utterly ludicrous. i think will have no bearing o certainly the defense, and it' making what people in the righ who are saying this look prett silly. no one's taking this seriously

>> my point to it is that we have clear ways of acting ou as a whistle blower. if you're a person tha believes there was wrongdoin happening in the government, there are ways to come forward and to share that information, either with congress or with the prospect in this case it doesn't seem t meet this criteria mark kamala plus, always a pleasure thank you so much, great t speak to you up next, time for a worse th weekend. today is a battle between tw of the gop's most high-profile senators stay with us stay with us sfx: [text notification] ♪ your prescription for... staying right where you are. ♪ ♪ your prescription for... the blue or white pill. ♪

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the week and for this editio we'd like to give a warm welcome to senator ted cruz. senator, we're sorry that it i taken you so long to get you o the show, but hey, better late than never who started his career in th senate as a conservative bom thrower, leaving the 201 government shutdown in a effort to strip funding fo

obamacare. he carried that partisan stree all the way to january 6th when you voted against certifying the 2020 election results that led to the capita lie. now that he's up for reelection, cruz is only trying to paint himself as a bipartisan, reasonable republican, willing to work across the aisle declaring an interview with nb news, i think campaign shoul be about issues and substanc and results. okay their big guy next up, trump loyalists senator lindsey graham, anothe worst of the week contende that we snuck for too long you may recall that graham spoke out against the saud government in 2018 after the brutal assassination of journalist jamal custody in fact, he vowed to never d business with the country as long as the crown prince mohammed bin salman was in power. well, that's four to 2023, h is still in power and yo guessed it, doing business wit him. he met with the crown prince this week for a quote a very productive candid meeting, and

look at that the sender sharin his appreciation to the kingdo for purchasing 37 billio dollars worth of south carolin made a boeing 737s in case you are wondering, no. graham did not mention custodial in any of hi statements let's bring back hayes brown and mike lee on to the conversation gentlemen, who do you have i'll start with you hayes. who's the worse the week for you >> gotta get to cruise i gotta give it to lindsey graham ted cruz, that's very funn that you try to make this play right now, but his hypocrisy -- lindsey graham's hockey, sat i dangerous. i wish that i could laugh at how clearly raven lindse graham's right now, but i ge that there's plenty of blame t go around in terms o government officials who talks tough on saudi arabia and then go over and see biden's visit. this is not a partisan thing though, it's just unfortunat that lindsey graham would talk

so tough in 2018, but stil choose to go to saudi arabia today because of the economi investment aspect of it. that's not the sort of moral standing that he was projectin in 2018. i guess that's we have t expect for lindsey graham. >> mike, who do you have >> well, i'm so glad hayes wen with lindsey cause i was ready to lay into ted cruz my sister lives in texas o love the good people of texas, shut up to them. but, i asked representatives o mull when he came on the program a few weeks ago, i asked him about working with other members across the aisle how do you work with somebod like a senator ted cruz that maybe flip-flops on differen positions or sprea misinformation o disinformation and goes easy you don't work with those kind of people. i work with sensible republicans that want to pas meaningful legislation tha will affect constituencies he worked with representativ chris stewart on a suicide hotline bill there's a reason why the forme speaker of the house jon bayne wrote what he wrote about --

or said what he said about ted cruz years ago ted cruz, in my opinion, is on of the worst folks in th senate right now lindsey graham - >> hayes, crews can try to paint a bipartisan image o himself but here's my question does he really expect us t forget everything he has done, including flying to cancun walls constituents froze i texas, mocking aoc's fears o being assaulted on january the 6th, picking a fight wit sesame street's big bird ove the pro vaccine psa, and a whole lot more >> he clearly thinks it' possible, or at least is willing to allude himself to think it's possible. he diluted him self into thinking that shutting down th government would defun obamacare early on in hi career, so i don't see why tha sort of mindset would change with age at this point and with him all he knows is that it will b harder for him to win in texas than it has been before, s he's trying to get ahead o

that now >> all right, let me ask you this mike. graham, and not the first time he has flip-flopped on someone he famously went after trump during the 2016 election b saying if they nominated him i would destroy the republican party. called him a racist, as yo move for, saying that he was selling some fake stuff to the base, now he's one of trump' most loyal advocates he practically cried on fox th other day when trump was indicted, is graham not th most shameless man in th senate with these flip-flops >> i mean amen, joe my scripture that i'm reading from? jesus christ, you're reading everything was going to say. and all seriousness, we al remember the house floor wit lindsey graham said that night of january six when th proceedings were interrupted and when he came back to the house. he said enough, i'm out, that' it, i'm done and like you said, he's in a nice place varies on sea hannity any as crocodile tears anything that you should donat to present trump's campaign. nobody is flip-flop more

john kerry when he was running for president, if you remember back in oh for how much slac -- flak sorry, it he got. lindsey graham is one of the best, but my notice still fo ted cruz >> he is now trying to fund-raise off of the bill tha would enact triplets for senators, keeping that two turns. and yet here he is running for a third turn himself classic cruise, no >> plus a cruise especially as he knows it's no gonna pass that's the beauty of it. you can just throw up bill you're not gonna pass in hopes of getting your message across that i'm a good guy. he do anything to prove it >> listen, since we have a tie here, i'm gonna be a tie breaker. mike story disappoint you. i've got to go with lindse graham on this one sorry but. >> no worries, no worries. >> lindsey graham just continues to just go lower and lower, week after week who knows where the bottom wil be hayes brown, mike leah, than you so much i really appreciat insights throughout this hour. thank you for making time fo us make sure to come back tomorro night nine eastern msnbc

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