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not a so gun shy republicans pledged allegiance to guns at the annual nr convention as a second deadl mass shooting in a week play out of just hours away i louisville i'll talk one-on-one wit morgan mcgarvey the kentucky congressman behind the fiery rebuke of republican prioritization of banning book and direct shows over weapon of war plus, fox news, outfoxed the media empire said to begin a huge jury trial tomorrow for pushing for president trump' big lie over stolen election all right and what's called on of the most consequentia defamation lawsuits in decades it's black maternal health week did you know black women are three times more likely than white women to die from pregnancy related cause? we'll take a look at why thi is happening and what's bein done to narrow the widenin disparities in materna mortality. all of that and more is coming up

and good sunday morning to you i am katie phang the nra convention wraps up in indianapolis today as more gun violence or perhaps in a cit already reeling from one of it worst mass shootings in histor just last night to people wh were killed and four other wounded after shots were fired into a crowd of people in west louisville park. that park is just nine miles from the downtown bank were lone gunman killed five people adjust this past monday. and despite the recent strin of mass shootings, like th ones nashville and louisville, republicans continue to embrac gun politics >> gun hating politician should never go to bed unafrai of what the and all of our millions of members can do t their political careers. >> we don't need gun control we need crime control. >> little miss adi who was

almost two, she already has shotgun and she already has rightful >> let's be very clear, th issue is not too many guns, th issue is too many thugs, hoodlum's and savage criminals on our street. >> joining us now is nbc new senior national politics reporter john allen. john, good morning it always so good to see what can we expect from this last day of the nra convention >> certainly nothing i headline - some political candidates that spoke on - -- of course on sunday national youth day at the nra children were admitted free an home - host brittany cunningham o seminars including one on th dangers of gun - unintended consequences. another where they talk abou an analysis of thousands o interactions that wome governors have and how to use their guns ar in the past. >> john, how do you thin republican stances on guns wil

affect their ability to cour young voters in 2024 we've seen the kind of respons that young voters are bringing to the polls >> it's not just the polls katie, what we're seeing wit younger voters aren't energize -- to be activists on the gun research inside. and for so many years, - i shouldn't say all of it but lot of the activism was on the side of the nra, other gun owners for its organizations what you're seeing now i think is a real shift with this next generation that perhaps -- prior acceptance for the ide that there should be restrictions on firearms and ammunition's that has access to them. >> our thanks to you gentlemen for getting the show started the sunday morning a city is still shell-shocke by a deadly shooting spree jus six days ago coping with it another deadl mass shooting in a publi space. as we mentioned, at the star of the show, two people ar

dead and four others are wounded after a shooting at louisville park. the saturday night shootin comes just days after 25-year-old bank employe opened fire killing five peopl and wounding nine others that incident marked america 146th mass shooting in 2023 so far. that's according to the gu violence archive my next guest who lost a goo friend that day in louisvill advocated for a ban on assault weapons on the house floor jus last month following the schoo shooting in nashville, tha killed three children. and she pointed out, quote extremists right now want to put guns over kids joining me now is kentucky congressman morgan mcgarvey. congressman mcgarvey, good morning. thanks for joining the sho first i know you were friend with one of the victims of tha louisville bank shooting tommy elliott. i'm really sorry for your loss how are you, his family an frankly the community doin

since that tragedy >> it's really hard, katie as you said now, we're wakin up on a sunday morning probably needing to have another type of vigil. this community is grieving tha attack on monday at the bank like so many mass shooting we've seen play out in thi country, it's completely unexpected here were the monday after easter an extremely close kni community. louisville for those place where everybody gets one degre of separation away fro everybody else that was an attack tha could've happened to any of us what makes it an attack on all of us. i think we're gonna be there t lift each other up after this leaves the national headlines and louisville i dealing with it, we'll b there. i think of what the doctor said jason smith of the universit of louisville. whose team undoubtedly saved lives. but he said i am - i am weary, i am tired of goin out into the waiting rooms and telling loved ones that thei family members are not comin

home and hearing cries of mommy and daddy. they said we're doing enough thing. and that's not working and i think that that's. this community as we are dealing with this briefing thi heartbreak of this tragedy you are seeing people start to say we've got to do more we've got to do somethin because doing nothing isn' working. >> congressman, let's talk about doing more the state that you'r representing has a democrat as a governor, and you bashir, we hear a lot about the gop super majority legislature in your state and how futile any efforts by governor beshea would be to pass common sens gun legislation. one of the realistic anyon emphasize the adjectiv realistic options for those in states like kentucky and frankly the lake in florida wh are desperate for gun reform but have republicans standin in their way >> i served in the state senat for ten years before being elected to congress in novembe last four years i was -- very familiar with what's goin

on there it is when - they saw republicans wer majority, it has gon incredibly republican in kentucky and the station assembly that has really honestly it' heard efforts that common sens gun reform we passed things like a permit list conceded carry. we've had efforts that allowed guns in bars and just to the shear they made kentucky a sanctuary state for weapons. but i have to have hope an look at what mayor greenberg said here this week. kentucky laws right now requir the ar-15 that was used in monday's mass tragedy to be pu at an auction and sold which means it could be back o the streets. i think that's disgusting. imagine if your loved one wa killed with a weapon and the knowing that it's back on th street i think that's a law we can ge legislation. i think we got to stop this. i worked with a survivor o

another mass shooter who liste -- she was shot going into work i cincinnati to a meeting -- winningest and has helpe introduce a crisis of versio rights for attention law tha she and i introduced we had republican support. couldn't get a vote without hearing on it. couldn't get a vote on it. i think you're gonna see als some momentum behind that. that does marry mental healt and guns allowing law enforcement t temporarily remove a firearm from someone who is in imminen danger to themselves or others which looks sort o holistically at gun violence both in terms of what she sa monday in the mesh shooting bu also in suicide which continue to be the leading cause of gun death in this country. i still remain optimistic. but it is going to take a to of work. >> quickly, congressman, i hav to let you go. i really want to touch on that nashville covenant schoo shooting it was the 13th school shootin just the sheer you are a father of youn children i am the mother of a young child. you spoke on the house o

congress floor he spoke eloquently but i have to ask of state legislatures aren't going to protect ou children, what kind of legislation and action congress doing to protect ou children >> you see the democrats stepping up, i think this is one where we get it. we have to come to the table doing nothing is not an answer we have to put guns over kids. i was with my kids, katie, o monday when the mass shootin news broke we were in washington. the kids were in washington. i had to leave and so they got sort of more o a front row seat to what was happening the normally we say. when i said, when i went to my wife and say hey, there's been a mass shooting, i have to g now and get back to th district my daughter, my oldest daughte -- just completely ashton, lost color interface and said oh no which school and it was just absolutely heartbreaking that that was he reaction when there are some shooting

she's asking which school with terror >> congressman, morgan mcgarvey, i know that you are fighting the good faith i appreciate you joining u this morning and we're gonna pay attention to see wha happens in kentucky as well as congress thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> there is much more coming u on the katie phang show. a fox news it's on trial. why the public would be seeing some of the biggest fox news hosts by about helping pus donald trump's election lies what i am watching for in th 1.6 billion dollar defamatio suit against the conservativ media giant and more ami special coverage of th courthouse starting tomorrow much more to katie phang sho to come this morning so keep i right here mara, are you sure you don't want -to go bowling with us tonight? -yeah. no. there's my little marzipan! [ laughs ] oh, my daughter gives the best hugs! we're just passing through on our way to the jazz jamboree. [ imitates trumpet playing ]

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fox corp begins tomorrow the cable giant is already i hot water with the court judge eric davis, who is overseeing the case, sanctions fox news on wednesday over withholding evidence after dominion revealed that fox's lawyers had not turned over ke evidence in a, quote, timely manner the judge also said he i likely to report a special master to investigate th matter further as fox prepares to mount a defense one option is alread off the table. the judge ruling that the medi giant cannot argue newsworthiness to defend airin false claims defending the new york times wednesday in court the fox chairman, rupert murdoch, coul be called to testify now the judge has prohibited video and audio recordings fro the courtroom. i will be there, startin tomorrow, covering the trial keeping you updated right here on msnbc joining me now is glen kershner, nbc legal analyst, former prosecutor and host o the justice matters podcast. -- president and ceo of media matters. gentlemen, good morning!

big case, starts tomorrow with opening statements glenn, i would like to start with you the judge already rejected several first amendmen offenses that fox hoped to invoke how do you think that that i going to shape the way tha opening statements are going t look what are you expecting to hear tomorrow >> katie, it really feels like liability here, right? defamation has already bee proved at least based on wha we have seen publicly recorded and some of the rulings by judge davis. it is pretty clear that fox wa caught red-handed tellin election lies. knowingly telling election lie to its viewers it feels like at the end of th day this is going to come down to the damages dominion voting systems can prove it's suffere as a result of those lies. why would say that this tria would not be publicly broadcas is so disappointing. think about the gift that give to fox news.

the viewers will not be able t see the attorneys for dominion cross-examined tucker carlson, for example, with the fact tha he wrote, he sent messages saying, sydney powell is lying and yet fox news continue to present those very lies, what would contend were democracy busting lies to its viewers. boy, it would be really nice i the viewing public got to se tucker carlson being cross examined with information like that >> angelo, right now in th short term fox continues t produce high ratings how do you think that this dominion lawsuit, along with the smartmatic lawsuit, abby maddox's lawsuit, th shareholder derivative lawsuit how do you think it will affec fox's bottom line? talk about how carriage fees fit into this whole calculus i thought you posted a tweet about a very interested in it.

can you explain it to th viewers? >> the short and it's fox will be affected financially in two ways the matter what happens with the trial, the outcome, on thing is certain, they are boxed in right now the ability to navigate th business climate, thei audience, it's deeply limite while focusing on this trial they'll be walking a tightrope what does that mean? the dirty secret if fox is one of the few commercial tv channels that actually doesn't care about commercials in their prime time advertiser leaves a never change th programming to try to brin those advertisers back the reason they don't really care about commercials as much as other tv channels is fo news is the second mos expensive channel on everyone' cable bill espn number one. one of the things that fox did strategically after glen backup fired more than a decad ago because of appetite losses was to shift most of the revenue over to the thin called carriage feeds. the money that cable companies pay per channel. some people may become aware o this with one america news whe

they got booted off directv in verizon. they were another example wher most of the money came fro these deals with cable companies. it was like guaranteed revenue doesn't matter not of someon watches you you get a certai amount of money. fox news doesn't need a single commercial and they would stil be profitable. they have a 35 or 40% profit margin most of the money comes from this what's significant is, right now this month they ar renegotiating a bunch of their contracts. they all sort of expired and they are in the process of renewing them. they are limited if nothing else cable companie will leverage this moment. wait, you know what? we are not gonna pay you tha 50 to 60 cent increase you'r looking for. we don't have to that is just simple market economics. the reality is that is a reall big deal for fox news. financially that is one piece. from a larger perspective -- have the intention with th audience no matter why it will be a lot more difficult in this momen to give the audience the ver thing that we saw that led t this dominion trial in the

first place. they can't really cater to the in the same way. think about what that would do for the trial? but they are really limited in this moment of transformation. it is going to affect them n matter what. financially, they are going to end up experiencin repercussions. probably billions of the billions of dollars and damage in the dominion lawsuit. >> we mentioned in the beginning of this segment ho the judge sanctioning fox fo withholding evidence anti grossberg alleging in her own mended complaint that th lawyers actually deleted tex messages let's talk about sanctions and core the judge indicating that he might be appointing a specia master what is the import of having someone like a special maste imported in a case like this >> i think the import for fo is more of their behind th scenes potential dirty dealing might be exposed if a specia master begins to dig in. as of right now the sanction that the judge has imposed o kind of modest

ordering that additional depositions can be held if dominion believes that, by fox wrongfully with beaulieu fruit in discovery that additional definitions are necessary. the judge can also hold that all such depositions will be entirely on foxes dime the cost will not be shared. so far i think the sanctions are modest the judge has signaled tha something shuns could more - one example is the special master that could really dig into what else fox has reall been withholding the abbey grossberg piece, i'v grossberg of course was one of tucker across and producers wh alleges that she was told by the network to mak misrepresentations to try to protect fox. she also said that they took her phone at one point and deleted or altered message between her and one of the hosts, maria cordero mo.

that is going to be some blockbuster testimony that unfolds during the trial i am so glad, katie, that yo and other journalists will b up there being able to give us th living color blow by blow of what is going on in that courtroom. >> angela, literally 30 second but i do have to ask, do you agree with gland that the fact that there are no cameras in that courtroom will actually b a boon to fox and not be helpful, at all, for dominion? >> it definitely helps fox i the sense that it will be a lo harder for their audience to see their hosts lying about it we were the only entity to fil the actual motion. the media group sent a lette -- we filed a motion to intervene to get audio recordings and to try to expand access here. as rupert murdoch said durin his deposition, fox news was uniquely positioned, the onl entity that could only correct the election lies that donal

trump's lies that people believed >> you, all of us will b watching very carefull starting tomorrow. i appreciate you guys starting us off this week by joining me thank you for being here thi morning. coming up, free speech but at cost after the break we will di into the break of th republican book bans across th country as the, so-called, party of free speech ramps u censorship attacks on ou public libraries this is a story you cannot miss don't go anywhere. you need to deliver new apps fast using the services you want in the clouds of your choice. with flexible multi-cloud services that enable digital innovation and enterprise control, vmware helps you innovate and grow. ♪♪ allergies don't have to be scary. (screaming) defeat allergy headaches fast with new flonase headache and allergy relief! two pills relieve allergy headache pain?

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and the surge doesn't stop there. in a retaliatory native go lawmakers and missouri voted t defined all of the state public library following a lawsuit by two library group to overturn amateur law that banned 300 books in school libraries. in texas, a small town through and a close their three public libraries out to a federal judge in austin ordered them t return all of the books that they banned. and a public meeting o thursday, milano count commissioners listen to people argue both sides and came to this conclusion. >> elaborate will remain open, when will be trial through the courts not through social medi or the news media. >> joining me now is brittan coming ham, msnbc contributo and host of the podcast, o distracted courtney, my friend, it is goo to see you let's start with texas people in law that count argued that the first member rights were violated after books were removed i wanna let the -- some of the books remove included for children's pictur

books with titles larry th farting leprechaun and gave the goose on th loose. we can laugh because it's funny, but it's absurd. even after the commissioners voted unanimously to keep th lab reopens, after a federal judge told them that they ha to, the fight is still not over what do you think is gonna com next when this lawsuit i brought back to the courts >> i think that what unfortunately is going to come next it's a continued push fro the gop, not only to ban books but to spread across america their vision for a country tha allows them to hold on to powe at any cost. katie, you are absolutel right. it can be comical to realize that we have gotten here i part because we weren' supposed to be able to get her as a, supposedly, democratic country. this is not who america wa meant to be. we have republican controlle legislature all across the country that are committed t retaining their power by any means necessary. let's be clear, katie 92% of voters across the country ar --

wildly unpopular it is, perhaps, one of the mos unpopular things that they are doing. yet, they are committed to it. that means that they don't actually care about democracy. they don't care about the rule of the people. they don't care about th voices of the people all they care about is maintaining an autocracy tha allows them to maintain powe to shares only the history tha benefits them and to ensur that what is taught to our young people and spread across our communities is a history and a vision of america that only promotes their power. >> let's talk, frankly brittani about how insidious this is. but tentacle is spread far and wide on april 5th the texas senat approved two bills restricting drag performances. one of those bill says that it will defund municipal librarie if they host events like popular drank queen stor hours. that bill is heading to th house. if approved it will go int effect in september. what do you make of this threa of restricting state funds t

public libraries just to targe drag >> i mean, what is clear is th republicans are ready an willing to use every singl tool in the tool box to ge their agenda accomplished. texas to the place that is not concerned about restricting th kind of assault rifles tha killed a young people in uvalde they are not interested in restricting the harm tha happens to lgbtq communities i the state. instead, they are trying t restrict harmless fun that has been happening for decades what we see in texas is what w are seeing across the entire country. so often the states are usin these opportunities as testing grounds. in this strategy, and work i texas, it can work in nort carolina it can work in a care in - florida, missouri. this is the entire point the entire point is to begin i texas but never to and i texas. rather, using these as a strategy testing ground to mak sure they know how to get this

work accomplished across the country. >> so, britney, let's talk about the positive possibilities of a solution. you listed a whole bunch o states there, louisiana, missouri, texas, florida, al of these republican-led stat proposals and bills show how much of an authoritarian escalation and things like boo banning and defunding librarie is happening across ou country. a top republican donor jus announced that he is stoppin his financial support of florida governor ron desanti because of desantis's stance o abortion and book banning. is that the key to ending th culture wars pulling money? it is certainly going to be on of the necessary keys. not only do we have to ensur that these kind of folks are not receiving them financial support that they would like we have to make sure that th voters and the organizations that turn out voters i opposition to them are fully funded, as well. i would love to see that money pulled from ron desantis i would love to see that money funneled into a black voters

matter or an organization that is committed to making sur that someone like ron desantis not only loses this election but that a party that embraces these kinds of ideas continues to lose power. we are talking about banning abortion, banning books. we are talking about banning track shows. we should be talking about banning assault rifles increasing access to educational materials. ensuring safety in well-bein for all of our young people. that is the kind of vision tha americans want and they kind o vision that we deserve i'm hopeful to see that bi donors and small donors alik are showing up for the candidates who are proposing that kind of vision fo america. instead of one that is authoritarian in nature. that is, supposed to be, exactly who we are not >> brittani, i have less than minute i want to talk about how these public libraries closing and defunding impacting not just kids but some of the libraries are actually providing service like internet. the ability for communities to have educational resources

it's not just children talk about the impact it has o rural communities, especiall in states like missouri. >> as you shared, as you know, katie, i am from missouri. 34% of missouri -- six in rubble spaces and 20% o missouri lack access t internet at all. many more lack access to hig speed broadband internet as you said these are communit centers, these are places wher people go to apply for jobs. for places to go and pay their bills. internet access is so essentia to american life all across th country. here we are in 2023. we are not talking about expanding that access an making sure the more people ca have access to that home we are talking about restricting that access. closing down those community centers that have been saf havens for so many people. i remember back in 2014 during the ferguson uprising. the ferguson library was the place where we educate children when our communitie

have been turned into a wa zone by the local police libraries continue to be the heartbeat of the communities and they need to be embraced b our states and not be funded >> brittany cunningham i appreciate you always bringing your analysis and insight. thank you for joining us today >> thank you >> up next, a black maternal health week. after the break i'll be joined by one lawmaker leading th charge on passing legislatio that can help prevent blac mothers from dying while bringing new life into thi world. don't go anywhere, much more the katie phang show coming up the cube right here on msnbc >> woman: why did we choose safelite? we're always working on a project. while loading up our suv, one extra push and... crack! so, we scheduled at safelite.com. we were able to track our technician and knew exactly when he'd arrive. we can keep working! ♪ synth music ♪ >> woman: safelite came to us. >> tech: hi, i'm kendrick. >> woman: replaced our windshield, and installed new wipers to protect our new glass.

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the highest in nearly 60 years according to the cdc the most vulnerable groups are black women. who are more likely than any other racial or ethnic group t die in pregnancy related causes to bring awareness to this issue president bide officially proclaims april 1 three 17th as black maternal health we. the u.s. department of healt and human services is also springing into action by promising comprehensive an continuous maternal health insurance coverage durin pregnancy. , lawmakers are pushing fo more equity and health car overall. joining me now is illinois congresswoman robin kelly. member of the energy and commerce health care subcommittee, and the chair of the congressional black caucus health care brain trust. thank you for joining us this is a really important

issue in the numbers reall lends credence to that a 2021 cdc report revealed tha the fatality rate for blac women spiked to almost 7 deaths per 100,000 live births i don't know if you are blac women gave birth that year they still died at highe rates. right states like arkansas hav the highest maternal death rate that is not a, coincidenc is it congresswoman? >> it certainly is not thank you for highlighting thi unfortunate, these unfortunate statistics no, it is not surprising but also, i have led the fight to have the correspondents b medicaid to extend into a year i am proud to say that first illinois first to do that, but then there are many othe states i think where two state now with other states coming o board,in some of those state that are more red states, wher those deaths occur more often. >> we are, though, living in

the post roe world right now abortion education is no easily accessible in abortio procedures are banned in som states and mortality rates ar climbing nearly 40% since th pandemic how does this affect black women's maternal mortality rates? >> they will most certainly be on deck forcing women to hav babies that they don't want to have that is what we expect there will be more death because of this unfortunat ruling >> so, black maternal health weakest part of a law on the legacy of black women-le reproductive justice advocac and organizations. how are lawmakers working with these particular organizations to ensure that the issues ar being heard in that the change are being made >> i am leading a bill calle the mamas act. we did not make a move without consulting with these blac organizations, without consulting with -- without consulting with wome

who have been through this o know somebody that has bee through it everybody didn't die but the still hunt - when they had a baby so we consulted with, them and that's who he puts to gather the need to have nationa protocol the need to be culturall competent training there need to be revie committees and things like that we need to extend th postpartum period permanently, and the mandate through all 50 states we've got these ideas from them enhancing or raising awareness of doulas and midwives it is all a part of my bill an other bills that are i congress also. >> so not all states and communities are created equal. rural maternal health care - >> definitely. not >> rural maternal health care is a vanishing. and this putting more blac women at risk. what are lawmakers doing i response to this

>> well, last time i went to bat to ask for more money an appropriations, which happened for rural obstetrics and we really need to open u what the options are i just spoke to some women the other day, and some people can have babies in hospitals, bu there needs to be birthing centers or having babies a home, we need to open up those options. and again, enhancing midwifery doulas and other professions >> so, an overwhelming majority, congresswoman, of maternal deaths are present preventable the cdc found that 80%, roughl four and five maternal deaths, were due to preventable causes researchers study into the 72, 019, deaths which black wome made disproportionate, a one third amount, and that they're both subtly to die of cardia and coronary problems. what can be done to preven these deaths on a nationwide

level? >> first of all, you have to attribute some to racism that is just the bottom line you can be a black and wealthy and well educated in great shape and you still die and th disproportionate rates compare to white women that graduate from education so we have to have culturall competent care that is the bottom line. and then also access to care period black women do not have th same access to care as their white counterparts living in rural areas or urban areas or suburban areas. and then, hospitals are closin in these areas also. so we have to provide places for women to go. quality places for women to go >> i am, anytime congresswoman but i would like to invite you to come back and perhaps we ca do a deeper dive on implicit balance bias when it comes t health care. i think that is a topic that gets overlooked often becaus it is just something tha inherently instinctively i

coming up but i do think it is an important conversation and would love to have you com back in the, meantime i would lik to thank you congresswoman robin kelly for joining us thi morning. i appreciate it. >> thank, you and i would love to come back >> coming up on the show, once in 1000 years after the break, i will talk to an eart scientist about the alarming rise and devastating storms an floods watching it florida and other parts of the unite states we'll keep it right here

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seven-hour stretch joining me now is doctor michael, man professor of eart an environmental sciences at the university of pennsylvania he is also the author of the book, the new climate war. and the upcoming book, our fragile moment what lessons from earth's pass can help us survive the climat crisis dr., man it is always pleasure to have you let's talk about these one i 1000-year weather events they seem to be happening al across the country and mor alarming rates are we witnessing firsthand ho global warming and other climate changes are increasing the intensity of these kinds o storms >> thanks, katie it's great to be with you. the short answer is yes. we toss around these terms lik thousand year a vent, and it makes it sound like well okay, it was just really bad luck. that's not what it means when we say this with 1000 yea advance it means we should not have witnessed it if we live for 1000 years matt it was a lot of biblica fame should not have witnessed

an event of this sort. the only reason we are witnessing it is because it is no longer 1000-year event. it is maybe a five or ten year event. what we are doing is we ar taking extremes that were so and on like -- they should not have happene in 1000 years. and we are now warming the planet and changing th incidents of these extreme weather events such that the become, now, commo occurrences. whether it is this thousand-year event down i florida, which is now the sort of thing we can expect to se frequently, or the fact it was 96 degrees in hartford connecticut yesterday. or the pacific northwest hea dome of ed that we heard about a couple of summers ago. when it was warmer in southwes canada than it usually is in phoenix, arizona, in the middl of the summer. the only reason we are seein such extreme weather events is because of the fact that w

have warmed up to the planet we've put more moisture in the atmosphere so for example when you ge those rainfall events, the produce a lot more of that rain and they give us extreme flooding like this case. >> with some positivity, docto man, you argued it all is no lost in the battle against climate change but you do say that placing -- a on human behavior is the result of a multi millio dollar marketing campaign by fossil fuel industries and corporations that frankly th politicians that they ar supporting your upcoming book is going to focus on driving the climate crisis what can we do to combat climate denialism and ge people to stop sticking thei heads in the sand about this critical issue >> thanks for that question, katie. what we need to do is recognize, and it is a simple phrase that i use over and over agai today. there is urgency we need to act now but there is agency. it is not too late to act. and the science tells us that. if we look to the past we se

that in past climate episode there is a certain amount of resilience in earth's climate. and that means that we can still prevent catastrophic levels of warming if we brin carbon emissions dow dramatically in the year ahead. but if we don't do that, w continue headlong down thi path, discourse of fossil fuel burning in higher levels o carbon pollution in th atmosphere, we will exceed our adaptive capacity as a civilization so it is up to us. there is a shrinking window of opportunity. a shrinking window where we ca bring those carbon emissions down fast enough to avert catastrophic warming of more than two degrees, three degree fahrenheit that window is shrinking, an we need to act now >> doctor, i've got 30 seconds but i do want to ask you quickly about urba development. how much of that is factorin into the type of flooding that we are seeing in south florida and elsewhere across the country? >> this is really important,

because it really brings up on of the primary issues that w are dealing with here. which is climate justice the fact is that people wh live in those flood-prone lo lying zones, or in the areas o the cities where there is th worst urban heat island, and they see the greatest amount o heat stress in the summer, invariably those are minorit communities, underserved communities. people with the least resource to deal with that threat what that means is that climat change is not ethical -- is an ethical obligation on ou part >> doctor michael, man a always you bring such insight. we appreciate you taking the time to join us and we appreciate you being with us thank you so much. >> thank you, always a pleasure >> and a quick programming not for you. all tonight, msnbc films presents - but lives like lasagna doe america. he travels across the countr to celebrate the rich an diverse latino cultures in six different destinations exploring, food politics, musi and everything in between alon

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