given, it was just after i that you are found out but they've also taken picture at this point, so th likelihood of your returning t the nra seems pretty low >> never say never >> we were back in our later there you go we appreciate you guys durham, jason, thank you both. that wraps it up for me, i wil be back in the chair nex saturday and sunday 2 pm eastern. and a reminder to watch th start of the six-part series leguizamo does america tonight right here on msnbc me simone starts right now. >> greetings, everyone you're watching symone this week, we await the next move on the abortion pill. with a reproductive rights hanging in the balance republicans have it that -

senator amy klobuchar joins me in studio to weigh in on that, plus new ethics concerns about justice clarence thomas. and other hot button issue facing the senate, as they return to work this week and tennessee representative justin j. pearson is back on the job in the state house i will ask him about being bac at work with the sam republicans who expelled him and where his fight for gu safety reform stands now i have something to say. congress is back in sessio tomorrow after a two-week break, and they have their work cut out for them judicial nominations in th senate, controversy in a supreme court. but first, we are discussing a case that could have drastic

effects on peoples lives one of a two pill treatmen used to terminate a pregnanc in its first two weeks it has been in circulation for more than two decades. it is a safety record of 99% it is the nation's most common method of abortion a single judge in texas has pu that axis in jeopardy. judge matthew casimir ha suspended food and dru administration's approval of the drug earlier this week giving the government a week t appeal they did, to the court o appeals. that order was then narrowly agreed with by the fifth circuit. so the order was then block by the supreme court. justice samuel alito, went all the way until this upcomin wednesday. that's when the high court wil decide whether to keep mifepristone available while the appeals process continue to play out. 85 years ago, congress passe

the fda with a crucial responsibility to determine the safety an effectiveness of medication an abortions. all kinds of medications, okay congress recognized the body o experts, not themselves, and certainly not one judge should be making these life or deat determinations you name, it could be on the chopping block are you comfortable delegating your medicine to someone who d their own research here to discuss all of this an more is democratic senator and member of -- senator amy klobuchar of minnesota. this is a point that you and

other senators have made you signed on to it with a supreme court. >> the reason are smiling as you're doing such a good job simone, of going through jus what a huge deal this is then you have the other side and that says, if you allow, i and he said it so well if one judge does this i amarillo, texas, to other trum appointees from the fift circuit. basically saying hey, we don't like the ten weeks how about lipitor, i would add to the mix any kind of drug this judge, o

maybe some other judge doesn't like this is not what congress said congress gave the fda the powe to make these kinds of decisions, and by the way, and the american medical association, not exactly a radical group. they have said this. they actually said, and i quote, there is no evidence tha people are harmed by havin access to the safe and effective medication >> if the medication has bee in rotation for more than 20 years. i think it's an untenabl situation for women, depending on where you live. you either have access to th care you need or you don't so you have spoken about litigation to address this issue. what should women do in th meantime aggressive litigation take time and there have care there not able to access >> we have done a good job turning out and voting in thos last mid turn.

that's one of the major reason we still have the senate which allows us, starting when we ge back tomorrow, you start confirming a whole bunch o judges but this is still going to b on the ballot in 2024. as you know, different state are debating from the mess tha happened in florida with the six-week ban they are looking a criminalizing doctors an criminalizing women for making this decision. it's going to be a state b state vote, but it's also goin to be a federal vote because the president will b on the ballot. the republicans have bee definitely silent on this front, since this crazy decision came out. making it clear to people wher they stand

if they do uphold a ruling, yo talk about yes, there is a rol to play in 2024. we haven't even had the firs primary of elections, let alon the first debates happenin let's not forget there is case and washington state, which covers my state and 17 others then you have what can congres do the women's health protectio act would forever summoned roe v. wade, it codify roe v. wade into law we've got strong democrati support under nancy pelosi's leadership

the only thing i think stoppin it is the filibuster in th senate, which i would change then you could also do mor when it comes to the fda but we will cross that bridg when we come to it, because am not going to rule out tha the supreme court will lif this from the fifth circuit, and from the federal georgia amara lowe why? because they have always interpreted your ability to su on these kinds of things narrowly, including justic scalia's own words in the past they have a group that doesn't represent the american medical association, that's come forward and said, hey, we have moral issues without is that harm or anticipate home to the individual i don't think so let's watch to see that's what he is to get out of the mess created by these three trump appointed judges

you talked about confirmin judges lots of conversation in th news, and he himself has admitted months ago in press reports it has been difficul to confirm judges given th absence of senator diane feinstein. i think right now, according t the american constitutio society, we know 14 judicial nominees are waiting to be reported out of committee. now, nbc news has yet to confirm this, but it i reported that senator schume this we will put a resolutio on the floor to temporaril fill senator feinstein's sea on the senate judiciar committee. she has been asked to do that, it's reported he's going to do that when is that going to happen and if so, do you all have the votes to have it confirmed v unanimous consent? are we talking with hi filibuster situation >> that is a play.

but let me give you the fact as i see it. number one, and she did th right thing saying she would step away from that committee. we need the votes, i'm on that committee. we have unable to confir judges for a month we can't do markups on legislation, that's when w pass the legislation number two, i talked to senato schumer last week. he made very clear he was goin to do this as soon as possible number three, it does need 6 votes. but if you look at the past, and i'm going way back here. but when bob dole resigned fro the senate to run for president, unanimous votes from the senator to fill those. there was a juggling >> but that scenario is resignation. senator feinstein is ver unclear, she's not resigning there is a recent scenario you've got senator - in nebraska. >> i am hoping they will do th right thing. if they don't then we will dea

with that at the moment. given that she is recovering from shingles, they themselves have members out for lon periods of time. why would they do this if they don't, we will have to deal with it then. but we will need ten republicans to be able to pu that over the top. >> i want to talk to you about clarence thomas before we go do you think that a woma should replace undefined sound the committee? >> i am not going to weigh i on who should replace or on th committee. i think that is senator schume 's call, and i have such great faith and my colleagues that i really could be anyone >> that's a very diplomati answer look, there's lots o conversation in the news about the lack of reports from the supreme court justice, clarence thomas, on hi financial relationship with mega donor, a republican megadonor. you had said earlier today that there needs to be som

ethics rules and they need t be clear and enforceable you said that if the supreme court doesn't do this, congres will do it what does enforceable look like? if the supreme court is doing, it because can we expect the to police themselves >> the federal judiciary, ever other federal judge in the country has these ethics rules that they also have a counse and people that are looking at them and telling them if the do wrong, and holding them accountable. that has to happen on th supreme court. they actually need some kind o mechanism beyond themselves. and what has happened, the new gets more and more troublesome he was claiming that it was an exception because it was a friendship it didn't develop until afte he was a justice on the suprem court. you can't claim that with this property the property has to be reported, there is no exception for bein buddy buddy with someone there is nothing it just has to be reported under the law.

if it's over $1, 000, for an kind of real estat transaction. and he reported literall getting tires. he reported that he benefite from the sale of this house an the rehab of this house, and surrounding properties and we don't even know wha else there is, which is wh we've called for a investigation. >> is the senate judiciary committee holding hearings i don't know exactly what da it is. it might be the week after thi week, that's up to the senator durbin but we have to have a hearing, and i would hope it would be i the next few weeks >> we are out of time. senator amy klobuchar, we will have to have you back. because i want to know about justice clarence thomas. >> senator amy klobuchar, than you very much. it's great to see you. this week, folks, there is mor happening in congress. house republicans are taking a road trip to new york.

it looks like they are tryin to meddle in the manhattan investigation of donald trump. next, representative justin j. pearson joins me fresh off the reinstated tennessee state house. he's going to talk about his next moves but first, richard louis i here richard, what if you got >> simone, back at you a very good sunday, stories we are following this hour. four people are dead in multitude of people were injured at a teenager' birthday party in alabama. they did not save any custod -- but there is no public safet risk the shooting does not represen that community tomorrow, the dominion fox new trial gets underway in delaware this defamation case wil determine whether the medi company could be hel financially responsible fo pushing false claims about voting machines during the 202 election in a new statement, they say the lawsuit is a political

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louisville and dadeville alabama, after a series of deadly shootings in last week. and the list is growing. there have been 20 men shootings since tennesse lawmakers were expelled from their jobs earlier this month. those numbers are according to the archive. this stark reality onl underscores were choosin pearce were footing for th first place. and also laura johnson, after deadly mass shooting i nashville. and now that the pair are back at work in the state house they have vowed to continue th fight. others seem more and angry tha republican lawmakers - judging by a racist call tha is circulating and was obtaine by -

nbc news hasn't independentl confirmed the call, but they accused the representatives of leading a violent mob into the capitol and tries to paint the legislators as dangerous it's an age old playbook of do whistles against black americans who speak up tennessee state representative state pearson joins me now t discuss. representative pierson, than you for being here first, what was your reactio to this robocall >> first, thank you. the reality is, a lot of peopl in the tennessee republica party are more interested in race baiting and using racis against -- then addressing the real issue of gun violence. the reality is, we are livin in an epidemic of gun violence as you've mentioned.

legislators across the south and across the country are trying to affect peoples lives the conversation is abou legislation, govern abilit after the demonstrations they have called on th legislature to pass red flag laws do you have an update on tha legislation? have you seen any bills come t the floor? >> the governor said he woul like to see their legislatur do something but he did not provide much to go on for the republican party the worry i have as we are going to continue to see the proliferation of our democracy

by people in positions o power. who really are not concerned about doing things that benefi children or communities, eve at the behest of the governor. because they are mor interested in turning ou democracy into a mobocracy where mob rules. it gives them control over others and that is the culture that exists within the tennessee house, it has to b reformed my self and representative jones have 15-year bills reinstated and i am dedicated to making sure all 15 bills are relate to the legislation we are going to put forward re flag laws and legislation that would prevent these tragedies. >> prior to having a conversation with yourself representative jones, an representative johnson i spoke

with some of the democrati leadership in the house and in the senate and they told m then that right after th shooting happened, republicans came to them saying they wan to work on a bill together and that they have been workin on a bill. do you have any knowledge of those conversations? what is the democratic caucu saying now we have the governor calling for it where is the bill? >> there are a few pieces of legislation that the representative - they are working on to get i out of the committee i do know for myself, i ca speak to what we are about t do we will have several pieces of legislation that speak to riskyt thursday >> we will be watching for

that sir, before we go i have reall just been inspired by the unit between you and your fiancée. you both have navigated thes past few weeks together. i had the opportunity to seein you in person. can you speak to the strengt that you have given each other as this has unfolded and wha is next after this upcomin week you have time in the legislature given that this is almost over. >> they are truly the love o my life. and i'm looking forward to her being my wife. she has been a remarkable life partner, and a supporter and i can make you support and share her on she has been a rock for, me an i'm a cry right now. but she is everything and a ba of chips

she and i, and our district, our family, our family is a bi part of this movement and we are looking for too often in eight -- to whole community session with them and our high schools locally. to learn what it is that students want to see happening in their schools and although the legislative session is for a period of time, four months in tennessee, th work is consistent and so in addition t legislation that we put forward, we're going to have committe conversations here people who are being impacte by gun violence. and not just in our schools, but people who - now that you are seeing th impact of gun violence to push forward the policy a the state level. >> all right we will leave it there tennessee state representative justin j. pearson. we appreciate your time, sir >> always, simon thank you. >> thank you coming, up folks there are many americans who are frustrated with the wa

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is back in session tomorrow. and this is what republicans o the house judiciary committe decided shekel first they are headed to the big

apple, manhattan, to go to manhattan district attorney. the committee, including som democratic members, will host field hearing about crime. also on capitol hill this week we've got kevin mccarthy he's on a race against time. and seacrest unifies robin calling, ski must also avoid any missteps that could cost him the speakership. remember, all it takes is on member to trigger a vote o confidence in mccarthy joining me now, to break thi all down and more of that is - april ryan is here she is at thegrio, and also an msnbc contributor. former republican is also here he's hosted the michae singleton show us sirius xm. and here in spirit is reverend

stephen greene he's the chair of faith fo black lives. thank you for being here i want to start with thi hearing in new york city because as these house republicans on the judiciary committee, led by jim jordan they say they have to examin how these policies have led to an increase in violent crime i the city now, the most serious crimes did increase in 2021 in 2022 homicides and shootings have decreased by double digits is this just a farce is this an attempt by some o these republicans to yet again a medal in what d.a. bragg i doing in trying to intimidat him? >> intimidation is the word. intimidation in this momen when donald trump, forme president united states go impeached twice. he's been indicted how man times? and he's been arranged more is coming so it's once again an event by republicans to try to downplay or diminish what is before

them the rule of law has been broken, whether it was with a porn star, or whether it was changing the results in georgia for the president of the election. and guess what, you both kno this nothing can be done, because the republicans are what in charge of the house >> at this point, they are i charge of the house and it speaker mccarthy, who says h has the command of his caucus. but i have questions this debt ceiling fight is a real one we've been talking about thi for, it feels like, the last five months. we are inching closer an closer without any progress. so is speaker mccarthy going t be able to, one, put a budge together because as the white house i saying, show us your budget, w show you ours. and number two, is he -- >> they are going to release something this week. i want to see what's in it, actually want to see whether o not he can get all republicans in the caucus to agree wit him. because some republicans are

saying, we will not agree to anything unless there is som extreme cuts the reality is we have the passes for deaths of the past. we cannot -- and current debts to if they had a contingency plan in place and my presumption is, i things hit to the fan, tha plan will come into place. now people realize what this means. social security, private contractors. the government bills will no be paid. how will the stock market reac to this? i will international markets react to this? we are literally the platinu standard, if you will, as it pertains to financials acros the world. and so simone, i think republicans really have to b smart about this we've got 2024 coming up dozens of senators are up fo reelection ditto senators actually want t talk about the campaign trail? and how they cannot pass a budget it will not look good. >> it won't look good for th implications that ar happening. and bigger picture, bigger tha

this week. there is really a growin feeling that the will of voter across the country, especially when we talk about young voters, is being ignored by lawmakers. let's look at abortion first in march, you had a national poll of registered voters. it found that women oppose tha decision by better than -- 2 to 1 for women under 30, th opposition was even more pronounced state by state, we are seein the state legislatures i don't have to tell, you know what's going on. chipping away at women's right to make decisions about our ow bodies so where is the disconnect do they think this is a winnin issue? >> i think you're right, simone thank you for having me. what we are seeing is a tax on our democracy. we have to face the fact tha abortion rights and gun control, and action on gun control, a well as threats on votin rights are all tied together i a single government destiny. there are threats to our democracy. these are authoritarian tactic that are being used in our country and through stat

legislatures we saw the abortion ban at six weeks in florida we are seeing that these threats as they relate to ou democracy are at a critica point. we are at an inflection moment in our country, and it require congress and the president t be able to do everything the can to fight on behalf of th attorney general we are hoping that they will intervene in tennessee, as w saw what happens with th tennessee three. and also, trying to push bac on what is happening across th country. and what we are seeing is also the mass mobilization in the streets. we have people who are committed to fighting fo reproductive justice and gun control, fighting fo democracy. coming together, and we can' be operating in silos anymor if we're going to redeem the soul of america. >> this point about the silo is important

with gun safety legislation, they have been tracking youn people for years and in that particular poll, they found that 63% of young americans support stricter gun safety legislation but then, we look at tennessee where the governor, again, the governor of tennessee has made the executive order, and tha is significant the state legislature has ye to move. april, i just spoke to a state representative and he is talking about what they're going to do on thursday. i know you've been talking t folks down in tennessee as well >> yes, i talk to the senate minority leader and she said look, republicans are so upset about all this they have now, instead o having a full month session, 3 days left, they are no cramming accession into a week they've got a week left. they are going to end on saturday, but now they'r ending on friday meaning that the only thin that they think they are going to get through is the stat budget

nothing on guns. republicans are that upset and so what does this do this moves this passionate issue right now to the nex session. so they are hoping that they will take some of the steam ou of it in this moment >> let me just say this. we are almost out of time here but this is motivating peopl who do not - they are not usually politically active but also young people, who say i am getting engaged and involved in tennessee, the equity vic president told me that they hi their voter registration goals for the year last week what republicans - >> you know where i stand on fire arms. when we talk about the positives of this? let's recall what happened i wisconsin with abortion. it was won by 1 million votes, 11%. now, when you look at the si battleground states and yo start looking at what it looks -- and you start talking about an 11% increase on top of wha biden got before i don't see how you can wi that in 2024, you might as wil pack your bags and go home

>> well, we will be watching and waiting, and reveren stephen grain, we missed you here today i appreciate you all and you insights very much thank you. >> thank you for having us >> up next, folks, florida governor ron desantis signed a law on the six-week abortion ban. we are going to dig into how the impact of this law could stretch way beyond the sunshin statesor bders d all night. prilosec otc reduces excess acid for 24 hours, blocking heartburn before it starts. one pill a day. 24 hours. zero heartburn. meet the outdoorsies. wayfair's outdoor bl deal experts.rn before it starts. the gardener... goes to wayfair for gardening basics that... aren't so basic. the entertainer... her place might look expensive. don't let it fool you.

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and our rights to make decisions but our bodies florida is one of a doze states that has approved a ban on most abortion after six weeks. that is when most women don' even know they are pregnant. rhonda scent just signed the law into law on thursday if this ban takes effect thi summer, it would basically close off access to abortion i the south. north and south carolina remai the only exceptions, as we hav this conversation. but they could impose their ow tighter restrictions in th future for more on florida's ban an re-life implications for thi decision, we want to bring i -- she is a health reporter for the nightly news you are like the guru an what's happening on this if i can just say so myself. so florida had a band, in th decide that wasn't good enough and they instituted this

six-week ban talk about the regiona implications, if you will. >> this is stunning. in the past year, we have seen the number of abortions in florida go up by close to 40%. the latest numbers are 670 more abortions in 2022 i florida, compared to 2021. and it's because it was th place to go. it was the only place. if you look at a map of th southeast, south of th carolinas, it was the only place where abortion was legal now that's gone, and what yo are going to see is for this entire part of the country there are two states where abortion is legal. there are fewer than 20 clinic in those two states, to se everyone in that region. the math doesn't work. what we will see is people being forced to travel t virginia, to d.c., to wherever the cheapest flight can take them and what we have to find out and what we're not sure if thi is even true, will there b enough slots will there be enough appointments will there be enough doctors t care for everyone who was goin

to florida for so long >> oh my goodness. with his law that passed, an actually does have exception for rape and incest. but you have reporting, yo have share the clinics and - they say that those exceptions actually won't work. talk to us about why and are their actual exceptions >> there are nominal exception have 12 weeks. this is what we commonly see abortion bans, rape and incest abortions are frankly kind of myth they are so onerous that mos people that are survivor cannot satisfy them. you need a police report o proof of a restraining order against the assailant. people don't have those, peopl are rare to report sexua assault at all and the ide that they would be able to get an abortion through thes exceptions, no clinic believes it >> and the florida law, yo need proof of a police report? >> a police report >> okay. okay so, that is the point, i think a lot of people would argu that advocates for health care

that people need for a abortion would say that making abortion illegal and inaccessible across the countr is really what the underlyin goal is here does your reporting square wit that >> >> that is certainly what w have seen in florida if we can zoom out a little bit, two years ago, this kind of ba would have been unthinkable. two years ago the florid legislature couldn't pass 20-week ban, - leading up to dobbs because six-week ban is unpopular. a 15-week ban wasn't fifth wasn't popular there and yet somehow in the short period of time we've gone from a state where abortion is legal up t 22, 24 weeks, to one where i is virtually impossible to obtain >> now, the ban has not gone into place yet even the governor desantis did sign, it there are potentially legal challenges there is one legal challenge t the 15-week ban being hear right now, just talk about the lay of the land, what the la is on these pieces o legislation. >> in 1989, the florida'

supreme court, it helped their -- implicit in the text and that is now being revisite under the 15-week ban case what we know is the florid state supreme court has shifte to the right governor ro desantis there is an expectation agains many abortion providers an abortion activist in the state that the supreme court will no -- allow the 15-week ban to sta in effect as it already is and after that ruling, i believe the text of the la says 30 days following we will see the six-week ban tick fact as well. that is likely sometime next summer >> sometime this summer. she finally, thank you for you reporting. this is depressed me it is important for people t know what is happening this is not hyperbolic this is actually what is going on in america. >> absolutely as thanks for talking to me about this >> thank you we will have you back. charlie lu throw, thank yo very much. all right y'all, well, i wil bring you, i will bring you up the question i want to ask i -- we will dig into the tee on th

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entertainment contributor. okay, chris, i will start with you. this is the first time there will be a live reunion for a love is blind. they have never done thi before i am an avid watcher since the first season i think it will be spicy what do you think we are going to see unfold tonight? >> - but it should be called love i real, because they are bringin the love - that couple right there, the are going to bring in so man -- to your point, the second time that netflix is doing a live broadcast. i think it is interesting to think about the parallel between comedy with chris walk right, the humor and then love those things are universal and -- breaking records yet again wit how these live events ar tonight. i'm so here for it >> i mean, i will tell you, will be tuned in because i nee to see how it goes down. leah, this particular season and i finished watching it las night, it was a whirlwind of drama. the streets are saying it is the messiest season yet.

kudos to the cast. they need to raise from the left square between chelsea, quame and micah, an then you have the paul and the a remus mean girl antics, an then the problematic debacle that is jackie -- just jackie. who -- villain. >> scandal, scandal, scandal i can't stop talking about o my timeline. i can't wait till tonight. first of all, i am so happy to see brad tiffany we need black women be don well in the shows. he was a former contestant o love this blind, she said sh didn't like the way she al black women treated on thi franchise. so it is refreshing to see a black woman being loved and black woman being treasured, vast force, in a healthy black relationship so i hope we see this live catch up, that everything is still going well with them because i think we also se that returning in the ratings. when people are rooting fo them so i just pray that, pleas stay together.

i too am rooting for tiffany and brett, love is blind i currently casting for its next season in d.c. they have yet to find anybody. i feel like people don't wan to use their securit clearances we will see how it works out i want to turn now to anothe hit show i'm talking about hbo' succession now, succession is in hi fourth and final season. and many fans are fired up i the group chats about, headlines are spoiling so far, the shows most shocking moment before people have to watch it i hate spoilers. i just try to steer clear of them for you on the show steer clear of them on socia media. streaming, i think, it's mad it a little harder for new outlets to hold the water. so chris, i feel like we can a least get a week to watc before these outlets release everything, honey, or at least fix headline >> simone, i am giving side i. to the editors that are at publications like the l.a. times that put out an obituary

on the person who died normally the streets are talking, people on twitter giving it away, not bi publications doing that. and it is so important t remember the word embargo. we excess a lot of this conten early on, i'm watching thing on netflix and hbo max - spill the tea, i weigh in lati america watch and enjoy it together i think it is just so important, the show in particular, they have seven more episodes to go please don't ruin, editors please let people -- their time >> let us watch succession and peace. now, the, i am in the camp wit chris. but there are people in th streets that would say, look you need to watch on time. you know what time successio comes on, you know what time are shows come on, you kno when the new episode is, tun in and let the rioters right what say you >> see, i'm a little torn. i am the girl who waits to watch and then when i see th spoiler sometimes it will make me be like, okay, i will check in i am like, well, it seems like the streets think this i great. because maybe i'm on the fence but when i'm watching th

actual show and i'm really invested, i am at. i am at. i block it on twitter. it will pop up on your timeline because now it is gettin ridiculous especially if it is headline on major outlets >> it is so crazy. i'm the person that if y'all stop talking about it i say, i've been seen it, shut it down so please folks, if seen in th streets, you need to ask me if i've seen succession or th latest episode of abbott elementary before you come tal to me about this stuff leah henry, quiz - i appreciate you both very much thank you. >> thank you at home for watching symone on this sunday i am symone sanders-townsend and -- you can catch me right here on msnbc weekends at 4 pm eastern anytime on peacock where new -- msnbc hub every monday for more the show, including behind the scenes videos you will not see anywhere else find us on instagram, twitte and tiktok politicsnation with the amazin reverend al sharpton's next. he will be talking to educatio secretary miguel cardona starts right after this break,

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