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was murdered, in a case that still hasn't been solved seven years to contemplate the act that put her here, and whether she'd do it again. >> yes because i was attacked, and -- that moment i felt that h was going to kill me and if not having remorse make me guilty, i don't think i should be that way >> perhaps not but certainly, cindy carball has years to rethink the question and her answer. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline. i'm craig melville thank you for watching >> hello i'm craig melvin and this is dateline ♪ ♪ ♪ >> she is very carefree, loving.
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she was amazing. i just can't talk about th feeling that went through my mind i can think of anybody tha would ever want to do what the did to her ♪ ♪ ♪ >> amyjane was an angel, traveling the world with her church to help children. >> they loved amyjane, the loved amy so much. >> back home, somethin sinister lay waiting >> it was a pretty horrific -- >> a white young lives snuffed out. >> it doesn't make any sense a all. >> months later, a mother ou for a walk vanishes. >> karen is gone i don't know where she is. it just, i just cry. >> one murder, one disappearance in the same smal town, but soon, police wit discover a connection. >> one of the tactics, amyjane brandhagen and karen wer
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together >> but that teenager and the missing mom, all in all. >> that moment, most of us kne that that was a coincidence. >> wassomeone stalking the woman of this tight-knit church? >> this sounds more like a zodiac type color. >> definitely. >> a race to connect the dot revealing a truth darker tha anyone imagined. >> i don't get that. i mean, it is just evil. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> hello, and welcome to dateline pendleton, oregon, nicknamed the real west is filled with cowboy tradition but these days it's no rough down so, when a woman was killed in broad daylight, the communit was stunned. then, another brutal attack, almost exactly one year later. and a terrifying thought started to spread, was there a
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serial killer on the loose here's keith morrison with someone was out there. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> there are children born int this world for home a danc never ends, for whom joyce seems uncontained, for whom is not containable -- >> what are we doing right now >> driving on the roof of th car. >> there was this young woman, a bright lady, who loved adventure and people and who danced to music no one else could hear, which is wh -- >> it haunted me, this cas haunted me >> it haunted the police haunted the whole town >> is there a serial kille around >> a serial killer with plan for two women and on particular church in one particular photograph. >> i was, like, this is insane and everybody needs to fin this person. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> yes
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but it began with that gir that's right >> just a free spirit that you can think of, like, literally, not having a care in the world >> kate cook is talking abou her friend and fello missionary, amyjane brandhagen talking about not what's happened, but it's all over. kate and amyjane went to india and nepal together small town girls, kate fro wisconsin, amyjane from oregon >> she is always ready to give her heart to people and just give everything that she had t offer. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> they wear their three month for something called youth wit a mission, or why wham for short. like tourists they went to the hall, and like creatures, they spread the world, two children mostly, for whom amyjane was magnetic, irresistible >> they would see her, the would go up to her and go,
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sister, sister, you know, so excited. >> and when the three mont mission trip was over, she hated it she was like, i don't want t go home. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> home for amyjane was universe away from a byron vibrant teaming town, here i is, pendleton, it safely tucke into a small valley on the vas rolling flanks of easter oregon cowboy country - [applause] ♪ ♪ ♪ >> home to one of the nation's biggest rodeos, the pendleto ground up, which the september celebrates the town's roug pendleton past rolling in th -- and then, good conservativ citizens wave goodbye to the departing cowboys and settle
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into a safe and predictabl life and they fill the cues every sunday morning withoutfear people like bill caldera who was like family to amyjane and her parents -- >> they brought her home and she was three days old and we were there when she was brought home >> bill knew and adored that remarkable little girl from th very beginning brandhagen asked bill to speak for them after what happened when they needed their churc family in pendleton free methodist. like youth minister jed hummel and his wife lisa wh encountered when amyjane she was in middle school >> if she got the feeling that you are left out, she woul find you, and she would make sure that you knew that yo have it friends. >> and what she was far away i india, the people who love amyjane worried a lot, and did not breathed easy until sh returned home to the safety an security of pendleton. >> she's waiting forgot to tel
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her what to do next. so, there was gonna be - go to school >> she wanted more freedom, too, so she moved out of her parent house and got herself a little apartment and downtown pendleton, she worked two jobs to pay for it, including a job cleaning motel rooms at th traveloodge across city hall >> she was excited to get this other job. but she was not so sure abou working at the hotel she was a little nervous about it >> after all, she never done that sort of thing before, o answered to a boss you, well this one sounded rough but she went, and she scoure and scrub those little rooms that looked out on downtow pendleton. and then, it was august 14th 2012 - >> 9-1-1, what is your emergency? >> i am calling from traveloodge here in pendleton. there is a girl dead in th bathroom i don't know - >> a girl's dead in th bathroom >> i think she's passed out. >> okay, i'm gonna get the
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police, ambulance headed tha way, okay? >> in his office down the hall from the 9-1-1 operator, bil caldera listened and felt th -- >> it just gave me a feeling that the put of my stomach something was not good about this call. >> bill, remember, was a close friend of the brandhagen family, attends the same church. but he is also a policeman, an that day, with the chief lieutenant bill caldera was th man in charge. >> as soon as my patro sergeant arrived on scene, the requested my presence, which i knew that i was dealing with a homicide >> but as he raced to the motel, he could not know what i'v just been started there. anymore than whose life just ended -- >> coming up - what does this veteran investigator was about to find would leave him stunned. >> i just can't tell you the feeling that went through my mind >> -- when dateline continues. ♪ ♪ ♪
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>> if got had a plan for pendleton, oregon on the afternoon of august 14th, 2012 one could hardly have imagined it would be this >> 9-1-1, what is your emergency? >> there is a girl dead in the bathroom >> lieutenant bill caldera prepared himself as he drove over to the traveloodge an climbed his stairs to room 231 all the preparation in the world would not have bee enough ♪ ♪ ♪ >> lying on the bathroom floor her lifeless body punctured by the startling scarlet, wit dozen samples, it was this wee free spirit he's known since she was a baby, 19 year ol amyjane brandhagen >> it just felt like somebod kicked me in the pit of my stomach. i just can't tell you -- the
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feeling that went through my mind >> yes, almost like she wa your kid in a way? >> very much >> lieutenant caldera took i upon himself to notify amyjane's parents. >> and that was probably the toughest thing that i ever had to do in my career and i can tell you the feeling that we all had, we broke down in tears >> but why would anyone want t kill amyjane of all people >> i was just crushed. like, how is this even possible i was speechless and then, i just sat crying in the bathroom for probably th next hour, like, not understanding, like, the craziness. >> as word spread throug amyjane's church family, so di the questions. high school pastor quiz statur -- >> early on, was there any indication of who may be responsible? >> i don't think anybody had any idea and i think that' what makes this so hard wa
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that so many of us, we kno each other, we are family here >> but there was the disma work to do lieutenant caldera returned to the motel where amy wa working. >> it's hard for you to take part in an accurat investigation? >> no, i would not not with my relationship >> lieutenant caldera turned the case over to detective sergeant rick jackson. >> it was a pretty, pretty horrific crime scene >> it was obvious amyjan fought for her life. her glasses lay in the buffe up, blood splattered on th wall dna, presumably her attacker would be found under her fingernails. but the medical examiner sai it was not a sex attack and it was not robbery either amyjane's personal send phon was still right there at the bedside table, and nobody saw thing. even though -- >> this was during broad daylight with a motel room door, with motel room doors open >> the only potential witness, if he was a witness at all, wa a painter working at the motel
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who said he saw a young ma with longer hair, darker skin, perhaps hispanic or native american, walking near the bac parking lot. >> he may not have, been maybe just something passing by? >> sure, while we were there within the first hour of being at the crime scene, upwards of 50 people walked by. i mean, this is a pretty bus area of town >> busy, yes and filled with cctv cameras banks, ridges, city hall walking trails along the river that runs through town detectives painstakingly wen through the footage. >> there was nothing >> they took dna from dozens o motel guests to check agains the sample taken from amyjane' fingernails. it wasn't that either. >> so, detective jackson wen to the people who knew amyjane well, or perhaps, or magically those stab wounds were all focused around her heart, whic often indicates some kind of crime of passion
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but -- >> i think most of the males w spoke to really hear themselve as protectors. >> pendleton police chie stuart roberts hurried bac home from his abbreviate vacation, and encountered th case, going nowhere fast - >> everybody that knew her characterized her in the sam way. she knew no stranger she didn't have -- >> as the investigation entered it second week, amyjane's famil prepared immemorial service at the church where they raised their daughter >> amy loves thunderstorms, an it was one of our favorite things to, do go out barefoo and dance and the rain because she loved it and in the morning out of memorial service, there was loud clap of thunder that came over town about 6:30 and then -- several of us sa it, i think we knew. >> dancing in the rain somewhere? >> i think she was >> together we pray, in jesu name, amen >> hundreds crowded into
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amyjane's church, and many lik jed and lisa hummell wer amazed by the strength o amyjane's parents. >> they were her deeply, but they were not looking fo vengeance. >> me, on the other hand, i wa ticked i was, like, this is insane, and everybody needs to fin this person. >> oh, they were certainly trying even at that very moment >> we had about 10 to 12 undercover officers in about the memorial service looking for anybody that would strik us as odd. >> but -- no one stood out >> and in their -- image after the murder, th famous roundup filled th streets as usual and then they emptied again. >> and as the autumn win turned raw, detective jansse investigation chased down ever lead and got nowhere >> we ran hundreds of rabbit
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trails down. >> the holidays came and went. holidays for other people, not detective jackson, not chief roberts. >> it haunted me this case haunted me >> and then, a spring breeze dipped into the pendleto valley curled it's warming fingers into the secret corner and came out with string whispering inane >> out of the blue, a tip. and it is a name that police know well, have cops found their killer >> coming up - >> we go out and find hi girlfriend she is gone. i always believed you could've done this. >> -- when dateline continues. ♪ ♪ ♪ psych! really? dude, that's a foul! and now you're ready to settle the score. and if you don't have the right home insurance coverage, well you could end up paying for all this yourself. so get allstate.
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>> six months after the murder of amyjane brandhagen, investigators finally caught a break. county jail inmate looking for a deal got word after the cops he claimed he knew who kille amyjane. >> i mean, we've gone fo months with nothing. and now, this -- >> there were two of them said the inmate, characters and - both well-known to local law enforcement, who soon confirme the men were in the area the day of the murder. they found doris first and looked like they were on t something. torres said yes he was in on i but he did not kill her it was the guy he was with, he said draper who went into the motel room and came out very bloody.
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>> he basically tells them, yes, i was driving a getaway car. >> it was his buddy who did th killing, he said, iran draper. >> so, we go out and find hi girlfriend, she's gone i always believed he could hav potentially done this. he is aggressive and he has these journals, and those journal entries about th filing women and killing and burying them >> they found that draper, who said, he understood why he was a suspect. >> have you ever thought about killing anybody? >> i've never really planned i out, but maybe thought about it, yeah >> but after a few minutes wit draper, jackson had a familiar sinking feeling. >> it's very much so enamore by the fact that the polic were giving him attention. >> he was playing, he was just playing it for all it was worth? >> he was getting a little bit of street track for it >> the dna confirmed it was al we, to unpleasant man th
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police said who seem to be enjoying themselves at the expense of cops. so, back to zero ♪ ♪ ♪ >> by august 2013, it had been almost a full year since amyjane brandhagen's murder in pendleton. investigators had exhauste hundreds of leads, and themselves - >> i knew it was having an impact on my physiological health as well as my menta health >> on august 8th, the chie took his family out of town, and the very next day, a woman named karen lang happen to be member of amyjane's church, an with her husband, dan, she was going for a walk >> she came down and i'll neve forget what she said she said, well, you know, i wa thinking that we can maybe g out for dessert afterward. >> karen was an accomplished pianist, then vice president a the local community college. her walk along the river levee
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near downtown pendleton, the river walk, was an almost dail habit, and it was 4:30 pm, lot of sun left on the warm august afternoon. >> and the last word she sai to me, i guess we'll just have that nice boring evening >> then, tinkering on hi motorcycle, losing all track o time it was dark when his son walke into the room and asked an innocuous question >> oh, where's mom i said, well, i don't know i'll give her a call so, i went i try to make the phone call and could not get a hold o her. >> but it was after 9:30 pm, karen usually walk for les than an hour she'd be gone for five and some people anxiety stokes panic, dan is not like that, it's a coping mechanism, h stays calm he made another call >> i 10:00 at night, my phon rings. i said, hey, hi, dan >> remember jed and lisa
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hummell, friends of amyjane' from church, karen alway parked her car in front of her house when she took her late afternoon walks. >> he says, is karen at your house? no, i just got home. and i asked lisa if she'd been over and she said, no, i haven' seen her >> and i i had looked outsid and thought the car was stil there, and we went up to the car, and she was not there >> so, dead and lisa grabbed flashlights and walked a coupl of blocks from their house dow to the river levee and there in the parking lot set a pendleton policeman whic they duly asked him -- >> and he just thought it wa unusual enough that he got a hold of dan. >> as the officer left to talk to dan, jed and lisa kep looking through the dark along the riverbank. there is a fear of not finding anything, and there is fear of finding something. >> when i got to where the policeman was, we were talking
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and he said, you seem to b awfully calm for your wife being missing. and at that point i thought, holy mackerel, now, if there i something, if there's somethin that's bad that happened to her, i could be a suspect >> from his patrol car, th officer was able to pull u cameras stationed around the river levee, no sign of karen. then, a cell phone provide sent aping to karen's phone. turned up across the main road about a half a mile from the river, in the parking lot at walmart, we are, again, th officer could not find karen what was going on? around and around the rive walk they went, pointing their toonie flashlights at a sea of dark >> i did go home and about five i wrote an email, saying karen is gone. i don't know where she is. i just have to go to bed
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and i went -- i just cried >> he did not sleep long the phone call had startled hi with news, some good, some very, very bad >> coming up - amyjane's murder and karen's disappearance, could they be connected? investigators are about to uncover a disturbing clue. >> i think in that moment, mos of us knew that that wasn' coincidence. >> -- when dateline continues. ♪ ♪ ♪ before advil. advil dual action fights pain two ways. advil targets pain at the source, acetaminophen blocks pain signals. advil dual action. ♪ it's the most wonderful time of the year ♪ acetaminophen blocks pit's spring! non-drowsy claritin-d knocks out your worst allergy symptoms including nasal congestion, without knocking you out. feel the clarity and make today the most wonderful time of the year. claritin-d. scout is protected by simparica trio,
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two bombs went off at th fini lshine. now, back to dateline. >> don it took its own imperious time the morning o august 10th 2013 by that, time going on six they karen lane had been missing for more than 12 hours and, then finally, the morning sun lit up the banks of th umatilla river and >> th policeman collin said we had found your wife. >> she was found, and alive. but what the policeman sai next was terrifying. >> when he said, we found your wife, and she is alive, that was a great relief but he certainly made it sound like it was a tough, tough thing. >> oh, it was.
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karen had been struck from behind by some heavy, blun object her skull was crushed. the wound was massive. right away, the detectiv called the chief of the -- five hours away, and described the way they found her >> did you think she was dea already? >> yes, we thought she was dead tremendous amount of blood, he indicates that he reaches fo her wrist to see if she has pulse and her level moves. and she gasps. >> but it didn't like she woul be alive for long. the detective who drove he down to the hospital told him, prepared for the worst as he arrived at the emergency room, dan ran into a nurse h knew >> and she took one look at me [crying] and was so heartbroken, that i of course broke down. and then i had a chance to see karen. >> the doctors gave her a slim chance, 100, maybe she was airlifted to a bigge
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hospital in portland for specialized care and as dan kept watch at her bedside, he remembered an od comment karen made a few day before she was attacked. her boys were in college nearly grown she wasn't sure what her purpose was anymore. as she told dan -- >> i really wish that i coul be, you know, more useful. if i'm going to remain here. on planet earth. and i would assure her with, but god has a plan, and yo will be used >> what kind of use was this if she lived she might never regained consciousness if she regained consciousnes she might never meet be th same how useful could that be and then, suddenly, the case i the murder of amy brandhagen and the attack on karen lang seems to take on a new and terrifying meeting chief robert surgeon from hi vacation to be hated thi photograph by investigators. it had been taken for year earlier.
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>> we got our hands on an imag of amyjane brandhagen and kare lang together dated august the 14th >> oh my god >> amyjane brandhagen wa murdered on august the 14th. karen lang was assaulted o august the 9th one year afte amyjane's murder he >> was someone targeting him? or someone who has a strange motivation >> could be a member of th congregation or could be someone that they provided outreach services to >> in pendleton, at the free methodist church, word sprea quickly. >> i think, in that moment most of us knew. but that was not a coincidence and i can't tell you how w knew >> well, small town, sam church >> small town, same church, we all knew each other. >> in a town where murder is rare, two women, one photo, an dates that lined up like a message had to be a connection >> it certainly crossed my mind i think crossed everybody'
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mind >> so once again, detectiv jackson and the others scoured hours of video recorded by cameras around town. when amyjane was murdered in broad daylight, those videos turned up exactly nothing. but then, luck turned. they saw this. recorded by one of the cameras stationed around the reservoir karen lang going for her walk, and following her, a man watching her with what looks like a pipe hidden behind hi back right there. >> they crossed a smal footbridge, it's a short stretch there, maybe 50 or 6 yards, where there was just no visibility from any directio as you are on the path and right there is where h attacked her >> that where she was found? >> she was found around 30 p - feet down the path >> the then they found thi video.
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the same into the park bathroom, and minutes later, emerges t use a drinking fountain. >> i immediately said, it's th same guy we've got to show that this is the same guy >> wait, same guy is who >> chief roberts remembered. after a me jane was murdered the only witness who remembere anything reported a young ma with dark hair wandering nea the motel. >> basically the description was fairly generic bail, 20 something, dark hair, a little bit longer, with dark tone skin. >> now we have a second crime year later, almost the anniversary, and here is a mal profile image on our network camera system that fits. it fits. >> but who was he? and why was he targeting women from the same church within hours of very unusual kind of pendleton roundup wa underway the order was clear. find him fast
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in a coma. her dad a constant presence at her bedside. her prognosis was poor but dan, optimist by nature, struggled to hang on >> it is just a faithful attitude that says, no matte what happens, it is god's plan and his plan is to prosperous. even if i were to lose karen, had to hold on to that, an realize that >> in those first two days since karen was found in the brush alongside the pendleto river walk, shock spread lik bat electricity. >> someone came up to ou senior pastor and said, yo know, i think i'm glad i'm not a part of your church. after all of these things that have happened.
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and i'm thinking, is there a serial killer around >> not fair, exactly not yet. but someone was out there. someone who had killed once, perhaps twice, and so th unease grew. dark places were avoided >> the odds of a strange picking to people that wer connected is difficult to wrap your mind around >> district attorney dan premise said - the sounds more like a zodiac-type killer, one of those kind of puzzles? >> as you're working on thos kind of investigations, you're thinking of those things >> you are trying to determine what connection is there between karen lang and amyjane brandhagen >> it seemed very likely to th police in the d.a. that the ma seen the surveillance video wa the one that attacked kare lang and that he myosin -- might also have been the kille who stabbed amyjane brandhagen to death in that hotel room on year earlier but who was? it >> the chief asked hi
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street cops to look at tha video. does anyone recognize him? and what do you know one of them did. >> he looked at the image for second and said that is dann woo. >> how did he know because he had encountered him four times in the previous year minor infractions though, so they never confirmed that hi name actually was danny woo. but there was one thing that might help i.d. him. >> he had a very distinc tattoo on the inside of hi left wrist which read, sempe fi >> he's a marine >> that was my initial reaction >> but while chief roberts did not know who the man really wa or where he was now, or why he targeted two women who onc thought -- taught bible school together they knew he had to track hi down once and immediately. >> the community was on edge >> but now he's out there. >> he's out there. and we have to go out there. >> there could be more victims >> the chief called in every
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available officer, a man hun was on and then, a bit of luck. the very same sharp by detective who found kara noticed something odd nearby a wooden handle on the back of an old batting cage by the sid of the river wall looked not quite right. so the officer reached behin the loose panel and found pipe that appeared to have blood on one end the dna confirmed it was karen's blood. and then when the crime la compared to dna sample from th other end of the pipe with the material find under amy jane's fingernails -- >> i get that call on a sunday afternoon. now we have connected the dots >> the man who assaulted karen lang and amyjane brandhage killer were one of the same. right away, the police chief shared the news of the day >> i was home, chief asked m if i wasn't down he said that the dna from th
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pipe matched the dna under amyjane's fingernails and it gave me chills >> chief roberts officer scoured the town, even distributed fire flyers with wu's picture on it, and they found nothing. ours piled up, days, no dann woo. the anxiety, oh yes. >> you didn't leave garages on locks sheds, doors, windows, cars >> you do feel like there is a serial killer in town. >> but then, a call from the local convention center. to catering company employee told the dispatcher that the had gone through a side door t the kitchen -- >> here is this person who the readily recognized as danny wo who we had disseminated th images of. and he was sitting, they'r drinking a coke. and he basically picked up his stuff and disappeared into the facility >> so he is in a buildin somewhere, it's a big building >> it's a big building >> within minutes, the polic surrounded the conventio center
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a search dog trained to bite joined in. they set up a command post outside one of the centers windows. >> the dogs just wolf, wolf, wolfing him at the door. and the trooper behind us says i can see a light hanging ou of the ceiling >> he's looking through window >> i take two steps back fro where i'm standing, and i ca see. it so i give them the comman to enter they, enter go straight to thi location in the stairwell, and there he is. >> minutes later, the suspect, the man known as danny woo, th man who may have murdered on woman, possibly even two, that had terrorized the town of pendleton, walked out in handcuffs and into the flashin cameras of the local paper later, officers took this vide of his hiding spot in an air conditioning duct in the convention centers ceiling where he had a blanket, radio, and some clothes >> it looked like a nest it looked like he had been there for a while, coming an going. hiding in plain sight. he had been here all year.
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>> but now what? would he talk? lawyer up? or even, will he reveal who he really was, and why it appeare he was targeting the women o the free methodist church. >> coming, up revelations that would leave this town and thes investigators shattered. >> i don't know whether to cry i don't know whether to scream i was dumbfounded. >> when dateline continues >> when dateline continues nucala is a once-monthly add-on treatment for severe eosinophilic asthma that can mean less oral steroids. not for sudden breathing problems. allergic reactions can occur. get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. infections that can cause shingles have occurred. don't stop steroids unless told by your doctor. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. may cause headache, injection site reactions, back pain, and fatigue. ask your asthma specialist about a nunormal with nucala.
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i'm craig melvin detectives just made an arrest in the amyjane brandhage murder case. but even the most seasoned officers were not prepared for what their suspect was about t tell them. here is keith morrison, with the conclusion of someone wa out there. >> here he was the man they knew as danny woo the man detective sergeant ric jackson had been chasing for a year >> i am sergeant rick jackson work for the police department i know i'm not dressed like police officer >> jackson was out hunting elk when they caught danny woo and rushed, and still in his, camo hoping finally to get answer t his year of questions. >> are you willing to talk t me >> to a certain point. >> the chief of the dea watche from a nearby office >> i didn't expect him to sa anything i expect them to ask for a lawyer i wasn't sure how he was going to respond to any of the questions. >> but to de-a and everyone wa
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in for big surprise. >> what is your name >> my name is lukah chang. >> sure enough, not danny woo, lukah chang. 23 years old, the son of christian missionaries a deserted from the u.s. marines who drifted in dow without any plans. he stayed in that downtown travel lodge, for he encountered a maid named amyjane. >> did you talk to her no, should only ask of you wanted the room clean, and i said no. >> he was broke, spending hi days on the street, spending his days at the town library across the street from the travel lodge >> i saw her, and i thought, a opportunity to attack. >> how long did you have to? way >> probably half an hour >> you're thinking to yourself what >> i'm going to do
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it >> grabbed her, brought her into the motel room, or th bathroom, and then wha happened >> i stabbed her >> with? what >> a knife. >> when detective jackson trie to get into this young man's head, the conversation it into a cold and disturbing place. as a missionary, some was luka chang rebelling against hi parents, against god detective jackson asked abou the question of every mind and pendleton, oregon. >> why >> to see how it felt. >> to see how what felt? but >> taking the life >> why but >> i was curious >> how did it feel >> empowering. and saddening. >> empowering and saddening at the same time? >> yes, empowering because i took a, life stabbing because realized, at the same time life is precious >> that was it
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to see how it felt >> i didn't understand that. i had never heard that from killer before. >> but why the second attack did he target those two wome because they taught bibl school together? because they appeared in tha photograph together? >> not really,, it was approaching the anniversary of the first time >> that was just about it, sai chang. >> he was a brick wall if the real answer was burie in his religious past, his failed military career, or som other secret corner, they were not to, know ever. >> do you feel remorse >> not really. >> why is that >> i got tired of feeling. emotions and stuff like that i got tired of feeling the feelings so i'm like, all right, let' just cut that out. so i did >> and then, having had his say, the man the police had bee chasing for so long was safely
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tucked away in the jail cell soon to plead guilty to murder and undetected murder, and begin serving 35 to life >> i can't even describe the relief it's like the world is lifte off of your shoulders. >> i don't know whether to cry i didn't know whether to screen, i just, it was jus dumbfounded. >> across the state, i portland, dan told his comatos wife, karen, that they caugh him. even though she couldn't hea that but then, a few days later, da turned on his video camera, and, well see for yourself >> karen, can you raise your hand again can you raise that hand up there you go yeah, very good. >> so the astonishment of he doctors, life flooded back >> i am doing very well, i fee great. >> and just a year after tha vicious attack, here she was caroline the woman whose ordeal wound u
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catching a killer. not exactly the purpose sh expected when she talked to her husband dan, that day. >> i told him, not that long ago, i said, don't ever pray for more to do with your life. [laughter] because boy do you get answere on that. >> her retiree took a long time, of course. three hospitals, surgery t rebuild her skull. months in a protective cone. but of that awful night, she has no memory at all >> what was the sense when you are coming out of this blackness and into back into life again >> a lot of it was just feeling that i did not kno what was wrong i didn't know why i was in the hospital, i didn't know i wa in portland. >> the lungs troubles are no over a few months after dan brought karen home from portland, he was diagnosed with cancer. so a skeptics question for -
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you to have been through s much in the last year that, mean, has this not damaged you faith? are you not angry at god for picking on you >> no. >> if there is a plan for you, it is your plan to be so brutalized by an attack and by cancer >> the beauty is that we als see the blessings. we see how it has had such a positive effect on people an it can also be so much worse for me we see, that we need to go through, it it will be a seaso of recovery for us >> ladies and gentlemen -- >> and, then in september of 2014, it was pendleton round u time again and the embassies voice boomed through the reason and the arena. >> miracles happen >> for our national anthem please welcome, miss karen lan
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to the arena ♪ ♪ ♪ >> i looked at as an opportunity to really just thank the people of pendleto for all of us support, and things that they did for me an for my family. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> two years later, karen foun herself in the arms of the community again, when dan died and pendleton was once again a smaller, sater place, withou dan. and the girl who always reache out to the lonely, the strangers. just like the one who drifte into town and killed her >> pretty remarkable, ha >> yeah. >> i mean isn't he exactly the
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sort of person he she would've shot out - sought out >> i find ironic, and if she were here today, she would say take away forgiveness, it's better way >> let's pray, come lord jesus >> and, every sunday the faithful still filled th pews at the pendleton free methodist church >> and a barefoot sprite who loves to dance, lives on at least in memory >> amy's life was great. and i think the people who kne her would want to live bette lives because of knowing her and knowing who she was. >> that's all for this edition of dateline. i'm craig melvin thank you for watching >> hello everyone, i'm alici menendez, as we begin a new. our shutting down democracy, republicans flock to the nra convention in the wake o another mass shooting.
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