on msnbc streaming on peacoc as well. don't want to miss that. that does it for the first hou of yasmin vossoughian reports. our next hour, starts righ now. ♪ ♪ ♪ top of a new hour everyone i am god made us again if you're just joining us, welcome. if you're sticking with us, we thank you for. that at least four dead in alabama. two more in kentucky in a pair of mass shootings this weekend including one at a birthda party for children we're gonna have a live report in just a moment on that the shootings coming as the nr convention since coming to a close this weekend after we cavalcade of politicians vowed to do nothing about guns while supporters resist al attempts batteries >> - with these people that are going around saying, their daughter can't, that's good. >> do you think that will stop mass shootings >> it's a start, in a way.

>> okay, the good liar confronting nra attendees with facts. it's just a taste of what they heard. i'll be talking to them late on in the. our you don't want to miss o what some of them got. they're also ahead, the latest information on a leak of classified documents and the 21-year-old at the center of i all. and then asked the supreme court faces wednesday midnight deadline of its stay involving a key abortion pill, republica 2024 candidate, wants to tal about everything else except abortion rights. we have that coming up as. wobbly begin once again with two mass shootings overnight daybell, alabama, four peopl are dead and multiple others injure after a shooting at a birthday party. two others were killed i louisville, kentucky, afte shots were tired there into crowd of hundreds gathered in park the shaq brewster is following both cases shaq, let's talk through som of this. here we are talking about mass shootings in the country

starting first in alabama, i'm still waiting for more information about a potentia suspect. but when we know so far? >> we have new details in th past hour here we learned from authoritie this morning that four peopl were killed in last night' shooting we just heard in the past hour or so from the lake martin hospital that tells nbc news that 1 victims were transported t their hospital they see some of those victims were transported to othe hospitals, or transferred to other hospitals. but they say currently, four are stable and five ar high-risk. we have a number right now four people killed, at least 1 wounded in last night' shooting that happened at sweet 16 birthday party. one of our producers on th ground talk to the dj at the party. who described the scene as chaos, saying that after the shots rang out that he hid under a table with five people trying to shield them and tell the shooting stopped i want you to listen to what w heard from high school coach

who says he knows at least one of the victims >> we started off with a 16-year-old, just a party, normal party for a 16 year old and from what i understand somebody had gotten. they walked in with a gun. and they opened up fire, for n reason nice party, nice family. just one of those things it's a small town, nice town crimes low it's one of those things tha happens. -- can't. great school and the communities back t school a lot it's a onetime thing tha happened >> there is still a lot that w frankly do not know, what we don't know the motive, we don' know that the suspect has been caught or is part of the shooting or part of the victim count should say but officials say that there i

no active threat to th community at this point. we often know that the investigations describing is gonna be long, complicated, we know that both local law enforcement, the county, and state and even federal law enforcements are involved in this investigation and we heard this afternoo from the white house, that president biden has been briefed on the situation and is offering federa assistance to th investigation. >> we're following alabama also watching kentucky as well we also have no informatio there on who was responsible what are we learning >>, right still no idea on who is responsible, the headline there is that two people wer killed, at least five people were injured in that shooting. officials there saying that it happened at about 9:30 las night. in louisville,, kentucky apparently people at least someone or multiple people they don't know how many peopl were involved.

fired into a park that was ful of hundreds as they describe hundreds of people again, injuring five people an killing two. officials there don't have man more details beyond that they say the suspect still a large, but we heard from the governor there saying that thi has been a heartbreaking wee for that state, of course ther was a mass shooting on monda inside of a bank >> thank you so much, we appreciate you as the national guardsme accused of leaking classifie military documents awaits hi next hearing wednesday, or learning more about what those documents actual contained including the taiwan could b vulnerable to air attacks, beijing planning to -- to use on ukraine. and much more. nbc white house corresponden -- joins me now with more how concerned,, monica are w with the biden administratio about the sensitive informatio that's now becoming public knowledge? >> we have president biden whe

he was traveling in ireland couple days ago,, yasmin say that he wasn't that worried. the information in these classified documents wasn' contemporaneous. meaning, it wasn't from little bit of time ago but clearly, there is a pretty elevated concern here. now there's a majo investigation underway to tr and figure out why this youn airman had access to all o this information we know of course, he was an i.t. specialist but th question here and what i really a big part of thi inquiry, is why was he able to be able to access all of thi and then in some cases it seem -- post, it distribute it in th chat rome with some of his online gaming buddies this is prompted major political backlash as you ca imagine, but most have bee condemning this release of sensitive secrets. you did have one congresswoman marjorie taylor greene defending jack teixeria, and saying what he was doing was patriotic.

so, you have fellow republican senator, lindsey graham this morning responding to that assertion on the sunday shows. and talking specifically about what's at stake here >> what they're suggesting wil destroy america's ability to defend themselves. it's okay to release classifie information based on you political views. that the ends justify th means. it's not okay, if you're a member of the military intelligence community and you disagree with american policy, and you think you're gonna be okay when it comes to leaking classified information you're gonna go to jail. it's one of the most irresponsible statements you can make >>, so as the investigatio continues to play out here,, jasper and we know that th biden administration of federa government will take a close look at how they monitor certain chat rooms and socia media. a big take away from all o this is the fact that much o this information was out there for weeks before the pentago

even realized. it >> monica alba, companc you monica coming up later they are all speak to homeland security murderer sheila jackson lee, t get her thoughts on th classified documents lead. and the latest not shootings and much, much more. coming up first in just 60 seconds. our republican lawmaker in missouri is trying to walk bac a controversial comment abou 12 year old said marriage. i'll speak to the democratic colleague whose question led t the shocking comments in the first place. that's next! that's next! ♪ ♪ ♪♪ voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪♪ >> tech: when you have auto glass damage, trust safelite. voltaren. we'll replace your windshield, and recalibrate your advanced safety system. so automatic emergency braking and lane departure warning work properly. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ >> you voted no on making it

illegal for kids to be married to adults. at the age of 12 if their parents consent to it you said, actually, that shoul be the law because it's th parents right, and the kid's right to decide what's bed - to be raped by an adult. >> kids -- >> that was the law.

you voted not to change it >> do you know any kids have been married at age? 12 >> i don't need to. >> i do. and guess what they're still married. >> all, right that was republican missouri stat senator -- suggesting by the 12 year olds that should be allowed to ge married. the exchange came during a debate over legislation that would ban all gender affirming care for transgender kids. leader accused democrats o misleading the public on his opinion of minors. >> let me set the record straight i do not support adult marrying minors. in fact, if there is a instance in which an adult has recently married a minor in th state of missouri. only get a priority to remove, private adults from marrying minors furthermore, if a person i raped, no matter the age the rapist should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. >> i want to bring in now pete merideth, who just heard bring up the issue with the stat

senator there, to talk mor about that exchange. and where we are with things now. senator, meredith, thank you for joining us on this can you talk us through your thinking what was happening that day in the chamber? and the reason why - sorry, the reason why you felt it was important to ask that question bring that moment up >> we were debating a bill tha senator moon had filed and others have been pushing that would ban all medical treatments for kids that are trans. even with the parents consen -- and the doctors support in support of the medical community. odd thing back to us a debat that we had on the floor i 2018 where senator moon, representative, and 49 other republicans all state in opposition to a bill tha simply would've said, th government's not gonna give marriage license to make wha otherwise would be statutory rape only senator, moon said that it's a

parent's fundamental right and how dare government get in the way even if the parents ar gonna get it wrong sometimes how dare the government take away that decision they talk about freedom an parents rights all the time. i thought this was an importan way to highlight the hypocrisy of what they're doing righ now. on something unlike chil marriage or marrying an adult, or access to guns will b another example. in this, case it's something that is about the health of th kids and has the support of doctors >> essentially, you respect th parents and children's right to make the decision when it comes to marrying as minors, a stalled erupts, but you know respect the right when it come to gender affirming care >> when it doesn't fit their worldview, ultimately. >> got it if you had a chance to spea with state senator moon sinc the exchange, how did that go? >>, actually the next day he came over the house floor to talk to me about it after he had gone viral he tried to explain, i don't support adults marrying kids, just know these 12 year olds i got married and worked out

great. i said, senator, you can giv me one example of a 12-year-ol got married, and it may be worked out okay. but i can give you 50 examples of trans kids that were sittin in the room crying the other day saying, how grateful the are for the care they got. you can't tell me a single missourian, that's a trans person or a parent that saying hey, this is dangerous and needs to be. band, so you talk about freedo in this context. i'm just saying, at the very least be consistent. or respect what's healthy fo kids especially if you're gonna tal about protecting kids in this. all you're doing is hurtin them and in a different context - we weren't even willing to get on board with that or every day when we looked on whether kids can have access t guns in missouri, there is n minimum age to carry a gun dow the street, or to buy a gun on supervised there's no minimum age i missouri, they keep voting n on us trying to -- >> i love you're taking this behind the scenes. about this conversation yo had. this conversation with someone across the aisle who has completely different

opposite views from you. what was his response to all that >> it, now he dug in, he sai it's not about - he's convinced about protectin kids and he really isn't willing to listen to the kids, th parents. and the doctors, and the experts. because it just doesn't fi with his worldview now he asked if we can preserv the friendship, and trust and said,, senator trust we ca have but it's hard for me to call someone a friend when they g on and hurt kids and they aren't listening to parents, that are coming to us crying, begging, and you'r putting government in betwee them and their health, and medical decisions. >> it leaves us speechless state representative peter merideth, thank you so much. we appreciate it still ahead, after yet another pair of mass shootings, many are left wondering wil republicans ever agree to an gun safety measures. part of the conversation

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>> welcome back. we have more coverage now on t mass shootings that we'r covering one in alabama, that left at least four people dead and another in kentucky leaving to dad. it's coming i missed thi national discussion on gun safety following previous je -- in the past. and then a number of shootings over the last few months texas members and of sheil jackson lee, is a member of th homelands 30 and judiciary budget committees, and is here to talk more congresswoman, thank you for joining us on this we appreciate it after uvalde, we saw the massive legislation get across the aisle.

that the biden administratio had put together when it came to gun reform obviously, it did not go far enough considering where we ar yet again when it comes to mas shootings in this country. i was speaking with stat representative, peter merideth he took me behind the scenes t a conversation that he had would state senator moon whe it comes to trans rights in th state of missouri. when you have conversation with your colleagues across th aisle, behind the scenes, mayb not out in public. is there any movement, is ther any ability to get them to mov on gun reform in the country considering where we are >> let me offer my deepest sympathies to those recently who have been in the mix o vicious gun violence, usin assault weapons, and tha includes the tragedy and nashville, louisville, and alabama. i will say that there is a personal - desire to do what is right but they're so frightened abou

the potential of a primary, an you just saw a national rifl association add insult t injury by hauling in presidential candidates, and allowing them to pontificate to complain, to scream about over their dead bodies wil well they eliminate and engage in any form if you will of gun safety regulations that does not make any sense the answer the question to you the question simply is, th question simply as whether or not the can overcome that. we've had an even stronger - the biden administration, had stronger bell. that was protect our kids. we had mandatory red flag laws we had issues dealing with ghost guns just a number of things that feast people [inaudible] in terms of gun violence we couldn't get that fast we had a weekend --

i think the key that we need t do right now is to ban assault weapons. they are vicious, weapons of war, and there's no reason and i believe kevin mccarthy needs to put that bill on the floo of the house, and let -- >>, so that's what you believe should happen. do you have any hope that ther will be any movement from th right on any of this or talking about red flag lies my if my memory serves m correctly, in the recent gun legislation that got across th finish line after uvalde, ther was incentive. you put red flag laws in place in your state. you get a pot of gold. you get some money to help institute those laws a state like nashville, a stat like tennessee, they didn't do that they don't have red fla laws in place. is there any possibility for movement >> i think if you care about your city, your county, your state. if you're a public servant tha my belief is that you should d what's best for the people

and what i was saying to you i that - in my committee, m subcommittee [inaudible we made red flag law mandatory. we talked with ghost guns. and we voted out of the hous to ban assault weapons so i'm hopeful, maybe someone moderate republican will go to the leader, the speaker of the house and say, how much more violence, how much more carnag are we gonna - this party in alabama, we don' yet know who, what, where. but they were teenagers. how are we gonna suffer throug that, what's the answer we giv to our children into our families and as you well know, gu violence is the number one killer of children, and th number one killer of african american children and minority children enough is enough i'm going back with th attitude that we just cannot - so is the leader of our caucus

and that's hakeem jeffries we're joining in with th advocate for gun safet legislation. and we won't be silent we're gonna keep going there's much to do >> we'll be watching of course as you try and make thos moves. with the return to washington. talk to me about the leake documents out of the pentagon? your concerns on this, the revelations that the inner thinking of the government right now that we're learnin from these leaked documents. and how could affect our standing on the world stage? >> i will affect our standin on the world stage absolutely it's almost like having a best friend, and you have confidenc to tell that best friend you deepest secrets, how horribl it would be to see those secrets in a newspaper or on social media that's what i think our allies and friends, and there are allies and friends, but in order to collaborate intelligence is a national security part. of our nation. we have our military, we hav

arms, but intelligence is what allows us to keep american safe and i just want to, say afte going through the incident with snowden, we really though as members of congress that we can put in the firewalls i will point the finger, zoologists say, we hel accountable. we have to hear from the pentagon, we need to hear from -- massachusetts national guard we need to wonder why this 19-year-old was given such access why there's no firewalls to do so and let me be clear, there' no sympathy for this young man he came from a military family he's 21, he's aged majority. he needs to go to jail i proven that he's intentionally violated the sanctity an sacred-y of national securit intelligence, talking about -- soldiers on the ground i ukraine. whether he's anti-war or not people who are activists, wh oppose issues ankle against th government are willing to face the consequences he did this, this was hi values, those were his values.

they are not the values that w can protect under any of - uncertainty, my colleagues are absolutely - [inaudible about her assessment of what this individual has done >> representative sheila jackson lee, we thank you. up next everybody, i look at t supreme court deadline for a decision on the key abortion pill rulings and a top republican donor i rethinking supports around desantis after it signed int florida law, your total ban on abortion how this could spell bad new for his potential presidential run. that's coming up, next

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when congress returns tomorrow much of the attention to b focused on a few blocks from the capital, supreme court which late friday temporaril paused a court order that woul have limited the use of th most common abortion drug, mifepristone that was the same day nearly every congressional democrat urged the supreme court to block all restrictions to th medication nbc's julie tsirkin, is joinin us from capitol hill for mor on this. julie, what's the reaction specifically from democrats to friday's decision? from the supreme court >> most democrats signed on to that because there are som notable exceptions that includ senator, joe manchin for example.

who's one of the reasons why it's gonna be really hard, nearly impossible for them t do any kind of legislation whe it comes to this but, look they want the suprem court to permanently stay th case, that would keep some o the restrictions from goin into place which include limiting acces to this medication abortion, women having to go to thei doctor to get the pill instead including taking a generic option off the market. which would just primarily overwhelmingly impact lo income americans but democrats are pushing back on this. even in states where they're u for reelection i'm talking about senator tamm baldwin of wisconsin, her stat actually has a criminal penalt on the books that woul penalize women - if they want to get an abortion that's being prevented fro going into effect by the democratic governor. but it's certainly something t watch. take a listen to what baldwi had to say to -- this morning >> i'm certainly glad for th five days. what we have in texas. what is a judge who isn'

guided by science. but it is part of an extreme republican concerted effort to ban abortion nationwide. and we don't need judges politicians, our governmen telling women about what sor of health care they can have >> that's the message that's gonna continue to dominate thi next week, particularly, wednesday and thursday when the supreme court decides in this case i think it's really interestin in talking to republican strategists behind the scene for example. as this continues to move to more national spaces, becaus this medication aborts is woul affect states that did not pas their own regulation or restriction for example, in new york a handful of republicans wer actually able to flip seat this last midterm election they represent a lot of modern republicans who would be furious of something like this went into effect i think you're gonna continu to see democrats holding the

feet to the fire, doin everything they can to kee this on the forefront. particularly, because so man of them especially in th senate are up for reelection and they already see how they benefited from this abortion conversatio in the last election they expect that to go forward in 2020. for >> julie tsirkin, than you. the abortion issue isn't onl playing out in congress, top republican contenders for th white house are alread stumbling when asked even th most basic questions about abortion namely, what federal restrictions on abortion today support. and that's not to mention florida governo ron desantis says new extrem six-week abortion man. i want to bring in matthew dowd, -- an msnbc political analyst matthew, thank you for joining us we appreciate i think yesterday, we played the sounds of tim scott, stumbling back and forth tha wanted to go on the record o where he'd stand if you ar president of interstates whe it came to a federal abortio ban, - ron desantis, we know, signe this extreme bell out of

florida. you have an approved rate fo incest if you want to get an abortion passed six weeks, but before the deadline of 1 weeks. but how are republicans gonn be able to defend where they are when it comes to abortio heading into a presidentia election considering where w are as a country of? >> the problem they have i what appeals to the small base most of the republican primary is completely out of sync with the vast majority of the american public. that's why you come up with th word i salads, like tim scot has. they want to try an appeal t that base, which wants the mos extreme measures related t freedom of choice for women. but i think they simultaneousl know deep down, it's a losin general election they watched what happened i 2020, they saw what happened i 2022 they saw what happened in th supreme court, last month. or this month. in west conson

and it's a very, a ver difficult spot the republicans have put themselves in as well you simultaneously appeal to a small minority you're offending the vas majority of voters >> i gotta, say it seems a though desantis is losing some support, specifically financia support. we're hearing some reporting from the financial times, th hungarian american billionaire thomas peterffy, telling the financial times this, i pu myself on hold while discussin the financing desantis - 's stance on abortion. and book banning myself in a bunch of friends are holding our powder dry >> what does this tell you, if you? >> i think desantis is one o those people that on paper everybody thought, he's a grea candidate, he's a popula governor of a swing state. he's - to the republicans he strongly got independen

votes in his reelection when h won overwhelmingly the problem is that pape doesn't run for president. you have a person that runs fo president. and as he stepped off into the light, he showed himself not very capable, i stink it's one as you pointed out, it's a problem with social issues among some republicans especially, some republica donors but it's also a problem, h doesn't function well right now. we saw that with previou governors, rick perry an others who didn't do well when they stepped on the big stage. >> i gotta, say i think it's a good point, if you take a look at what peterffy said, it seem as though it's maybe more abou capability, considering wher they stand on some of th issues that desantis i championing. many of them agree with what desantis is doing. , so if the republican donor they're gonna donate to one wa or another it's gonna come down to who' more capable of winning th white house. matthew dowd, great to talk to

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of sudan we've been following. the leaders of the two militar forces who have been engaged i a violent struggle for power this weekend agreed to a temporary cease fire thi afternoon. both parties agreeing to a three-hour humanitarian pause, following a proposal from th added nations. that lasting till 7 pm local time it has been a devastatin weekend in the country at least 56 civilians have bee killed in cross fire between the sudanese army at the paramilitary organization know as the rapid support forces. the u.s. department ar confirming that american currently in sudan are safe an accounted for.

and there are no evacuations currently planned. the ukrainian armed forces are engaged in a continued and unprecedented bloody fight let's start, if we can, matt with this prisoner exchang that took place. >> the ukrainians are callin it the great eastern exchang and they're saying that 13 ukrainians are being returne from russian custody unusually, we're not actuall hearing anything about how man russians are being sent over from the ukrainian custody and yasmin, this is no something that is so unusual but there's been a couple of exchanges since the war bega

14 months ago. there is some daylight among the deep depths we are hearing between these two sides. there were hundred ukrainian who were sent back to ukrain from russia, so it just goes t show that yes, while we ar continuing to seize bloody battles as you mentioned i bakhmut and elsewhere, throughout the front sprawling front line in the east, ther is some room for talking and progress >> take us to bakhmut, and the that battle we have been seein near there and how that' playing out. >> i'm glad you asked abou that because this is the battle this is a decisive battle that a lot of military analysts and others who are observing thi

described as the battle that will shape the rest of thi war. and it's not over an important or strategic location. it is just another city in the east, but this was unprecedented and a bloody battle in bakhmut. that really is something tha you could use to describe this entire war they are describing this ove the past several decades, with another bloody attack that struck civilian targets. 15 were dead, 24 were injured. so yes, we are talking about a continued awful killing of civilians. >> we thank, you matt. after the, break everybody the good liars head to the nra convention in trying to us facts in the face of gun rights

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times more likely to die o homicide if there is a gun i your house >> that's probably a statistic that was created using a boo called how to lie with statistics >> people point out, there are 100 20.5 guns per 100 people i the united states. why isn't the safest country o earth? >> i believe because the schoo systems are destroying thi country now. and they behavior that happens in this country has change dramatically, in my lifetime >> okay. but the number of guns doesn't have to do with the incident of gun violence? >> i don't believe so it all i don't believe that >> it just happens to be at th country with the most guns has a much gun violence? >> you had a sign. what did that sign say >> guns save lives >> guns to save lives? >> yes sir >> so you believe guns to save lives? >> in most situations, yes

they do. >> in other situations, not so much >> they all -- a gun candles people in al situations but certain circumstances, i the right circumstances they d save lives >> so the guns save lives, except for the 40,000 people that die every year from firearms in united states? >> i agree that is a problem but it's the bad guys. >> joining me now, usually w are talking about more lighthearted things than wha the two of you are covering. it's hard to do that on a da like today, when we are waking up and talking all day about two more mass shootings in thi country. and i'm always called in t cover these mass shootings especially when it involve children, and it's heartbreaking and really frustrating. so i will start with you, when

you go to a place like the nra convention and you're talkin to folks like we just showed and your hearing what they say it's got to be frustrating for you. >> it is, it is. we had a lot of conversations, i would say, that had the same few beats to them. just trying to confront people with facts, see what they ha to say about it. and why is it that in this country, with the most guns in the world, we have most mass shootings in the world there was every other reason under the sun, we need mor good guys with guns, peopl point out that there are mor guns total which leads to more gu violence it doesn't matter. there are too many gun fre zones, mental health is th problem. don't other countries have mental health issues sure but they would keep pivoting and pivoting anything but the guns for thes people >> jason, i want to play for folks this exchange that you had.

with this kind of way in which they go about saying everything else is a problem except guns. right? let's watch some of that, an then we will talk. >> the wokeism in the united states for these people that are going around, saying tha if a kid says -- >> the thing that will sto shootings? >> i think it's a start. all that stuff >> as it happened? people said they are dogs an cats in schools? >> they put litter boxes out for them in schools. >> i think that that's not true, actually those are not true >> i think it is true. and i think if you did you reporting, you find out it's true honestly just look it up. look up furries. >> okay. i will look up flurries. the only thing i see there for highland, illinois, is locke down - five students in custody it looks like there were reports of a gun in the school >> they always are calling and false reports.

here's another one about the cats a school district has been hit with rumors saying tha students identify as cats ar allowed to use litter boxes in the restrooms. this is what you're talkin about. the superintendent said it got so bad she has to send - the rumor that our schools hav litter box and restrooms recommit individuals who are self identifying as animals, this is simply and emphaticall not true >> according to them >> i've got to give you credit jason, for going down this rabbit hole. giving it a good all try, of trying to tell this individual this man, and that what he was saying is not true and it's been debunked over an over again but again, he didn't believe it despite what you showed him, and despite the fact that he told you to look it up and you did look it up that's exactly what you found. it was not true. >> yeah. and it reminded me of what happened last year the nra convention and before we went on, i looke up the amount of mass shooting

since the last nra convention, which i was at less than a yea ago. and it was less than 365 day ago, but it was 589 mass shootings in the united states i hope i have those number right. but a similar thing happened i houston, where they sit that - we looked up in front of them. proven wrong, and he still sai he was going to continue telling people that hammer kill more people and guns. this guy said the exact same thing. he was going to continue telling people that thes students were identifying as cats, and using litter boxes even though it has bee debunked many times in several different school districts around the country but it was the same thing we heard over and over again. the school shooting was that there aren't enough guns if you just say that sentence,

it really doesn't make tha much sense >> you came up to th microphone, we just played a little bit again earlier and we talked about how -- we were joking about it, right iven thoughts and prayers, and that's what he was doing they didn't necessaril recognize what you are doing o why you are there. but i am hearing that you were the guy to go, this time around, you went to the microphone and make your own plea we definitely still got a fe words out, but we're sorting through the footage in the las couple of days but yeah,, jason all that yo comment on that.

so this niche was actually given, it was just after i that you are found out but they've also taken picture at this point, so th likelihood of your returning t the nra seems pretty low >> never say never >> we were back in our later there you go we appreciate you guys durham, jason, thank you both. that wraps it up for me, i wil be back in the chair nex saturday and sunday 2 pm eastern. and a reminder to watch th start of the six-part series leguizamo does america tonight right here on msnbc me simone starts right now. >> greetings, everyone you're watching symone this week, we await the next move on the abortion pill. with a reproductive rights hanging in the balance republicans have i