platformed and normalized on major news organizations lik cbsn bbc, without any seriou or meaningful pushback t expose them for how harmfu they are to free speech an democracy. and i say this again to end it everyone in the media, who may be watching, and to your point mehdi, they get is never mor important than the content o the interview. if you are not prepared, do no do the interview just to boast that you've got an exclusive >> here here well said. well said. i totally agree. >> mehdi, great show as always my friend, it is great to se you. enjoy the rest of your evening >> coming up on ayman, som breaking developments on the dominion trial -- push back one day. what, if anything, might tha indicate and what will happe when dominion finally gets its day in court plus, republicans hold a sha hearing against alvin bragg. i'll speak with democratic congresswoman stacey plasket about the gop's chief tricks and, like lozano does america, john locke was almost joins me

to discuss his great brand new msnbc series celebrating latin excellence in america. i am ayman mohyeldin, let's ge started. all right, we start this hou with some major breaking news, just moments ago nbc new learned that the start of th trial in dominion voting systems civil lawsuit agains fox has now been pushed back one day. it will now start tuesday at 9 am eastern instead of tomorrow morning. now, the cause of the delay is unclear at the moment. that means that unless in 48 hours, dominion will finally square off in court agains fox. more than two years afte failing a 1.6 billion-dollar defamation lawsuit alleging th network knowingly aire disinformation about fraud i the 2020 presidential election dominion not only has to prove that fox made false statements which it already has done, but also has demonstrated actual

malice and that those fals statements caused harm successfully suing for defamation in the united state is intentionally difficult the legal experts believe that dominion has an exceptionall strong case. drink retail, arguments -- eric davis found that it i quote, crystal clear the fox & friends about dominion are false, making it an issue that won't be disputed at trial the judge also took away fox's ability to use neutral reporting privilege and opinio privilege to common defens tactics for news organizations that are facing such lawsuits. that means the jury is left to decide whether fox knew or should have known that claim were false, when the network aired them and, if so, how much to ow dominion a damages dominion said it is in a statement, we welcome al scrutiny of our evidence because it all leads to th same place fox knowingly spread lie

causing enormous damage to a american company can be. now, along fox has denie dominion's allegation that publicly argued that the cases but the rights of a free press on the line, and in a ne statement the networks tha dominion's lawsuit is political crusade in search of a financial windfall, but th real cost would be cherished first amendment rights just last week, judge davi said that he was imposing sanction on the network an would very likely start an investigation into whether fox's legal team had deliberately withheld evidence scolding the lawyers for not being straightforward with him now, that review came after fo lawyers disclosed in court tha rupert murdoch is an executive officer of fox, after he repeatedly claimed that he did not have an official title a the network. nbc news has confirmed that fo just formally apologized t judge davis, takin responsibility for the quote misunderstanding also last week, abby grossberg the former fox producer who is

accusing the network o pressuring her to give false testimony, filed an amende legal complaint accusing her e employer of also failing t turn over audio recordings o conversations with leading 202 election deniers that coul hurt fox's defense fox has previously said that grossberg's lawsuits are riddled with false allegations and says its lawyers never acted improperly the network far aired grossber after she initiated th litigation fox says that she was fired fo divulging private information. my conch my colleague, ale wagner - referenced by abby grossberg take a listen. >> and going to be asking yo for as much evidence as you ca tell us about these lawsuits whatever you can tell us i terms of evidence would be really helpful okay, great. >> i can tell you exactly what we have. >> perfect and what about the software, this dominion software >> that's a little harder --

>> seems troubling >> - to tell you right -- it's being analyzed right now. i mean, there are a couple o races that been reversed because the democrat was tripl counted, two already i michigan now, whether that applies fo the whole state or not i can't tell you yet >> this dominion software, doe nancy pelosi have an interes in it? >> i've read the i can't prove that >> okay. >> now, i want you to remember here for a moment, all of this has come out before the tria has even started and the fireworks migh continue once it actuall begins on tuesday. bloomberg reports that ruper murdoch is expected to b called to the witness stan possibly soon as tuesday according to people familiar with the matter. so, here's where we stand, jus almost 24 hours before the start of the trial as i said, at the beginning, successfully suing for defamation, it is extremel difficult in the united states it is extremely rare for

defamation cases to even reach a jury the fact that fox has alread reached this point is quit remarkable in and of itself. this case is shining a spotlight on how new organizations, if you want t call fox that, cover dubious claims promoted and broadcaste by organizations if you broadcast or prin something that is false or i you are reckless and taking th steps to make sure that it i true and accurate, then you ma be held accountable. that is a new. >> joining me now, my colleagu katie phang, host of the katie phang show on msnbc. she's actually in delaware for the dominion trial for us. jeremy peters, report of the new york times who covers th media and its intersection wit politics, culture and law, and know what schachmann, chief an editor of -- three of you with us katie, i will start with you and the developing news, the breaking news that we have jus learned a short while ago. what have we learned about this, if we have any more insigh into it, and i guess immediately, the first thing that goes to my mind, you ar

the lawyer, so semi-straight here could this be a indication that a settlement might be in the works? >> yeah. so, you can settle even on the courthouse steps, on the trial you can settle right before jury verdict is rendered in th case, frankly, you could settl after the verdict annual - if you are going to appeal everybody has wondered aloud why has in this case settled already. it seems to be the case that dominion is barreling toward the finish line, towar success. and why has fox not pointed up the money? number one, we do know dominio is claiming billions of dollar in damages let's be clear compensatory damages in this case the economic damages in this case, they are claiming as 1.6 billion, plus the 800 -- punitive damage of this that they are asking the jury t award, which could've also troubled that, right so there is a lot of money tha is at play i personally think that if w settle, you are not going to know the amount.

one and two, elsa thing foxe at this kind of -- where if they are going to settle - that would mean that fox i saying that i am completel culpable for what i am accused of doing by dominion you know, fox may want to say, i'm going to pump this to jury and blame a jury if a jur comes back and say that i am liable for defamation and fo billions of dollars. but we do know that jury selection wasn't completed i want to emphasize this we don't have a sworn injury we don't have that - it will begin on tuesday morning, allegedly at 9:00, an then we are supposed to have a 15-minute recess, and then g into opening statements. >> yeah. we want to be absolutely clear we don't know why it i delayed. so we do not want to speculate for that at all. so thank you so much for all o that context and clarification katie. jeremy, you have been covering this case since the beginning. i want you to set the table fo us in terms of where both side stand as we go into this trial we know that fox apologized to the judge for withholding that

information i referenced there in my setup. are they on the back foot, going into this? >> they are. the judge has repeatedly reprimanded fox. and its attorneys. for objecting to certain arguments that they shouldn' have objected to they have been repeatedl sanctioned by the judge and think, if i were fox, i woul want to settle this but i also don't know tha that is where this case is because fox is going to have t offer dominion an apology an much, much money i don't think fox can afford t offer them an apology. imagine. that saying, you were wrong. for everything you said abou

the january 6th attack everything you said about th 2020 election. it just wasn't it, was unthinkable to me that fox would admit that there is some kind of wrongdoing there that they, that is at the hear of this case >> let's talk about rupert murdoch. he has become an interesting figure in this particular case obviously he is a very central figure to the existence of fox there's no doubt about that. but how he has played a pivota role in this, some are calling his possible court appearance date with destiny. how much of an embarrassment i this for him and what do you think is going through his mind right now having overseen this empire an now watching this day in court unfold >> look, i am not a mind reader i'm certainly not a mind reader for a guy like rupert murdoch. what i can say is that fox put forth a completely ridiculou proposition that he had no involvement in fox news, tha

he was just a member of th parent company, that he didn't really care about what was going on with their quote on quote journalism there and it just has proven to be true not true it has proven to be a lie, ove and over again -- he would call into various shows and comment about them he would talk to suzanne scott the fox news ceo, and he was intimately involved with handling this nonsense and not just that, he has been intimately involved, for decades, in pulling the wool over peoples eyes. and for showing a turn complet contempt for its audience. look, like most people in ne york media, they have been approached by murdaugh types for jobs over the years. and the degree to which they show contempt for thei audience and call them robes and called the morons behind closed doors is jaw-dropping and i never thought i would se

the day where that actuall came to light. and it has already in the tria that hasn't even started >> kitty, dominion will need to, as i mentioned there a convince the jury that fox acted with quote, actual malice talk to us a little throug what this means, how difficult it will be to prove. >> so, this is why everybody keeps on saying, you are never seeing a case for defamation really go to trial, and yo certainly don't see one that i allegedly the strong on behalf of dominion. actual malice, it is kind of one of these things that you can reel off the legal definition and aim and, you di a great job in your set up t this block in terms of what th definition is. but having a jury really understand it is going to be the nuance trick for dominion. it is the idea, as you said, that fox put forth fruits of you are's to consume information that they knew was false, which frankly, with judge davis's ruling on thos motions, dominion's going in it already -

check off, or, fox basically said, i'm going to have tota reckless disregard, i'm just going to completely nor whethe or not there is truth going on with what we are putting forth and our viewers, we are goin to put it out there. >> can i ask you particularl about that point >> sure. >> can the dominion lawyers us the fact that the judge ha already said that they clearly were saying false information, or will that not be allowed in court? so, let me be clear. it is not like the dominio lawyers are going to get up in front of the jury and say, wit this judge he has already said that everything that fox did in thi case was false they are not going to do that. but fox and its -- bleakly being able to liberate certain defenses so even though you may hea certain key word throughout th course of the trial that fox will try to convince the jur to think is a defensive, i think at the end of the day, i it is not an available legal defense than it is not like th jury is going to be able t come back and render a verdict that is in consistent with the law. so that is why dominion pretty

much goes in, and if you wer to hold up a verdict form, which a lot of us did as trial lawyers, the dominion will pretty much say, this is not true and, just like what noah jus said, fox -- basically just eat this up as voter, so here jury, here you go. i want to you to find vi liability and i want you to pu all the zeroes here when you come to damages. but i don't want to be flipping tear jury trials, they are a gamble on either side i don't care what anybody says that is why people talk abou settling in the fact that this tria isn't getting started unti tuesday, the judge has to agre to a delay of trial. so there is something going on here that is delaying the star of the trial the hawks, which i think the spokesperson is just saying it logistics. but at this point, nobod knows. >> we will find out tomorrow morning. jeremy peters, really quickly, question for you does this even matter to fox viewers? are they where this is, is fox more concern for their viewers in the reputation or the shareholders and bottom line >> so, a man, i think fox is

maybe bargaining that thei viewers don't have any ide what is going on yes, there have been revelations that we have see over the last few weeks where, you know, tucker carlson has insulted donald trump, calle him a demonic force, called hi a destroyer, and said that his actions preceding january 6t were quote unquote, deadly i think what fox is doing is just saying that i think our viewers aren't going to realiz this they are not, we live in such siloed media world right now that i think it is perfectly possible that that is the righ business decision. and that is what fox, if you look at this case, what fox ha done all along, has made

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circus to town, so to speak. >> of course jim jordan is not concerned with new yorkers lives and the well-being of ne yorkers. as we have seen in the first 100 days of the republican control congress, they reall have no policies that are abou affecting the lives of any american it is really about theatrical, grievances and politics an running interference for their leader donald trump. and that is exactly what thi hearing is about >> to your point, jordan isn't the only republican attackin brag, donald trump just attack and again this morning o social media, we know when the gop attacks brag that there is a spike in the number of threats against him. and this week's crags office was sent a letter threatenin white powder, it is the second time in a month that something's happened the authority said the powdery was nonlethal but presumably trump and his allies know, and

they must be aware, that something like this happens as a result of the rhetoric don't you think they are doing this with intent >> well, i think the intent is to stop the criminal investigation, the crimina trial of president trump and there is a definite line that we and a separate branc of government must exercise, particularly when there is a criminal investigation, a gran jury has found sufficien evidence to bring an indictmen of the president and we should be very careful about engaging and interfering or appearing t engage in interfering. in those kinds o investigations you know, what is really ric about all of this is that we know that shooting incidents have been down in new york there have been an enormou amount of contribution t successes and guns being brought off the streets in new york, and most of those guns are being traced back to

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gender affirming care fo minors in this past week imagery, - introduced new limits on gende affirming care for adults, including a new rule that woul force doctors to provide patients with informatio warning against certai treatments, and if there was ever an indication that the go 's bigoted, anti-trans agend is successfully riling up th base, look no further. then what has happened to bu light. after trans influencer dylan mulvaney posted a video with beer that fought like center for free, the american right lost its - and average right-wing bee drinking joes calling for boycott. republicans have successfull pushed this kind of fanaticism and intolerance into the mainstream, and given it the appearance of acceptability an while bigoted beer drinker will likely move on from their misplaced anger, trans peopl in this country, however, it cannot joining me now is human rights campaign president kelly robinson kelly, it is great to have you with us. so, we are seeing a constant

stream of anti-trans legislation coming out of re states it is something we have been tracking on the show for sometime now, we're even seein a can't attacks on corporation that support and promote trans visibility, just simply put, what is your message - in these difficult times >> my message is that we see you. ivs heard stories from parents of trans youth who are movin because they're freed from their children i have heard - increased rates of suicide, have heard pediatricians being harassed and having deat threats against them this is a crisis and we se when we are also not going t give up. we're going to fight back. >> i wanted to get you thoughts in florida, a civil rights organization - for the lbj each - released a travel advisory jus this week for florida. and that is in response to all of the recent laws that ar

increasingly infringing on peoples rights there do you expect, could we se more advisories like these going out? do you fear that that is the trend, where this country is going? and certainly -- >> i mean, it is hard, right right now we are seeing divided country. where half of the states nearly half of, them putting i place some sort of restriction or ability to live and survive i mean, it is only april and w have already tracked 500 and child should be to queue plu bills across this country in 3 days so the reality is, if you are trans person, if your career person, if you are a parent or an ally, some of these state have laws and policies that ar dangerous. and you said this earlier, i is not just about the policies it is about the environmen that is surrounding them when you have kid rock picking up a shotgun to shoot cans a bad light because dyla mulvaney was their spokesperson, that is promoting a culture of violence against people that has real life impact

>> let me ask you about -- the intersection of sports and this issue title ix prohibits sex discrimination at educationa institutions the biden administration recently announced a rul change that would allow school to block some transgende athletes from playing a sports teams that match their gende identity your reaction or response to this decision by the administration >> we have got to get that rul finalized and then enforce it. right now, there are 20 strait around the country that have some form of sports ban agains the trans community. will biden's rule does mak those bands in violation o federal law. so if we can use that as a too to be get kids to play sports, that is when >> as i mentioned in this se up, missouri is looking to target gender pharmacare t adults believe that is the first in the nation -- for so long, republicans - should be necessary to protect the children

now they are going after adults >> it's just outrageous. this is not about the kids and it has never been. we know that they are losing i the right -- against abortion access, the are losing in their work to ba books in the right t education. and now they are lansing their next war on the backs of trans youth. this is outrageous what we are seeing in missouri shows what the real agenda is. it is to make sure that people don't have access to medically affirming, saving gender affirming health care. this is important. you know, every major medica association in the country fro the american metal calais ocean, to the american academy of pediatrics, has said this is quality medicine, that this is life-changing medicine and the people should have access to the idea that this attorne general is trying to make a lo of nowhere to restrict adult choices to get to the health care that they want is simpl outrageous >> kelly robinson, i greatly

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democrats have been on a winning streak with judicial confirmations, february th senate confirmed biden's 100 federal --

appeasing the number of judges confirmed under president obam and trump, at the same point i their ministration that could all be in jeopard right now due to one senator diane feinstein. the 89 year old -- february when she wa hospitalized with shingles her absence means that the senate judiciary committee i now evenly spillage between th democrats and republicans, w can further considerations impossible -- ro khanna called on to resign, saying she could no longer perform her duties let's bring back into th conversation no act. in noah, your thoughts on this feinstein -- excuse me, senate majority leader chuck schumer to employ a temporary placement on the judiciary committee, but the will need bipartisan support for that, and then you hav republican senator who i already saying the gop shouldn't help democrats replace her. will republicans use this as a opportunity to slow down the

confirmation of biden nominees >> yeah. they probably will but look, ultimately congressman khanna is right. senator feinstein needs to resign it has been over a year sinc the san francisco chronicl reported that, citing four for senate colleagues, that sh couldn't remember their names lot of the time and that she was having major problem fulfilling her duties to senator. she has been a lon distinguished career but it is time to step down. >> i don't think it is a jus to say that. her absence is concerning. i mean, mitch mcconnell is returning to the senate this weekend after he was hospitalized for concussion, john fetterman will return tomorrow after he left to ge treatment first oppression chuck grassley - he's not facing calls to ste down the problem is, and let's be clear, it is not her age it is her absence. and the impact that it i having on joe biden getting hi judicial nominees.

what do you think needs to b done here to help the senato with this decision >> look, what i'm saying is to the people that work for the senator, and the people that work with the senator, and the people that care about the senator, it is time to tel them that it is time for her t go it is just that simple look, we have all got agin grandparents and we have all got aging parents who have t relinquish their responsibilities the senator has had a long storied career stretchin decades, but we are now at the end of it. >> schumer and senate democrats, as i mentioned there, they may need some help, they mean need to negotiate but the republicans about replacing -- some republicans like norm dakota, senator kevin kramer are suggesting kristen sinem as a replacement for feinstein on the judiciary committee your thoughts on tha suggestion, and how that could affect the confirmatio process. i just imagine if this issue

was on the other foot, republicans would be doing >> it's amazing. the sentiment ideas like the one thing that might make me take back on my words. big -- person that can and get on that republicans aren't goin to help it all, obviously. one of biden's biggest successes has been the appointment of judges, and obviously, they don't want tha to continue. but they will be someone the can find and so they can't let their obstruction, the democrats can't let thei obstruction stand in the way o what is the evident thing to d here >> you think someone like gavi newsom - make it if she does in fac resign or would that put him in a har spot >> i think he would. and look, the other thing is that there is about to be long and pretty intense primar coming up. in california. and this is a chance to settle

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only from xfinity. >> here's my conversation with the future starts now. leguizamo about his new msnb series premiere in just moment leguizamo does america hi, john leguizamo it's good to have you on the show i'm really excited about the series tell us about it what sparked the idea for it what was the most enjoyabl part of the experience for you >> yeah, well, i do my comed tour i go to 26 of the bigges cities in america. huge latin populations everywhere i learned about all this latin excellence in all the cities denver, 20 cities in texas amarillo, corpus christi dallas, san antonio. california i want to go around looking fo

latin exceptionalism i found all these artists, painters, actors, chefs, restaurant tours, architects entrepreneurs. i sit down with them an amazing latin meal. with a few drinks. lots of laughs i smuggling content. we have a great show every show is a party. >> i wanted to ask you about that you talked about the diversity within latinos in this country oftentimes, their lump togethe in one large group may be treated as a monolith as you noted near series, as w all know, there are many cultures and countries o origin that include this community. talk to me about that. how do you push back against this false notion that latinos are a monolithic group i america. >> there's something i have to tease out of that no group is a monolith. they've republicans, ver religious fanatics we have it all the left, the right. we have that

we can be united we're very united because of culture, language. very similar foods we love each other's music so, we can be easily courted in my comedy shows, i'm talkin to mexicans, salvadorian hondurans, cubans, puert ricans they're grooving on what i'm talking about. we feel this way we have more similarities an differences. we do have differences just like white people i georgia their southern folk, northern folk, there west. we have different flavors. >> yeah, diversity is so important. i wanted to dig into that little bit something that you're much mor familiar with, representatio in hollywood you've been an unspoken -- >> [inaudible] >> outspoke critic of the lack o representation in hollywood. despite the fact that th latino community makes up 20

of the u.s. population, ther is a report last year by the accountability office that found only 7% of workers in th media are latino only 3% are latina as someone who's worked in thi industry for 30 years, when yo think needs to happen for ther to be a more nuanced media for latinos? what have you seen since the start of your career >> i think executives need t be accountable it's not okay. we over-index in the box office 30% of the u.s. box office billions of dollars in streaming. talking about america. not giving us our do that's crazy netflix and nielsen just found out that latinos will go t content that has latin content actress that's latino, cultura references, they go to tha content. so, they need to fee responsible and give us th content we deserve you saw oconto was more were number one in the world.

emmanuel has the biggest hit i broadway history it has latinos and black founding fathers it works it's satisfying all cultures you have to do the work. give us 20% of the stories 20% of the leaves. 20% of the executives. that's how you do it >> you we flatten stories an history lessons throughout thi series of course, you are also know for your hit broadway show that history for more, it' basically comedy crash cours in history why is it so essential tha this history is actually share and how it also helps dismantl stereotypes? i think sometimes we have to teach latino history to latina and not to the broader america population >> right that's so correct. our history is america history. latin history is america history. with the oldest ethnic group the largest. we've been here. we discovered america. we never left. we just keep coming. i think that is the mid. we just got here

but we've been here forever. that's how we have to look a our history textbooks. we need to include latin contributions. otherwise, you're not tellin history fiction. we are the only ethnic group that has every single war that america's ever had every single what i'm talking about the american revolution. 10,000 unknown latino patriots fought sons and daughters of th american revolution. like giving george washingto valley and dollars, back the it was a lot of money. from cuba, mexico, spain, to fight against the british. so, our contributions ar important. part of the american history they need to be told >> yeah. history is more important no than ever. let's talk about the current climate in america a little bit of the politics in recent years, we had seen a bit of a shift in latino community. moving to the republican party as you said earlier, it's not monolith did you think that's because the gop is more appealing or d

you think it is becaus democrats haven't done enoug to reach out to latinos? where do you see this tren going? >> you hit it. you hit it democrats not do enough. except bernie. brittani knew what he wa doing. what did he do he got flattened consultants who told him what to say step by side what to do republicans knew what to do. they came after us they hit us with trigger words they went to our spanish nations. everywhere, locally. they used whatsapp they used everything democrats assumed we would b there. they were asleep they have to do what aoc does. she goes door to door. she makes calls. stops. she shows up people, if you compress, w will be there for you. we just need to feel like yo care >> yeah. get the do the work. grassroots work. john, let me ask you - this is something you've set even if you are supersmart

super talented, you would neve have the same opportunities as others presumably, your white counterparts what is your message to youn creatives that might be feelin the same way today how did you keep the hope over the span of your career? >> you know, it wasn't easy. i learned early on i was an idealistic man. i believe meritocracy. i believe talent - it wasn't fair you know, and why you, i was i school votes i was with sweeney and mccarthy let him guide the class. getting a's. same situation didn't have the same opportunities. no matter how talented i was they would go to fiv admissions a day i was quite one for every five months for a servant, drug dealers, killer. that's not okay. if you look at the casting breakdown, list of the parts it was jim crow. white actor, white lawyer, white doctor, white student,

white romance. then, like a killer. that was my opportunities. it was my -- it wasn't. okay louise pointed resistance it wasn't holly wouldn't not giving me opportunities. i found theater. they gave me the opportunities a fraud. white that's where i started i found my voice i found my fans. i found my days. >> i have to say - >> [inaudible] >> we'r thankful you spend your base and your voice we're much better country for. it as this series shows, you know, it is a very important time in our country. roll very thankful about the series getting me to tell th story. continue success to an everything that you do, john thank you so much. >> thank you thank you, bro