>> that does it for me today, am alicia menendez thank you so much for spending part of your weekend with us you can find our show on twitter, on instagram, o tiktok, just follow at alici on msnbc i'm gonna see you tomorrow for more american voices, but fo now, i hand it over to a man hi, ayman. >> hi, alicia. i say it is shaping up to be another busy week with thi republican stunt, this is ji jordan's done that is taking place on monday, coming to manhattan and trying t showcase the crime in the city while totally neglecting everything that is happening i tennessee with all the push to get some kind of gun reform in this country past. >> we always talk about how th trump legal strategy is delay, delay, delay, and what we se that republicans have learne from his is distract, distract

distract >> totally on brand for th republican party it is great to see you m friend, enjoy the rest of your evening off. welcome to ayman tonight going on offense by handing d alvin bragg who's jim jordan accusing him of interferin with his investigation plus, taking apart his frivolous lawsuit agains trump's -- reproductive rights of the conservative supreme court once, again the outrageous ant abortion law just signed by ro desantis in florida. also, the tennessee three ar back in action, stat representative justin pearso should discuss is return to th state, legislator and gloria johnson will speak out on th issue that threatens their political futures. gun control. i am a man what he, let's ge started. here is one thing that we ar learning about manhattan district attorney, alvin bragg he is a fighter.

this week, in an extraordinary and aggressive move, bragg sue congressman jim jordan asking court to block parts of th republican-led house judiciary committee's inquiry into his investigation. the 50-page suit accuses jim jordan of a, quote unprecedentedly brazen and unconstitutional attack. it slams his requests as lacking the quote basi principles of federalism and common sense gragson turns called out jorda and his fellow republicans for carrying out a quote campaig of harassment against hi office now, the suit says that th d.a.'s office has received mor than 1000 calls and emails fro trump supporters, many of whic are threatening and racially charged in nature. bragg's attorneys also asked the court to quash the subpoen sent to former assistant dea mark pomerantz, whose testimony, they say will cause, quote imminent irreparable harm to brags investigation.

the judge in the case, a troubled pointy, declined to block enforcement of tha subpoena she did, however, orde jordan's lawyer to respond t the lawyer by this monday, april 17th and she put hearing on the books for april 19th, two days later. look, it is unclear whether ji jordan is going to respond i time, because, quite frankly he might be preoccupied with a field hearing his committee is holding that very same day right here in manhattan. yes, the circus is coming to town on monday, republicans wil hold cote a puddle hearing called victims of violent crim in manhattan, which will examine how alvin bragg's pr crime, anti victim policies -- >> it is no surprise, new york city has been the target o republican ire for decades according to the gop, blue cities like new york are jus

overflowing with george soro black prosecutors who ar pushing soft on crime policies that put their citizens in danger it is not true in manhattan, murders, moderat -- robberies, crimes and others are down compared to the sam time last year if it's true, if republicans like jim jordan actually cared about cracking down on crime they might want to look in their own backyard's first the in ohio 2020 to the capita city of columbus, which is nea the district jordan represents had more homicides per 100,000 people than new york city. at last year, -- we should note, has at least eight times as many people a columbus >> of course, this hearing i not about solutions. but it is not about that a all. republicans are not really looking to lower crime rates o protect locals in new york city they are looking to protec

donald trump and damage th character of the man who i actually trying to hold hi accountable and enforce the la that's guesses with jo wine-banks, former assistant special host - co-host of the sister podcas at msnbc legal analyst matthew dowd, for an msnbc political analyst, and david coren, washington pr chief for mother jones he is an msnbc political contributor. it is great of all three of yo with us. jill, i will start with you. i how you jules is this kind o legal action, and what can you say that bragg is asking the court to do here >> it is unusual, but that i because that the action that i precipitating it is very unusual. frankly, even if bragg were th u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york or even i he was the attorney general he could not be called to tal about a pending case any congressional committee or

before anybody else. that is the law of our land. so it is a ridiculous, he is right when he says that this i an unprecedented kind of subpoena he is right to do that, and think ultimately the court will say that he does not have to testify, nor does pomerantz because the we have an interview with the same ongoin investigation. he is trying to protect th rights of anyone under investigation, they have a right to secrecy for all of th information that is gathered and in their trial >> the right place to challeng it is once they get indicted and then you can challenge anything that is happening i the court, in that case, i that is the only appropriate place to challenge it. >> matthew, there was a little bit of irony here sprinkle throughout all of this bragg the in his law partner's make repeated reference to thi case that we all remember very well, the trump versus mazar

usa case, and the supreme cour decision to affirm that whil congress actually has a righ to issue subpoenas in it investigation, it does not hav in on limited right. in the irony here is tha republicans spent year ignoring oversight efforts fro the house when democrats wer in control and i can't help bu wonder, is it coming back to bite them now? >> well, let's just add that jim jordan did not honor a subpoena to himself in the course of all of the investigations and he want other people to honor subpoena i'm old enough to remember which was not long ago, th idea that republicans supporte federalism the idea that republican wanted the federal governmen out of the way of states and local jurisdictions. that was not long ago and that was the republican mantra. now, because of what's happene around the country and while the country changes. republicans want to put thei theme in place, throughout

whatever it, is whether it i in place from the presidency when trump had it, or now in the house of representatives as we see this unfold in the course of this, it is amazin to me, and just from a press political standpoint, wh republicans continue to want t litigate donald trump an highlight it, is an amazin political thing. they did not learn their lesso in 2020, they did learn lesson in 2022, but they can't seem to let go of. they can't seem to let him go. >> we're gonna talk about that later in the show, and, david, i started this program b saying that the one thing we are learning, about alvin brag is that he is a fighter. he is not backing down fro what we are seeing with thes republican tactics and i'm wondering, is there big takeaway from the democrats, should they take a note from bragg's playbook, fighting fir with fire, should they be more aggressive in the face of this republican interference?

>> what we see here is jim jordan, who shares the committee called the weaponization of governmen actually weaponizing government he is weaponizing congressiona oversight, trying to get in th way of a local law enforcement issue. and i think, you know, i don't think bragg has much of choice here. this is jim jordan, with a political stunt coming right out at him so he is pushing back, because he has to preserve his own authority in his own legitimacy and i think, in general, i think the democrats in the las few months, as we start th republican congress, they ar really not mulled over well fo these bogus hearings and investigations about, whethe it is the deep state conspirin with twitter to diss elect donald trump, all of these things they have come up with. it has been one bust after another. one p r disaster after another and that - math is right. the gop, whether it is on gu safety, reproductive rights, o

donald trump, it keeps stickin itself with a knife. i mean, the polling is there donald trump has not bee popular the last three, four elections. he won one barely. but the keep going back. and it is close to the way tha we've been talking about for years now. it seems to be that the gop is a cult we are protecting and advancin and winning, for the love of donald trump is the only thing they really care about >> jill, as i mentioned, we ar expecting a choice on this cas next week. walk us through the next step. what does it mean for jordan's vegetation in the meantime >> well, what's interesting is the answers are due on wednesday, and there is subpoena, now supposedly, fo pomerantz for thursday so the court is going to hav to act really quickly for it t be impactful

and what's next is we have t wait and see how the court decides whether the subpoena i valid or not valid, and whethe the witnesses can be called. and there is a big differenc of putin calling witnesses for an actually valid reason for congressional oversight. which, we have to note, as mat did, that they, the republicans, ignored all of the norma oversight subpoenas during the entire term. so they keep on doing that that does not mean tha democrats have done that o that they will do that, but it does mean that it can't be compared to a frivolou subpoena the -- states have independen prosecutions that are not part of our federal government. and the federal government can look at money that is spent an donated from them, but that is assigned to the states

but not only that, they cannot look they cannot look at particular evidence for an particular trial the. let's see this judiciary field hitting, and the irony of th fact that congressman jordan wanting to call out max crim policies and he is the one literally running interference for an alleged criminal in donald trump >> another example like, let's abandon federalism, okay, done let's abandon that won, order, okay check, we are going to abandon that in the course of this and i think your point getting into this, the facts is, not only has columbus has thre times the crime rate that ne york city does he actually hometown and where jim jordan's from has a higher crime rate of small town has a higher crime rate in new yor city in the course, it has eight of the top ten crime rat states in america are re states

eight of the top ten are red states so, and the other thing is just to add, if he reall wanted to find out answers t the unanswered questions about crime, then hold it on ohi state university campus, and ask about the sexual abuse scandals that occurred while h was the wrestling coach. that would be a more formal an more interesting thing to find out undiscovered information >> yeah, certainly information with pursuing and looking into david, democrats on th committee have skipped previou field hearings, declining them as what i suspect this one wil be, which is a political stunt without any merit. they are set to attend monday. you have congresswoman sheil jackson lee, who is a senior member of that committee, sh told axios that democrat messaged on monday will be twofold, hitting republicans o their attempt -- hammering gop in action on gun control. into matthew's point, this i the party that built itself on law and order. it is more like crime an disorder what do you expect democrats t

do on monday during this hearing? >> i think they will reference the city that matthew just mentioned, it is calle mansfield, ohio. it is in jordan's own district it is the higher crime rat than new york city i think we will hear that fact made again and again and again as well as what you talked about in columbus ohio, an maybe we'll get back to th ohio state wrestling som controversies. so the setup here is s obvious. such a stunt, they are leaving themselves wide open on issues like law in order, going bac to january six and not being i favor of the cops. for that not wanting to let th january six criminals off, a donald trump has called for. so i think this is mainly bein done for fox this is a fox news programming decision, for the part of ji jordan we are going to put on a show. it is not a hearing, it is a show, we will get them

soundbites it will be red meat for the fo audience, and i'm sure on th national news that we covere as well, but i think it is onl for about 20, to 30% of th public might see this as havin any merit. for anybody else, it looks lik it is not serious. this is not congressiona oversight, that has any meetin or impact the lives of americans in a positive way. >> david, matthew, joe, stic around, we're getting started. a lot more to discuss after th break rudy construct the outrageous lawsuit just file against, yep, michael cohen. and the almost eight hours the ex president being deposed thi week by the new york attorne generals office. stay with us eeper into parking spaces so people think they're open. surprise. [ laughs ] [ horn honks, muffled talking ] -can't hear you, jerry. -sorry. uh, yeah, can we get a system where when someone's bike is in the shop, then we could borrow someone else's? -no! -no! or you can get a quote with america's number-one motorcycle insurer and maybe save some money while you're at it.

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xfinity rewards creates experiences big and small, >> is the best defense a and once-in-a-lifetime. desperate offense? this week, donald trump filed lawsuit in federal court against his former lawyer, michael cohen, seeking mor than $500 million in damages for alleged quote breaches o fiduciary duty, unjust enrichment, conversion and breaches of contract trump is basically claimin that cohen lied about him in public, in books and in medium here incentives and that thi breached legal obligations cohen owed trump trump has also alleged tha cohn revealed informatio covered by attorney client privilege. filing a case against cohen is a classic trumpian move. that should surprise and anyone despite his claims that others weaponize the legal system against him for politica purposes, that is precisel what donald trump appears to b doing right here

jill, matt, david, all bac with me. jill, or get your lega expertise on this. michael cohen's lawyer calle trump's lawsuit from harassmen and intimidation is there any merit or is i solely to intimidate, do you think? >> i think it is solely to intimidate and for political purposes this is not a justifiable lega move the reading of it is almost laughable. i'm sure it's not for michae cohen. it takes everything that h could've possibly grabbed from any document that says tha michael cohen did x or y which has nothing to do with his obligations to donal trump. and it ignores the crime fraud exception. turning klein privilege does not protect the lawyer fro being testifying when th client is engaged in crime and fraud. which is exactly what is being

testified to you by michae cohen. you have to put it in that context to realize how silly this lawsuit is. it's brought by a lawyer i florida whose specialty is franchises and distribution he does have some criminal experience and some maybe firs amendment experience maybe his big practice is franchises which has nothing to do with this >> i want to pose to questio that wendy davis posed about this lanny davis being michae cohen's lawyer he framed it like this is there anyone in america aside from a shrinking minorit base of believers who takes mr trump seriously when he file these apparently frivolous lawsuits the way i look at it is like michael cohen's damage t donald trump is already done he has testified in court. he said everything there is to that he could do we'll see what happens in this alvin bragg case here. this is not gonna have any impact on that why is trump doing this?

>> first, i want to take up -- as they listen to jill tal about the lawyer she hired a an expert and franchises maybe that's an insight into how donald trump looks a lawsuits is that he sees lawsuits a franchises i'm gonna do and establish something i'm doing in the course of this to me, this is a football coac to me. this is a football coach numbe -- who runs some unusual plays. has some initial success and i keeps running the same pla over and over and over again even though everybody ha figured it out and knows wha he's doing in the course o this as we've seen in sudan are sui and what's happened over and over again donald trump has used this t shut people up and shut people down in the course of this people figured that out. now they ignore what donal trump does in the courses. i don't think he's gonna hav any impact on michael cohen. though i wouldn't put it pas him that he's upset and he wants some vengeance and if he can have michael cohen spend

some amount of money to defend a frivolous lawsuit. he'll do that just because he' that kind of vindictive person donald trump uses these things to try to keep other peopl down the road from turning o him and turning in and holding him to justice in the courses. he studied his whole career. the plano longer works he doesn't know any other play >> what do you think, david, o all of this? do you see lawsuits like thi one to matt's point. obviously not having an effect on cohen but could have an effect on other witnesse perhaps those that could b still intimidated by donal trump scaring them into silence? >> let's remember that outside of the bragg case, there are three, four, maybe even more cases coming down the pike here with a lots of witnesses who worked for trump, who are very close to trump while there is a certain absur element to this particularly a joe says if you read the document it's still might cause som people to think do i reall

want to have to spend money to defend myself against one of these suits from donald trump. michael cohen is going out there and raising funds an gofundme page. because it does cause money to respond to this insanity and so maybe in the back of hi mind he's thinking coincidentally one witness against me there are other traitors other rationing's out there. i'm gonna show them what happens to them. i don't think it's going t work these investigations are prett far down the road. power of subpoena gets a lot o people to tell the truth but in his mind, he's thinking like a mob boss. he wants to show that there is a price to pay i've written about this so man times otherwise in the las eight years. the three things i think the motivate trump the most. revenge, revenge, and revenge. he is vindictive and so i thin that's what's driving this some lawyers making some money exploiting that. >> jill, let me pivot to

another case that trump has on his hands. he's been about eight hours at new york attorney genera letitia james's office for a deposition in her 250 millio dollar lawsuit alleging frau in israel say business practices. what do you make of trum apparently being so talkativ during the deposition because can't imagine he said he plead the fifth for eight hour straight >> i think maybe it's finall sunken that when you plead the fifth in a civil case, it ca be used against you. it cannot in a criminal case but in a civil case, the jur can be instructed that you can assume that the answers woul have implicated him in a wrongdoing that they would've bee negative to him. so that may be why he decide he was gonna have to do some fast talking we don't know whether these ar all the same questions this time, he's answering them whether this is not a differen subject. we'll have to wait to se

whether those non-answers ar used against him if he answered all the sam questions that he was asking then there answered. it will have to wait and see >> jill -- matthew dowd, david coren, thanks to the three of you greatly appreciated as always. next, the current state of medication abortion access i america when we can expect i the weeks ahead. connect your business, you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend of the day with a new line tomorrow. with a verizon private 5g network, you can get more agility and security. giving you more control of your business. we call this enterprise intelligence. from the network america relies on.

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democratic led states have since begun stockpilin medication abortion hearin this from putin will be shor lived this is the next front here are in a limiting women's -- if further adds to the confusion around what it is an isn't available to women joining me now to discuss this is doctor wendy mcdonald board certified ob/gyn and monica some since then a director and sister song women of color reproductive justic collective great to have both of yo ladies with us dr., i'll start with you justice alito granted th justice department's request t preserve the status quo of mifepristone to -- access until wednesday, believe. let's not forget he also wrote the course decision that overturned roe last summer what do you hope or what hop do you have that the court wil maintain the fda's origina approval >> i would like to have hope i think it's important t

understand the evolution o what just happened back in 2000, the fda approved this medication under an accelerated approval because it team pregnancy as a life threatening complication. it did that under the caveat there would be very strict surveillance, very close monitoring of the people h reasons medication there was an acceleration of the approval and the people wh were monitored thereafter fo the next 20 years. that's 14 now. there have been 11 studies that have included over 30,000 women who have included -- who have visas medication, mifepristone, have demonstrate safety it's safer then taking too muc tylenol. this judge decided that by opinion rather than a fact tha this medication is now unsafe. which is now transition from political one to a healt related one. what i would hope is of th courts would understand that they are two different thing we're dealing with here. the political decision as to whether or not people have access to this medication. versus the health and safety o the use of the medication. which the studies demonstrat

this medication is safe. >> i was gonna say one of th judges will also take into consideration that if you have a judge making health base decisions on the safety of a drug, you're opening a can o worms shortages all across the country can start deciding which trucks do you think ar safe and which ones they don't think are safe >> absolutely. it's kind of - we're not using study data we're not presenting actua facts and information. we're just deciding that thi medication should not have bee approved because it wasn't safe based on what information? i'm hoping that that will be clear in the discussions >> monica, there is ne reporting specifically about this judge judge kacsmaryk that he remove his name from a law review article which criticized obama era protections for transgende people and those seeking abortions. during his judicial nomination process and we should note and we see hasn't independentl verified that what it seems as though he knows that these are not popular opinions what does that potentially tel us about him and your thoughts

about this revelation? >> i think that this is showin us across the board that our opposition has been very strategic about placing folk in positions of power. that will help them move their law forward down the court this is an example of an individual in a position o power that is not making decisions based on what th people need. not even based on medical fact or anything. they're trying to move a political agenda what's at the root of all of this is that there are certain people who are really focuse on staying in power. there are certain people ver focused on keeping certain people out of power. they are using our bodies. unfortunately, as politica pawns to move a politica agenda >> i want to ask you a bit about systemic racism in our health care system dr. gonell mcdonald. there was a report, and yo study of a health system i pennsylvania that shows that hospitals are more likely to

give drug tests to black pregnant women talk us through how thes issues are interlinked >> the issues are interlinke because it boils down to the most vulnerable, the mos disenfranchised the people who are most targeted when it come to these decisions to - decide or without reason to th side to drug test people o color more than anyone else. if this one example, it's on test result if you will to demonstrate what the problem i in this country. when it comes to under diagnosing it's black maternal health under diagnosing black women when they have medical problem that are life-threatening. the people who are gonna b more susceptible to the lack o access are people who are no able to travel across stat lines. not able to have surgica abortions. this is all targeting the same people who are unfortunately the most vulnerable. >> monica, let me get your thoughts on florida.

you get the governor that ro desantis quietly signing the six-week abortion ban into law quite honestly, judge ha merrick, it seems as thoug even he knows this is not th right decision perhaps he's playing politic with the peoples lives certainly while their lives ar at stake you are based on you organization based in th south. talk to us about how this ne ban if it does stand impacts folks in this south as the attempt to access reproductive care >> it's obvious that desanti has been doing work that doesn't make any sense we've seen so many horribl decisions coming out of hi leadership and this is jus another example of that. what is also true is that th south unfortunately is in th midst of a health care crisi in general the south has been the place that is yet to expand medicaid and most of it states. there are thousands of peopl who fall through the cracks. we are dealing with th maternal health crisis acros the south as well. many of our states, we are seeing black women dying at

rate 3 to 4 times higher tha white women in childbirth. when you look at all of thes things coupled togethe including now the six-week ban in states like georgia now we're seeing in florida. it's pushing access out of reach for folks. that is not what the peopl have asked for we have seen countless studies countless polls done that this is not what folks in the south are asking for this is not what anyone is asking for they're asking for more access they're asking to be able to make their own decisions about their bodies their families and their futures. what we are getting instead in the south are politicians wh are more focused on moving political agendas than actuall providing care and ensurin that the people in their state can actually thrive ever single day >> monika simpson, dr. wendy goodall mcdonald, thank yo ladies very much, greatl appreciate your insights thi evening. ahead, the gop's fake argument about protecting children. it gonna break it down for you one prilosec otc each morning blocks

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it has been more than si decades since that cartoon was published. and although the target of the outrage has somewhat shifted since then, the playbook remains exactly the same adults using children as pawns to advance their political agenda, no matter the harm i might cause. the name of saving the kids go led state legislators an governors have launched book banning campaigns, prohibiting school libraries from offering books they claim are somehow harmful to children. they've passed laws restrictin how public school teachers can speak about issues like race gender, sexual orientation claiming the lessons would cause discomfort for som students in florida, for example, the state senate passed a bill tha could give courts the power to remove a transgender childre who are receiving gender affirming care from thei parents custody. in south carolina, republicans are pushing a bill that woul categorize fertilized eggs a people under state law meaning anyone who obtai

abortion could be charged with homicide and yes, they are for eligible for the death penalty in the eyes of people wh believe abortion is murder their answer is also murder. that seems to be the sacrifice some are willing to make her on the right being willing to harm someon for a perceived greater good and oftentimes, the people being harmed our children. justice we can read sorry, a lawmakers were debating a bill that would ban all gende affirming care for transgender children a move many experts say coul lead to increased suicide rate among an already vulnerabl population one republican suggested tha children as young as 12 year old should be allowed to get married. is that in the interest of the greater good pre teens being allowed to web the willingness to harm some for a perceived greater good also with republicans to inaction after a shooter terrorize th

covenant school a natural -- six people including three children, a congressman ti burchard of tennessee was aske what role congress should play in preventing the next schoo shooting his response it is a horrible horribl situation. and we are not going to fix it when it comes to childre getting massacred at schools there is no solution the congressman seems to willing to be -- willing to sacrifice som schoolchildren for tha perceived greater good it is worth noting tha republicans at the state level spent months pushing a dra show ben in tennessee, claimin those performances somehow put kids at risk but nothing can be done to sto school shootings the gop has for decades try to brand itself as the party of family values. republicans have a documente record of denying crucia support to families in need. 2021, every single republica in the house and senate vote

against expanding the child ta credit despite the fact that i was found at this last child poverty rates to record lows research shows that states tha have all but banned abortion access have among the nation weakest social services fo women and children and hav higher rates of death fo infants and mothers. does that sound like a pro child agenda for you what's the greater good here for republicans? for decades, children in thi country have been used a pawns. there are safety o'malley of importance when it is deemed politically convenient it's always some children whos safety is deemed important it's never all children. that's because it is never actually been about protecting children for republicans it's about protecting their ow political interests at the expense of those children. we'll be right back.

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under 18 years old would hav went up to 15% or by 30% fro 2019 to 2021 and more children and teen were killed by guns in 202 than in any year since 1999. a survey found that one in fiv u.s. adults say they have lost a family member due to gun related violence against that backdrop of the statistics and the recen storms - like the one in nashville an the one at a bank in louisville republicans flock to indianapolis to attend, yap, the nra convention this week joining me now are two members of the tennessee free. state representative glori johnson and justin j. pearson. great to have both of you. thank you for making time. representative johnson, i' like to start with you and dare i say, it was statistics like the ones tha i've just cited that might hav compelled you to protest in th first place. tell me your motivation. >> absolutely.

i taught school for 27 years i was teaching at central high school and knoxville tennessee and 2008 the year we had a shooting i our cafeteria before schoo started during the breakfast hour and we'll never forget looking up and seeing kids fawning dow the hill towards my classroom. screaming, crying, they ra into my room they took a few minutes fo them to be able to articulat what had happened. what had just taken place. we lost a central student, brian mcdonald that - it just is traumatizing to children, to staff, to everyon there. and you just don't forget bein present at something like that this has been a passion of mine fighting for gun sense legislation for several years. >> talk to me about that fight

representative pierson, that when you were sworn in after you were reappointed to your seat you said you can't expel our fight. talk to me a bit about how you're going to continue thi fight for gun reform >> what the republicans who ar majority of tennessee though they were doing was silencin the voice around an issue that they have yet to take on seriously. they've all had a lot of false solution or finding an violence, about gun reform what myself, or visited of johnson, representative jone sought to do in the day when w went a peaceful protest or solicit to the voices of thousands of tennessee and sno millions in the sea and some people across the country wh are saying we must do somethin differently than the statu quo. as we continue our fight, it i to make sure you push forwar legislation and next week, myself and representative jone passed legislation that will b putting forward. the input and support of representative johnson so many others to the stat legislature to say here ar some of the solutions for th epidemic of gun violence tha

we face. here are some of the solutions that our communities is talkin to us about. such as red flag laws, such as safety laws. such as trying - executive order for universa background checks. into law -- it's good enough to be a law we have to have democracy in order to do that and this hold in our democracy or mauve roles instead of th people who are asking to b heard, it to be seen will only lead to the change that we need we have to restore our democracy. restore the voices of ou people, to the people's house. >> representative johnson, i feel like we say this a lot bu i feel like we're in a tipping point in this country. we're certainly seeing grassroots mobilization, certainly in places like nashville as a result of the tragedy. aaron what has happened when the three of you but what would you like to see done about the national leve if there is something to b done nationally or do yo believe that there is fight ha a better chance locally in the arenas that to you and you colleagues are fighting in >> i think we have to work

through both of thos arrangements something that came to light since we have been in th public eye we continue to highlight thi issue every time we talk about the situation on tv. after the kentucky situation kentucky representative -- has reached out to me and said we have just got to do something. we're talking about having conversations between th states how can we work together o this how can we grow this movement. how can we continue th conversation and don't let it end with a ne cycle. keep and maintain this movemen and build this movement workin both in the states and working at the national level to seriously bring change and keep our communities safe. >> of course, you still have t go through the nra or try to g around the nra and their gri on the republican party.

representative pierson, let me get your thoughts about that you've got republicans attending the nra convention i indiana. let me play for you some o their remarks. watch this >> gun hating politician should never go to bed o afraid of what this associatio and all of our millions of members can do to thei political careers. >> we don't need gun control we need crime control. >> little miss adi who was almost two, she already has shotgun and she already has rifle. >> let's be very clear, th issue is not too many guns the issue is too many thugs, hoodlum's and savage criminals on our street. >> your reaction to that, ho they're framing this debate an this conversation. >> it's a disgusting framing that they have put forward it is becoming - who is supposed to serve the public in the people the reality is we have a epidemic of gun violence in ou communities. because there is a proliferation of guns in our communities that normal folk shouldn't have access to due t

legislation that has allowed for that proliferation t occur. in the city tennessee. we have permanent scary. making it easier for people to have access to weapons without having to permit it's more difficult to - than it is to get an assault rifle. the problem is these - the accessibility of weapons the problem is that legislatio that protects the second amendment as immutable within protecting communities. the reality is a lot of folk are folks saying specificall on school shootings but what about banks? what about our neighborhoods i the gun violence for experienc on a day to day basis becaus of a lack of legislation and the lack of protection and car for our communities. these asinine comments that ar being said by people on th extreme right and people on th right aren't completely out of step with what most people our country want who are republicans and democrats. who do want common sense gun legislation that make sure tha weapons don't get into the hands of people that shouldn't have - for people who do have gun because there is enough guns

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